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thelongrun
01-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Hey all! I was downloading one of my fav Songs, Eric Clapton - It's in the way that you use it (In those Days I liked to think of me as Cruise, these Days- I'm into Newman's part LOL:shh: )... and came to me the idea of Sir Eric... Is he? I know we have Sir Elton, Sir Paul, Sir John Lennon right? How many are already? Are Harrison, Starkey, Clapton, Page, Gilmour, Mercury, May in the Club?

And main: In the USA, What should they name Don, Joe, Glenn?
Chiefs?:jealous:

EagleLady
01-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Um How about Bedwarmers? :twisted:

Freypower
01-27-2009, 10:53 PM
Hey all! I was downloading one of my fav Songs, Eric Clapton - It's in the way that you use it (In those Days I liked to think of me as Cruise, these Days- I'm into Newman's part LOL:shh: )... and came to me the idea of Sir Eric... Is he? I know we have Sir Elton, Sir Paul, Sir John Lennon right? How many are already? Are Harrison, Starkey, Clapton, Page, Gilmour, Mercury, May in the Club?

And main: In the USA, What should they name Don, Joe, Glenn?
Chiefs?:jealous:

Eric has a CBE. He isn't knighted and the late John Lennon and George Harrison were not knighted. I believe Brian May has a CBE, the same as Robert Plant, who was given one this year. Mick Jagger has a knighthood. Gilmour has a CBE. Sting has a CBE. Jimmy Page has an OBE. Bono, who is an Irish citizen, has an honorary knighthood. A lot of British rock stars tend to be given honorary degrees from universities in lieu of being given 'honours'. Mark Knopfler has one from the University of Sunderland and I think Page has one from Sussex.

Perhaps someone from the United States could fill us in on anything the Eagles could be awarded. I know that Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend were recent recipients of Kennedy Centre honours.

Littlemelly9
01-28-2009, 07:22 AM
Um How about Bedwarmers? :twisted:


ooh EL thats a good one hehe:rofl:

EagleLady
01-28-2009, 09:24 AM
:lol: Thanks Mel I thought so too ;)

TimothyBFan
01-28-2009, 09:42 AM
FP--I'm slow :) Can you tell me what all those initials mean? This is a really interesting topic to me. I would love to hear more.

Peekaboo
01-28-2009, 11:18 AM
FP--I'm slow :) Can you tell me what all those initials mean? This is a really interesting topic to me. I would love to hear more.

You read my mind :confused: :headscratch:. I was thinking the same thing.

Ive always been a dreamer
01-28-2009, 06:44 PM
I'm not familiar with all those terms that FP mentioned either. However, I do know that we have no equivalent of British knighthood here in the U.S. since we do not have a royal family. We do have various citizenship and honorary awards and medals that can be presented by Congress or the President, but none of these are accompanied by a title such as "sir" or "dame".

Freypower
01-28-2009, 07:30 PM
I should have spelt it out in detail.

There are several grades of knighthoods. The most basic one, which rock stars would be given, is KB, Knight Bachelor. There are also various orders of knighthood, such as the Garter, Bath and Thistle (for Scotland). If you are a knight or a dame you are 'sir' or 'dame' as Dreamer said.

For our purposes after knighthoods comes CBE (Commander of the British Empire), OBE (Order of the British Empire) and MBE (Member of the Order of the British Empire). The Beatles were given MBES, and that is what Ringo Starr is. You can't 'call' yourself anything with these honours. You just have the letters after your name and the ribbon or medal designating the honour.

TimothyBFan
01-29-2009, 09:32 AM
Thanks FP--very interesting stuff. I wonder if there is a list somewhere of all those honours and who has received them.


This is a great topic in my opinion, very interesting. Thanks tlr, for bringing it up.

Freypower
01-29-2009, 07:56 PM
This isn't a bad link, although when I clicked on current Knights of the Garter it still lists the late Sir Edward Heath.

http://everything2.com/e2node/British%2520Honours%2520System (http://everything2.com/e2node/British%2520Honours%2520System)

Where you would go to find out a list of everyone who has ever received a 'gong' as they are called, I'm not sure. But I have found a link on the UK Honours site. This goes back to 2003.

http://www.honours.gov.uk/lists.aspx

If anyone wonders why I know a bit about this when I'm not even British, I've been a huge British history fan since the age of about 7. So you pick it up.

thelongrun
01-29-2009, 07:56 PM
I should have spelt it out in detail.

There are several grades of knighthoods. The most basic one, which rock stars would be given, is KB, Knight Bachelor. There are also various orders of knighthood, such as the Garter, Bath and Thistle (for Scotland). If you are a knight or a dame you are 'sir' or 'dame' as Dreamer said.

For our purposes after knighthoods comes CBE (Commander of the British Empire), OBE (Order of the British Empire) and MBE (Member of the Order of the British Empire). The Beatles were given MBES, and that is what Ringo Starr is. You can't 'call' yourself anything with these honours. You just have the letters after your name and the ribbon or medal designating the honour.

Thanks Freypower...:computer: Yo Dreamer, So what could be in the States?
The Congressional Gold Medal and Presidential Medal of Freedom I guess... And (Proudly) Navajo Chiefs!

Freypower
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
I don't want to be picky here, but can non-native Americans be made honorary chiefs, and how likely is it?

Have any rock stars ever received the Presidential Medal of Freedom? I know Don got something from Clinton but I very much doubt it was that.

Bush just gave that medal to Tony Blair and our own wonderful former Prime Minster, J.W. Howard, and I will make no comment on what I thought about it.

Prettymaid
01-29-2009, 08:02 PM
Maybe in the U.S they could be pardners... as in "Howdy Pardner".

(Just trying to stay with the American western theme that Long Run seems to be looking for!)

TimothyBFan
01-30-2009, 11:41 AM
:rofl: I'm sorry, but that is just funny!!!

Prettymaid
01-30-2009, 01:26 PM
"Howdy there, Pardner Frey, have ya seen Pardner Walsh around?"

:grin:

EagleLady
01-30-2009, 01:27 PM
:lol:

thelongrun
01-30-2009, 02:22 PM
Maybe in the U.S they could be pardners... as in "Howdy Pardner".

(Just trying to stay with the American western theme that Long Run seems to be looking for!)

Not exactly, I just couldn't find another figure in the States, to compare with Europe Royal... degrees, I mentioned Congress Medals but stiil, those doesn't quit match IMO, so the only thing I could think to compare was the Indians.... status culture such as Chief... I underline: I do this with all respect...


Actually they are not only neighbors but also natives from my Home State (in the case of the Navajo, Papago, Apache, Pima people among others), I mean they are all over both States, South USA's Arizona and North Mexico's Sonora... Great people that...

Actually, Did you knew they are the only... racial groups that can cross the USA-Mexico Border, both ways, without showing one single paper? They were the Lord of these lands in Ancient times, I guess we owe them that...

Anyways... What I meant is how cool could be to be named Honorary Chief (Since Sirs do not exist there).

Ive always been a dreamer
01-30-2009, 02:34 PM
Thanks Freypower...:computer: Yo Dreamer, So what could be in the States?
The Congressional Gold Medal and Presidential Medal of Freedom I guess... And (Proudly) Navajo Chiefs!

Yeah tlr - the two awards that I am most familiar with in the U.S. are the Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Since I believe the Medal of Honor is reserved for those who have served the country in military service, I guess that the only thing that the guys could qualify for is the Medal of Freedom. Here's a link I found about it:

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/

But even if they were to be awarded this - still no title! :)

EagleLady
01-30-2009, 02:35 PM
I've already revealed my title for the guys :twisted:

thelongrun
01-30-2009, 05:13 PM
Good old Wilki has some list too, cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Congressional_Gold_Medal_recipients

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients

From Music Frank Sinatra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra), Harry Chapin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Chapin) Duke Ellington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Ellington) Ella Fitzgerald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Fitzgerald) Aretha Franklin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aretha_Franklin) B. B. King (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._B._King)

By the way, Guess Who are there also?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Code_Talker

World War Heroes people, Nothing less...:wave:

Just Another Hired Hand
02-07-2009, 03:30 PM
Eric Clapton - It's in the way that you use it (In those Days I liked to think of me as Cruise, these Days- I'm into Newman's part LOL:shh: )... and came to me the idea of Sir Eric... Is he?

I was just surfing the Border and I came upon your post...Eric Clapton is not "Sir Eric". He does, however, hold a royal title. He is dubbed by the queen as a "Commander of the British Empire", one of the titles previously listed by Freypower. There is a picture of Eric the night he recived the award in the unauthorized biography "Edge of Darkness."

I think it is a throw back to the days when he had a serious substance abuse problem. With all of the work he has done and money he has raised to help others overcome substance abuse problems I think the crown should reconsider.

thelongrun
02-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Thanks!:band: