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sodascouts
02-20-2009, 08:06 PM
An interview to promote his Fallsview shows:

http://www.bestofwny.com/nightlife/

sodascouts
02-21-2009, 03:04 PM
Another interview, this one from the Niagara Falls Review (http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1443557).

Freypower
02-21-2009, 06:13 PM
Well, you cannot accuse him of false modesty.

The patronising swipes at Henley's drumming are particularly grating in the first interview. Also, when he says that he was told by Henley to rearrange Hotel California for HFO.... where was Frey at the time?

He says Leadon 'invited' him to 'jam' with the Eagles. Again, I thought Frey asked him. But as we all know, Frey can never be given credit for anything at all.

As for 'I felt compelled to represent the interests of those who were no longer with the band' - what a statement. He represented himself, as he had every right to do. I think Dreamer has said before that this assumption he makes that Leadon and Meisner were apparently incapable of looking after themselves is offensive. As were/are Tim and Joe, who he apparently also 'stood up' for. Please. We are talking about grown men who did not need Felder to hold their hands.

TimothyBFan
02-22-2009, 12:23 PM
That man just continues to grate on me!!! Just when I think it's over, he does another interview and sticks a couple more jabs at the guys into it.

EagleLady
02-22-2009, 12:25 PM
I swear Felder is such a whiny brat

Lisa
02-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Don Felder has so much talent as a guitarist. He added depth and virtuosity to the Eagles sound when he joined the band. I'm glad the band kept adding musicians to fill out and develop their sound.

Outlaw Man
02-23-2009, 11:43 PM
Outlaw Man, welcome to The Border. I'm glad you enjoyed the show.

Thanks. We were actually wondering if we might run into DF and his fiance, the next day, on the wine tour of the Niagara-on-the-Lake region. They held a wine/chocolate event, as she had lived in the area, which explained why this was one of the few locations chosen for the tour.


The patronising swipes at Henley's drumming are particularly grating in the first interview.

Let's keep things in perspective. Nobody is going to confuse Don Henley's drumming with, say, Neil Peart's. Plus, it's not as if they didn't go out of their way to knock Felder, and he has attempted communications.


I happen to live with a Neil Peart worshipper. I am well aware that Henley as a drummer does not rate with somebody like Peart, but I found Felder's comments extremely patronising, as I said.

Something tells me that Don Henley didn't take umbrage with the comment much, as he's got no qualms about lettting others fill in for him on the drum stool, even on his solo concerts.


You say the other band members 'knocked' Felder. Not in public, they haven't. The only comments have been made by Henley in the Rolling Stone cover story.

A rather high profile way of going about it.


Apart from that it has all been one way traffic, and you wonder why they have not returned his 'attempt at communiciations'. I would not want to communicate with a former colleague who did nothing but heap scorn on me, I'm afraid.

Going to read the book on Wednesday, so that'll give me a better perspective of commenting...and will possibly join the discussion in the Heaven and Hell thread and give insight as to my perspective.


Still, it is good to hear from someone who has seen Felder live, so welcome again.

That's what it's all about, enjoying the music.



Thanks for posting the review! I've been very curious if his solo shows had the same setlist as on the site, and what he's like live. Can you tell us more about the song he did in place of Eagles Blues?

And welcome! Love your name - great song.


Yes, it is a great song...very underrated.

The song was a ballad (sorry, already forgot the name). He'd written it before joining the Eagles, but apparently completed it over time since. Everything he did received a strong response from the crowd. It included a few requests (ie "A Good Day in Hell"). He was cordial but seemed to still be getting used to being the leader of a band.


To give an introduction, so you know where I'm coming from:

Eagles fan since 1976. Had everything on vinyl, saw them first in '79 on the Long Run tour. Disappointed in the breakup, but was not really surprised. Continued to pay some close attention to the solo careers. HFO reenergize the interest. Currently my CD collection includes Desperado, OoTN, HC (DVD-A) and TLR.

Some observations -

Randy Meisner had some success after leaving, but it was one album and that was all.

Really have no idea what Bernie Leadon did after OoTN.

Glenn Frey could almost be summed up with "Miami Vice." "You Belong to the City" and "Smuggler's Blues" were his solo career highlights. "The Heat is On" was OK, but his outside stuff didn't rank with his Eagles work.

Timothy B Schmit put out a few solo records, but nothing memorable. He was best known as Randy's replacement in Poco, and had done quite a bit of background vocals for Steely Dan, prior to replacing Randy in the Eagles.

Joe Walsh. His greatest musical achievements were before the Eagles. His reputation as a great guitarist was solidifed with the James Gang and his solo career. XM ran a '73 concert from Univ. at Texas - Arlington. He never was given the opportunity to play like that with the Eagles. Yeah, the allow him to do a lot of his outside work, but there really wasn't any stretching out.

Don Henley. "Dirty Laundry" was a good kickoff, don't think that anything else off it made much of a dent. Building the Perfect Beast (got it on MoFi gold) was really good. "The Boys of Summer" stands the test of time, and there's plenty of other decent material. The End of the Innocence (got it in 5.1) was the high water mark. It is a classic record, but let me state that the title track (best of his post-Eagles breakup) was his greatest piece. That song was Bruce Hornsby through and through, except for the lyrics and vocals.

Fast foward to early 90's....

A local concert took place at a theater...very small with a few hundred seats in Buffalo. This was around '93, but not positive. It was close to Eagles but not totally. Neither Don was included, but it was Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Ticket prices were very reasonable. It was regrettable for not making the effort to go, both because of the lineup and that the venue is now history.

The next year, HFO passed through town in the NHL hockey arena. The promoter of the previous year's gig couldn't belive the ticket prices. He said that he had 3/5 of the Eagles there for about a 1/3 of the price, and it didn't fit. Not his exact words, but the gist of his response stuck with me for all these years. $100+ ticket prices were unheard of at that time, and became the norm since. The Eagles and their management were largely responsible. So, when Don Henley is quoted as saying "think about the money"....'patronizing' comments about his drumming (don't think he even played drums on his solo releases) don't exactly ring true. If they hadn't played their cards right, they could be like Styx or REO Speedwagon, at this juncture. Yeah, they're great businessmen, but are they expanding musical boundaries?...don't think so.

Now, the solo careers of all of them were done by the early 90's.

Henley was obviously the most successful, but TIoTI was it for him.

Frey had nothing going on after '86 or thereabouts.

Walsh knew what he was doing, since he'd covered that ground before, but hadn't put out a decent album since There Goes the Neighborhood. He expended more effort trying to be funny than reminding the world what a great guitarist was capable of being.

...Which brings us to Don Felder.

Frankly, I had no strong opinions on the subject until seeing the Eagles, sometime around '02-'03. Somebody, maybe at Eagles Fans, had it exactly right. It was after the song, "Hole in the World," had be debuted. The reaction was "there's a hole in this band." That was exactly the point! No matter how much people try to prop up Steuart Smith, it's not the same. He's a great Nashville guitarist. That's it. His style does not mesh with the sound that they were trying to establish. This is just my reaction, and it's understood that others may feel differently, and this is respected. A copy of LROoE was given to me. It was enjoyable, but it doesn't rank up there with the 'golden era' for me.

So, this led me to reevaluate his status. Maybe too much has been made about HC, even if this was their signature tune. His contributions were so much more than "Visions" and so on. The writing credits were starting to increase from OoTN through TLR. If you compare it Timothy B and Joe, there isn't much. Yes, Tim struck gold with "I Can't Tell You Why" and Joe just rearranged a song he'd written from the "The Warriors" soundtrack, but maybe the latter was saving other ideas for his solo career.

My inclination is to think that maybe Henley and Frey did not fully take advantage of the musical weapon that they had at their disposal, which was DF. It's hard for me to dispute the account of DF saying that DH gave him the green light to improvise the acoustic intro for HC on HFO. That was one way to make up for lost time. DH is probably the main culprit for expecting the band to sound just like the records in the live settings. So, this doesn't sound any warning bells for me, esp. since DF had been in a jazz fusion band. DF wanted to improvise a bit. Covering this missing piece with a Nashville guitarist, a horn section, strings, etc. does not fill the void.

As for the legal hassles...it'd been my understanding that there was an existing agreement, which was that the revenues would be split equitably. If Henley and Frey had approached Felder and explained their position and tried to negotiate, maybe things would have been different. It seems to me that they just acted as if the previous contract no longer existed, and to treat a former 'equal' partner as a sideman by squeezing higher percentages for themselves with the aid of the group's manager. The fact that they attempted to prevent US distribution of the book shows to me that there were issues that they didn't wanted known to "protect the image."

Having said all that, my plan is to read the book on Wednesday and absorb his thoughts. Enought reviews have been posted. My expectation is to approach it as an entertaining read with, hopefully, some interesting insights. After that, I'll try to enter the Heaven and Hell discussion with a fresh perspective.

sodascouts
02-23-2009, 11:51 PM
I read your post with interest. I think you're right that Smith, as good he is, just isn't Felder. The Eagles scored a terrific guitarist when they snared him, and it's a pity that it in the end they couldn't work it out.

I have to admit that after I read Heaven and Hell, I had some uncharitable thoughts about Felder and many remain to this day. However, I cannot dispute his musicianship, nor would I want to. He deserves props as a fine guitarist and a contributor to the several Eagles songs, including of course their biggest hit. I respect that.

MikeA
02-24-2009, 07:52 AM
OM

Welcome! I enjoyed reading through your insights on the Felder/Eagles issue. I very much look forward to hearing more from you.

Outlaw Man
02-24-2009, 10:45 AM
Thanks, guys. Nice to be here, and hopefully I can add something to the discussions.

After reading the book, it'll allow me to contribute intelligently in the Heaven and Hell thread. People need to remember a few things when evaluating its contents.

DF didn't necessarily approach it with the intention of writing a "tell all" book. He was writing down his feelings, reactions, etc. His fiancee read the thoughts and suggested that it'd make a great book. The other aspect is that we all have to realize that it's in the best interests of the publisher to encourage conflict/controversy to generate sales. They want to hear about the sex, drugs and disputes within the group. So, some of this was going to be magnified for effect. As has been mentioned, it is his version of events.

So, plz give me a couple of days to read the book and digest it, then I'll drop back to share some comments.

Ive always been a dreamer
02-24-2009, 01:07 PM
First of all, welcome from me as well, OM. Glad to have you here on The Border, and hope you will stick around and enjoy yourself here.

Thank you so much for your review of Felder's show. I was particularly interested in what Don's set list would be. I am so glad that you enjoyed the show and agree with you that Felder is an extremely talented musician. I was wondering about his stage presence. Unfortunately, I never got to see him perform live with the Eagles, but from all the video I've seen, I always thought he brought a lot of energy to his live performances.

Having said that, I do wonder how successful Don can be playing old Eagles songs. With all due respect to him, even though he co-wrote a lot of the songs in the set list, IMHO, I really think most people would rather see them performed by the guys who originally sung them. I believe that if he is going to sustain a successful solo career, he is going to have to release some new material that meets with at least a moderate amount of success.

I'm looking forward to your thoughts after you read the book. I'll wait for you to post in the 'Heaven and Hell' book thread before commenting so I don't hijack this thread, but I did want to respond to this one thing that you said here:


If Henley and Frey had approached Felder and explained their position and tried to negotiate, maybe things would have been different. It seems to me that they just acted as if the previous contract no longer existed, and to treat a former 'equal' partner as a sideman by squeezing higher percentages for themselves with the aid of the group's manager.

Much of this has already been discussed in detail in the book thread. However, if you start reading the book by making this assumption, then you will have no problem agreeing with Felder's accounts. My point is that we don't have any knowledge about the details of any negotiations to support what you said. In fact you will find that Felder himself is very vague in his accounts.

sodascouts
04-10-2009, 10:03 PM
Check out this brief interview to promote the Spotlight Casino Concert on The Desert Sun (http://www.mydesert.com/article/20090409/LIFESTYLES0101/904080392).

sodascouts
05-04-2009, 10:29 AM
New radio interview:

http://dd.wcsx.com/?p=2579

Sounds like relations have improved with Joe Walsh. Also, I was surprised that he said he wouldn't tour again with the Eagles unless some changes are made, presumably in the power structure and money distribution. Of course, the likelihood of that is negligible, to put it mildly!

I thought the DJs going on and on about how hot Leah Felder is in a bikini afterwards was kind of tacky.

Freypower
05-04-2009, 08:04 PM
He is not going to be asked to tour with the Eagles again. He still appears to be indulging in wishful thinking. The comment is redundant.

luvthelighthouse
05-04-2009, 09:00 PM
Asked why he stayed in what he called a “toxic relationship” for nearly 30 years, Felder went back to the music.

“For those two-and-a-half hours that (the Eagles) were on stage, it was pure joy,” Felder said.


For some reason this comment just struck me funny... it's like saying, "we had a bad relationship, but stayed together because the sex was good". Don't know why that analogy came to mind, but it did.

sodascouts
05-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Felder coming on the radio in a couple minutes:

http://www.wifc.com/

sodascouts
05-06-2009, 11:02 AM
For anyone interested, they'll be playing it again tomorrow at 6:45 am Central Time.

He told one new joke (twice): "It's the most salacious life story I've ever lived." Compared the moment when he hit his answering machine button and heard Azoff say "The band has decided to go on without you" to a knife slashed across the throat. Otherwise nothing new.

sodascouts
05-21-2009, 12:52 PM
Another interview:

http://www.majic1027.com/jocks/morningshow.aspx

Scroll down and click on the "Audio" tab.

He says unsarcastically that he has "dear feelings" for all of the Eagles, including Henley and Frey!

Koala
05-23-2009, 12:43 PM
I am not sure whether this article in this Thread is right.

Felder proud of his career in Eagles

Ted Shaw, The Windsor Star
Published: Saturday, May 23, 2009

You can't dance to it, it's too long, and the vocals don't start until a minute in.
Nothing about Hotel California fit the mould of hit radio in 1977.
But it went on to become an anthem for baby boomers. It was the last gasp for California-style country-rock, not to mention the band that recorded it, The Eagles.
Along with American Pie and a couple of others, Hotel California is a sort of Lord's Prayer of rock. You can mouth the words by rote even if their meaning doesn't register anymore.
It's a song forever locked in the era of eight-tracks. But it can still get the juices flowing.
At the time Hotel California was recorded, Don Felder was The Eagles' primary lead guitarist. During those album sessions, he'd share duties with Joe Walsh. But the music of the actual song Hotel California, along with its structure and the solo near the end, were his doing.
The 61-year-old Felder -- who once learned slide guitar from Duane Allmann and who gave Tom Petty guitar lessons when he was a teenager in Florida -- these days is touring a rock revue devoted to Hotel California and the enduring legacy of The Eagles.
He brings the revue to the Colosseum at Caesars Windsor tonight.
"If you think you've made a record that you believe will end up being known as your legacy," said Felder, "nine times out of 10, you'll be wrong."
The Eagles knew they had a great song. They had no idea it would be the ultimate Eagles song.
"Honestly, you never know from track to track or record to record what's going to strike a chord with people on a huge level. Underlying all of your hopes and dreams there is always that wish, that desire that you have made something that will last."
Asylum Record executives didn't know what to make of Hotel California, Felder said. Even Felder had his reservations when bandmate and lead singer Don Henley declared Hotel California would be the lead single from the album.
"I thought no way. AM radio at the time only wanted songs that were three minutes, maybe three minutes and 30 seconds long.
"FM radio wanted uptempo songs, maybe some R&B feel, or a big, wet, sloppy ballad. This song was none of that.
"It was over six minutes long and it had an instrumental introduction that was a minute long. Then it stops in the middle and there's this legato section of a vocal part. Then at the end there's a two-minute guitar solo. Everything about it was wrong for radio."
The band's previous release from the Hotel California album, New Kid In Town, was more in the style of hit radio.
But for a magical few weeks near the end of 1977, programmers and radio listeners suspended their belief long enough to turn Hotel California into the biggest hit in The Eagles' career.
Felder originally wrote the music in a key that was too high for Henley -- "When he sang it the first time in the studio, he sounded like The Bee Gees," Felder recalled.
So he went back home and worked out a darker-sounding version in B-minor, a key most guitarists prefer to avoid. Henley and fellow Eagles founder Glenn Frey composed the lyrics.
"Don (Henley) had this knack of being able to sit down and come up with lyrics in a matter of minutes," said Felder.
The song's Hitchcock-like imagery and allusions have been the subject of debate ever since. But Felder, even if he has his own ideas about its meaning, doesn't engage in such debate.
To him, the music was all that counted. And it is music which has shaped his thinking from the day he was 10 years old and saw Elvis Presley on television at his parents' Gainesville, Fla., home.
"The hair stood up on the back of my neck," he said.
"I immediately went out and traded a handful of firecrackers to a kid across the street for an old, beat-up guitar in his attic."
Three years later, after he'd taught himself to play, Felder and a friend saw B.B. King perform in a bar in rural Florida.
Felder played in high school bands which included fellow Florida natives Stephen Stills and Bernie Leadon, who later helped form The Eagles in 1972.
He also got to know contemporary and Gainesville High alumnus Tom Petty, even teaching him some licks on guitar.
Felder went north out of high school and found session work and club gigs in Boston and New York. It was when he hooked up with old friend Leadon, who was on his first tour with The Eagles, that Felder met the musicians who two years later asked him to join the band.
"The first song I did was Good Day in Hell on the On The Border album," said Felder. "It was the first of many good days in hell with The Eagles."
Felder wrote about his tempestuous days in the band, and the series of lawsuits that followed his being fired in 2001, in the bestselling 2008 memoir, Heaven and Hell: My Life in the Eagles (1974-2001).
The bad divorce from the band didn't sour Felder's enthusiasm for music or, more particularly, the songs of The Eagles. In his revue, he performs about a dozen Eagles tunes, most of which he didn't write but was featured on as the lead guitarist.
"Just because The Eagles decided to end their association with me," said Felder, "doesn't mean it was going to end my desire to play music. To tell you the truth, I think I get more out of (the music) than most of the people who attend my concerts."

Freypower
05-24-2009, 07:26 PM
So he has no interest in the lyrics of Hotel California, only the music because he 'wrote' it (I am sorry but I don't believe that Glenn at least did not have some hand in the music).

And I must say AGAIN that Hotel California was NOT the lead single from the album. It was the SECOND single. The lead single, which went to Number One first, was New Kid In Town. I do not care how dismissive Felder is of NKIT (although he played the solo on it). Facts are facts. :-x

As for always wanting to play music, what was he doing in the 'vacation' period? He put out one contractual obligation album and was silent the rest of the time.

sodascouts
08-16-2009, 02:50 PM
To promote his upcoming benefit show in Idaho, from the Idaho Mountain Express:

Don Felder Brings 'Hotel California' Concert to Pavilion (http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005127401)

sodascouts
09-07-2009, 11:12 AM
Felder is quoted in the article "Motown Turns 50" (http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2009/09/motown_turns_50_but_the_partys.html):


"I don't know if anybody ever sat down and looked at the percentages of acts that Berry actually signed, recorded and released and the percentages of hits versus failures. But his track record has just been astronomical. ... He has just, in my opinion, the ears of a genius."

sodascouts
09-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Felder is appearing on Vision TV tonight at 10pm Eastern. More info here: http://www.visiontv.ca/

If you miss it, you can check it out on the archives after it's aired: http://unscripted.ca/episodes

sodascouts
04-21-2010, 06:22 PM
Listen to a radio interview Felder gives to Michael Stanley about his upcoming "Autism Speaks" charity gig here:

http://cbswncx.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/felder.mp3

sodascouts
06-02-2010, 01:19 AM
I missed this when it came out and the benefit is over, but I'm going to post the interview anyway - Felder talking about the charity Autism Speaks:

"Don Felder Performs at Benefit for Autism Speaks" - Cleveland Plain Dealer (http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2010/05/eagles_don_felder_to_perform_a.html)
by Chuck Yarborough

pueblo47
06-02-2010, 08:36 AM
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2010-6-5&e=596&c=1

Wish I was in CA this coming Saturday evening.

sodascouts
09-21-2010, 11:07 AM
Found this interview as well:

"Eagles Guitarist Plays Sun Valley Cancer Benefit" - MagicValley.com (http://magicvalley.com/entertainment/article_7072f28a-f7cd-5279-8d35-c573246a80fa.html)

Koala
11-19-2010, 03:22 AM
Former Eagle flying high with solo career


http://www.mydesert.com/article/20101118/LIFESTYLES0101/11170358/Former+Eagle+flying+high+with+solo+career

Ive always been a dreamer
11-22-2010, 12:55 AM
Thanks for posting that link Koala. Now, here's the kind of quote that we all like to hear ...



And I'm working on a new CD that I hope to have out by next fall.

WalshFan88
11-26-2010, 11:58 PM
I'll be looking forward to hearing that CD.

Koala
12-10-2010, 02:38 AM
Former Eagles guitarist heading to Van for "A Night at the Hotel California"

http://www.straight.com/article-363944/vancouver/former-eagles-guitarist-heading-van-night-hotel-california

WalshFan88
02-21-2011, 01:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-bUTJcA3Yk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-b6bekjYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86z-BUBp4A

sodascouts
02-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Thanks Austin - good find!

pueblo47
07-28-2011, 04:36 PM
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20110728/APC0904/110728130/Greenville-prepares-annual-Catfish-Extravaganza-Lions-Park

Wasn't sure where to put this. Not an interview but merely a mention in an article about an appearance next week.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-01-2012, 10:26 AM
Here's an interesting article about Felder to promote one of his upcoming shows that I got in a Google Alert. I found it interesting that the article mentions he has a young son. I wasn't aware of that. It doesn't provide details, but I'm assuming the child is with his fiance. Here's the link ...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Eagle+Felder+happy+solo/6230647/story.html

And here is what he said about his new album ...


Felder will also be previewing some new material, from a CD due in May. Although he’s written a number of songs for his own career — most notably songs featured in the film’s Heavy Metal and Fast Times at Ridgemont High — it’s his first collection of solo work since 1983’s Airborne. He wrote and sings on all 12 tracks, which also features a number of guests including will.i.am and Whitesnake member Doug Aldrich.

“People hear it and they say, ‘This sounds a lot like the Eagles.’ And I can’t help that. I didn’t set out to try to sound like the Eagles, it’s just what I do. It’s set apart from the Eagles in that it’s a lot tougher sounding, it’s a lot more rock ’n’ roll,” he says, noting someone referred to some of the songs as “Hotel California on steroids.”

sodascouts
03-01-2012, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the info, Dreamer! I reposted some of it in the "New Album" thread. I didn't know he had a small child either. Haven't he and his fiancee been engaged for over five years now? If that's the same woman who's the mother of his child, you have to wonder what they're waiting for - the kid to graduate from college?

Troubadour
04-26-2012, 09:05 AM
Wasn't quite sure which thread to put this in, but a musician friend of mine on FB messaged me the other day and told me that he had just seen Don Felder and David Paich (of Toto) play a live acoustic set in LA... He described it as "stunning"!

TimothyBFan
05-02-2012, 07:38 AM
From Don's FB this morning. From Westjet up. It's a link to the whole magazine. He's on cover and he's on page 16.

http://cdn1.upmagazine.com/up-digital-issues/up_may_2012/index.html

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/eagles/DonFelder2012.png

lwpmedia
12-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Hi - I had the pleasure of interviewing Don the other day for my program, "Rockin' Rich Lynch On The Radio" -- please check it out and spread the word!


Here's the links:

On SoundPress.net:
http://www.soundpress.net/files-features/radio-show.php

On YouTube:
http://youtu.be/NwhpkEb8B0M

On iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/rockin-rich-lynch-on-radio/id373388822



All the best.


Rockin' Rich Lynch
SoundPress.net

VAisForEagleLovers
12-06-2012, 04:25 PM
Thank you!!

sodascouts
12-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Terrific - thanks for letting us know!

VAisForEagleLovers
02-12-2013, 02:59 PM
FB message from Don: I'll be on ROCKLINE Radio tonight from 8:30-10:00 pm PT. Call in and ask me questions or listen on www.rocklineradio.com. The number is 1-800-344-ROCK.

Brooke
02-12-2013, 03:03 PM
Cool! Thanks VA!

VAisForEagleLovers
02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
Unfortunately, 8:30 PT is 'way past bedtime' ET!

VAisForEagleLovers
02-12-2013, 03:45 PM
I correct it, it's tomorrow night, not tonight.

Topkat
02-13-2013, 12:10 AM
I'm interested to hear what he has to say. I bet they will ask him about the Eagles DVD. I know he is also doing one of those rock cruises in Nov. I think his daughter Leigh & her husband & I think Three Dog Night & some other bands are also on the cruise. Sounded kind of cool.

zeldabjr
02-14-2013, 01:09 AM
very cool...I listened to this and actually called in and got to talk to Don...asked him to tell us about the band he has touring with him since I'm going to Niagara Falls next week to see him..

VAisForEagleLovers
02-14-2013, 09:07 AM
very cool...I listened to this and actually called in and got to talk to Don...asked him to tell us about the band he has touring with him since I'm going to Niagara Falls next week to see him..

So what did he say about the band he has touring with him?

zeldabjr
02-14-2013, 09:14 AM
So what did he say about the band he has touring with him?

I was so nervous I barely remember any of it...the producer said I can log in to their site this afternoon and hear it...

sodascouts
02-14-2013, 10:59 AM
Cool!

Brooke
02-14-2013, 12:03 PM
Great! I would have been so shocked when they answered my call I would have probably been speechless!

Topkat
02-14-2013, 12:51 PM
Here's a new interview with Don from Songfacts

http://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/don_felder/

TimothyBFan
02-14-2013, 02:16 PM
Great interview!

A couple things got my attention. The Victim of Love question and answer:


Songfacts: All right. Let's talk about a few more songs. I really like "Victim of Love," which is another one that you wrote. Do you remember writing that song and how that came about?

Don: Yeah. We were trying to move in a heavier direction, away from country rock. And so I wrote, like I said, 16 or 17 song ideas, kind of in a more rock and roll direction, and "Victim of Love" was one of those songs. I remember we went in the studio and we recorded it live with five guys playing. The only thing that wasn't played in a live session was the lead vocal and harmony on the choruses. Everything else was recorded live.

And when we made the vinyl copy - what's called a "mother" that they stamp out all the vinyl records with - Bill Szymczyk, our engineer, used to engrave in between the label and the last band. He would etch a little saying into the vinyl that's on every Eagles record that he worked on. And on the Hotel California record, he wrote "VOL is 5 piece live." Which means "Victim of Love" is 5 piece live. So it was a really fun record to write, record, and we loved playing it live. It was one of the more edgier, rockier songs that the Eagles recorded.

I haven't looked but isn't VOL one of those songs that JD is also credited on, along with Glenn & Don H?

When talking about going into the studio for Road To Forever with Steve Lukather, Stephen Stills, etc... while answering the question about recording Long Run and how it about killed them, he said:


They're just good guys. There's no drama. There's no yelling, screaming, fighting in the studio.

Hmmm... wonder who he's referring to. :hilarious:

I forgot Tommy Shaw helped with some of the writing. :thumbsup:

VAisForEagleLovers
02-14-2013, 02:26 PM
I haven't looked but isn't VOL one of those songs that JD is also credited on, along with Glenn & Don H?

Yes! Felder, Henley, Frey, Souther, in that order on my media player.

TimothyBFan
02-14-2013, 03:40 PM
I thought so but it just made it sound like he was the writer or I read it that way, anyways.

AftertheThrill
02-14-2013, 04:52 PM
I heard your question Zelda. I was able to listen to the first part of the interview before I fell asleep.

I once talked to Henley on Rockline several years ago.

Freypower
02-14-2013, 05:37 PM
He does that all the time. It is tedious in the extreme. He probably wrote the music.

I just noticed on the previous page he said his album was much tougher & rockier than the Eagles. I disagree. Most of it is midtempo or ballads. I heard the title track yesterday & it started off well but just .... seemed to collapse into itself. I don't mean to be harsh because later, I heard Ashphalt Jungle from Airborne, a song I have always liked. I honestly believe Airborne, for all its faults, is a better album than Road To Forever because it has a certain raw charm.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-14-2013, 05:44 PM
A response from Don via FB:

Thanks to all those that managed to tune into Rockline last night. I always have a great time there with Bob Coburn. Thanks for all the calls as well.

zeldabjr
02-14-2013, 08:05 PM
A response from Don via FB:

Thanks to all those that managed to tune into Rockline last night. I always have a great time there with Bob Coburn. Thanks for all the calls as well.

you're welcome Don, thank you!

zeldabjr
02-14-2013, 10:27 PM
I heard your question Zelda. I was able to listen to the first part of the interview before I fell asleep.

I once talked to Henley on Rockline several years ago.

I was nervous enough and it was Don Felder...my heart was pounding while I was on hold waiting to talk to him...I don't know if I could even dial the phone to talk to Henley..my hands would be shaking too bad...and as for anyone else...I don't think I would even try...

sodascouts
02-14-2013, 11:51 PM
Another interview:

http://guitarinternational.com/2013/01/28/the-eagles-don-felders-life-in-the-fast-lane-yields-to-a-road-to-forever/

Topkat
02-15-2013, 01:50 PM
Wish I had listened in on this..I was so tired & fell asleep early!
Zelda, glad you got to talk to Don.
Can the interview be heard on playback today?? Would love to hear ir

Ive always been a dreamer
02-15-2013, 04:16 PM
Zelda - How awesome that you got to speak to Don. Even if you can't remember anything, at least, you'll never forget that it happened. :thumbsup:

Troubadour
02-15-2013, 06:34 PM
That's so cool, Zelda! :thumbsup:

Troubadour
02-15-2013, 06:47 PM
Thanks, Soda. Interesting read! I love the mentions of Stephen Stills.

Troubadour
02-19-2013, 06:57 PM
I'm not sure that I ever posted the link to this, so here (http://www.insidemusicast.com/musicasts/2012/12/10/don-felder.html) is the recent interview that Don did with Inside MusiCast.

sodascouts
02-20-2013, 06:07 PM
Thanks!

VAisForEagleLovers
02-21-2013, 09:16 PM
A recent interview with UltimateClassicRock.com

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-felder-2013-interview/

Troubadour
02-22-2013, 02:19 PM
That was a really interesting read. Thanks, VA.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-25-2013, 04:38 PM
Don will be on Playboy Radio on SiriusXM this evening, channel 102. 7pm EST / 4pm PST.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-25-2013, 08:05 PM
Well, I tried to listen. It's part of a premium package that I don't have... It might be Sirius instead of XM, but I'm not going to go sit in the car to listen to it.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-05-2013, 12:27 PM
It sounds like Don will be touring most of the year. I assume that means he'll eventually get to where I can go see him. He also talks about the documentary and while he again says it's 'lopsided', he goes into more detail.

http://www.classichitsandoldies.com/v2/2013/03/05/don-felder-talks-2013-tour-plans-critiques-new-eagles-documentary/

sodascouts
03-05-2013, 01:00 PM
I'm glad. I'd like to seem him perform some of his new material. I especially like "Wash Away" and "Over You" and he does both of those in the set.

Topkat
03-07-2013, 04:34 PM
Here's another interview with Don. Thought there were some interesting takes on the band. I haven't finished reading the entire thing, but a good interview;

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-felder-2013-interview/

VAisForEagleLovers
03-07-2013, 04:46 PM
Yes, I thought it interesting when I read it a couple of weeks ago, and I wondered why they interviewed him before the movie premiered on Showtime and then released it a week after it premiered. I still wonder.

Topkat
03-07-2013, 05:04 PM
oops, I see the article has already posted. I thought it looked familar.
Oh well to those who haven't read it..
It appeared on my Facebook page today, but the interview was last month! sorry

Just Another Hired Hand
03-12-2013, 11:58 AM
Don Felder was interviewed by local Radio personality, John DiBella of WMGK 102.9 FM, Philadelphia. If you would like to hear the interview use the following link:

http://www.wmgk.com/shows/john-debella/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10516026

I found it to be very entertaining...check it out.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-12-2013, 12:08 PM
It was a nice interview, thanks for posting JAHH!!

Topkat
03-12-2013, 04:32 PM
Don Felder interview with Guitar World magazine

http://www.guitarworld.com/dear-guitar-hero-don-felder-answers-readers-questions-about-gear-eagles-and-more

Ive always been a dreamer
03-12-2013, 10:10 PM
Thanks for posting those links, TK. Here is a very interesting quote from the Guitar World interview ...



I know about the lawsuit that led to you no longer being in the Eagles, but do you ever see or speak to other members of the band? — Jeff Isom

I have great relationships with Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner. I saw Randy about two months ago, and I just called Bernie on his birthday. Randy was a dear friend of mine during the Eagles and has remained so. Everybody else — Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Timothy B. Schmit and Joe Walsh … as much as I love Joe and think the world of him as a player and a person, we have little to no direct contact. Every time I communicate with them or try to reach out, the only return communication I get is from their attorney. It’s sad, but that’s the reality. — Don Felder


I thought some folks here had said that he and Joe had mended fences, but that certainly doesn't seem to be the case from Felder's remarks here.

sodascouts
03-12-2013, 10:34 PM
At one point, he'd said he and Joe were back in contact again, but that was in May 2009 (http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=67454&postcount=13) - almost four years ago (time flies). I don't know if he exaggerated back then, or if they connected briefly and it ended... but he did claim that at one time.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-12-2013, 10:40 PM
Also, I realize that Felder put this on his Facebook page and it says it was released yesterday, but I swear I read this before. He said he just called Bernie for his birthday, and Bernie's birthday is in July.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-12-2013, 10:47 PM
For the record, here's what he said during an interview last September on WDVE in Pittsburgh. Post #84 in his press and discussion on Road to Forever thread...


My head hurts.

He said he's still close to Randy and Bernie, and that he went golfing with Randy 'a few months ago'. He also said he's still 'very close' to Joe. He said he's reached out to Glenn and Don numerous times but nothing has come of it, he communicates with them through lawyers.

He talked about the history of the band and how he came to make this album. I assume the station will put up a podcast. When they do, I'll post it.

WalshFan88
03-13-2013, 09:35 AM
Yeah not sure what was going on there. I had heard he was in contact with Joe, then I read that in Guitar World and other interviews recently that say otherwise. Which is it, Don?! LOL.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-13-2013, 09:58 AM
Yeah - hate to say it, but this is just another one of his inconsistencies. I can't remember, but has Joe ever mentioned anything about reconciling with Don? I don't think he has, but I could be wrong.

Freypower
03-13-2013, 04:45 PM
I just wish someone would tell him that it doesn't matter how often he talks about 'reaching out' to his former bandmates. Every time he is interviewed he says it again, not ever saying what he means by 'reaching out'. As long as he takes every opportunity he can to tip buckets all over them, Glenn in particular, why does he then act so hurt & surprised when they don't respond? He has done it again with his interviews responding to the box set. We all know that he wants nothing to do with Glenn so why does he keep up this charade? I suppose once again it is to make himself look like the aggrieved party & them as the heartless bastards. It works on the converted, I suppose, but it doesn't work on me. :nausea:

WalshFan88
03-14-2013, 12:41 AM
Yeah - hate to say it, but this is just another one of his inconsistencies. I can't remember, but has Joe ever mentioned anything about reconciling with Don? I don't think he has, but I could be wrong.

The only thing I've heard from Joe about him and Felder is around the time of the lawsuit he said something to the effect that he still thought a lot of Don and loved playing with him but legalities kept him from saying much else or having anything to do with him at the time. Not heard anything from Joe since.

Topkat
03-14-2013, 04:31 PM
The only thing I've heard from Joe about him and Felder is around the time of the lawsuit he said something to the effect that he still thought a lot of Don and loved playing with him but legalities kept him from saying much else or having anything to do with him at the time. Not heard anything from Joe since.

Joe does a lot of things but he doesn't always discuss it in the press. I guess he feels for the sake of the peace he doesn't discuss Don Felder. I wouldn't be shocked if they were in contact.

FP, You never pass an opportunity to trash Don Felder.

Freypower
03-14-2013, 05:38 PM
Joe does a lot of things but he doesn't always discuss it in the press. I guess he feels for the sake of the peace he doesn't discuss Don Felder. I wouldn't be shocked if they were in contact.

FP, You never pass an opportunity to trash Don Felder.

I thought what I said was entirely legitimate. In any case I did not trash him. I queried his motives in constantly claiming that he is 'reaching out' when everything he says in interviews, his book & on his album suggests the opposite. You can't 'reach out' to people whom you have made it very clear you dislike intensely, if not hate. The air of hurt surprise when he says that they don't respond is what I can't believe. He should know they won't respond. Why would they?

TimothyBFan
03-15-2013, 08:26 AM
Every time I communicate with them or try to reach out, the only return communication I get is from their attorney. It’s sad, but that’s the reality. — Don Felder

I know this might be the way it has to be but it still saddens me that it's like that.:sad:

Topkat
03-15-2013, 01:19 PM
I just wish someone would tell him that it doesn't matter how often he talks about 'reaching out' to his former bandmates. Every time he is interviewed he says it again, not ever saying what he means by 'reaching out'. As long as he takes every opportunity he can to tip buckets all over them, Glenn in particular, why does he then act so hurt & surprised when they don't respond? He has done it again with his interviews responding to the box set. We all know that he wants nothing to do with Glenn so why does he keep up this charade? I suppose once again it is to make himself look like the aggrieved party & them as the heartless bastards. It works on the converted, I suppose, but it doesn't work on me. :nausea:

When he says, "reaching out" he means with a phone call or possibly an email is the way it seemed to me. I don't see him saying one word about Glenn, so I don't get where that is coming from.:doh: If he would reach out & call anyone, it would probably be Joe. I doubt he would contact Glenn. I have seen & heard most of his interviews & as far as what I've seen he does not mention Glenn. Things are not likely to change.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-15-2013, 03:35 PM
Well, then, TK, take a load of this article. Other than Randy, Glenn is about the only one he mentions and in a negative way (of course). This is exactly the kind of thing I've been talking about. After saying he didn't want to spend time talking about the acrimonious break-up, he then takes a dig at Glenn in every way open to him given the questions asked. And he seriously wonders why no one answers when he calls? You know, even if it's just Joe he's reaching out to, Joe works with Glenn and is friendly with Glenn. He probably can't stomach this any more than I can.

I can't even agree with him that Whitney's version of I'll Always Love You is better than Dolly's, but then I realize that's my country roots showing (and he obviously needs to hear Dolly's duet of the song with Vince Gill).

http://suite101.com/a/don-felder-speaks

Freypower
03-15-2013, 04:28 PM
The comments about TGFY are just nasty. When the song was played in Australia back in 1995 ikt was well received. Yes, it was dropped but not after 'a couple of months'. Get Over It was dropped much more quickly. I never even SAW GOI, which was dropped BEFORE they got to Australia. Nothing like getting your facts straight; as usual. It was also very well received a couple of weeks ago.

As for I Will Always Love You Houston's version of it makes my ears bleed. He's entitled to his opinion.

TK, when you say 'I don't see him saying one word about Glenn' I meant the endless interviews, the book, some lyrics on the album, culminating in the interview VA just posted which I assume is recent. It all builds up. He disparages Glenn whenever he gets a chance, and if you haven't noticed that, all I can say is I am surprised.

And one more thing. The Guitar World interview repeats yet again the myth of Hotel California being the first single from that album. Revisionism is all very well. Those of us who actually know the facts don't have to go along with it.

Topkat
03-15-2013, 07:33 PM
Suite 101: I've heard that, these days, the supposedly improvised 'banter' with the audience is actually scripted. Is that true?

"I wouldn’t know… I would know that when I was in the band that Glenn really was the main front spokesman. He carried the dialogue and he had the history of being very repetitive from show to show. Every once in a while, he’d throw some new element in about a song and get a laugh or something, but it was pretty much like a show.

"A lot of the show was choreographed. I came out when Don came out from behind the drums, Joe and I would go over and play together on a certain area of the stage and it was almost like a play - and it was identical from night to night, musically and script-wise. I don’t know wehat they’re doing now – I haven’t seen their show, to tell you the truth…

Suite 101: I think Glenn Frey makes the same joke every time he introduces Take It To The Limit, that it's his "wife’s credit card song!"

"Well, after being in the band and hearing Randy Meisner sing Take It To The Limit... and there’s only two people that I’ve seen live sing that get huge standing ovations. One year it was Roy Orbison that opened for us... I think it was on part of the Hotel California tour and he would sing the song Crying, where again he gets really high.

"It was our cue – when we heard the audience explode with appreciation and reaction to him singing those really high notes that, ‘Okay, we’ve got five minutes’. Every night, like clockwork, he was able to do that. Randy Meisner did that every night on Take It To The Limit. You could count the same number of goosebumps on your neck every night when Randy hit those high notes at the end...

"Audiences would stand up explode with just overwhelming appreciation and I’m not certain that that’s performed the same way. I think Glenn sings that now, if I’m not mistaken… He did co-write it with Randy, but to me I don’t think that song will ever be the same without Randy Meisner singing it. It’s like Whitney Houston. That song, I Will Always Love You, I think it was a Dolly Parton song. Dolly can sing it, but it ain’t gonna do the same thing that Whitney did!"




I don't think he is dissing Glenn here, calling him the spokesman, telling the jokes, intros to the songs. He is certainly very complimentary to Randy here. I do agree that the song TITTL is not the same without Randy, and he really gets into talking about how Randy got a huge reaction from the audience.

I agree that what he says about TGRY, was not that nice, but I don't think it was a dig against Glenn, more about the song itself. I have to agree that if I had to go to the bathroom, well, that would be the song I would go to.

FP, you see everything negative about what he says about Glenn, but it doesn't come off that way to me. I just am more open to him. You have to try not to take it all so personally. It was not all that bad. What do you expect?
I guess I kind of see what you're saying, but these are little minor things that I don't read as that terrible.

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VAisForEagleLovers
03-15-2013, 07:49 PM
I don't think he is dissing Glenn here, calling him the spokesman, telling the jokes, intros to the songs. He is certainly very complimentary to Randy here. I do agree that the song TITTL is not the same without Randy, and he really gets into talking about how Randy got a huge reaction from the audience.

I agree that what he says about TGRY, was not that nice, but I don't think it was a dig against Glenn, more about the song itself. I have to agree that if I had to go to the bathroom, well, that would be the song I would go to.

FP, you see everything negative about what he says about Glenn, but it doesn't come off that way to me. I just am more open to him. You have to try not to take it all so personally. It was not all that bad. What do you expect?
I guess I kind of see what you're saying, but these are little minor things that I don't read as that terrible.

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Of course you don't see anything negative about what he says. I'm not sure saying you're more open to him is correct. More like you fall for his BS each and every time.

On a side note, it's possible that quoting so much of the article rather than just the link back is a copyright violation. 'Fair Use' is nebulous and most media outlets are fair about it, but there is at least one corporation who owns a lot of smaller outlets who likes to sue sites that exist off of donations, because they know the people reading them will cough up the money to keep the site going. Better safe than sorry.

Freypower
03-15-2013, 08:01 PM
I don't think he is dissing Glenn here, calling him the spokesman, telling the jokes, intros to the songs. He is certainly very complimentary to Randy here. I do agree that the song TITTL is not the same without Randy, and he really gets into talking about how Randy got a huge reaction from the audience.

I agree that what he says about TGRY, was not that nice, but I don't think it was a dig against Glenn, more about the song itself. I have to agree that if I had to go to the bathroom, well, that would be the song I would go to.

FP, you see everything negative about what he says about Glenn, but it doesn't come off that way to me. I just am more open to him. You have to try not to take it all so personally. It was not all that bad. What do you expect?
I guess I kind of see what you're saying, but these are little minor things that I don't read as that terrible.

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The entire tone of referring to Glenn always telling the same jokes is full of sneering dislike. So is the TGFY stuff. It is not about the song at all; do you think Felder would have talked about one of Henley's songs in that way? Plus the blatant untruths, which I pointed out & you of course choose to ignore. If you cannot see that, there is nothing I can say to you. You tell me not to take it personally. I don't. I just get tired of the endless putdowns, & then when Glenn actually hit back in the documentary, you & others were very quick to join the 'let's abuse Glenn' bandwagon.

You like Felder & you don't like Glenn. I am the opposite. As much as you have the right to defend Felder I have the right to defend Glenn.

I bought Felder's album. I was prepared to give it a chance. I have not said much about what I think of it because there seems no point.

As for 'what did I expect'; again I could say the same about the documentary that apparently horrified you so much.

I don't want to argue with you. I wish Felder would drop this stuff & focus on himself & his future, that's all.

WalshFan88
03-15-2013, 08:18 PM
The entire tone of referring to Glenn always telling the same jokes is full of sneering dislike.

I thought that came from the source didn't it?! It said "Suite 101:" in front of that comment about the Plantiff joke. I didn't think that is what DF said. Could be wrong, but I read it as being their comment, not his.

Tiffanny Twisted
03-15-2013, 08:23 PM
fp

I like what you say about he( felder) should just move on......
I agree....and you said it so beautifully ty:computer:

Freypower
03-15-2013, 08:30 PM
I thought that came from the source didn't it?! It said "Suite 101:" in front of that comment about the Plantiff joke. I didn't think that is what DF said. Could be wrong, but I read it as being their comment, not his.

"I wouldn’t know… I would know that when I was in the band that Glenn really was the main front spokesman. He carried the dialogue and he had the history of being very repetitive from show to show. Every once in a while, he’d throw some new element in about a song and get a laugh or something, but it was pretty much like a show.

This is what Felder actually says. It's more dismissive than sneering, I guess. It's like 'oh yeah, Glenn was the frontman, so what'? It's the TGFY part that is sneering.

WalshFan88
03-15-2013, 08:35 PM
"I wouldn’t know… I would know that when I was in the band that Glenn really was the main front spokesman. He carried the dialogue and he had the history of being very repetitive from show to show. Every once in a while, he’d throw some new element in about a song and get a laugh or something, but it was pretty much like a show.

This is what Felder actually says. It's more dismissive than sneering, I guess. It's like 'oh yeah, Glenn was the frontman, so what'? It's the TGFY part that is sneering.

My mistake then. I thought you meant that you thought Felder is the one that said directly about the joke at every concert.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-15-2013, 09:22 PM
What bothers me about this is this article, and I've seen several like it, these people are so very obviously trying to cause trouble. Stir the pot, if you will. I will say that while Felder's constant digs at Glenn annoy me to no end, he seriously could have been a lot worse. He could have played along with these guys to their fullest wishes.

What was the point of this article? Why now? His new album is several months old, he is planning on touring but he has no dates announced. Yet he's been out and about at several locations talking on radio and getting interviewed for print media. All of these people are merely using him to get a good sound bite. The documentary was open and honest and while it missed some things due to time or didn't put enough focus on certain things according to certain people (it depends on who you talk to on what that is), but apparently it wasn't hateful enough for the media's liking. So they are out there stirring the pot, trying to poke and poke until one of these guys says something stupid by saying the wrong thing in the wrong way at the wrong time. Obviously, Felder is the only one really talking to the media. Randy isn't really up to it, Bernie is keeping quiet. Joe and Timothy have said little to nothing. I don't think Don's been interviewed since the movie came out on Showtime, and Glenn has only done interviews Down Under and has only answered one or two questions about it. Are the others just not being asked for interviews? Or is Felder the only one granting interviews and the rest are declining? I realize this is a good opportunity for him to be out there talking up his album, especially as he plans on touring this year. I guess he's used to the media being such slime and figures he might as well take advantage of it, but I'd be insulted to know I'm only being asked to do an interview in the hopes I screw up royally.

Assuming Henley ever actually releases his new album and tours for it, I'm sure he'll get asked and asked about the documentary and the past and since they'll want to sell some of the things, he'll have to answer at least some questions on it.

Topkat
03-16-2013, 12:03 AM
You know that whenever Felder is interviewed he is asked about the Eagles. so with the DVD coming out, I guess that is why they will interview him once again... They do ask about his album, but they will ALWAYS ask about the Eagles. They love to stir up the pot or try to get some dirt for their articles to make them more juicy....This is journalism these days....I guess we can expect more of the same...Yes, they do try to cause trouble. Maybe it will spark more interest in the DVD, who knows, but I guess that is the point of him getting all these interviews...to get his take on it, as it is part of the Eagles story.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-16-2013, 12:12 AM
First of all, I would agree with VA - it's not a good idea to post large portions of interviews or articles on the board even if you give credit. It's fine to quote a small exerpt, but not any more than that.


When he says, "reaching out" he means with a phone call or possibly an email is the way it seemed to me. I don't see him saying one word about Glenn, so I don't get where that is coming from.:doh: If he would reach out & call anyone, it would probably be Joe. I doubt he would contact Glenn. I have seen & heard most of his interviews & as far as what I've seen he does not mention Glenn. Things are not likely to change.

The thing is Felder has said repeatedly that he has tried to 'reach out' to his former bandmates, but all he gets are letters from lawyers. So like, FP, I wonder how and to whom he is 'reaching out'. If he is getting letters from lawyers, I assume he means he is 'reaching out' to Henley and/or Frey, which begs the question "Why"?. There's no way to know, but, the inconsistencies in his accounts are pretty obvious. TK, you can pick out pieces of interviews and quibble over what his intentions are, but, anyone that has listened to and read the collective body of his interviews and his book, and believes he doesn't diss Glenn has very selective memory on the matter.

And as far as the salacious journalism, that's an easy fix - he can either decline the interview or, at least, decline to answer certain questions. He talks about it because he wants to, plain and simple.

Tiffanny Twisted
03-16-2013, 08:57 AM
Va Has a point.
The only one they can get for an interview is Felder. Think about that.
Bernie knows to keep his mouth shut...he wants tobe part of the big tour I am sure,,,,RM isnt up to it from all I read about him.....GF is only talking about after hours and his recent tour... DH well the man just marches to beat of his own drummer....(no pun intend)
I agree with VA ..well said:computer:

VAisForEagleLovers
03-16-2013, 09:28 AM
Well, in my opinion, the existing Eagles need to be careful here. When the DVD is available for sale in a month and a half, do they really want Felder to be the only one out there talking about it? I realize that the media he's interviewing with aren't 'mainstream' and only reach a small number of people, but if he keeps this up, he'll have a large number of people hearing his take on the documentary just through sheer volume.

Tiffanny Twisted
03-16-2013, 10:02 AM
Va,
Dont you think as it gets closer to release date, DH and GF might say something about it??
I"d think they would have too
(MAybe not if they look at the shear volume of people pre ordering the dvd)
I mean a smart person who was a true fan of the band would have to take a look at whose talking and whose not an consider the source.

sodascouts
03-16-2013, 01:16 PM
Suite 101 asked Felder leading questions designed to get him to criticize the band.

For instance: "Suite 101: I've heard that, these days, the supposedly improvised 'banter' with the audience is actually scripted. Is that true?" Then, later, Suite 101 answers its own question with the "Plaintiff" joke.

So, obviously, they knew the Eagles have scripted banter and didn't need to ask. They just wanted to bait Felder and encourage him to take digs. Sadly, Felder played into it, although even so I don't think he gave Suite 101 what they really wanted, which was a full-on diss-fest.

You can't say that about TGFY, though. Felder initiated that dig all by himself. What he said in this interview is tame compared to how he rags on the song in its book. There, he presents Glenn as an object of mockery for even attempting a country song like that.

Correction about TITTL: I have been to many shows and seen Glenn's version get ovations. It doesn't happen every time, but it's happened at several shows I've been to. I remember one show especially where it got such an extended ovation that he seemed a little embarrassed. I think it was Louisville 2010 although I'm not positive.

I'm not saying it's necessarily better than Randy's version, but it still holds a great deal of power and I love it. So do most of the members of the audience.... so I'm not sure why Felder felt the need to bring up that comparison. He wasn't asked about that in particular.

On a more positive note, I'm glad Felder's new material is well-received. I think the songs he's doing are well-chosen and I'm eager to hear them done live.

P.S. I prefer Whitney's version too, but Felder's analogy is problematic, since Dolly was the original and he's saying in the case of Randy that the original is better!

VAisForEagleLovers
03-16-2013, 02:38 PM
At Glenn's show in Town Hall, people stood as soon as he started singing TITTL and everyone sang along. If you'll read my review of the show again, when I say I've never seen an audience and a performer so completely in tune with each other, it was mostly the moment at the end of this song that I meant. Most of the concert was that way, but the end of that song was a real moment for everyone in the building. He sang it with such fervor it was incredible. Everyone was already standing and so it wasn't an 'official' standing ovation, but the applause went on for a long time and I was close enough to see Glenn's reaction. Now after I've rambled on for forever, I'll just say that while the high notes are missing, it just means that everyone finds it easier to sing along.

ITA about Suite 101 leading him into questions designed to get him to say what they wanted him to say. It's what I was trying to say in my previous post. They all do it to some extent, but these guys weren't even subtle.

TT, I think that DH will at least do some interviews, assuming he gets his album out soon, he can do both at the same time. Glenn's been talking it up for nearly a year now, but now that it's out, or soon will be, I'm hoping he does more interviews, too. Perhaps even a few shows. :)

As for Felder, I keep thinking that soon he's going to announce some tour dates.

Freypower
03-16-2013, 08:31 PM
Va,
Dont you think as it gets closer to release date, DH and GF might say something about it??
I"d think they would have too
(MAybe not if they look at the shear volume of people pre ordering the dvd)
I mean a smart person who was a true fan of the band would have to take a look at whose talking and whose not an consider the source.

They talked about it at Sundance. Why would they say anything more about it? They will probably say more of the same when they promote it again in London.

Glenn didn't do much media in Australia, but it wasn't mentioned once. I get the feeling they think it is in the past already.

As for people believing Felder's version a lot of people including a couple on this board instantly decided that his version was correct. A lot of people claimed to be horrified by what Glenn said & villified him. That's already happened.

TITTL wasn't a big highlight at the Australian shows, I have to say, at least not for me. I was too overwhelmed by the previous songs.

And quite frankly, and this is particularly gratifying for me, the fact that TFGY has been resurrected after so long was a very proud & poignant moment. There are better songs. There are also many which are a lot worse, including ones the Eagles persisted with after they dropped TGFY. I speak of LWKUA, of course. My opinion.

GlennLover
03-16-2013, 10:37 PM
In one recent interview when Glenn was asked about the situation with Felder he said that all he would say is that "Heaven & Hell" contained many "inaccuracies".

VAisForEagleLovers
03-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Glenn didn't do much media in Australia, but it wasn't mentioned once. I get the feeling they think it is in the past already.


You mean he didn't mention it during the show? He mentioned it in several interviews. Don mentioned the Showtime premiere during his show on Feb. 1.

Freypower
03-16-2013, 11:11 PM
You mean he didn't mention it during the show? He mentioned it in several interviews. Don mentioned the Showtime premiere during his show on Feb. 1.

I will take your word for it; I was more interested in the tour itself, to be honest.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-17-2013, 01:06 PM
Correction about TITTL: I have been to many shows and seen Glenn's version get ovations. It doesn't happen every time, but it's happened at several shows I've been to. I remember one show especially where it got such an extended ovation that he seemed a little embarrassed. I think it was Louisville 2010 although I'm not positive.

I'm not saying it's necessarily better than Randy's version, but it still holds a great deal of power and I love it. So do most of the members of the audience.... so I'm not sure why Felder felt the need to bring up that comparison. He wasn't asked about that in particular.

I think it was Louisville too where TITTL got such a huge rousing ovation. From my experiences, this is still usually one of the best received songs in the setlist at shows. However, there have been a couple of occasions where I've seen the crowd just erupt and go wild over it.

Now - Do I prefer Randy's version? Yes. And the main reason is because of the way the high notes build in intensity, especially at the end of the song. There is no way that Glenn can hit those notes, but I've always said I wished that Timothy would sing them now. However, Tim has said that he didn't want to do it out of respect for Randy and I can certainly appreciate that. As much as I would love to hear it as a fan, I guess they think it might come across as 'in your face' under the circumstances ... like 'Okay Randy - you don't think you can hit those notes - well, let me show you how it's done'. So, I'll take what I can get. I'll take the song without the high notes rather than not at all any day! :thumbsup:

sodascouts
03-17-2013, 02:31 PM
I also prefer an electric version or an orchestral version over plain acoustic. A dramatic song like TITTL benefits from arrangements that give an intense musical climax, be it with those high vocals or with dramatic instrumentation when such vocals are absent. The acoustic with its mellow strumming just never achieves that level of intensity (although it certainly is better than nothing and I still enjoy it immensely).

Topkat
03-17-2013, 03:37 PM
TITTL was in the past kind of Randy's signature song, but now that he's been out of the Eagles for over 30 years, not a lot of people even remember Randy or know that as Randy's song. I think Glenn's version is good, but it's different, as it should be. I can understand Timothy not wanting to do it. I guess Glenn thought the song was good enough to keep in the setlist & put his own spin on it....When I copied that part of the interview, I was merely pointing out that Fleder had some nice things to say about Randy....but somehow this has turned into being about Glenn....Whatever??:eyebrow:

As for Felder, I know he is doing a music cruise, with some other groups & his daughter. I think. I also read somewhere he is doing the Jeff Probst show?? Not sure when that is.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-17-2013, 03:51 PM
I also prefer an electric version or an orchestral version over plain acoustic. A dramatic song like TITTL benefits from arrangements that give an intense musical climax, be it with those high vocals or with dramatic instrumentation when such vocals are absent. The acoustic with its mellow strumming just never achieves that level of intensity (although it certainly is better than nothing and I still enjoy it immensely).

Oh yes! I prefer an electric version of the song so much better than the acoustic version. The first time I heard Glenn do an electric version after seeing his acoustic version for so long, I thought I was going to pass out.

Freypower
03-17-2013, 08:34 PM
TITTL was in the past kind of Randy's signature song, but now that he's been out of the Eagles for over 30 years, not a lot of people even remember Randy or know that as Randy's song. I think Glenn's version is good, but it's different, as it should be. I can understand Timothy not wanting to do it. I guess Glenn thought the song was good enough to keep in the setlist & put his own spin on it....When I copied that part of the interview, I was merely pointing out that Fleder had some nice things to say about Randy....but somehow this has turned into being about Glenn....Whatever??:eyebrow:

As for Felder, I know he is doing a music cruise, with some other groups & his daughter. I think. I also read somewhere he is doing the Jeff Probst show?? Not sure when that is.

1. I think it is far too simplistic to say that 'not a lot of people even remember Randy or know it as Randy's song'. If they have the OOTN album they will know. People who have been fans since the 70s will know.

2. Felder says nice things about Randy, Bernie, Henley, Joe & Tim. All of them. He does NOT say nice things about Glenn. Ever.

I can only assume that the version of TITTL I have just seen is the acoustic version because Glenn plays acoustic guitar. I don't know the 'electric' version at all.

sodascouts
03-17-2013, 08:49 PM
Not quite FP - you saw the orchestral version, which is a lot better than the plain Jane acoustic.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-17-2013, 08:53 PM
Not quite FP - you saw the orchestral version, which is a lot better than the plain Jane acoustic.

It was freaking awesome in New York at Town Hall. I may have mentioned that already...

sodascouts
03-17-2013, 09:42 PM
It was staggering at the Wiltern. LOVED. IT.

TimothyBFan
03-18-2013, 08:36 AM
Suite 101: I've heard that, these days, the supposedly improvised 'banter' with the audience is actually scripted. Is that true?

"I wouldn’t know… I would know that when I was in the band that Glenn really was the main front spokesman. He carried the dialogue and he had the history of being very repetitive from show to show. Every once in a while, he’d throw some new element in about a song and get a laugh or something, but it was pretty much like a show.

First of all, WHY did they even ask a question about what's going on "these days" to ANY ex-member who hasn't been with the band for years? Pretty stupid if you ask me. Almost like they were digging for something.

And as for Felder's answer, I will probably regret this, but the part about "being very repetitive"? Haven't we said that over and over right here on the board?


You tell me not to take it personally. I don't. I just get tired of the endless putdowns, & then when Glenn actually hit back in the documentary, you & others were very quick to join the 'let's abuse Glenn' bandwagon.



As for people believing Felder's version a lot of people including a couple on this board instantly decided that his version was correct. A lot of people claimed to be horrified by what Glenn said & villified him. That's already happened.

I don't think that's being fair. First I never "abused" Glenn in anyway shape or form. I did, however, say I was disappointed by his reaction and the anger that I felt he expressed. I would hardly call that "abuse". It was my opinion, which we all here are always quick to say we are all entitled to over and over but then when someone speaks out, we sometimes get criticized for it. Some of us see it one way, and others see it differently.

I will also point out once someone stated that perhaps Glenn was trying to show how he reacted when the actual event happened, I admitted that could of been the case and would give him the benefit of a doubt. I'm willing to listen to what others think but it doesn't always mean I will change my point of view. And in reading many, many other forums (one was a gear head forum I wish I could find now to post a link to) I know it wasn't just us seeing it 2 different ways.

And I stated several times that how I felt about Glenn's reaction had little to nothing to do with liking Felder. I really don't care one way or the other about Felder.


VAisForEaglesLovers]What bothers me about this is this article, and I've seen several like it, these people are so very obviously trying to cause trouble. Stir the pot, if you will. I will say that while Felder's constant digs at Glenn annoy me to no end, he seriously could have been a lot worse. He could have played along with these guys to their fullest wishes.EXACTLY!!! And that is what I said in my first entry in this post!!!!



And quite frankly, and this is particularly gratifying for me, the fact that TFGY has been resurrected after so long was a very proud & poignant moment. There are better songs. There are also many which are a lot worse, including ones the Eagles persisted with after they dropped TGFY. I speak of LWKUA, of course. My opinion.

Couldn't agree more!! I like LWKUA but I truly believe TGFY is a superior song and I'd be glad to see it back in the setlist.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-18-2013, 09:28 AM
A good video interview with Don.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AyJMEEtt4

Freypower
03-18-2013, 05:00 PM
I don't think that's being fair. First I never "abused" Glenn in anyway shape or form. I did, however, say I was disappointed by his reaction and the anger that I felt he expressed. I would hardly call that "abuse". It was my opinion, which we all here are always quick to say we are all entitled to over and over but then when someone speaks out, we sometimes get criticized for it. Some of us see it one way, and others see it differently.

I will also point out once someone stated that perhaps Glenn was trying to show how he reacted when the actual event happened, I admitted that could of been the case and would give him the benefit of a doubt. I'm willing to listen to what others think but it doesn't always mean I will change my point of view. And in reading many, many other forums (one was a gear head forum I wish I could find now to post a link to) I know it wasn't just us seeing it 2 different ways.

And I stated several times that how I felt about Glenn's reaction had little to nothing to do with liking Felder. I really don't care one way or the other about Felder.



Regarding the villification of Glenn, I wasn't referring to people on this board but to postings on other sites which really tore into him.

As for this board my use of the phrase 'let's abuse Glenn' was perhaps too strong. It did upset me at the time particularly as I was about to see Glenn in concert. But you in particular were very open about it & as you say you changed your mind to some extent.

Regarding TGFY though, I haven't quoted what you said, but while it may return to Glenn's setlist I don't believe the Eagles will reinstate it.

AEW21
04-12-2013, 10:39 PM
Just told a story in how they'd do lines of coke off their amps on the quick during shows back in the day....

Think they put audio up of show the next day....


VH1 Classics Carter's On Tap (http://www.vh1classicontap.com/)

RebeccaLovesEagles
04-14-2013, 03:09 PM
nice interview:partytime:

sodascouts
04-14-2013, 04:33 PM
Is the whole interview up yet? I just found the "cocaine on the amps" snippet.

WalshFan88
04-14-2013, 06:13 PM
Cool interview.

VAisForEagleLovers
04-22-2013, 02:55 PM
This is interview covers a lot of ground, so I'll put it in this thread. It's not dated, but Don just pushed it to Facebook, so it must be relatively new.

http://www.vintagerock.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1490%3Athe-don-felder-interview&catid=3%3Ainterviews&Itemid=4

sodascouts
04-22-2013, 11:29 PM
It was updated to include the fact that Felder is adding tour dates but it only mentions Columbus, so it's probably from the end of March. Thanks for posting it.

Topkat
04-23-2013, 04:27 PM
that was a great interview...thanks for posting VA

VAisForEagleLovers
04-29-2013, 11:19 PM
Having just watched the documentary again for the first time in a few weeks, this stood out to me. In the interview I posted above, Felder says:


No, that was pretty much it. I had a little Teac four-track in my bedroom and I went back and recorded about four or five times through that progression so I wouldn’t forget it, and then went back later and wrote the bass part, wrote the other guitar parts to it, including the dueling guitars on the ending, and just wrote a chorus section … just actually finished the track.

He said he wrote the dueling guitars at the end, and in the Probst interview he said he wrote the entire thing except for lyrics. In the documentary, he says that they were in the studio and Joe said "Why don't we do something like this?" and then he sings the dueling guitar part.

This isn't a Frey/Henley said A and Felder said B. Felder said them both. I wonder which one is correct?

Freypower
04-29-2013, 11:24 PM
Having just watched the documentary again for the first time in a few weeks, this stood out to me. In the interview I posted above, Felder says:



He said he wrote the dueling guitars at the end, and in the Probst interview he said he wrote the entire thing except for lyrics. In the documentary, he says that they were in the studio and Joe said "Why don't we do something like this?" and then he sings the dueling guitar part.

This isn't a Frey/Henley said A and Felder said B. Felder said them both. I wonder which one is correct?

Glenn backs up Joe's version in the One Show.

VAisForEagleLovers
04-29-2013, 11:28 PM
Glenn backs up Joe's version in the One Show.

Grrrrrr. I want to see it!

Freypower
04-29-2013, 11:34 PM
Glenn said that there had been discussions on how the guitar parts would go & there had been general agreement that Joe & Felder would 'face off' but it hadn't been fully worked out. So one night he & Henley went to dinner (normally when he & Henley were working on lyrics, they sent the others to dinner) & while they were gone, Joe & Felder worked out the duelling guitars part, or most of it. Joe said he & Felder were very competitive & decided to do the part at the end so 'neither of them would win' which Glenn found very amusing.

I will leave others to decide if this has the ring of truth, or not.

VAisForEagleLovers
04-29-2013, 11:59 PM
It agrees with what Felder said during the documentary, just with more detail.

I have to say, having just watched the footage from the 1977 concert, Felder makes it look a lot easier than Joe does.

WalshFan88
04-30-2013, 06:26 AM
I've mainly always heard that Joe came up with the "da da da" part at the end and wanted to do the twin leads at the end. They both did their great solos, but Joe wanted them to go head to head on the outro. I'm not sure if Joe's own solo (2nd half of the two solos) was Felder's creation, but I'm almost 100 percent sure the outro twin thing was Joe's idea to put on the end, and I'm so glad he did. I have a DVD with Felder and he said the outro was Joe's idea, and I've heard him say that before a few times in interviews but AFAIK he did write both solos and that's what went on record because DH wanted it like the demo tape. And Joe suggested adding the duel at the end...

sad-cafe
04-30-2013, 09:07 PM
I think Felder is mechanical where as Joe puts a lot of emotion in

chaim
05-02-2013, 05:38 AM
Don F has contradicted himself before, so I'm not surprised here (referring to the harmonized guitars at the end of HC). Like I've said in another thread, in his book he says that he himself called Victim Of Love "Iron lung", because it reminded him of his childhood illness. He also says in his book that the others agreed with him, that the riff does sound like someone has trouble breathing. However, in an interview some time later he said that "someone, probably Glenn, called it 'Iron lung', which I found slightly offensive" (probably not word for word, because this is from memory).
Not to bash Don F, but he does seem to have a habit of sometimes telling the same stories in a different way. Maybe he just remembers stuff differently on different occasions. I really do believe that Joe came up with that last bit of the harmonized solo, because Don F has said this at some point, and I don't think that it's easy for a guitarist to admit that some other guitarist came up with such a cool part in his song!
Let's not forget that in his book Don F decided to keep alive the myth that he played the ICTYW solo on the record, by not mentioning that he's talking about the rhythm guitar part in the song. It was only rather recently, when someone actually asked him who played the solo on the record, that he said Glenn did. So I'm not surprised that he has moments when he slips in "including the dueling guitars on the ending" kind of stuff. Of course he's a good guy, but sometimes he seems to "blow his own horn" a bit when it comes to Eagles music, while Glenn, for example, seems to be more humble that way. But I have to remind myself that most people, including myself, want people to know about their contributions.

PS. I think someone said that Don makes the last bit look easier than Joe. Joe's bit is slightly harder. You have to stretch you fingers more.

VAisForEagleLovers
05-02-2013, 07:42 AM
Interesting interviews. Came up in a Google alert this morning, but it's not dated.

http://www.latestfromthegreatest.com/don-felder/

yekrut
05-02-2013, 07:48 AM
I agree with everything you said here. I think you nailed it. Well spoken.


Don F has contradicted himself before, so I'm not surprised here (referring to the harmonized guitars at the end of HC). Like I've said in another thread, in his book he says that he himself called Victim Of Love "Iron lung", because it reminded him of his childhood illness. He also says in his book that the others agreed with him, that the riff does sound like someone has trouble breathing. However, in an interview some time later he said that "someone, probably Glenn, called it 'Iron lung', which I found slightly offensive" (probably not word for word, because this is from memory).
Not to bash Don F, but he does seem to have a habit of sometimes telling the same stories in a different way. Maybe he just remembers stuff differently on different occasions. I really do believe that Joe came up with that last bit of the harmonized solo, because Don F has said this at some point, and I don't think that it's easy for a guitarist to admit that some other guitarist came up with such a cool part in his song!
Let's not forget that in his book Don F decided to keep alive the myth that he played the ICTYW solo on the record, by not mentioning that he's talking about the rhythm guitar part in the song. It was only rather recently, when someone actually asked him who played the solo on the record, that he said Glenn did. So I'm not surprised that he has moments when he slips in "including the dueling guitars on the ending" kind of stuff. Of course he's a good guy, but sometimes he seems to "blow his own horn" a bit when it comes to Eagles music, while Glenn, for example, seems to be more humble that way. But I have to remind myself that most people, including myself, want people to know about their contributions.

PS. I think someone said that Don makes the last bit look easier than Joe. Joe's bit is slightly harder. You have to stretch you fingers more.

WalshFan88
05-02-2013, 10:54 AM
I think Felder is mechanical where as Joe puts a lot of emotion in

I think Felder puts emotion in, but he's more reserved and has a really schooled theory-based approach to playing guitar. To put it simply, he's a technician. Joe is a very bluesy emotion-filled guitar player that plays from the heart and really is all over the place, in a good way. Some might call it sloppy, I just call it raw.

VAisForEagleLovers
05-11-2013, 08:20 AM
A good interview with Don. He talks in more detail how he and Joe's parts in HC were written and recorded.

http://www.wcbe.org/post/conversation-musician-don-felder

WalshFan88
05-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Very nice... The iconic duel!

Ive always been a dreamer
05-11-2013, 01:30 PM
Yep - I still don't get why Joe wasn't given a songwriting credit for his contributions on the song. But, it doesn't seem to bother Joe, so I guess it shouldn't bother me. The band would certainly know more about it than me, that's for sure. I would just like to hear someone specifically address this when they talk about it, that's all. :thumbsup:

chaim
05-12-2013, 05:52 AM
Yep - I still don't get why Joe wasn't given a songwriting credit for his contributions on the song. But, it doesn't seem to bother Joe, so I guess it shouldn't bother me. The band would certainly know more about it than me, that's for sure. I would just like to hear someone specifically address this when they talk about it, that's all. :thumbsup:

If you mean Hotel California, Joe didn't contribute anything to the actual composition. Usually you don't get a credit for adding a part like that "duel" to a song. Being a KISS fan, I like to use KISS examples, so I may have mentioned this before.:laugh: The main riff in some of Paul Stanley's early songs (Black Diamond, Firehouse, Love Her All I Can) were written by Simmons, but the songs had otherwise already been written by Stanley. Simmons came up with a bassline for himself to play, but Stanley and Frehley started to play those lines too with guitars. So those basslines eventually became the main hooks of those songs. Yet Simmons didn't feel that he actually contributed to the composition, so he didn't feel that he should've been credited. On the other hand, it seems that some other musicians cry for a credit even for a drum fill. But, I think, most of the time you're not credited when you add some instrumental part on top of a composition.

Ive always been a dreamer
05-12-2013, 12:47 PM
Thanks for the explanation, chaim. I understand, but I guess I'm one that feels that anyone who makes a significant contribution to a song should be given credit. And to me, Joe's contribution to the end of Hotel California is a pretty significant part of the song. But, as I said, I've never heard Joe complain, and he sure knows a lot more about it than me. :thumbsup:

sodascouts
05-12-2013, 06:44 PM
Thanks for giving us an expert perspective, chaim. The nuances of songwriting credits may be difficult for those of us not involved in it to understand, but the way you explain it makes sense.

WalshFan88
05-13-2013, 12:25 PM
Yeah I'm not too surprised he didn't get a credit for it but it is a HUGE part of the solo and it's cool that Felder gives him credit for that part of the song.

Turf
05-19-2013, 05:30 PM
I've always found the practices surrounding song-writing credits as they relate to guitar solos and riffs to be a bit baffling. Every once in a while there are these subjects that get analyzed from a legal perspective and somewhere between the subject's domain (music, in this case) and the legal domain, something seems to get lost. I've had similar feelings regarding some of the legalities surrounding software licensing.

So, for example, you [reader] and I could start a band. We call it the Beagles, since we plan to cover a lot of Beatles and Eagles songs (of course!). But, we're also going to write some stuff of our own. To begin our songwriting effort, I present a verse and chorus based on incredibly basic chord progressions (something like G - C - D). The bass plays the roots of the chords, the drummer uses cliche beats, I scribble down some lyrics about being taken advantage of by unscrupulous women and voila, we have our first single which we call Cardio Kleptomania.

Sadly, it's a bit lacking, so we extend the verse chord progression two thirds through the song and ask you to record a guitar solo, which you do enthusiastically (you're an awesome bandmate).

In true Justin Bieber, Never-Say-Never fashion, our first song skyrockets to the top of itunes and overnight we get 40,000,000 twitter followers (move over Lady Gaga), crashing twitter in the process. A bit to my dismay, as we start to hear feedback about the song and come to realize that its strength is neither my I-IV-V chord progression (who'd a thunk?) nor the picture painted by the lyrics describing my history of dysfunctional relationships (from my youth, of course...), but rather, everybody loooooves the guitar solo.

Yes, Guitar World publishes an emergency issue just to declare your solo the best ever written. Rolling Stone Magazine puts us on the cover (I buy five copies ... for my mother). In a rare act of bipartisanship, Congress passes a resolution (now that's an accomplishment...) declaring the day on which Cardio Kleptomania was released as "National Guitar Solo Day." In episodes somewhat reminiscent of Ewan McGregor's near exit (http://www.contactmusic.com/news/mcgregor-almost-quit-after-watching-day-lewis_1119444) from the world of acting, Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page, Joe Walsh, Don Felder and a whole host of other notable guitarists declare that they are no longer going to play guitar, each explaining him or herself with the same rhetorical question: "What's the point?"

And here's the kicker... You don't even have any writing credits on the song! :brickwall:

Of course, you could have writing credit if band agreed to it. But much of the conventional wisdom on the subject is that just adding a guitar solo is not sufficient enough of a contribution to be credited. I can understand a fill here and there, but a guitar solo? Really?!

Anyway, here is an interesting article (http://performermag.com/2011/07/22/credit-check-what-constitutes-a-co-writer-part-1-of-2/) on the subject.

Prettymaid
05-19-2013, 05:39 PM
Turf, I'm not sure what my thoughts are on song writing credits for guitar soloists, but your whole Beagles band story had me cracking up! Thanks for that!:hilarious:

sodascouts
05-19-2013, 05:48 PM
I've always found the practices surrounding song-writing credits as they relate to guitar solos and riffs to be a bit baffling. Every once in a while there are these subjects that get analyzed from a legal perspective and somewhere between the subject's domain (music, in this case) and the legal domain, something seems to get lost. I've had similar feelings regarding some of the legalities surrounding software licensing.

So, for example, you [reader] and I could start a band. We call it the Beagles, since we plan to cover a lot of Beatles and Eagles songs (of course!). But, we're also going to write some stuff of our own. To begin our songwriting effort, I present a verse and chorus based on incredibly basic chord progressions (something like G - C - D). The bass plays the roots of the chords, the drummer uses cliche beats, I scribble down some lyrics about being taken advantage of by unscrupulous women and voila, we have our first single which we call Cardio Kleptomania.

Sadly, it's a bit lacking, so we extend the verse chord progression two thirds through the song and ask you to record a guitar solo, which you do enthusiastically (you're an awesome bandmate).

In true Justin Bieber, Never-Say-Never fashion, our first song skyrockets to the top of itunes and overnight we get 40,000,000 twitter followers (move over Lady Gaga), crashing twitter in the process. A bit to my dismay, as we start to hear feedback about the song and come to realize that its strength is neither my I-IV-V chord progression (who'd a thunk?) nor the picture painted by the lyrics describing my history of dysfunctional relationships (from my youth, of course...), but rather, everybody loooooves the guitar solo.

Yes, Guitar World publishes an emergency issue just to declare your solo the best ever written. Rolling Stone Magazine puts us on the cover (I buy five copies ... for my mother). In a rare act of bipartisanship, Congress passes a resolution (now that's an accomplishment...) declaring the day on which Cardio Kleptomania was released as "National Guitar Solo Day." In episodes somewhat reminiscent of Ewan McGregor's near exit (http://www.contactmusic.com/news/mcgregor-almost-quit-after-watching-day-lewis_1119444) from the world of acting, Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page, Joe Walsh, Don Felder and a whole host of other notable guitarists declare that they are no longer going to play guitar, each explaining him or herself with the same rhetorical question: "What's the point?"

And here's the kicker... You don't even have any writing credits on the song! :brickwall:

Of course, you could have writing credit if band agreed to it. But much of the conventional wisdom on the subject is that just adding a guitar solo is not sufficient enough of a contribution to be credited. I can understand a fill here and there, but a guitar solo? Really?!

Anyway, here is an interesting article (http://performermag.com/2011/07/22/credit-check-what-constitutes-a-co-writer-part-1-of-2/) on the subject.

LOL Turf!! I get the picture! ;)

VAisForEagleLovers
05-19-2013, 06:44 PM
Turf, I loved your theoretical situation!!!

I have read or heard in interviews that in general, back in the day, bands or groups of people that write together would all agree ahead of time on how the songwriting credits would go. I have a hard time believing that happened every time.

There are people on this board that have said that Felder's intro to HC makes the song and since he wrote the chord progressions and started it, he has songwriting credits. However, he wrote the bass intro to One of These Nights and I'm sorry, that intro is critical to the success of the song in my opinion. It's my favorite Eagles song and I doubt it would be without that intro. He doesn't have songwriting credits on the song, but can anyone imagine that song without that intro? There's a 'rule' when writing fiction. You need to cast the line, dangle the bait, get the fish, and set the hook in the first 250 words. In other words, get the reader hooked on the book. In my opinion, that's exactly what that intro does. Unlike some other great intros other bands have come up with, the rest of song doesn't at all disappoint, it gets better and better.

Turf
05-19-2013, 06:51 PM
My understanding of the writing of the outro solo on HC has evolved over time. Felder (mostly) seems to add tidbits here and there in all the different interviews.

For the purposes of discussion, I'm going to divide up the solo into three different sections.

(A) Felder and Walsh trade licks
(B) Both play a short run in harmony
(C) Felder and Walsh very systematically play arpeggios (notes of a chord played separately) in harmony

Felder's original demo tape included a two-guitar outro solo; he specifically wrote it for himself and Joe. However, I'm guessing that the demo outro probably only included section (A). Felder says his solo parts were on the demo [1] (albeit, the song was in a different key). Furthermore, he says Joe came up with some licks which sounds consistent (basically) with Joe explaining that Felder and he each wrote their own part of (A) [2].

Based on The History of the Eagles and this interview [3], Felder explains that Joe came up with the idea of (C), describing it verbally as something like:

Da-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da...

Felder took the idea and translated it into guitar parts for he and Walsh to play. If you look at what's actually being played, both guitars are playing different notes from the same arpeggio, at different positions on the guitar. The chords used in the arpeggio are the same (or effectively the same) as the underlying chord from the chord progression, which Felder also wrote.

With situations like section (C), it's easy to see how questions of "who wrote what" can get a bit tricky...

Some sources:

[1] Guitar World - Don Felder talks about Hotel California (http://www.guitarworld.com/100_greatest_guitar_solos_8_quothotel_californiaqu ot_ben_felder_joe_walsh). The same or equivalent interview I believe was published in the magazine itself much earlier.

[2] Joe Walsh Interview (http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/52h09.html)

[3] Don Felder Interview (http://www.wcbe.org/post/conversation-musician-don-felder)

VAisForEagleLovers
05-19-2013, 07:00 PM
There was also a recent interview by Joe that those of us here in the States can't hear where he discusses how it was written. The interview with Felder was about a week or so later and he also went into detail and cleared up some unclear accounts he'd given earlier. Perhaps he's realized that not all of us speak 'songwriter-speak' and that he needs to spell it out!

Turf
05-19-2013, 07:05 PM
There was also a recent interview by Joe that those of us here in the States can't hear where he discusses how it was written. The interview with Felder was about a week or so later and he also went into detail and cleared up some unclear accounts he'd given earlier. Perhaps he's realized that not all of us speak 'songwriter-speak' and that he needs to spell it out!

That's interesting. Do you have any more details about that interview? Hopefully, we'll get to hear or read it at some point.

VAisForEagleLovers
05-19-2013, 07:09 PM
Not a lot, no. There are comments somewhere near the end of the Sundance thread I think. Perhaps also the Eagles in the Press thread. Several of our members made comments and probably not all in the same place.

sodascouts
05-19-2013, 07:49 PM
We try to keep topics organized here but it's not always easy!

VAisForEagleLovers
05-19-2013, 07:50 PM
I know! They were in London for the Sundance festival and talked about the movie and a lot of other things, so it's hard to know where to put something!

chaim
05-21-2013, 03:58 AM
Turf 's points are all valid. But the sad truth seems to be that even if you start banging G, C and D chords and a song evolves out of that, you're credited because you "initiated" the song, even if it's your only contribution. However, if the same song is born in another way: Someone else writes a melody first, and then you add those G, C and D chords, you probably are not credited, because generally chord progressions aren't considered "copyrightable". At least here in Finland adding chords to an already existing melody doesn't officially mean a thing when it comes to credits. In my opinion this is absurd, because what makes a listener feel a certain way is usually the way the melody and chords work together.

To add to the confusion, Glen Buxton (the lead guitarist in the original Alice Cooper group) came up with the School's Out riff that opens the song and is the basis of the verses. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUYfaHJFZiw

The rest of the song was basically written by Michael Bruce (rhythm guitarist, who came up with the chords) and Alice (who came up with the lyrics and most likely the vocal melody). Now, Buxton was credited; it was his riff and it started the songwriting process. However, in his book Michael Bruce hints that only he and Alice should've been credited, not even Buxton, who wrote the riff. He says something like "the guys didn't know anything about song publishing". What do you think? Should Buxton not have been credited for writing that riff? A riff that constantly pops up in "best riffs" polls.

Another interesting case is A Whiter Shade Of Pale. The song had already been copyrighted when Matthew Fisher joined the band and came up with that organ theme. Brooker wanted something Bach-like there, but it was Fisher who came up with it. Although almost all the licks are from a Bach piece (not Air on a G string, but a piece which is also called "Sleepers awake"), he sued Brooker and co 42 years after the song was recorded and demanded half of the composer credit.

About Hotel California...Those chords are not unique, although Don F seems to think they are. In his book he also says "...with its sudden shift from a minor key to the dominant major for the chorus". 1) There's really no "shift" or modulation, just a slight hint of the relative major key, 2) the dominant key is nowhere to be heard, 3) the "shift" is perfectly logical and common; nothing "sudden" about it. The relative key is the most ordinary use of modulation. For those who know about "chord degrees" (not sure how to say it in English), all it does is move from V to VI, which has been a very ordinary movement probably since the renaissance era.
By the "unusual chromatic progression" Don means that you are able to play a descending chromatic line on top of the chords. That's how he plays the main acoustic part and later one of the harmony guitars does that in the verses. But again, that is very common. One doesn't look further than at "Wasted time" on the same album. Listen to the "You never thought you'd be alone..." part. The bassline (Glenn's left hand on the piano) descends chromatically. It's exactly the same movement. So Glenn came up with an "unusual chromatic progression" too. And this time I'm not even going to talk about how many songs had already had that basic HC chords progression...One example, starts at 1:44:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIxeKPqkUk

So, Don didn't do anything unusual with the chords, but his "reggae" rhythm, arrangement, and later Don H's and Glenn's vocal melodies and lyrics made the song unique.

By the way, if you want to hear somewhat unique chord progressions and "sudden shifts", listen to stuff like this, Don:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88hta7AJqQ

Those chord progressions probably don't sound as unique as they are, though.

chaim
05-21-2013, 04:05 AM
Turf, I loved your theoretical situation!!!

I have read or heard in interviews that in general, back in the day, bands or groups of people that write together would all agree ahead of time on how the songwriting credits would go. I have a hard time believing that happened every time.

There are people on this board that have said that Felder's intro to HC makes the song and since he wrote the chord progressions and started it, he has songwriting credits. However, he wrote the bass intro to One of These Nights and I'm sorry, that intro is critical to the success of the song in my opinion. It's my favorite Eagles song and I doubt it would be without that intro. He doesn't have songwriting credits on the song, but can anyone imagine that song without that intro? There's a 'rule' when writing fiction. You need to cast the line, dangle the bait, get the fish, and set the hook in the first 250 words. In other words, get the reader hooked on the book. In my opinion, that's exactly what that intro does. Unlike some other great intros other bands have come up with, the rest of song doesn't at all disappoint, it gets better and better.

Yes, a good point. But I think it's also the case of drawing the line somewhere. Otherwise everyone would be fighting for a credit, because they added "something". That intro is a significant contribution, that's for sure, but I think it's considered part of the arrangement more than part of the composition. Think about it this way: If you did a totally different version of the song, which bits could you leave out? Certainly not the melody and the lyrics, and most likely the (possible) new chords would in some way be based on the original ones. But the song could probably exist without the intro, if the arrangement was totally different. Also, the intro bassline was based on an already existing verse chord progression, so I can understand if they considered it part of the arrangement. It's certainly a huge part of the arrangement. Actually the intro is a fine collaboration between Don F and Glenn, even if Don doesn't like to scream about it. Don wrote the bassline, and Glenn came up with those harmonized guitars.

HeatherB
06-06-2013, 05:04 PM
http://www.sandiego6.com/story/don-felder-20130606

WalshFan88
06-06-2013, 05:53 PM
Awesome!!! Thanks for posting.

Don is the man for sure.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-06-2013, 06:03 PM
http://www.sandiego6.com/story/don-felder-20130606

Don put out this tweet about it: Check me out on XETV's "San Diego Living." I meant to say that "HC" won "Record of the Year," not "Album of the Year." That's what I get for getting up early in the morning to do a TV interview!

WalshFan88
06-06-2013, 06:11 PM
Don put out this tweet about it: Check me out on XETV's "San Diego Living." I meant to say that "HC" won "Record of the Year," not "Album of the Year." That's what I get for getting up early in the morning to do a TV interview!

Isn't a record and an album the same thing? Or by record does he mean the single? I've always called albums "records". :D

Prettymaid
06-06-2013, 06:51 PM
Isn't a record and an album the same thing? Or by record does he mean the single? I've always called albums "records". :D

I think record means single. But you're right - an album is a record, too.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-06-2013, 06:57 PM
Isn't a record and an album the same thing? Or by record does he mean the single? I've always called albums "records". :D

If they were the same thing, they couldn't hand out as many awards.

Freypower
06-06-2013, 06:58 PM
The Record Of The Year was Hotel California, the song. The Album Of The Year was Rumours.

Not only that but they have a separate award for 'Song Of The Year'.

SilverMoon
06-06-2013, 10:30 PM
Thank you very much for posting this interview, HeatherB!

Ive always been a dreamer
06-06-2013, 10:36 PM
Now that was a great interview, even with his error about the grammy for album of the year - very positive. Thanks for posting the link, and also glad to see that he corrected his mistake on Twitter.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-06-2013, 10:41 PM
Now that was a great interview, even with his error about the grammy for album of the year - very positive. Thanks for posting the link, and also glad to see that he corrected his mistake on Twitter.

And Facebook, as it happens...

SilverMoon
06-06-2013, 10:56 PM
Don put out this tweet about it: Check me out on XETV's "San Diego Living." I meant to say that "HC" won "Record of the Year," not "Album of the Year." That's what I get for getting up early in the morning to do a TV interview!
This is a very nice tweet.

SilverMoon
06-06-2013, 10:59 PM
Now that was a great interview, even with his error about the grammy for album of the year - very positive. Thanks for posting the link, and also glad to see that he corrected his mistake on Twitter.
Yes, he made a mistake in this interview. He said that “Hotel California” won “Album of the Year”. That’s funny because Timothy said the same in an interview once.

Ive always been a dreamer
06-06-2013, 11:23 PM
Yes, he made a mistake in this interview. He said that “Hotel California” won “Album of the Year”. That’s funny because Timothy said the same in an interview once.

My post wasn't meant to be negative or critical. Any one of us can make mistakes - it happens. My comment was meant as a compliment - I appreciate that Don was so positive in the interview and that he later corrected his error.

SilverMoon
06-07-2013, 11:05 PM
My post wasn't meant to be negative or critical. Any one of us can make mistakes - it happens. My comment was meant as a compliment - I appreciate that Don was so positive in the interview and that he later corrected his error.
Your comment was very clear, mine wasn’t. I was just pointing out that Don and Timothy made the same mistake when talking about “Hotel California”. I found that funny. You’re right, we all make mistakes. Your comment was nice.

sodascouts
06-09-2013, 03:12 PM
The mistake is an easy one to make. Ever since the advent of the cassette tapes and the disappearance of vinyl singles 30 years ago, "record" has overwhelmingly been used to refer to any vinyl recording. People are always talking about their "record collections" to refer to their vinyl LPs as well as singles.

Since I grew up post-vinyl, I didn't realize "record" had ever meant something more specific than a vinyl recording until this very issue came up a few years ago. I was listing on the "Fun Facts" page that "Hotel California" had won Record of the Year and got confused because as a Fleetwood Mac fan I thought "Rumours won that year!" I had to look it up and had my "ah-ha" moment that "record" = "single" in that context, lol.

It's funny that even though the guys were the ones that won the award, even they can get them mixed up occasionally!

MaryCalifornia
06-11-2013, 09:35 PM
I know I'm late to this, but I just watched Felder's interview with Jeff Probst. My observations:

- Jeff Probst seems to genuinely be an enthusiastic, legitimate Eagles fan. This is so nice, compared with some typical PR blitz interview with a TV talking head. Maybe this enthusiasm is just his typical interview style (never seen him before), but I like anyone who is truly interested in the Eagles, especially in a member who is not Glenn or Don (because the other members are more "obscure" [not to us, but to the general public], not household names.).

- Probst gave Felder so many opportunities to criticize Henley and Frey, and for the most part, Felder really didn't take the bait. I was surprised how diplomatic he was, and how complimentary.

- I don't know how old Kathrin is, but she looks about 25.

- I don't want to hear anyone except Don Henley sing Hotel California.

- Since reading in Felder's book that Glenn wrote in a letter, "Playing with the Eagles stresses me out" before setting out some conditions for them to continue to play together, I have been harboring a belief that the cosmos randomly threw together seven guys in the Eagles who are incredibly creatively talented and incredibly, super sensitive, with maybe a little OCD or other diagnoses at play. It is like the perfect storm of personalities where it would be nearly impossible to work together, but they have managed to stick it out. Felder sort of backed up my hypothesis in this interview when he mentions that the tensions primarily came from five guys who all write, sing, and play well and their problems stem from creative issues, not personalities. I think the Eagles would have all liked each personally if they weren't so consumed with the minutia of their music-making. It just exhausted them.

- Oooh I hope Henley and Frey and Schmit and Walsh write their own autobiographies at the appropriate time!!! Pleeeeeeeease!!!!

Love, Mary

Topkat
06-11-2013, 10:08 PM
Isn't a record and an album the same thing? Or by record does he mean the single? I've always called albums "records". :D

Yes it is but the award is called "Record of the Year" but it is for the one song, (I think) Now you have me confused.

"Album of the year" is another award which was won by Fleetwood Mac that year for Rumours, which beat out the Eagles who were also nominated.

sad-cafe
06-11-2013, 10:55 PM
like in the docu...Glenn told Joe " I get nuts, and I'm sorry"

I think they were just focused on being the best they could be and it overshadowed other things.

Felder has too thin of skin I think

TimothyBFan
06-12-2013, 08:21 AM
- Since reading in Felder's book that Glenn wrote in a letter, "Playing with the Eagles stresses me out" before setting out some conditions for them to continue to play together, I have been harboring a belief that the cosmos randomly threw together seven guys in the Eagles who are incredibly creatively talented and incredibly, super sensitive, with maybe a little OCD or other diagnoses at play. It is like the perfect storm of personalities where it would be nearly impossible to work together, but they have managed to stick it out. Felder sort of backed up my hypothesis in this interview when he mentions that the tensions primarily came from five guys who all write, sing, and play well and their problems stem from creative issues, not personalities. I think the Eagles would have all liked each personally if they weren't so consumed with the minutia of their music-making. It just exhausted them.

Very nicely said!! I think you're on to something here.


- Oooh I hope Henley and Frey and Schmit and Walsh write their own autobiographies at the appropriate time!!! Pleeeeeeeease!!!!

Love, Mary

From your mouth to God's ears!!! :hilarious: I certainly hope so also!!!

MaryCalifornia
06-12-2013, 08:26 AM
Sad Cafe - Exactly - I totally agree he has thin skin. I think these particular seven men ALL have thin skin, maybe more than your typical rock star, that is my point. They are all sensitive and touchy. Its not a bad thing, it comes with creative genius.

TimothyBFan
06-14-2013, 03:08 PM
This just showed up on Peter Frampton's FB. A lot of respect for Don by Peter!! How wonderful!!!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/912b3260-b17f-411f-a97c-f7d3492df1b0_zpsf31f1b5b.jpg

Troubadour
06-14-2013, 03:34 PM
Cool!

Turf
06-14-2013, 06:47 PM
Thanks TimothyBFan! Wish I could see that show... :depressed:

SilverMoon
06-14-2013, 11:00 PM
Awesome! Thank you, TimothyBFan!

Tiffanny Twisted
06-14-2013, 11:10 PM
Cool picture.thanks for posting

WalshFan88
06-15-2013, 12:07 AM
Thanks for posting!

Don is the man for sure...

sodascouts
06-15-2013, 06:50 PM
Very cool!

WalshFan88
06-17-2013, 03:49 AM
http://www.onstagemagazine.com/one-on-one-with-ex-eagles-guitarist-don-felder/

http://www.onstagemagazine.com/felder-part-2/

Great two part interview with Don.

pueblo47
06-17-2013, 07:08 AM
Yes it is, a really good interview. Hope he comes to TN, I'd sure go see him. Thanks for the link, WF.

SilverMoon
06-17-2013, 11:12 PM
Great interview! I really enjoyed reading it. I’m glad to hear that Don is working on a new album. :-D

Turf
06-18-2013, 03:37 AM
Great interview! I really enjoyed reading it. I’m glad to hear that Don is working on a new album. :-D

Definitely. Eddie Van Halen, that would be interesting...

WalshFan88
06-18-2013, 07:08 AM
Would be great if he could get Walsh to play on one... But seeing as Joe doesn't want to test the waters so to speak or upset anybody I doubt he does.

EVH would be interesting for sure.. I love Van Halen but I tend to prefer less technical guitar playing and more raw bluesy playing like Walsh, Felder being the exception to the rule for me.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-18-2013, 09:25 PM
Win a guitar and qualify for a free guitar lesson from Don himself. I don't want the man to laugh himself to death so I'll refrain from entering! :D

http://www.q1043.com/articles/q1043-news-457573/win-a-guitar--qualify-for-11403393/

VAisForEagleLovers
06-18-2013, 11:31 PM
Definitely. Eddie Van Halen, that would be interesting...

I'm a big fan of EVH, so that would be great.

Finally had time to read the article(s). It was a good read, and I'm glad I took the time to read it.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-19-2013, 03:41 PM
Video interview that Don did with Pittsburgh's Channel 11 before last Saturday's show.

http://www.wpxi.com/videos/news/former-eagles-guitarist-don-felder-talks-hotel/v4ftd/

Topkat
06-19-2013, 05:57 PM
Loved the interview. I will be seeing Don & Frampton next week!:thumbsup:

Turf
06-19-2013, 07:29 PM
Loved the interview. I will be seeing Don & Frampton next week!:thumbsup:

:jealous: :!::!::!: You'll have to let us know how it is!

Topkat
06-19-2013, 08:19 PM
Win a guitar and qualify for a free guitar lesson from Don himself. I don't want the man to laugh himself to death so I'll refrain from entering! :D

http://www.q1043.com/articles/q1043-news-457573/win-a-guitar--qualify-for-11403393/

What a cool contest...Who wouldn't want a guitar lesson from Don Felder? I would love to win that, but I can't play guitar for sh*t! He would get a good laugh out of me too! This would be a great thing for Austin to win! He would love this!!

SilverMoon
06-19-2013, 11:12 PM
Loved the interview. I will be seeing Don & Frampton next week!:thumbsup:
Wow, Topkat! That’s awesome! :-D You’re going to have a great time, I’m sure!

Topkat
06-20-2013, 11:40 AM
Wow, Topkat! That’s awesome! :-D You’re going to have a great time, I’m sure!

Thanks I will report on the show on Friday!

VAisForEagleLovers
06-20-2013, 11:13 PM
Another interview!

http://www.examiner.net/news/x1220217116/Film-company-to-show-footage-at-Third-Friday-Art-Walk#axzz2WofPoAyc

sodascouts
07-12-2013, 02:43 PM
Here's three more:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Hotel+California+become+both+blessing+curse+former +Eagles+guitarist+Felder/8505504/story.html

http://www.antimusic.com/news/13/June/20Don_Felder_Describes_The_Difficult_Road_to_Forev er.shtml

http://www.telegram.com/article/20130625/NEWS/106259974/1011/rss01&source=rss

VAisForEagleLovers
07-31-2013, 08:36 PM
An interview with Don:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/felder-is-still-striking-a-balance/Content?oid=2528740

Freypower
07-31-2013, 09:32 PM
An interview with Don:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/felder-is-still-striking-a-balance/Content?oid=2528740

How reassuring that he 'didn't live the lifestyle off stage' whatever that means. His book makes it clear that his marriage suffered & eventually broke down.

It's not his fault that the writer says that when he got into the limo the band broke up but it makes it sound as if it were his decision; it was not.

sad-cafe
08-02-2013, 02:58 PM
what a self promoting man


he says he never partied? Right...

sodascouts
08-02-2013, 03:04 PM
He says he was the only one married with children during HFO? What about Glenn and Tim? Even if he were talking about the old days, Randy had a wife and kids.

Topkat
08-02-2013, 04:01 PM
I think the interviewer has mixed the times up....In the early days he was the only one that was married, ( I mean after Randy left)
They all lived the livestyle. Felder admitted it in his book.
Someone can take a quote & then place it in the piece so it doesn't reference the time period he is referring to.

During HFO, they all had kids & they went their seperate ways after the show.

Freypower
08-02-2013, 05:56 PM
I took that statement to only mean the 70s as well but you are right - Randy was married too. It's all very well to say 'what it actually means is'....

sad-cafe
08-04-2013, 02:22 PM
I'm sorry

I dont' know why but I just get the "used car salesman vibe" when ever Felder tries to make himself come off better in every situation.

Topkat
08-10-2013, 08:50 AM
Came upon another recent Q & A with Don

http://illinoisentertainer.com/2013/08/q-and-a-don-felder-eagles-guitarist/

VAisForEagleLovers
08-13-2013, 12:18 PM
I’m very happy with it and happy with what I’m doing with my life right now. I don’t think from watching History Of The Eagles that everyone in the band still feels that way. I was somewhat taken back by how angry Glenn Frey still is. I don’t think that’s very healthy for him. I wish I could do something to help him get beyond that anger and release that and go on and be happy. It saddens me to see him still so bitter. I wish he wasn’t, if not for any other reason than just to have a peaceful parting.


Seriously? Who's the one who keeps talking about it? Over and over? Besides the fact it's been established that Glenn was acting out his original anger as opposed to what he still currently feels (other than an apparently lack of regret for doing what he felt needed to be done...), I don't see or hear Glenn bringing it up. I think he feels he did it and it's done, move on. I don't agree that Glenn is the one who is bitter. I think he's tired of getting continually 'poked' by statements like this and if he's bitter about anything, it's this.

That being said, it's not like Glenn emails me how he feels about things... (I wish!). It's all speculation on my part, and the fact that he doesn't publicly discuss it. He does talk about things he obviously cares about.

Topkat
08-13-2013, 04:13 PM
Seriously? Who's the one who keeps talking about it? Over and over? Besides the fact it's been established that Glenn was acting out his original anger as opposed to what he still currently feels (other than an apparently lack of regret for doing what he felt needed to be done...), I don't see or hear Glenn bringing it up. I think he feels he did it and it's done, move on. I don't agree that Glenn is the one who is bitter. I think he's tired of getting continually 'poked' by statements like this and if he's bitter about anything, it's this.

That being said, it's not like Glenn emails me how he feels about things... (I wish!). It's all speculation on my part, and the fact that he doesn't publicly discuss it. He does talk about things he obviously cares about.

Really, well, he is answering a question here, not "bringing it up". I'm sure he's tired of being asked the same questions over & over again! In the doc, whatever Glenn said, it was in an angry tone & he used foul language, which in my opinion was totally unnecessary & childish. If he was "acting out" his original anger, it just made him look foolish....It was totally unnecessary!

These questions will always be asked, that's a fact. No reporter or interviewer lets this thing get by....So may as well adress it in a decent way. I don't think Glenn was at his best in that interview, as well as when he talked about Randy & Bernie leaving the band. It was not Glenn's finest moment.

VAisForEagleLovers
08-13-2013, 09:58 PM
Really, well, he is answering a question here, not "bringing it up". I'm sure he's tired of being asked the same questions over & over again! In the doc, whatever Glenn said, it was in an angry tone & he used foul language, which in my opinion was totally unnecessary & childish. If he was "acting out" his original anger, it just made him look foolish....It was totally unnecessary!

These questions will always be asked, that's a fact. No reporter or interviewer lets this thing get by....So may as well adress it in a decent way. I don't think Glenn was at his best in that interview, as well as when he talked about Randy & Bernie leaving the band. It was not Glenn's finest moment.

TK, he can do what every other person who is interviewed does. Either not allow it in the 'pre-question/pre-interview' list or not answer it. You can bet that Henley and Glenn and Joe get asked about Felder, they just generally disallow the question before it's asked. Even sports stars after games in live interviews usually pass along what's off limits before the cameras begin to roll. If the question is asked anyway, that reporter generally never is granted another interview opportunity, and in the case of the Eagles, that could carry over to anyone managed by Irving if severe enough. Really, it's standard practice to have a pre-approved list of questions ahead of time, or if written, just don't print those not answered.

He did use an angry tone and rough language, probably because he did back when he actually said it. I guess I prefer that he didn't try to rewrite history or gloss over it, if he had, I'm sure there are plenty who would criticize him for that as well. To be clear, I didn't say that Glenn was perfect. I said he's not the one who keeps harping on the subject and so that it seems to me that he's not the bitter one.

I find it interesting that Felder refers to Glenn as 'bitter'. Generally someone is bitter when they are wronged and can't let go of it. "expressive of severe pain or grief".

secret squirrel
09-13-2013, 10:19 AM
Short article on Don Felder. Wasn't sure where to post it. Hope this will do.

http://www.app.com/article/20130913/NJENT/309130001/Former-Eagles-guitarist-Don-Felder-to-perform-in-Morristown?nclick_check=1

SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/schmitten-part-two-sweet-talking-guy_25.html

SilverMoon
09-13-2013, 02:53 PM
Thanks for posting that article, SS!

Topkat
09-13-2013, 08:32 PM
Don posted this on Facebook the other day


Just played a show last night in NYC for the Tuesday's Children charity. It benefits all the children of the victims of 9/11. The people that were in the two towers and the firemen and police that responded to the scene to save lives but gave their own. I met the children of many victims and got a first hand look at the devastation that was caused in their lives. It's really a wonderful charity and provides financial and psychological support for the children who lost so much. It was held in the financial building right next door to the site of 9/11. Very moving and made me proud to be able to help those children in some small way.
May God bless them all.

I thought that was really nice of him to play for the 911 families.

SilverMoon
09-14-2013, 12:40 AM
Yes, TK, it was really nice of him to play for such a worthy cause.

sodascouts
09-14-2013, 07:55 PM
Definitely. Don Felder often donates his talents to good causes. Very commendable.

SilverMoon
09-17-2013, 08:43 PM
Don was interviewed by John DeBella of Philadelphia’s Classic Rock 102.9 WMGK.

http://www.wmgk.com/shows/john-debella/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10587651

Heartattack
09-24-2013, 11:18 PM
Glenn Frey did not write one note of the music for Hotel California. Don Felder was on the Jeff Probst show and he asked him about it. Don's fiance Kathrin Nichoson was in the audience and she said that she has a copy of the original recording that Don F. made when he composed all of the guitar tracks in his home and it was nearly complete and identical to the finished record.

Freypower
09-24-2013, 11:28 PM
Glenn Frey did not write one note of the music for Hotel California. Don Felder was on the Jeff Probst show and he asked him about it. Don's fiance Kathrin Nichoson was in the audience and she said that she has a copy of the original recording that Don F. made when he composed all of the guitar tracks in his home and it was nearly complete and identical to the finished record.

Welcome.

The key word there is 'nearly'. I do not know which parts of Hotel California were written by Glenn Frey, but as I was not there, I think it is unwise to make such an unequivocal statement. In any case, there are other parts of the music beside the guitar tracks; the melody line & the chorus line.

NB: In an interview on Page Two of this thread, Felder says he originally wrote the music in a key that was too high for Henley, so that had to be changed. To me this is about Felder's absolute refusal to give Frey credit for anything at all. This is the relevant part: Felder originally wrote the music in a key that was too high for Henley -- "When he sang it the first time in the studio, he sounded like The Bee Gees," Felder recalled. So he went back home and worked out a darker-sounding version in B-minor, a key most guitarists prefer to avoid.

Glenn Frey himself stated in HOTE that he & Don Henley continued writing the song based on Felder's opening guitar progression. I think the truth must be somewhere between the two extremes.

UndertheWire
09-25-2013, 12:14 AM
In his book, Don Felder gives Glen Frey credit for conceptulizing "Hotel California" and that came between the writing of the music (Felder) and the lyrics (Henley). So regardless of whether Frey wrote a note, he did make a contribution to the song and that is why he has a songwriting credit.

Freypower
09-25-2013, 01:04 AM
If all he did was come up with the concept that would not entitle him to a songwriting credit, so he had to have written at least some of the lyrics (more likely)and OR some of the music (less likely but who is to say he did not)? The very next line in that interview I quoted above states that 'Henley & co-founder Glenn Frey wrote the lyrics' although this is by the author, not Felder.

The irony of all this is that most people associate Frey with the writing of Eagles music, because of the Lone Arranger tag, and especially because he doesn't sing this song they can't seem to acknowledge the fact that he could have written some of these lyrics.

I just wish Felder's fans could accept Felder's role in the writing of this song without automatically denigrating Frey's role in it. But they take their cue from Felder himself.

VAisForEagleLovers
09-25-2013, 07:57 AM
In an interview after the Probst show, and on this board somewhere, Felder clarified the songwriting further, and he also clarified what he actually gave Don and Glenn, and it wasn't a fully written song without lyrics. He also clarified how the dueling guitar solos between he and Joe came to be. It was an interesting read. I'm already late for work or I'd hunt it up. It gave a lot of perspective on how they created the music we all love.

Freypower
09-25-2013, 06:17 PM
I think this is it:

http://wcbe.org/post/conversation-musician-don-felder

or this:

http://www.vintagerock.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1490%3Athe-don-felder-interview&catid=3%3Ainterviews&Itemid=4

...where Hotel California is 'going to be the single'. Yes, it was a single. Eventually. :unimpressed:

UndertheWire
09-25-2013, 07:29 PM
I think this is it:

http://wcbe.org/post/conversation-musician-don-felder

or this:

http://www.vintagerock.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1490%3Athe-don-felder-interview&catid=3%3Ainterviews&Itemid=4

...where Hotel California is 'going to be the single'. Yes, it was a single. Eventually. :unimpressed:
Thanks for the links. By Don F's own admission, the cassette did not contain the melody and therefore by implication, Henley/Frey provided the vocal melody. Good to have that established.

I'm not convinced that Don F deliberately misleads or tries to put Glenn down just that he's incredibly tactless. For example, I was listening to an interview with Don F and Glenn from 1979 (together and seemingly friendly) and Don said that before he joined, the band didn't have anyone who could play R&R guitar. I bet Glenn loved hearing that!

chaim
09-29-2013, 02:23 PM
For some bizarre reason - that I will never know - people don't usually seem to think of the vocal melody as part of the "music" in popular music when it was added later. Don F has said many times that he wrote "all the music" to HC. If he didn't write the melodies, he certainly did not write "all the music". The vocal melody in HC doesn't have that many notes either in the verse or the chorus, but it's still a melody, and melody is music.
The vocal melodies in Stairway To Heaven were, according to Jimmy Page, written by Plant over Page's chord progressions. Is there someone on this planet who thinks that the vocal melodies are not part of the "music" in Stairway To Heaven? No, didn't think so...

sodascouts
09-29-2013, 03:11 PM
Indeed, when most people think about the tune of a song, the vocal melody is typically what they think of. If you ask someone "Hum a song" the vast majority will hum the vocal melody of whatever song they pick.

sodascouts
11-02-2013, 11:11 PM
This is older but I just saw it:

http://www.goerie.com/article/20131010/ENTERTAINMENT0301/310109985/Don-Felder-plays-Eagles%27-hits-at-Seneca-Allegany

This one includes a video:
http://somethingelsereviews.com/2013/10/28/who-can-sing-any-song-better-than-don-henley-inside-the-convoluted-vocal-track-for-the-eagles-victim-of-love/

SilverMoon
11-04-2013, 02:07 AM
Thanks for posting, Soda!