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DonFan
08-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Saturday night a friend & I saw Journey in concert. I don't know if you have heard about their new lead singer, Arnel Pineda, but it is a great story. After unsuccessfully trying to replace former lead singer Steve Perry for many years, one of the band members came across a youtube video of Pineda covering Journey in his band, The Zoo, and was so impressed with his vocals that they contacted him about joining the band. Pineda was raised in poverty in Manila after the death of his mother, who inspires his music to this day. He is 40 but he jumps around the stage like he is in his 20s. He does sound JUST like Steve Perry. The band put on a great show, singing hits like Faithfully, Wheel in the Sky, and Don't Stop Believing, a song that Pineda said is his theme song. ALmost 10,000 people attended the concert here, including a number of proud Filipinos like the girl seated next to us who waved a Filipino flag throughout the show (making me feel a little bit like I was at the Olympics).

Oh--and then I ran across this little tidbit in the newspaper article about Journey, which said "the decision to sell their new CD, Revelation, only via Walmart was suggested by manager Irving Azoff, who also handles the Eagles."

If you want to hear a little more of the story, including what Pineda sounds like, here is a clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcOZV5VIAZ0&feature=related

TimothyBFan
08-11-2008, 12:25 PM
A friend of mine who has always been a huge Journey fan, was just telling me about this story Saturday night. Arnel really is amazing and sounds like Steve. I will probably buy the cd because I have always liked their music also but I will also admit that I really will miss Steve Perry. It just seems that he was the sound of Journey but maybe this new guy can make believers of me and other hardcore fans after all.

Maleah
08-11-2008, 03:56 PM
I liked Journey but never really cared one way or another about them........BUT.......when the new cd released Walmart kept playing "Open Arms" over and over and OVER again and I absolutely fell in love with Arnel's voice! And you can tell how happy he is and excited he gets about the music! The cd is great!

Brooke
08-11-2008, 04:41 PM
I really loved all of Journey's hits with Steve Perry and never really cared about them without him, but I heard about the new guy on a news show and he sounds really good.

I'm glad you enjoyed the concert DF! Sounds like it may work for them. :D

Mrs Henley
08-11-2008, 04:42 PM
Glad you enjoyed DF! :D

I think I have to find some Journey songs!

Glennsallnighter
08-11-2008, 05:34 PM
I'm not familiar with Journey but after this review will have to acquaint myself. Any suggestions for an album I couold start with? The new one?

Mrs Henley
08-11-2008, 06:40 PM
I'm not familiar with Journey but after this review will have to acquaint myself. Any suggestions for an album I couold start with? The new one?

Me neither GA! Think that it would be indeed a great idea to have a couple of albums! :)

The_Girl_Of_Summer
08-11-2008, 11:29 PM
I havent seen Journey since he joined but I might soon.

The last time i saw them they were on tour with Def Leppard and they were ok but I'm really thinking about it now thanks to your review DF. Thanks!

DonFan
08-11-2008, 11:38 PM
You should all go see them. What can I say--Irving definitely knows talent!

I haven't gone to Walmart lately to pick up their new CD, but I did buy the Journey Greatest Hits CD in the new "environmentally friendly paper packaging" and it is very good.

Brooke
08-12-2008, 09:50 AM
I have their Greatest Hits, too. It has most all of their best songs. Check it out on Amazon. Steve Perry's voice is probably one of the most beautiful voices in rock. IMO!

I love Open Arms, Faithfully and Wheel In The Sky especially. :D

Molly
08-12-2008, 07:03 PM
I was a huge Journey fan back in the day and love Steve Perry's voice, so I was really skeptical when we saw them a few years ago. But, DF is right, Pineda is amazing! He even resembles Steve Perry! I'd go see them again, if I get the chance.

A couple of weeks ago we saw the double bill Styx and Boston at our local fair. Styx has a sound-a-like Dennis DeYoung and Boston has a sound-a-like Brad Delp (which was a little creepy-Brad committed suicide last year). Both bands were very, very good. The only original member of Boston dedicated the show to Brad and said they feel like he's up there with them every night, which was a nice moment.

The bands drew 45,000 people to our little country fair that evening. That's twice as many people as live in our little town!

TimothyBFan
08-13-2008, 06:23 AM
Is Tommy Shaw still with Styx? He's from close to here and I remember several people back in high school pretty much "stalking" him and his family when they were 1st getting famous back in the 70's. Sounds like your little town was a bit over crowded for awhile!! How exciting that probably was!

glenneaglesfan
08-14-2008, 03:43 AM
That's interesting that you went to see Boston, Molly, because when I read DonFan's account of the Journey concert, I remembered reading about Boston's new lead singer, Tommy DeCarlo, in our paper a couple of months ago. Here's the story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2092195/Shop-worker-lands-job-as-Boston-lead-singer.html

Maleah
08-17-2008, 08:59 PM
We saw Boston a month or so ago, and while they were very good....they only sang for about 45 minutes to an hour with no encore! People were NOT happy!

rickmullen
09-08-2008, 11:53 PM
I saw Journey last month at the Sommet Center in Nashville,TN and they
were great. Everything good you hear about Arnel is true. He is awesome.
Cheap Trick opened for them and they were quite good, too. The Sommet
Center is where I will be seeing our Eagles also on the 18th of this month.
We also saw Bruce Springsteen at the Sommet about 2 weeks ago. It's
been a good string of concerts in Nashville lately. Which is great for me
since I only leave about 2 hours away from Nashville here in western
Kentucky.

Rick

ticky
09-09-2008, 12:49 AM
My Parents were coming home from the San Juan Islands and stopped in a little town just south of Seattle for Lunch (this was in 1980 or there abouts.. just before I graduated from highschool). They said there were two big buses in the parking lot and a lot of long haired young men in the restaurant. They said one young man with dark hair opened the door for them and said Hi. Mom said he was very nice and handsome. When I asked them if they buses said anything she said it was something like Voyage or Escapade or something.. I thought and said "JOURNEY?????????" Mom said "THAT was it!, Do you know them?" I cried (I loved Steve Perry). I did see them the following year at Oregon Jam '81 (was that 81 Wild? I think so) with Loverboy, Joan Jet and Blue Oyster Cult, but Steve Perry didnt open any doors for me.

TimothyBFan
09-09-2008, 08:26 AM
Cute story Ticky!

sodascouts
09-09-2008, 01:11 PM
Rick - glad you enjoyed the Journey show. Sounds like you're a big fan!

ticky - "Voyage" or "Escapade" - lol! Funny story.

DonFan
09-09-2008, 04:03 PM
Ticky--Voyage, Journey--whatever! So funny!

Rick, I like the Sommet Center too. I was there last fall to see the Eagles at the CMAs. It is a really nice venue.

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:13 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation059.jpg

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:14 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation012.jpg

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:15 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation060.jpg

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:15 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation070.jpg

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:18 PM
These were just a few shots we took from the Journey/Cheap Trick
concert about a month ago at the Sommet Center in Nashville.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation077.jpg

rickmullen
09-09-2008, 11:32 PM
This was on the big screen after they played "Don't Stop Believin' ",
with the gun replacing the "r" in Journey ala "The Sopranos" logo.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/JourneyandVacation035.jpg

Freypower
09-09-2008, 11:32 PM
Those are excellent photos, thanks for sharing with us.

ticky
09-09-2008, 11:51 PM
Great Pics Rick! Thanks!! It looks like a terrific show!

Glennsallnighter
09-10-2008, 04:41 AM
Yes They really are a lovely set of pic Rick. Very clear too. Well done, and welcome!

TimothyBFan
09-10-2008, 07:54 AM
Nice pics Rick--Thanks!! Did you get any of Cheap Trick? I'm assuming all the same guys there right? Wondering what Robin looks like now. I'm sure Rick & Bun E Carlos haven't changed much.

Brooke
09-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Thanks Rick! Those are great shots! I'd love to see some of Cheap Trick, too, if you have them.

The new lead singer actually reminds me a bit of young Steve Perry.

Ive always been a dreamer
09-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Thanks for those great pictures, Rick. You know I had always been one of those that said "Why would I ever go to see Journey without Steve Perry?" But, I think you all may have convinced me that it is worth it. This new young guy is awesome, and I agree that he looks and sounds very much like a young Steve Perry. I don't think they could have done a better job finding a replacement. Now, I have to hope they come my way again. They have played three venues this year within 2 hours of my home, but I didn't go because I said "Why would I ever go to see Journey without Steve Perry?" Now. I have to cross my fingers and wait to see what their plans are for next year. :brickwall:

rickmullen
09-11-2008, 12:47 AM
OK, boys and girls, ask and ye shall receive.

Ladies and gentleman, I give you Cheap Trick!

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney030.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney035.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney029.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney018.jpg

rickmullen
09-11-2008, 12:51 AM
I got a kick out of seeing guitarist Rick Nielson's collection of custom
made guitars. This guy is a hoot!

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney026.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney011.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney031.jpg

rickmullen
09-11-2008, 12:53 AM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/CheapTrickandJourney037.jpg

ticky
09-11-2008, 02:01 AM
Those are great Rick! You;re right, the custom guitars are a riot! and he can PLAY em all!!

TimothyBFan
09-11-2008, 08:33 AM
Rick-thanks so much for posting those. Wow- Robin Zander looks like he's gained a bit a weight and the hairs thinned a bit on top but looking pretty good. Tom Petersson is looking great and it looks as if Rick Nielson and Bun E Carlos haven't changed much at all over the years. They all aged very well!

A little personal story about these guys. When I was in high school, a friend of mine had 2 older brothers that had gone to school in Rockford Illinois with Tom, Rick and Bun E. When they came close to our little hometown for a concert, they got a bunch of us all backstage to meet them. Rick was a crack up and I remember very well being just awestruck by Tom and Robin. Of course I'm sure I made a complete idiot of myself by staring and drooling over them (hey-I was 14 or 15 and the were Rock Gods!) but it was something I will always remember and they were really great guys and treated us all so nicely. :)

Brooke
09-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Thanks so much Rick! Those are great. The guitars are something else!

I saw Cheap Trick with Def Leppard a few years ago and both were fantastic. :nod:

Ive always been a dreamer
09-11-2008, 12:49 PM
Thanks again for the fantastic pics, Rick. I think the guys in both Journey and Cheap Trick have aged well.

And that is a very cool story tbf. It is so cool when you get to meet these guys and realize they are normal people just like us (well almost). :D

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 03:41 PM
I thought I'd post a few pics of the Journey and Heart concert we went
to on August 21st at Freedom Hall in Louisville,Ky. If you like Journey
music at all, I recommend seeing them with their new lead singer, Arnel
Pineda. I was always a Steve Perry fan, but this guy certainly can fill his
shoes. I think he's 41 years old, but he jumps and runs around that stage
like he's 21. The rest of the band sounds as good as ever, too.

Rick

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 03:45 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009046.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 03:59 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009083.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:01 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009039.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:01 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009047.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:03 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009050.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:03 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009048.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:04 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009051.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:05 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009052.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:07 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009057.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:16 PM
I was able to "acquire" a copy of the setlist from the band and as you
can see you get to hear all their great songs, plus a few off their new
CD released last year.

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:17 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009128.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:18 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009089.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:19 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009123.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:20 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009124.jpg

EagleLady
09-02-2009, 04:25 PM
Wow, those are nice pics Rick, That guy is way short though

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:29 PM
By the way, Heart was also outstanding as the opening act. Ann and
Nancy Wilson still sound great and got the joint jumpin' right off the bat.

We didn't get any good pics of them, security was going nuts seizing
cameras and telling people to "put them away" at the beginning of the show.

But I did get a pic of their setlist for you to see.

EagleLady
09-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Ahhh those Camera Nazis :-x

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:32 PM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z206/rickmullen/HeartandJourneyinLouisville2009017.jpg

rickmullen
09-02-2009, 04:37 PM
In addition to Heart's great songs, it was great to hear their versions
of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Led Zep's "Going to California".

I loved them both.

Rick

Brooke
09-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Cool Rick! Thanks for sharing those!

41, huh? He looks, maybe, 25! :shock:

TimothyBFan
09-03-2009, 07:23 AM
Great pics Rick! Love both of those bands, probably Heart a little more and have seen them also. They do put on a heck of a show don't they? Glad it was a great concert for you.

Prettymaid
09-03-2009, 07:45 AM
We came so close to going to the state fair after all with my BIL and SIL to see Heart and The Bangles, but there were no good seats left. Instead the four of us had a cookout on the new deck and enjoyed a mini concert of songs from both bands that I had put together into a playlist. It turned out to be a great evening!

Brooke
09-03-2009, 09:59 AM
We came so close to going to the state fair after all with my BIL and SIL to see Heart and The Bangles, but there were no good seats left. Instead the four of us had a cookout on the new deck and enjoyed a mini concert of songs from both bands that I had put together into a playlist. It turned out to be a great evening!

I wanted to go to see that soooooo bad, but my husband had to work. His boss did go and said it was fantastic!

Btw, back on topic....Journey was on CBS Morning Show this morning! I recorded it, so will watch it later.

rickmullen
09-03-2009, 12:24 PM
You can catch "Any Way You Want It", "Separate Ways", and
"Never Walk Away" on The Early Show's website.



http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5284717n&tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel

Ive always been a dreamer
09-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Rick - I looked at all your pics yesterday and they inspired me to check out Journey's remaining tour schedule. And guess what - they are coming to my hometown (Richmond, VA) on 9/15. Now I have always liked the band a lot and wanted to see them live. However, after Steve Perry left, I couldn't imagine seeing them without Steve Perry - no way! But after seeing clips of Arnel, I think this guy is an amazing replacement. I honestly never thought anyone could fill Steve's shoes, but he seems to have nailed it. Plus, even though the voice of Steve Perry is what defined the band for many people, Jonathan Cain and Neal Schon are not too shabby songwriters in their own right, and a major part of the band's success.

So the bottom line is your post and pictures inspired me and I think I'm gonna get tickets to see them. Plus the ticket prices are fairly reasonable. My only disappointment is that the opening act for the Richmond show is Night Ranger. I would waayyyyy much rather see Heart who I also like a bunch.

lynnzop
09-03-2009, 04:36 PM
I saw Heart, Journey and Cheap Trick last summer.

Heart was amazing. Ann and Nancy have still got all the range and great guitar playing that they always did. I would see them again in a heartbeat (pun intended ;))

Journey not so much. Yes, Arnel sounds like Steve Perry, but he's not. And Steve Perry (IMHO) is what made Journey who they were. Arnel is VERY energetic on stage, but I found it really distracting.

rickmullen
09-03-2009, 07:11 PM
Rick - I looked at all your pics yesterday and they inspired me to check out Journey's remaining tour schedule. And guess what - they are coming to my hometown (Richmond, VA) on 9/15. Now I have always liked the band a lot and wanted to see them live. However, after Steve Perry left, I couldn't imagine seeing them without Steve Perry - no way! But after seeing clips of Arnel, I think this guy is an amazing replacement. I honestly never thought anyone could fill Steve's shoes, but he seems to have nailed it. Plus, even though the voice of Steve Perry is what defined the band for many people, Jonathan Cain and Neal Schon are not too shabby songwriters in their own right, and a major part of the band's success.

So the bottom line is your post and pictures inspired me and I think I'm gonna get tickets to see them. Plus the ticket prices are fairly reasonable. My only disappointment is that the opening act for the Richmond show is Night Ranger. I would waayyyyy much rather see Heart who I also like a bunch.


Great! I hope you are able to get some tickets and go. I know you will
not be disappointed. Despite the above post, I don't think they could
have gotten a better fit for a lead singer. He is outstanding!

Rick

TimothyBFan
09-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Welcome Lynnzop! I agree completely about Heart and pretty much about Journey. I love Steve Perry and believe Journey isn't Journey without him. I have seen the "new guy" and think he is extremely talented tho. But I'm afraid I don't want to see them without Steve. JMO

Ive always been a dreamer
09-04-2009, 07:30 PM
Welcome from me too, Lynnzop. As I said earlier, I used to feel exactly the same way - no Steve Perry, no Journey for me. However, I have been checking it out, and the overall response to Arnel has been super-positive. It seems the band's popularity has soared since he joined. I never thought I'd say this, but I think I'm gonna go see for myself. :wink:

Brooke
09-04-2009, 09:59 PM
I'm kind of the same way, no Steve Perry no Journey for me either. But this guy is looking and sounding pretty good! I could be convinced to give them a shot now!

rickmullen
09-05-2009, 12:16 AM
I told you guys, I used to feel the same way.....Steve Perry WAS Journey.

It wasn't until after I saw AND heard Arnel Live from row 5 that I was
convinced he is a very talented guy. I've actually paid to see them
twice in the last 13 months. Go see them in person. Tickets are reasonable.

Rick

lynnzop
09-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Thanks for the welcome...long time lurker, just getting around to posting.

Hopefully I didn't put anyone off on going to see Journey by my post! I did enjoy the show, and Arnel really does sound like Steve, and he's very talented.

He's just *not* Steve Perry...and while I knew I wouldn't be seeing Steve, deep down underneath, that's what I expected when I went to the concert. If you want to hear the band's music and a good representation of Steve's voice, you'll be satisfied.

Ive always been a dreamer
09-17-2009, 12:39 AM
Well, unfortunately, I didn't make it to the Journey show last night. My friend that was going with me was unable to make it, and since I'm not a hardcore, I didn't really want to go it alone. I am a bit disappointed though because I figure that I probably won't get another opportunity to see them play right here in my own backyard.

Brooke
10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
What a story! Catch Journey today on Oprah:

http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090915-tows-journey-arnel

Prettymaid
10-05-2009, 02:29 PM
It was nice of Steve Perry to send well wishes.

sodascouts
10-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Just read it. It's like a fairy tale story! And I agree it was very classy that Stevie Perry sent that note. I love it when people who may have had an acrimonious breakup mature and realize that despite everything, what they had together was really special and shouldn't be tarnished by bitterness.

vamp1227
10-16-2009, 09:57 AM
I think it was very classy of Steve Perry to send a well wish note...I didn't see them on this tour but saw them with Steve Augeri..We had the pleasure of meeting his wife and what a class act she was...
I do think Arnel sounds like Perry..I like their Revelations cd..

WalshFan88
11-16-2010, 06:35 AM
I really like Journey, especially my favorite "Lights". Steve Perry is one of the greatest rock singers of all time. He has one of those "unique" voices like many others such as Steven Tyler, Brian Johnson, Bon Scott, Axl Rose, etc. Neal Schon is a great guitarist too.

TimothyBFan
12-13-2010, 08:52 AM
Well, helllllllllo Steve!!!! :heybaby:

WalshFan88
06-21-2012, 07:10 PM
I'm working on getting tickets to see Journey on September 19th. Pat Benatar and Loverboy are opening. It's in Peoria, IL for those wondering. Show is at 7PM(central).

I love Journey and am a big Schon fan.

Windeagle
06-22-2012, 04:11 PM
I'm working on getting tickets to see Journey on September 19th. Pat Benatar and Loverboy are opening. It's in Peoria, IL for those wondering. Show is at 7PM(central).

I love Journey and am a big Schon fan.

I hope you get them, Austin. I'd love to hear about the show.

I saw Journey on the tour for the album that had "Faithfully" on it (forgot the title!) I loved that song!

Brooke
06-22-2012, 04:14 PM
Yes, be sure to tell us about it!

I don't know, I don't really care to see them live without Steve Perry. I know the new guy is great, but...... But that's just me. :shrug:

WalshFan88
06-22-2012, 04:49 PM
Yes, be sure to tell us about it!

I don't know, I don't really care to see them live without Steve Perry. I know the new guy is great, but...... But that's just me. :shrug:

I understand what you mean - but for me I go to concerts to enjoy the songs and hear them and for entertainment value. I used to feel that way about bands without certain important members. Lynyrd Skynyrd with only Gary as the original, Eagles without Felder, KISS without Ace and Peter, Journey without Steve, etc but I just go to have fun and as long as they put on a good show I will go. I also think the new guy sounds scarily close to Steve. Also, from what I'm hearing lately Steve can no longer sing anymore and has lost his voice so it's not like the rest of Journey is holding them back. Most of the time as long as they do the tunes right, sound great, and whatnot I will go. Otherwise if I didn't I'd probably not go to an Eagles show without Felder. I sorely miss him and I could even go on as far as to say "it isn't the same band without him". But I go because the new guy does a close enough job and I just go to have a good time and to hear music and see the show (gimmicks or lightworks, etc) and so on.

But I understand what you mean and once a band loses an original member some just will not go and see them. And I respect that, but I personally never got to see the "real" Skynyrd, Journey, KISS, Eagles w/ Felder, etc so I am settling for the next best thing. As long as they put on a good show, that's all that matters.

Brooke
06-22-2012, 04:58 PM
Yeah, but for me, losing the voice of the band (or voices in the Eagles case) is a very big part to lose. I'd never go see the Eagles without Glenn and Don H. But that's just me.

But I'm sure it will be a good show, Austin. Have fun and tell us all about it!

WalshFan88
06-22-2012, 09:47 PM
Yeah for me I see it as all being equal contributions. I know a lot of people though tend to focus most on the lead singers/frontmen and have always wondered why that is.

I will definitely give a report! :)

ETA: Just scored 2nd row seats! Front row had already been sold out as I didn't hear about it until yesterday and they had been onsale since the 15th.

BramwenR
06-23-2012, 03:33 AM
I must have missed that Steve left the band, it was news to me.

But I'll tell you what...I clicked on a song of Journey's, a live version of Don't Stop Believing in Manila..and I hear Steve's voice but I looked a little closer..and discovered it wasn't him at all but this diminutive guy with a BIG voice. He absolutely blew me away. At first I thought, he has to be lip-synching, nobody can sing like that and not be a fake.

I like to keep an open mind about replacement front men, to me it's like a rejuvenation of a younger Steve..it could be Steve in his younger days.

Arnel has had such a sad life, I always say that the greatest singers today came from the school of hard knocks and it made me cry watching his story on Oprah..so I always go for the soul first. I have never seen such energy on stage in awhile so in my mind, he's earned the right to be there. If they come out here I'd very likely go and see them.

So have fun, you lucky thing!! :yay:

WalshFan88
06-24-2012, 02:50 AM
Thanks! :)

Yes Arnel's story is very sad yet with a happy turnaround when he got to join Journey. I think there is a movie or documentary/short film coming out about his life. Amazing singer. Definitely hits the Steve Perry stuff way better than Steve Augeri (Journey's first replacement singer for Perry).

BramwenR
06-24-2012, 06:35 AM
Yes, very sad. I looked at a lot of video on him yesterday, the doco should be very interesting. I never knew about Auguri, see how behind the times I am!! But Arnel nails those Perry notes and then some. What an exciting singer!:yay:

TimothyBFan
06-25-2012, 09:01 AM
Count me also as one who will not see them without Steve. I also believe Arnell has a wonderful very Steve Perry kind of voice but Journey is not Journey, for me, without Steve. He made those songs hits.

I also think he got a very raw deal when the reunion was coming together and he hurt his hip. I've even seen stories where the other band members claim it was just an excuse for him not to go out on tour and that they didn't even think he hurt his hip and that the reason he was putting off the surgery at that time was because he wasn't hurt and if so, not that bad. The year they actually went out on tour with the other Steve, 1998 I think?, was the year Steve finally had to have the surgery. He was told by doctors that by the end of the year, he'd be good to go. The band didn't wait. In an interview with Steve (I want to say it might of even been Behind The Music?), he stated how upsetting this was. At that point was when I said I will never see Journey again.

As for his voice, I don't know for sure, but what I've heard of it, I don't think it's changed that much. He's done a few odds & ends I've seen and he sounded good to me. My favorite was at the ball game where he lead the unsuspecting crowd in Don't Stop Believing. I'm sure the video's been posted here before, but here it is again. Love the way the camera scans around to see what's going on and then at about :45, there's Steve and the look on the crowd's faces around him. Priceless!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-DpMFd8_A

Prettymaid
06-25-2012, 10:24 PM
TBF, I'm so glad you posted that video again! I was thinking of it while reading the current posts in this thread.

A few weeks ago we were watching a wonderful Foreigner concert on Palladia (TV). Afterwards a Journey concert came on and the sound was absolutely terrible! Not sure if it was the band or the audio but we had to turn it off after the first song.


I'm working on getting tickets to see Journey on September 19th. Pat Benatar and Loverboy are opening.

Loverboy!!! Now there's a blast from the past!

TimothyBFan
06-26-2012, 07:38 AM
Loverboy!!! Now there's a blast from the past!

Have you seen them lately? It's been a couple years but I was shocked! They sounded good but they haven't, shall we say?, aged well. Mike Reno looks like he should be driving truck or something. It was just strange. I've seen so many of my aging rock stars over the years but for some reason, Loverboy is the one that has shocked me more than any of the others on how much they had changed.:woah:

Prettymaid
06-26-2012, 07:50 AM
No, I haven't, and unlike you, who I GREATLY admire :bow:, I do not know the names of individual members of bands - not even well known bands!

I vaguely remember the lead singer from Loverboy on MTV back in the eighties with his bandana around his head...is that Mike Reno?

Just to give you an idea of how pitiful I am, I saw a little bit from a Steve Miller Band concert on TV several months ago and I was thrilled to finally see what he looks like - had never even seen a picture of him all these years!

TimothyBFan
06-26-2012, 07:55 AM
No, I haven't, and unlike you, who I GREATLY admire :bow:, I do not know the names of individual members of bands - not even well known bands!

You're funny!!! :rofl:


I vaguely remember the lead singer from Loverboy on MTV back in the eighties with his bandana around his head...is that Mike Reno?

That's him. He's definitely changed. Shocking!!


Just to give you an idea of how pitiful I am, I saw a little bit from a Steve Miller Band concert on TV several months ago and I was thrilled to finally see what he looks like - had never even seen a picture of him all these years!

That's funny!! He's changed a bit over the years also.

Victim of Love
06-28-2012, 11:12 PM
Journey is playing at Rally next month and while it's tempting, I feel the same as others...without Steve Perry it wouldn't be the same. My folks went to see them several times 'back inthe day' and I got to go along once or twice. I am, however, going to see Sugarland when they're here! Try to imagine Sugarland playing for 150,00 drunken Harley fanatics! LOL!

sad-cafe
06-04-2013, 01:35 AM
A friend of mine who has always been a huge Journey fan, was just telling me about this story Saturday night. Arnel really is amazing and sounds like Steve. I will probably buy the cd because I have always liked their music also but I will also admit that I really will miss Steve Perry. It just seems that he was the sound of Journey but maybe this new guy can make believers of me and other hardcore fans after all.


I will have to check this out. I was a huge Journey fan and just can not imagine it without its "voice"


I have heard that Steve Perry has had some serious health issues but why did he stop singing. He had a gift.

WalshFan88
06-04-2013, 07:37 AM
I realize what you are saying. That said I truly enjoyed Journey's show. And Arnel Pineda is x1000 better than Steve Augeri when it comes to sounding like Perry.

I have just come to the conclusion that some bands I'll never see the original lineup so I might as well enjoy them while I can. Skynyrd without Ronnie and Allen, Journey without Steve, Eagles without Felder, Boston without Delp, etc etc.

My thoughts on it is that I want to see as many of the original members together while I can, and in the case of LS where only Gary is the original member left, I want to see him play.

That said if they were alive, well, getting along, etc I probably wouldn't go. But sometimes you don't have a choice.

For instance, as much as I love and miss Felder and my thoughts on that, I want to see what I can of the band before god forbid if they wrap it up... I realize not everyone can do that and use that reason, but for me I just want to see some of my heroes before it's too late (Joe w/ Eagles, Neal w/ Journey, etc). And I plan on seeing Felder in his solo show if he ever comes to IL. Honestly I wasn't for sure if I was going to go to this tour but the more I thought and read about it, I'd hate to miss their last tour and not have another chance. This will probably be the last time I see them live unless they do those Vegas residency things and I go out to Vegas and see them. But honestly, I'd probably not cuz I want to remember them by the 3 hour amazing shows and not by a short setlist. That's why I was hesitant also for this tour because when I saw them in '08, it was the full deal. And now that I know it will be a longer set I feel much more comfortable. To make it simple, I want to end it on the best note I possibly can. That's why I went for the best seats I could get and got a suite at the hotel, and am making a lot of fun things to do.

And maybe it's because I see the frontman/lead singer as an equal to the rest of the band that I'm able to do it. To me a guitar player is just as replaceable as a vocalist and vice versa, because even though the lead vocals are very recognizable, with a guitar yes you can play it exact but it won't have that same touch, signature sound, and that spirit of that same guitarist.

A guitar player has just as big of a voice as the singer, but it's admittedly easier to tell with human voice, but every player has their own voice on their instrument and while I can play Joe's licks dead on, it still comes across exact like the record, but it's always clinical sounding or going through the motions because we are unique as players and only Joe sounds exactly like Joe.

And to that end, just like I want to leave it on the best note possible with the Eagles, if I had seen these bands with the original guys, I'd admittedly have a different view. I didn't, so I'm taking what I can get. So to those that have seen him, then I can definitely understand and I'd agree to leave it on the great note with that original member as being the final memory.

But I truly do want to see these bands with as many originals as I can before something happens and they leave or god forbid if one passes.

zeldabjr
06-04-2013, 01:01 PM
Arnel Pineda is amazing and does sound a lot like Steve...but to me Steve Perry was Journey...end of story...just my opinion...

sad-cafe
06-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Arnel Pineda is amazing and does sound a lot like Steve...but to me Steve Perry was Journey...end of story...just my opinion...


agree 100 %

Witchy Woman
06-04-2013, 10:09 PM
Arnel Pineda is amazing and does sound a lot like Steve...but to me Steve Perry was Journey...end of story...just my opinion...

This.

I respect the fact that they have carried on with Arnel Pineda, and he is very talented. But he is NOT Steve Perry. I would pay big money to see them reunite with him.

zeldabjr
06-04-2013, 10:55 PM
This.

I respect the fact that they have carried on with Arnel Pineda, and he is very talented. But he is NOT Steve Perry. I would pay big money to see them reunite with him.

oh yeah me too!!!

WalshFan88
06-05-2013, 12:05 AM
From what I understand of it, Steve was not willing to tour anymore and they didn't want to quit, so I can't blame them for going on... I agree Steve is a big part of Journey but Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain are huge too. Neal is one of the nicest guys out there in rock n' roll and Jonathan Cain as well and I'm sure they wish Steve would have went on tour with them. But Steve didn't feel up to touring anymore and not liking the fast paced life of the road on his health and was fatigued.

The way I see it is the same with Styx, Dennis DeYoung didn't want to tour and the rest did. One person no matter how important shouldn't stop the others from going out there and no frontman god forbid should expect them to rename the group just because he is no longer there as they both suggested.

I don't put any blame on the guys of Journey for wanting to continue. Steve, like Dennis, just wasn't happy even though they both were running the show, they felt like they had no say-so. I watched both Behind the Music shows and I have to say that I've seen Styx as well and it was great.

I guess I get a little tired of the whole lead singer ego thing and them thinking they are the band. What separates a BAND from an artist with backing musicians is the fact that one member is just as important or replaceable as another. I've never understood the obsession with the lead singer but it doesn't make much sense to me. Just seems to me that lead singers throw fits and let their egos get in the way and ruin great bands because it goes to their head. Axl Rose of GnR is a great example. This idea that the frontman is less replaceable than the guitar player really bothers me. To me a band is a team and they should all have equal say-so. Otherwise it's the "insert singer here" show with a bunch of sidemen, which is no fun. The lead guitarist is just as important to me in a band and is just as deserving of praise as a lead singer. That's why I prefer lead singer over "frontman". As I said, it should be equal. I realize Don Henley disagrees with me, lol, as he said they can't all be leaders in a band but I humbly disagree.

Aerosmith is a great example of how it should be, two front guys. The guitar player is as revered as the singer. Joe Perry and Steven Tyler are a team and while they have fights, they both are equally not replaceable. Maybe it's my bias as a guitar player. When Joe left, and Steven was still there people hated it. That's how it should be. The guitarist is just as important to the voice of the band.

If Steve would tour, that would be great but I really don't put any blame on Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain. It was Steve's decision, not like he was fired.

I've heard some stories that his health is in bad shape, etc but I'd go see a reunion in a heartbeat. He IS a fantastic singer and I do love great lead singers, but I just don't like it when a band becomes all about one member.

It's really Steve's call. I'm sure Neal and Jonathan would accept him back if he would/could do it.

/rant :hilarious:

Turf
06-05-2013, 01:20 AM
Steve Perry from Journey and Brad Delp from Boston were both lead singers that were almost too good in the sense that once they left, replacing them was borderline impossible.

I can't remember where I read it or saw it, but I remember Daryl Hall talking about the making of "We Are the World." Apparently, he was next Steve Perry and he came away thinking: wow, that guy can sing!

MaryCalifornia
05-27-2014, 12:05 PM
Steve Perry sang Open Arms on stage last night!!

http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/05/27/journeys-steve-perry-takes-the-stage-for-the-first-time-in-19-years/

Sounds like he still has the voice, just needs some rehearsal/practice!

UK TimFan
05-27-2014, 09:15 PM
Thank you so much for the Steve Perry link, MaryC.
So good to see Steve on stage again. :faint:

Ive always been a dreamer
05-27-2014, 11:18 PM
I agree - that's something I didn't expect for sure. It would be great to hear more from him in the future.

WalshFan88
05-28-2014, 12:45 AM
Pretty cool.

Tiffanny Twisted
05-28-2014, 08:49 AM
thanks mary c
I had heard about it but had not had a chance to watch the clip till today.
BOY HES BEEN THROUGH A LOT

tjh532
06-01-2014, 04:36 PM
Such an iconic voice! A big part of the soundtrack of my teenage years :)
He sounded great- maybe a Journey reunion and tour?

New Kid In Town
03-07-2023, 03:39 PM
Hi everybody ! The threads have been kind of quite. Anyway, while I was waiting in my dentist's office last week I was looking through YT videos and came across a video where Steve Perry was interviewed by Dan Rather in 2019. I think it was for a Pod Cast but not sure. It was really interesting. He discussed his then new cd "traces''(had never hear of it- lol). I had always liked Journey but was never a hard core fan. Boy I have to say I forgot what a beautiful voice he had and how cute he was. His interview with Dan Rather was in a sense so sad. He said he left Journey in 1987 because he was so burned out, was tired of fame, and could not do it anymore. He said after his Mom died in Dec. 1985, he never had time to grieve, they were always touring. He also talked about the hip injury that resulted in him leaving Journey again in 1998. Turns out he had to have double hip replacement surgery. He stated that Journey was one of the hardest touring bands. He said they toured 10 months, 5 days per week, for 10 years(1977-1987). He said he was exhausted physically and emotionally and asked Herbie(their manager) to cut back and he refused. Said he left for his health and sanity.
He also discussed his girlfriend, who he said was his soul mate, who died of breast cancer in 2012. He talked about isolating himself after he left Journey both times. Truthfully it sounded like he had suffered from depression for years and admitted going to therapy. He also stated he was "violated"(not family members) between the ages of 6-10. Dan R. tried to pull more info out of him about it but he politely refused to discuss it. He did say he has a daughter and two grandkids, which I did not know.
I just thought he sounded very sad and it was heat breaking listening to him discuss the loss of his mother and girlfriend. I also got the impression their manager ran them ragged to make every cent he could get. I was shocked to learn Irvin Azoff was their manager when they re-united in 1995. Boy, Irvin had his hands in everything.

Anyhow, I thought the whole interview was very interesting and showed a whole different side of the rock star life.

FreyFollower
03-09-2023, 01:22 AM
Hi NKIT! A friend of mine's son just saw Journey, and said that they were awesome. I'm guessing the Dan Rather interview was from a program of his on AXS TV where he interviewed music artists one on one. It was usually very insightful. Sadly, we stopped getting that network years ago.
I knew Steve had some issues that caused him to quit, but those were terrible! You'd think at their pinnacle would be when stars have it the easiest. But all of the stress, lack of rest/sleep and constant demands to deliver have driven folks to divorce, drugs & alcohol, and suicide. Of course, that was what mainly drove Eagles apart. If they had not been so pressured, things probably would have been very different. I know Glenn said his parents were happy when he quit, because they could see the toll it was taking on his health.

New Kid In Town
03-09-2023, 12:01 PM
Hi FF - how are you doing ? I don't get the AXS channel. Yes, I agree about the touring. I remember Don and Glenn both saying they should have taken a year off after HC but the record company would not let them. I think Glenn leaving the band was the best thing for him and an act of self -preservation. He/they were doing too much drugs and drinking.

I had read that Steve said before he left the band in 1987 he had asked Herbie H. to lessen the tour schedule and give them a breaking from touring and he refused. Steve said they toured non stop - 10 months per year, five days per week, for 10 years. He stated the other two days were travel days so they never really got to rest. The other two months they worked on putting out their albums. He said right after he joined Journey the first tour he went on they left Feb. 1st and he did not get home until Dec. 20th. That is a crazy, insane schedule ! No wonder he burned out and I'm sure that had to be rough on his voice too. I think for Steve it was also for his self-preservation. I admire him for being able to walk away like that.

Ive always been a dreamer
03-09-2023, 04:34 PM
Thanks for that, FF. Yeah - We hear it all the time that in spite of making lots of $$, the rock and roll lifestyle isn't all the glitz and glamour it's cracked up to be.