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sodascouts
09-03-2006, 02:44 AM
We've all read the articles where Glenn talks about following a girlfriend out to LA, hooking up with her, and being introduced through her to JD Souther who was dating her sister. Well, I found this article (http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/honeyltd.html) about those ladies, Joan and Alex Sliwin! Apparently the two sisters as well as a couple other girls had a band in Detroit and the Mushrooms were their backup band. Reading this article, though, Joan makes no reference to any romance with Glenn. From this, it seems like she simply knew him from Detroit, so when he came to LA she let him crash at her place before he got one of his own. She also says he was running from a draft notice - I'd never heard that before!

And then, of course, she introduced him to her sister's new boyfriend... and the rest is history. I'm betting that these girls were the "Alexandra / Joan Claudia" thanked on the Longbranch Pennywhistle album for their "Inspirationticipation."

Just found it a cool little piece of context. :) FYI - in the photo - Joan is the girl with the long dark hair, second from the right. The girl next to her with the long blonde hair is her sister Alex, JD's girlfriend.


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Molly
09-03-2006, 10:57 AM
I've seen this article before, soda. It's interesting isn't it?

I believe Glenn has produced some of the Laura mentioned in the article's work. (Laura Creamer)

Now I need to re-watch San Diego. I've seen recent pictures of Laura, (during a late night Google fest, no doubt), and I'm thinking that she's one of the back-up singers on the SD video. During introductions, Glenn does mention that one of them is from Detroit and sang back-up with him on Ramblin' Gamblin' Man but right now I can't remember the girl's names.

Molly
09-03-2006, 01:13 PM
I listened to the band intros on San Diego again. The brunette backup singer's name is Laura -different last name. Could have been a previous married name, I suppose.

sodascouts
09-03-2006, 02:09 PM
It is the same lady after all! When I was compiling my tour pages, I looked up all of the backing band to make sure I spelled their names right. I looked her up and found out that she at one time went by Laura Creamer-Dunville. But it looks like she might have lost Mr. Dunville, as she's back to Laura Creamer according to her official site (http://www.lauracreamer.com/).


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glenneaglesfan
09-03-2006, 02:31 PM
That's an interesting find, Nancy. I didn't realise JD had actually married his girlfriend - my impression was that things had fizzled out with the sisters pretty quickly once the two guys formed their band. I can't imagine that young GF crashing at a pad with four girls could have been entirely platonic!


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sodascouts
09-03-2006, 03:28 PM
I was surprised by that too, Kate. Apparently it wasn't until after Longbranch Pennywhistle was recorded that the two guys started living together sans the sisters.


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Molly
09-03-2006, 04:08 PM
Too bad the camera isn't on Laura when Glenn tells his "What do you call a musician without a girlfriend...homeless" joke during SD. Laura is probably nodding in agreement!

Freypower
09-03-2006, 08:49 PM
That's very interesting.

The other backup singer in San Diego is Rosemary Butler, who did a lot of work for Jackson Browne and other country rock mafia people (it's her singing a verse on Stay).

DonFan
09-03-2006, 10:43 PM
Thanks for posting that article, Nancy. I had never read it before. It is always interesting to me to read the backstories and biographies of the people who influenced the Eagles in any way.

Ive always been a dreamer
09-04-2006, 11:16 PM
Yeah - this is some pretty interesting stuff, even though it is fairly vague on some of the facts. I have read and even heard Glenn say on several occasions that he came to L.A. after a girlfriend. So even if Joan didn't consider Glenn to be her boyfriend, apparently he didn't agree.;) If I remember correctly, I don't think they dated very long after he arrived.

As far as Glenn dodging the draft - apparentedly, he did. However, from all accounts, he did it legally. The change of residence apparently was a necessary, albeit convenient loophole. I remember this being discussed on Eagleland,so I included the link.

eaglesfans.sonicdns2.net/...php?t=5210 (http://eaglesfans.sonicdns2.net/viewtopic.php?t=5210)


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glenneaglesfan
09-05-2006, 04:20 AM
Yes, thanks for the link, Kay. I particularly enjoyed reading that interview with Glenn. I wonder if he ever will write his book?


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sodascouts
09-05-2006, 02:53 PM
I wondered the same thing Kate - and then I remembered what happened when Felder wanted to write a book, lol. I guess it was just a joke.


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Freypower
09-05-2006, 09:16 PM
I'm not sure that it was a joke. He has mentioned it on several occasions.

sodascouts
09-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Really! Well, I certainly hope he was serious. That would sure be an interesting read. Wonder if he'd call it "Big Life"? ;)


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Ive always been a dreamer
09-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Interesting read it would be, indeed. I think it should be titled "Happy, Bitchin', Lazy Life." :D


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sodascouts
07-27-2010, 10:47 PM
Just reviving this ancient thread because I got a Google alert that these ladies still perform to this day - in this case, at Delay's Old Time Rock'n'Roll Concert (http://www.prlog.org/10808355-old-time-rock-roll-concert-at-unity-of-delray-beach-aug-8.html) on Aug. 8. They now call themselves "Like Honey."

Ive always been a dreamer
08-01-2010, 10:58 PM
It's funny that when they first came out to L.A., it seemed as if the Sliwin sisters were going to be the successful ones. Hmmm - Often wondered if Joan wishes she had hung out with Glenn a little longer - might have made a difference in her career - you never know. :wink:

duster11
08-09-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm a big fan of the 1971 movie Vanishing Point which has a Longbranch/Pennywhistle song in the movie but not on the sountrack. There is also a song which does appear on the soundtrack by a female band named Eve. Before Eve they were called Honey Ltd. and included both of the Sliwin sisters. Both bands put out 1 album and I was able to find a torrent containing both. There's a few vids on Youtube here:

Honey Ltd.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwF7H4L6b3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDN9yI49NrQ

Eve: (Alex left to marry JD Souther):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2iBxS4axGk

Brooke
08-09-2010, 04:22 PM
Interesting! Their sound definitely takes you back in a time warp!

Thanks d11!

sodascouts
08-09-2010, 11:01 PM
Ooh, cool! Thanks duster!

I actually bought Vanishing Point just to hear the Longbranch Pennywhistle snippet. Not my kind of movie - I think it's more of a guy's flick - but worth it for that little bit of song! I never realized Eve was in there, too.

Too bad about Alex leaving the group to marry Souther only to have the marriage fall apart in a pretty short time.