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sodascouts

12-18-2006, 10:03 PM

Well, it just so happens that Stevie loves to talk about Joe, so I actually know lots of details!

When Joe signed on to tour with Stevie in 1983, they naturally started spending time together, and to hear Stevie tell it, there was an instant attraction. She says in her liner notes to TimeSpace that after she met him, she thought: "I can never be far from this person again... he is my soul. He seemed to be in a lot of pain, though hid it well." (She is very dramatic lol).

They really bonded one time in Colorado - you may have heard the story of the song "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You" and Emma's fountain. After that time, I think Stevie felt really close to Joe, like he was letting her see a side of him that he didn't show to others - the side that wasn't all laughs and partying.

After the tour, however, problems started to emerge. They started touring separately. Stevie felt like Joe wasn't serious enough about their relationship. She has related that she would have given up everything, even her career, if Joe Walsh had asked her to, "if he could be serious for two seconds." She loved him that much, but he didn't seem to want to put out the effort to be with her.

The breaking point came one day after Joe had gotten back from a tour. Stevie was trying to work in the studio with Waddy Wachtel, and Joe came over. Instead of waiting until she was done and then spending time with her, he decided to go and have some fun with the guys. They were hanging around the studio getting drunk and/or stoned, laughing, having a grand old time, and meanwhile Stevie was off to the side waiting for her time, but never got it. Finally, she got tired of waiting. She told him she was leaving, and asked him to come with her. Then, he tells her - "Oh, I meant to tell you - I can't see you tomorrow. I'm leaving to go on another tour." Stevie threw a fit - he knew he was leaving the next day, and this was how he acted?! She said, "I don't think this is working" and turned to leave. At this point, Joe delivered a line that Stevie actually incorporated in a song later - "If you walk out that door, you cease to exist." Well, she walked out, and still seems to be doing fine, lol. (At the time I first heard this story, I was so mad at Joe as a Stevie fan! lol)

An addendum: a while later, after she finished her next album Rock a Little, she got in contact with Joe again. She called him and asked him if he'd like her to come over and play it for him. He said yes, so she rode out to his place in a limo ride which took a couple hours. Once she got there, Joe once again didn't have time for her. She was so mad about this that she wrote the song "Long Way to Go" about it - the lyrics to the chorus: "Well, it's a real long way to go to say goodbye! I thought we already did that - have fun! Tell the world!" lol

So Joe actually inspired TWO songs of Stevie's, with a line of his getting into a third. Not bad!

sodascouts

12-18-2006, 10:09 PM

And it just so happens that Steive loves to talk about Don, so I know some details about that, too! lol But I think I might have already wrote out this story on a thread here in the past - :: goes digging ::

It's in a long thread, so I'll just repost what I said here:

Well, Stevie and Don's affair was passionate, but it was never really serious. It started in 1975 and lasted a couple years, off and on. They would have these rendevous where they would meet up, have sex, have fun and then each would go their separate ways. In the rare times when neither were touring, they would spend time together, but they never lived together or anything like that. Indeed Stevie had sex with Lindsey Buckingham in between her rendevous with Don. Songs like "Sara" and "One More Big Time Rock'n'Roll Star" imply that Stevie wanted more than that, but that Don wasn't on the same page. They remained friends and maybe hooked up a few more times, but that was it.

Their "fun" relationship did not seem to survive Stevie getting pregnant with Don's baby. She told him about it and it seems they mutually agreed she should abort, but Stevie has expressed regret about it since. Of course it's thanks to Don spilling the beans about it in the early 90s that we even know about the abortion at all! Stevie fans have always been angry about that, and about how he framed it: "I believe to the best of my knowledge [Stevie] became pregnant by me..." Um, she TOLD you it was yours Don! :: shakes head ::

Some Stevie fans believe that Don ended it BECAUSE Stevie got pregnant and left her to deal with it on her own, but she's never actually said that. Still, those who believe that hate Don, and point to his ambivalence about stating that the baby was his in the above interview as "evidence." They also use lyrics from Sara to back it up - she wanted Don to "finish his house" and "call her home" - a home for a baby - but he didn't want to "stay with her a while" so she wound up aborting the baby. (Stevie has said that Don often invited her to hook up in his house while it was still under construction and that's what inspired those lines - by the time he finished the house, it was over.) No proof of that abortion scenario, though.

Personally, I don't think Stevie wanted a baby at that point in her life regardless of whether or not Don "called her home." She was doing coke, flying around the world, partying constantly, and at the height of her success. She has even said that one of the considerations for her having the abortion was that having a baby would make it impossible for Fleetwood Mac to tour for Rumours. She has never blamed Don in any way or had anything but good things to say about him, to this day.

I also want to say that there are alternative demo versions of "Sara" which belie the "bad Don" theory because they have additional lyrics like "And he reached out gently." Hardly condemning words.

sodascouts

12-18-2006, 10:12 PM

On another note, I wonder why Stevie doesn't do anything (like concerts and appearances and stuff) with Joe like she does with Don. Or didn't she ever do any of that with joe?

Oh and one more question :roll: :laugh: does anyone know how old Joe and Stevie were when they dated? Also....how old were Don and Stevie when they dated? Ok that was more than one question :laugh: I won't even ask how long each couple was together. :wink:

Not sure about why Joe doesn't do Stevie's charity events. She says they're friends now, but certainly not like she's friends with Don - a very close relationship there. She said that Don was one of the first people she called after 9/11 (she was trapped in New York at the time). Don also was there for her when her father died in 2005 - I always admired how he stayed with her when she was greeting we fans (that's how I got to meet Don) because she needed his support - her dad was very sick and died a few days later.

Stevie was born in 1948, Joe in 1947. You do the math. ;)

Maleah

12-18-2006, 10:15 PM

Wow! :shock: Joe was a jerk in the later days of their relationship! I've never even listened to Stevie's music but when I read that line where he said "if you walk out that door, you cease to exist," my jaw dropped and I was like....JOE!!! lol

sodascouts

12-18-2006, 11:46 PM

Guys, I dug up some quotes about this - Here they are (courtesy of Stevie fan Ali)

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991
(about her relationship with Joe Walsh)"We went on the Wild Heart tour and after about a week I went into a bar and he [Joe] was sitting there and he just looked up at me and that was it. It was love at first sight. You should have seen me, I went and yelled at people about his sound checks. I bought him incredible silk shirts and leg warmers that he wore! I took really good care of him and I think that is what scared Joe the most because I was too in tune with him and he was too used to being out of tune with everyone. I really understood him well. I was really hard nosed about him. If my house was full and Joe called I would tell everyone to get out.

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991
(about why she broke up with Joe Walsh)"What happened at the end was I was getting ready to cut two songs with Waddy Wachtel producing and we only had two nights to rehearse and Joe had been off in New Zealand or something and he came down about one or two in the mornting or something and he was real good friends with everyone in my band. That would have been fine any other night but I was really angry with what Joe had done because he completely screwed up that session. He just had everyone dying laughing because he just tells a hundred jokes and everyone was just rolling in the floor laughing and I was going “this is not fair” because he is not being sensitive at all to this whole situation and “you know I would give up anything for you, even my dammed career for you if he was serious enough." I had a limousine and I asked Joe if he wanted to take me home or come home with him and he said, “well, I didn’t tell you this but I’m leaving for Australia like tonight and I have to pack so I’m just going to get a ride home with Waddy” and I said “ok” and started walking towards the door and I turned around and said “Joe I don’t like where this relationship is going cause it’s not going anywhere and I don’t want to do it anymore.” And I started walking towards the door and he said “well you know, if you walk out the door, you basically cease to exist.” And I just din't stop walking."

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~August 27, 1991
(about whether she still loves Joe Walsh)"I will always love Joe. It will probably be hard for me to find somebody else that ever ever made me feel like Joe did. [After the breakup] At that point I just thought it was over, I thought that I would just be an old maid and just live with a bunch of dogs and cats in the mountains somewhere and that would be it because there just wouldn't be anything else for me."

Maleah

12-18-2006, 11:56 PM

wow, sounds like an intense relationship!

Maleah

12-19-2006, 12:02 AM

sodascouts

12-19-2006, 12:15 AM

Thanks for all the info! I knew Don and Stevie were still close. I wonder if that makes Don's wife feel uncomfortable at all. I think that would be kind of strange. :laugh: But in a way, I understand it as well. That's sweet that he was there for her when her Dad was sick. I also think that says a lot for her that she even stuck around to greet the fans when going through such a hard time.

Well, I remember that when Stevie turned 50, Don sent her 50 silver roses, and that Don's wife was NOT pleased. But that's the only time I've heard of her being uncomfortable with it. Apparently it didn't bother her too much, as their marriage is still going strong!

Seeing Don and Stevie together on tour in 2005 was HOT. During Gold Dust WOman, they danced together, and it was amazing! here are a couple photos taken by my fellow Stevie fan Mandy:

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksMandyPhilly0506.jpg

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksMandyPhilly0508.jpg

There are better ones out there, but I forget where!

And yes, it does say a lot that Stevie stayed for her fans, but she is just like that. When one of my friends almost died and we contacted Stevie through a charity, she sent her such a lovely letter.... oh my gosh.

I LOVE STEVIE NICKS. :heart:

DonFan

12-19-2006, 12:34 AM

Those great Don & Stevie photos remind me of seeing them in the summer of 2005...<sigh> You are right, they still had great chemistry together, and seeing them dance together like that was amazing.

BTW, I turned 50 in October---where are my 50 silver roses from Don? :cry:

sodascouts

12-19-2006, 12:58 AM

BTW - do any of you other ladies melt when you hear Stevie write lyrics like "And he reached out gently" about Don? (In another demo verison: "And her touched her gently".) SIIIGH.

sodascouts

12-19-2006, 01:09 AM

BTW, I turned 50 in October---where are my 50 silver roses from Don? :cry:

Maybe they're in the mail? lol

BTW - here is a video made to Stevie's song for Joe -"Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You" - that I uploaded to MySpace. Hearing Stevie sing this live is so powerful that it has made me cry before when I have been at her concerts. :blush: You can just tell it comes from her heart, telling Joe when he was struggling career-wise post-Eagles that "I believed in you...every day...." - but it's also translated universally to every fan like me who has been touched by Stevie's songs.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=19460234

EasyFeeling

12-19-2006, 05:37 AM

Wow, that was interesting to read! 8) Sadly I can't watch this video here on work, my boss is always running through our office. I will do that at home. It's good to know about their relationship before watching.

Those great Don & Stevie photos remind me of seeing them in the summer of 2005...<sigh> You are right, they still had great chemistry together, and seeing them dance together like that was amazing.

These pictures are beautiful. They danced together on stage, sooo romantic. :)

Maleah

12-19-2006, 08:32 AM

BTW - do any of you other ladies melt when you hear Stevie write lyrics like "And he reached out gently" about Don? (In another demo verison: "And her touched her gently".) SIIIGH.

well when I hear it someday.......I know I'll just swoon :D *sigh*

Maleah

12-19-2006, 08:33 AM

Those great Don & Stevie photos remind me of seeing them in the summer of 2005...<sigh> You are right, they still had great chemistry together, and seeing them dance together like that was amazing.

These pictures are beautiful. They danced together on stage, sooo romantic. :)

my thoughts exactly! lol Do we have a swooning emoticon? :laugh:

DonFan

12-19-2006, 11:10 AM

Do I melt when I hear Stevie sing lyrics about Don? Absolutely!

The lyrics to "Sara" get me every time.:
"He was singing....and undoing...undoing the laces..."

Ive always been a dreamer

12-19-2006, 01:23 PM

That is a lot of good scoop about Don, Joe, and Stevie. And if you think it seems awkward that Stevie had affairs with both of them, remember she also had affairs with two members of her own band (Lindsey and Mick Fleetwood). I think Don and Glenn shared a woman or two as well back in the day. It may seem strange, but after all, it was the 70's. :wink:

glenneaglesfan

12-19-2006, 06:08 PM

Do I melt when I hear Stevie sing lyrics about Don? Absolutely!

The lyrics to "Sara" get me every time.:
"He was singing....and undoing...undoing the laces..."

Oh, those lyrics get me every time. It's a beautiful song.

sodascouts

12-19-2006, 11:22 PM

Do I melt when I hear Stevie sing lyrics about Don? Absolutely!

The lyrics to "Sara" get me every time.:
"He was singing....and undoing...undoing the laces..."

Siiiigh. So romantic.

EasyFeeling

12-20-2006, 01:04 PM

I've have just seen the video. That's a beautiful song and she has a fantastic voice and she looks wonderful as well.
I would love to see a video with Don and her singing together. Is there any chance?

sodascouts

12-20-2006, 01:13 PM

sure. YouTube is a marvelous thing!

This is a clip I digitized that Leo put up on YouTube for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bHtlCCUaxA

This is from the same show - they're doing So You Want to Be a Rock'n'Roll Star:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugvTWRrPzQ0

Edited to add: I have other cips of them I could upload to YouTube when I get back to Indiana.

EasyFeeling

12-20-2006, 01:41 PM

Oooooooooooooh thank you! That is so awesome. :D Especially when he kisses her at the end of the song, so cute.

sodascouts

12-20-2006, 01:55 PM

I was lucky enough to be at that show. It was terrific!

Maleah

12-21-2006, 02:04 AM

Well I haven't watched L&L yet, but WOW....you weren't kidding. They really do go to town with the tambourines (sp? lol) on the other one! :laugh:

SweetHolly

03-14-2007, 06:22 PM

BTW, I turned 50 in October---where are my 50 silver roses from Don? :cry:
I turned 25 in August and didn't get my 25 silver roses from Don either. :(

DonFan

03-14-2007, 07:39 PM

Oh well, Holly, there's always next year! :wink:

sodascouts

09-08-2007, 09:28 PM

Here's a recent interview where Stevie gives a few more details about the relationship with Joe:
"'There are the great loves of your life,' [Stevie] says, 'then there are the loves of your life, and then there are the companions of your life - there's all the different kind of love affairs that you have. But all the great loves of my life wouldn't have been any better at settling down than me.'

And who has been the greatest love of her life?

'My great, great love was Joe Walsh.'

Joe Walsh? Of the Eagles? I struggle to keep the note of surprise out of my voice.

'It's crazy, isn't it?'

I am no expert on Nicks's romantic adventures, but I've done my research. Her affairs with Buckingham, Fleetwood, Don Henley, the record executive Jimmy Iovine - all are well chronicled. But nowhere have I found a single reference to Joe Walsh.

'1983 to 1986,' Nicks says crisply. 'I don't know - why do you love somebody? Why do you love them so much that when they walk in the room your heart jumps out of your chest? I don't know. But I fell in love with Joe at first sight from across the room, in the bar at the Mansions Hotel in Dallas. I looked at him and I walked across the room and I sat on the bar stool next to him, and two seconds later I crawled into his lap, and that was it.

'We were probably the perfect, complete, crazy pair. He was the one that I would have married, and that I would probably have changed my life around for…' She pauses. 'A little bit. Not a lot. But he wouldn't have changed his life either.'

The reason they broke up, she says, is that they were both 'really seriously drug addicts. We were a couple on the way to hell.'

The relationship finally ended when Walsh got on a plane and went to Australia 'to get away from me, basically. He thought - or so I'm told by my friends that Joe told - that one of us was going to die, and the other person would not be able to save them. And I did think I was going to die, absolutely. It took me a long, long time to get over it - if I ever got over it. Because there was no other man in the world for me. And it's the same today, even though Joe is married and has two sons. He met somebody in rehab and got married. And I think he's happy.'"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/09/08/sm_stevienicks.xml&page=1

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/graphics/2007/09/08/sm_stevienicks.jpg

Doesn't she look great?!!!!

Maleah

09-08-2007, 10:27 PM

tbs fanatic

09-08-2007, 10:47 PM

Oh, that is interesting. Wow, she really, really loved him. He must surely know it. How cool. A little weird for Don though. Is Joe still with his wife? I thought they broke up.

sodascouts

09-08-2007, 10:53 PM

It sure seems like it. I was under the impression Joe was at least separated from his wife but I don't know for sure. He does have a daughter named Lucy who is trying to make it in the music business. That's all I know about his family, I'm afraid!

If Joe is not with his wife anymore, maybe he should give Stevie a call!

Freypower

09-09-2007, 01:57 AM

oh wow! I wonder how he feels when he reads stuff like that. I wonder how DON feels! LOL! There's this small part of me that hints Don would be a little jealous of that fact....even though he's happily married. At least if I were in his shoes, it would be a little awkward that a woman you had an affair with says that your bandmate was the only REAL love of her life. :lol:

Is Joe still married? I thought I read somewhere that he has a daughter...so is it two sons and one daughter?

Surely Don and Stevie had an 'affair' as you put it? From what I understand it was not a long lasting relationship or deep love, Stevie's resultant abortion regardless, although no doubt it was intense at the time. I don't see why Don would be 'jealous' about Stevie and Joe. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

If Joe came to Australia to escape Stevie in 1986 that would be on either the Party Boys or Creatures From America tour that I saw.

JoeFan

09-09-2007, 03:13 AM

glenneaglesfan

09-09-2007, 02:30 PM

Soda, thanks for posting that. I actually read that yesterday in the Daily Telegraph magazine and was going to post it today. The whole article is very interesting. I didn't realise how Stevie got so messed up with prescription drugs and how courageous she was to get off them. Her description of her love for Joe is rather moving, and I agree that Don could have grounds for feeling jealous, but from your accounts of their recent concerts together they seem to be on an even keel now.

I'll send the hard copy of the article to you.

sodascouts

09-09-2007, 05:05 PM

Oh, thank you so much GEF! I appreciate it!

Regarding the Joe / Stevie / Don dynamic.... it does make you wonder. Stevie obviously found her relationship with Joe more meaningful romantically, but if you look at the three today - it's Stevie and Don who have a closeness, not Stevie and Joe. Don and Stevie often call each other and appear at each other's benefits; but with Joe, apparently Stevie didn't even know he was estranged from his wife. Maybe the fact that it was less intense with Don made it easier for them to be friends afterwards. Joe may have been the love of her life, but Don is the one whom she turns to nowadays. Their relationship is the one that has lasted. I think that if it were up to Stevie, she would have that kind of relationship with Joe too, but he doesn't seem to be interested.

sodascouts

09-09-2007, 05:14 PM

Surely Don and Stevie had an 'affair' as you put it? From what I understand it was not a long lasting relationship or deep love, Stevie's resultant abortion regardless, although no doubt it was intense at the time. I don't see why Don would be 'jealous' about Stevie and Joe. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

It was more a "fun" relationship according to Stevie, which is probably why something like a pregnancy brought everything screeching to a halt. Still, I think it would be perfectly natural for Don to feel a stab of dismay or even jealousy that Joe ranks higher on Stevie's "Great Loves" scale. It doesn't mean he's bitter about losing Stevie; it's just the male ego! It would only be human nature for Don to prefer a statement like "The man who meant the most to me was Don Henley, despite the relative brevity of our affair... it was just THAT wonderful a time. NEXT is Joe Walsh, whom I wanted to marry..." lol

DonFan

09-09-2007, 11:13 PM

It was more a "fun" relationship according to Stevie, which is probably why something like a pregnancy brought everything screeching to a halt. Still, I think it would be perfectly natural for Don to feel a stab of dismay or even jealousy that Joe ranks higher on Stevie's "Great Loves" scale. It doesn't mean he's bitter about losing Stevie; it's just the male ego! It would only be human nature for Don to prefer a statement like "The man who meant the most to me was Don Henley, despite the relative brevity of our affair... it was just THAT wonderful a time. NEXT is Joe Walsh, whom I wanted to marry..." lol

Didn't I read somewhere that Don's wife Sharon got very jealous over the fact that he sends Stevie roses on her birthday every year? Since Sharon obviously has a problem with Don's closeness to Stevie, maybe that is why Stevie never talks in interviews about the intensity or passion during her time with Don--out of respect for Don & Sharon's marriage.

sodascouts

09-09-2007, 11:47 PM

Didn't I read somewhere that Don's wife Sharon got very jealous over the fact that he sends Stevie roses on her birthday every year?

I read that too, in the National Enquirer (I just looked at it while waiting in line in the supermarket, honest!) That publication isn't known for its 100% dedication to accuracy, though!

Since Sharon obviously has a problem with Don's closeness to Stevie, maybe that is why Stevie never talks in interviews about the intensity or passion during her time with Don--out of respect for Don & Sharon's marriage.

I can see that. She used to talk all the time about Lindsey Buckingham as her "great love" but now that he is married with children, all of the sudden he's just a "musical soulmate." Maybe she does try to respect the wife's feelings. Of course Joe is/was married too...

Maleah

09-10-2007, 03:22 PM

Very interesting, thanks for posting that.

I can certainly see how Henley might be a bit jealous, not necessarily because he wanted Stevie Nicks for himself, but because every man wants to think that he is the most memorable lover, and here Stevie says Joe was the great love of her life and not Henley. I can see how that might bother Henley a bit.

yeah...that's what I was THINKING and had trouble, apparently, actually saying :lol: I would think that would be something that would bother a lot of guys.......if someone they were with at one time was also with their friend and/or bandmate....and then the friend/bandmate was the one she recalled as her one true love.

sodascouts

09-11-2007, 03:50 PM

Here's a funny bit. Another site picked up on Stevie's interview, declaring it to be a dramatic reveal of a secret affair. Yeah, it was so secret she's discussed it on national television before (VH1's Storytellers 1998 ) and in multiple interviews. Gotta love this kind of piggy-back journalism, where they've done no research themselves and wind up printing mistakes as facts.

Stevie Nick's Secret Eagles Romance (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/stevie%20nicks%20secret%20eagles%20romance_1043176 )

glenneaglesfan

09-11-2007, 04:13 PM

That's quite funny really, Soda. You have already posted quotes by Stevie about Joe earlier in this thread, so it's no great secret to people who know where to look.

It's interesting to read Stevie's summary of her relationship with Lindsey - more about the music. I think I agree with you that perhaps she is sensitive to both Lindsey and Don, and their subsequent marriages, and for sure she felt that Joe was now in a happy relationship (which sadly may now be in doubt). She comes across as a very sweet and sensitive person.

Perfect Little Sister

09-11-2007, 07:43 PM

Freypower

09-11-2007, 11:12 PM

I just wanted to confirm that I first saw Joe with the Party Boys on December 7 1984, and with the Creatures From America in 1986 (I don't have the exact date at the moment - I can find out later) so it does appear that what Stevie says about 1986 is correct. I think it was towards the end of the year, round about November.

JoeFan

09-12-2007, 04:50 AM

Very interesting, thanks for posting that.

I can certainly see how Henley might be a bit jealous, not necessarily because he wanted Stevie Nicks for himself, but because every man wants to think that he is the most memorable lover, and here Stevie says Joe was the great love of her life and not Henley. I can see how that might bother Henley a bit.

Just my opinion, JF, but I think the most memorable lover and the great love of one's life don't have to be the same person.

My post wasn't even about that, you entirely missed the point, I was trying to explain why Henley wouldn't enjoy coming after Joe to Stevie Nicks, not argue that greatest lovers are also always loves of a lifetime. I don't even believe that. In fact as far as I can see, I never said that, guess you feel I implied it, well I didn't mean to. I'm not some daft tart who can't distinguish between a good shag and meaningful love.

Perfect Little Sister

09-12-2007, 02:27 PM

LOL, JF! Thanks for setting me straight.

JoeFan

09-13-2007, 04:38 AM

I'm glad I could clarify my meaning for you.

The Bomber

09-15-2007, 11:35 AM

Stevie Nicks was quite a babe back then. If I was Joe I would have been showing her "great love" every day, haha.

Kyle

11-01-2007, 04:05 PM

If they had a child together, that would be one weird, cool and beautifal kid!She always looked good to me, and Joe is a lucky dude!

sodascouts

11-01-2007, 04:16 PM

You might enjoy this, Kyle! (Done by a bored Stevie fan)

What a kid of theirs might grow up to look like:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Sanne2/morph014.jpg

JoeFan

11-06-2007, 04:35 AM

That's a mite disturbing actually.

AzEaglesFan

03-31-2009, 02:26 PM

http://www.wowowow.com/entertainment/stevie-nicks-what-60-looks-now-254692 I hope this works, I want to get Stevie's new DVD. I heard her talk about no cell phone, etc on a show not to long ago

sodascouts

03-31-2009, 03:19 PM

I was at the taping of that DVD in Chicago. You must get it! Thanks for posting that article. Love this part:

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When asked about her online life, she skips barely a beat: "I don’t have a computer or a cell phone. I am old-school all the way. I am school of rock."

"In 1983 when I was going out with the love of my life, Joe Walsh (legendary rock god of James Gang and Eagles fame), he had built a room in a loft filled with pianos." According to Nicks, the first time she heard a tune she had just picked out on an electronic keyboard instantly played back by Walsh with full orchestration, she realized, "Everyone, even the violinists had been replaced."

Later that year, Walsh told Nicks he couldn’t be with her on her favorite holiday, Halloween, because he had to work on his computer.

"That means I have also been replaced. If computers are going to replace me in a man’s life and replace those violinists …"

That was the end of Nicks’s relationship with computers.

Prettymaid

03-31-2009, 06:33 PM

Great article - amazing story!

sodascouts

04-23-2009, 11:35 AM

Stevie mentions her relationship with Joe again in an upcoming issue of People magazine. It expands more on a problem with Joe's she mentioned in the past:

Former rock couple STEVIE NICKS and JOE WALSH were so hooked on drugs during their romance, they feared they'd die if they didn't split.

The Fleetwood MAC singer dated Eagles star Walsh during the 1980s and describes him as "the great, great love of my life".

But they both began taking cocaine in vast quantities and Nicks blames the drug for ruining their relationship.

She tells People magazine, "There was nothing more important than Joe Walsh - not my music, not my songs, not anything.

"We had to break up or we thought we'd die. It took me years to get over it. It's very sad but at least we survived."

Nothing more important?? Wow! She hasn't put it that way before!

MikeA

04-23-2009, 12:07 PM

I have great respect for Stevie, Nancy. But I have to keep reminding myself that she does have a tendency to use strong adjectives in describing emotions. I've no doubt she felt that way about Joe...Joe has made similarly complimentary remarks about Stevie (maybe "complimentary" is too weak a term). But, Stevie has felt strongly about at least two others that I'm aware of, namely Lindsey Buckingham and Don Henley. I do not think the remarks coming from Stevie are contradictory.

It is the strongest of terms of endearment that I've heard her referring to Joe with though and that's a fact!

ticky

04-23-2009, 12:10 PM

I just saw that on my google alert. Here's the link, some good pictures of Stevie..

STEVIE NICKS - NICKS' 'DEADLY' ROMANCE WITH WALSH ~ Contactmusic.com (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/nicks%20deadly%20romance%20with%20walsh_1101401)

As far as "Most important" you know Stevie has a way of embellishing reality for dramatic effect, but she has said on more then on occasion he was the great love in her life.
What I find interesting here is
1. They're both clean and drug free now, if they were such great loves, why didnt they rediscover each other?
2. If the drugs are what split them apart and now they are both drug free but not "together" was it the drugs that made them a "couple"? so to speak. Im sure you can infer my meaning here.
3. Do we know who Stevie is involved with currently?

sodascouts

04-23-2009, 12:48 PM

Well, I agree with you guys that Stevie tends to go for the dramatic descriptions and might overstate a bit. She has indeed said that both Joe Walsh and Lindsey Buckingham were her "Greatest loves" so yeah, she's not always consistent in that regard. Still, it's a great compliment to Joe!

I don't think anyone but Joe and Stevie can answer your questions, ticky. Just speculating - maybe the intensity of the relationship made it harder to reconnect later, ironically. I'm sure it's hard to open oneself up to that kind of heartbreak again. Also, Joe has been in serious relationships for the vast majority of the time that he's been sober. He was "taken."

I think it's safe to say Stevie would deny #2, though - that their relationship was based solely on drug-fueled passion. She has always called the relationship one of people who were attracted to each other because they understood each other; in fact, she claimed she was the ONLY one who truly "got" Joe.

Honestly, I kind of get the feeling Joe wasn't as into Stevie as she was into him. Certainly he doesn't talk about her with that kind of passion. Indeed, while lately he has said complimentary things, in the early 90s he openly mocked her and even called her a "road f--k" on Howard Stern. :( Of course, maybe that was the alcohol talking, and his almost compulsive desire to get a laugh, no matter what, like we recently saw with his comment about Leadon. I reiterate that in recent years, he has spoken of her kindly and even said that The Confessor would not have gotten made without her support.

The last name that has been publicly associated romantically with Stevie was Rupert Hine... and that 20 years ago. She says she is single now as "no man can handle my lifestyle." Of course, in a recent interview, she said it was never really over with Lindsey until 1998 when he had his first kid with his now-wife (they were not married at the time). Makes you go "hmmmm...."

The story is all over the newswires and I didn't see that particular link with photos ticky. Thanks!

sodascouts

04-23-2009, 01:06 PM

I also wanted to add - and this is completely my own speculation as a Stevie fan who has followed her interviews closely - that Stevie saw herself as Joe's "savior" who could "make him better" as she likes to say. By styling herself as the only one who understood him and saw the "real" Joe, the pain behind the laughs, she also puts herself in the position of the only one who can truly love "the real Joe."

As a result, I can see why she would characterize the situation as one where she would give up everything for him - to help him out, to save him from himself - especially if she had told herself she was the only one who could get through to him. Psychologically, a lot of women are drawn to guys they want to "fix." It makes them feel special to think that they can save a guy when no one else can; it makes them feel needed and important. It also puts the woman in a position of power in a way that a strong lady like Stevie would find appealing, but that may have made Joe uncomfortable. While they were both so hardcore into drugs, though, there was no way she could save anybody. She was kidding herself, but to this day, I'm not sure she really recognizes that.

And I think, at the time, Joe didn't really want Stevie to "save" him, and that's really why he left her in such an ignominious and careless fashion. "When you walk out that door, you cease to exist," he told her, getting a big laugh from the buddies he was hanging out with.... but ending it with her forever.

MikeA

04-23-2009, 01:10 PM

They don't call it "dope" for nothing do they!

TimothyBFan

04-23-2009, 03:26 PM

And I think, at the time, Joe didn't really want Stevie to "save" him, and that's really why he left her in such an ignominious and careless fashion. "When you walk out that door, you cease to exist," he told her, getting a big laugh from the buddies he was hanging out with.... but ending it with her forever.

Wow, that's harsh!! What a shame. Is there an article somewhere that claims this is really how it happened? Would love to read more about them back then. I know we've rehashed this a couple of times but I find myself intrigued every time this subject comes forward again.

sodascouts

04-23-2009, 03:53 PM

Well, Joe's never confirmed it, but here's what Stevie said (C&Ped from another post):

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991

"What happened at the end was I was getting ready to cut two songs with Waddy Wachtel producing and we only had two nights to rehearse and Joe had been off in New Zealand or something and he came down about one or two in the morning or something and he was real good friends with everyone in my band. That would have been fine any other night but I was really angry with what Joe had done because he completely screwed up that session. He just had everyone dying laughing because he just tells a hundred jokes and everyone was just rolling in the floor laughing and I was going “this is not fair” because he is not being sensitive at all to this whole situation and “you know I would give up anything for you, even my dammed career for you if he was serious enough."

I had a limousine and I asked Joe if he wanted to take me home or me to come home with him and he said, “Well, I didn’t tell you this but I’m leaving for Australia like tonight and I have to pack, so I’m just going to get a ride home with Waddy.”

And I said “Ok” and started walking towards the door, and I turned around and said, “Joe I don’t like where this relationship is going 'cause it’s not going anywhere and I don’t want to do it anymore.” And I started walking towards the door and he said, “Well, you know, if you walk out the door, you basically cease to exist.” And I just didn't stop walking."

ticky

04-23-2009, 03:57 PM

At that time Joe said he was "living the rock and roll lifestyle" and I imagine the careless attitude was partly fueled by the drugs and partly due to the fact I doubt he truly was as committed to her as she claims was to him. It wasn't till the death of his close friend, John Belushi, that he recognized the fact he HAD a problem (according to the Howard Stern interview in '05). I think he's pretty sorry and regrets a lot of that aloofness and cruelty now looking back on it based on a lot of his reactions to mentions of his past indiscretions. I think it's really embarrassing to him and a lot of the kindness and grace he shows to his fans and public now is an attempt to redeem himself, that and just the fact that he is such a nice guy and truly loves and appreciates his fans.
As far as that part of his life pertains to Stevie and their past relationship, I have no idea not being party to that part of his or her life *G* But Im sure he tried to make amends.

TimothyBFan

04-24-2009, 09:15 AM

Love this stuff!! What a soap opera!!

Another question, I don't know if maybe it has already been answered somewhere before. She is still on very good terms with Don and her and Lindsey, even tho they have their moments, seem to be good together and able to work together. Have her and Joe ever made amends? Do they ever see each other or are they friends again? And I kinda wonder why, if he was the love of her life, after his divorces, she didn't try to reconnect with him, or maybe she did and it just didn't work because the relationship was so toxic because of the drugs and alcohol?

ticky

04-24-2009, 12:23 PM

As far as I know they remain friends, in fact Joe even said so in the Mark Lane interview. That's when he said she was a "good witch, laugh laugh.."

sodascouts

04-24-2009, 01:57 PM

Joe and Stevie seem to be on friendly terms, but it's true that she isn't as close to him as she is to Don and Lindsey.

Of course, her relationship with Lindsey to this day is tempestuous, but they work together and so naturally would be closer.

Don and Stevie, on the other hand, may not see each other as much but often call each other and try hard to keep in touch. When she speaks of her relationship with Don, it's in the present tense. "He's one of my best friends, and he's there for me." When she speaks of her relationship with Joe, it's in the past.

I don't know why reconnection didn't seem to take place on the level it has with Don. I guess only Stevie and Joe know the answer to that! I would speculate there's a level of awkwardness with Joe that isn't there with Don, considering the way it ended.

sodascouts

04-24-2009, 09:37 PM

Look what a friend of mine just posted on Facebook! What a coincidence! This is especially cool because photos of Joe with Stevie are very rare. I only know of one other.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/misc/JoeStevie.jpg

AzEaglesFan

04-24-2009, 10:00 PM

Soda the picture you posted is the one in the current People Mag. I had never seen it before

ticky

04-24-2009, 10:26 PM

Its in the current People? Is there an article that goes with it?

AzEaglesFan

04-24-2009, 10:28 PM

Not really an article just a couple of pages of pictures with comments. It is this weeks issue, the guy from the Craig's list is on the cover

sodascouts

06-02-2011, 01:11 PM

Reviving this old thread because I just found out a new tidbit!

As some of you know, Dave Stewart (formerly of the Eurythmics) produced Stevie's new album and co-wrote some songs with her. Well, he told a story to Howard Stern that I didn't know!

Turns out the song he co-wrote with Tom Petty, "Don't Come Around Here No More," was inspired by Stevie!

Now, here's the story:

Stevie and Joe were in the midst of a fight and had temporarily broken up. The Eurythmics happened to be playing in town that night and Stevie invited Dave to a party, where they had a one-night stand. The next morning, apparently regretting her actions, she shut him down when he talked about getting together again and said "Don't come around here no more." She then got back with Joe. lol

There's an alternate version of the story where she said those words to Joe when Joe came looking for her and she was with Dave... not sure which is true, but it's interesting nonetheless!

Brooke

06-02-2011, 03:45 PM

Yup, interesting! I bet Joe and Dave both tell the story and it was the other one that got told "don't come around here no more"! :lol:

WalshFan88

06-02-2011, 11:33 PM

Interesting! :hilarious:

TimothyBFan

06-03-2011, 08:35 AM

Another one for Stevie. :shock: :hilarious:

Prettymaid

06-03-2011, 08:48 AM

Yeah really!!! How can she work with all of these guys and it not seem weird? That's showbiz I guess!

sodascouts

06-03-2011, 10:27 PM

I've sometimes wondered if she ever comes up in conversation between Joe and Don.

WalshFan88

06-04-2011, 12:20 AM

I've sometimes wondered if she ever comes up in conversation between Joe and Don.

I would guess that it has....maybe not though.

sodascouts

06-04-2011, 02:01 AM

Well, I can see how it would be awkward, lol.

WalshFan88

06-04-2011, 03:15 AM

Well, I can see how it would be awkward, lol.

No kidding! :hilarious:

sodascouts

06-10-2011, 11:41 PM

Some Stevie fans banded together to get a tape of Stevie's demos off Ebay and found a real treasure - a never-before-circulated demo that has been dubbed "Priest of Nothing." Why am I posting this here? Because the demo consists of Stevie singing her own lyrics over Joe's instrumental pieces "Innertube" and "Theme from Boat Weirdos"!

You can find two versions of it here:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=47577

How cool is this???????

WalshFan88

06-11-2011, 12:27 AM

VERY, very cool!!! Listening to them now! Love it!

sodascouts

06-11-2011, 01:07 AM

I've listened several times. Stevie sounds a bit rough but I don't care - just the fact that she is putting lyrics to Joe's tunes is super-cool!

WalshFan88

06-11-2011, 01:21 AM

I've listened several times. Stevie sounds a bit rough but I don't care - just the fact that she is putting lyrics to Joe's tunes is super-cool!

Agreed! :)

sodascouts

06-13-2011, 01:43 PM

Now the two versions of "Priest of Nothing" are up on YouTube, for those who prefer streaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ-ZSWaX1T4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80MWMTuJCDs&feature=related

sodascouts

06-14-2011, 10:44 AM

I notice one of the lyrics is, "So she turned her head... and walked away." Considering the context, I wouldn't be surprised if she nabbed that from Joe's "Walk Away"!

mikebise

08-23-2011, 03:55 PM

Hi! I'm the guy who bought the Stevie tapes off eBay and posted them. I thought y'all might want a little more background behind "Priest Of Nothing".

First off, it was on a cassette marked "Sharon's Tape: Various SLN 1984 Demos". "Sharon" is Stevie's back-up singer, Sharon Celani, and "SLN" is, of course, Stevie Nicks. The songs aren't labeled, so "Priest Of Nothing" is just what I can up with after agonizing for a long time. Bad, fan made-up titles on unreleased Stevie songs is a pet peeve of mine, and here I had to come up with one. Considering different interviews in which Stevie has talked about Joe, I think "Priest Of Nothing" is still the best guess.

A friend I first shared these songs with helped me track down the Joe instrumentals that are the music behind Stevie's words and voice.

Although the cassette is from 1984, Stevie probably wrote her lyrics in the Summer of 1983, when she and Joe were on tour. Evidence? Well, at her concert here in Dallas on 09/05/1983 at Reunion Arena (where Joe opened for her, of course), before the final song, "Rhiannon", Stevie dedicated it "to Mr. Joe Walsh! Can he play? Yes, he can! [sings] Can he play?! YES, HE CAN!!!"

Very recently, Stevie's hand-written lyrics from 1983 of "Priest Of Nothing" have also surfaced.

Also: I got from this seller about 50 unreleased recordings in total of Stevie's from 1984-1987, plus 4 unreleased demos of Tom Petty's from 1985-1986 that Stevie sings on. NONE of the released versions of these songs contain Stevie's vocals on the final product, so these versions are completely unheard of before. Does anyone know of a good Heartbreakers fan site where I might be able to share these maybe for possible trades of concerts with Stevie in them? (Yes, I only care about Stevie and her music).

TimothyBFan

08-24-2011, 08:57 AM

Very interesting Mike. Unfortunately our resident Stevie expert is in Niagara Falls seeing Glenn right now. I'm sure when she gets back, she will have plenty to say and ask about this information and these tapes. Thanks for sharing it all with us!!!

sodascouts

08-26-2011, 12:03 AM

Hey Mike! Welcome to my Eagles board! (Mike and I already know each other from our mutual Mac fandom and The Ledge (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/).) Mike, I know you know me as the webmistress of BuckinghamNicks.net (http://www.buckinghamnicks.net), but after I saw Don Henley with Stevie on the "Two Voices" tour back in 2005 I got hooked on the Eagles as well. You see here one of the fruits of that. ;)

Dang, has it really been over six years since that Nicks/Henley show in Chicago that started all of this? Wow, time flies!

Sorry I can't help you with the Tom Petty site, Mike - I'm afraid I don't know any more about that than you do!

At any rate, what you and the others did for the Stevie fandom by sharing such rarities is quite wonderful, as I've told you before. You guys rock!!! Thank you for sharing more info with Joe fans as well.

mikebise

08-27-2011, 07:35 PM

"She sees no evil... And she speaks no evil! SHE'S IN LOVE!!!!! And I don't think that they say anything to anyone..."

So, Joe just HATES Stevie now, right? That's depressing.

sodascouts

08-27-2011, 07:38 PM

Why do you think Joe hates Stevie?

sodascouts

08-30-2011, 02:55 PM

Well, let me throw in my two cents, at least.

I see no reason to believe Joe hates Stevie at this point. In fact, they performed together at that infamous bat-mitzvah for David Brooks' daughter (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=24243&page=3) in 2005, and Joe spoke kindly of her in an interview about ten years ago. Yeah, he talked trash about her in the nineties and made fun of her back then, but that's the past. Stevie has obviously forgiven him (assuming she heard about what he was saying. I kind of hope she didn't). However, he doesn't seem to view their relationship with the same rose-colored glasses Stevie has been wearing. Stevie doesn't seem to recognize how dysfunctional they were - that even her own descriptions of the relationship make it seem like a morass of co-dependency rather than a grand romance.

She's toned down the Walsh-talk since she and Lindsey got close again a few months ago, I noticed. Hmm!