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Koala
06-20-2011, 10:18 AM
Found at another forum the setlist:


Seven Bridges Road
How Long
Take It To The Limit
Hotel California
Peaceful Easy Feeling
I Can't Tell You Why
Witchy Woman
Lyin' Eyes
Long Road Out Of Eden
Walk Away
The Boys Of Summer
In The City
The Long Run
Life's Been Good
Funk # 49
Heartache Tonight
Life In The Fast Lane
Take It Easy
Rocky Mountain Way
Desperado

EasyFeeling
06-20-2011, 01:37 PM
Thanks Koala! S**t, still no WITW and BOML :-x

sodascouts
06-20-2011, 02:19 PM
Thanks Koala! S**t, still no WITW and BOML :-x

Looks like you German folks are going to get the shorter setlist after all. :(

At least the guys are sounding great!

Freypower
06-20-2011, 05:33 PM
Thanks Koala! S**t, still no WITW and BOML :-x

Or NMCD.

Freypower
06-21-2011, 08:06 PM
Just looking at this setlist I wonder why The Long Run has been moved so far down? It used to be after Lyin' Eyes.

I wish if the setlist is going to be so truncated that they would move one of Glenn's songs further down too so the Don-Joe dominance of the second half of it could be broken somewhat.

And as OOTN has been dropped altogether, can I say that I would prefer OOTN to The Long Run.

Brooke
06-22-2011, 09:59 AM
OOTN is gone? Ooooooooooh nooooooooooo! :worried:

I'm afraid they are turning in to that "nostalgia band" they once said wouldn't happen. They are cutting songs like grass. Before long they'll be down to a one hour performance! This is not what I wanted to see for the 40th anniversary tour. :worried:

Freypower
06-22-2011, 06:32 PM
OOTN is gone? Ooooooooooh nooooooooooo! :worried:

I'm afraid they are turning in to that "nostalgia band" they once said wouldn't happen. They are cutting songs like grass. Before long they'll be down to a one hour performance! This is not what I wanted to see for the 40th anniversary tour. :worried:

I couldn't agree with you more.

But they don't drop the solo songs, do they?

WalshFan88
06-22-2011, 06:46 PM
I have to say I've been kind of disappointed lately with what I've been hearing. The cutting of songs, Don flipping off the media (which is really immature and disgusts me), the whole "grapes that don't fall off" thing, and the interviews I've read lately about them kind of disappoint me.

Perhaps it would be better for me to revisit the "Dream Setlist" or the thread where we talk about what should be in a setlist but I think they need to rework it somewhat and throw in some of those tunes again. As far as solo numbers, IMO every guy (including Glenn and Tim) should have one solo number in a show but not 3 or 4 and only have it be 2 guys. As I've said many times before, and not to beat the dead horse into the ground, but I can't imagine going to an Eagles show and not hearing "Life's Been Good" or "The Boys Of Summer". Also as I've said before I much prefer the live version with the Eagles of LBG to the studio solo track. But I ALSO can't imagine going to an Eagles show and not hearing "One Of These Nights" or "Already Gone" though. That's sacrilegious to me as an Eagles fan. But I digress. But like the Rolling Stones say, "You Can't Always Get What You Want". That applies here.

I will say, I will have to see how things turn out and end up before I buy a ticket if they happen to come to the area on the Anniversary tour. I am NOT at all a fan of the current setlist.

Just my .02c here. :hilarious:

TimothyBFan
06-23-2011, 07:37 AM
I couldn't agree with you more.

But they don't drop the solo songs, do they?

My thoughts exactly!!! Very disappointed in the setlist right now.



I have to say I've been kind of disappointed lately with what I've been hearing. The cutting of songs, Don flipping off the media (which is really immature and disgusts me), the whole "grapes that don't fall off" thing, and the interviews I've read lately about them kind of disappoint me.

Perhaps it would be better for me to revisit the "Dream Setlist" or the thread where we talk about what should be in a setlist but I think they need to rework it somewhat and throw in some of those tunes again. As far as solo numbers, IMO every guy (including Glenn and Tim) should have one solo number in a show but not 3 or 4 and only have it be 2 guys. As I've said many times before, and not to beat the dead horse into the ground, but I can't imagine going to an Eagles show and not hearing "Life's Been Good" or "The Boys Of Summer". Also as I've said before I much prefer the live version with the Eagles of LBG to the studio solo track. But I ALSO can't imagine going to an Eagles show and not hearing "One Of These Nights" or "Already Gone" though. That's sacrilegious to me as an Eagles fan. But I digress. But like the Rolling Stones say, "You Can't Always Get What You Want". That applies here.

I will say, I will have to see how things turn out and end up before I buy a ticket if they happen to come to the area on the Anniversary tour. I am NOT at all a fan of the current setlist.

I couldn't agree more, especially with the first paragraph and the highlighted quotes!!! It's a little disheartening right now.

WalshFan88
06-23-2011, 07:54 AM
I couldn't agree more, especially with the first paragraph and the highlighted quotes!!! It's a little disheartening right now.

Yep. It comes across in a lot of ways, but to me it seems like a mixture of arrogance and immaturity and just disgusts me. I'll be honest I did laugh when I first saw TG put that "photo" of Don as her avatar (mainly because she put it as her avatar and not about the photo itself), but when I first saw that picture I was very disgusted and still am today. Plus from what I've heard about his personality just disappoints me and the way he acts in public. I've done a lot of "sticking up" so to speak for Don on the music forums I'm on, most there have the opinion that he is a polarizing figure and a an a-hole. Regardless of his personality or egotism, he is still my favorite singer of all time and definitely my favorite Eagles vocalist and always will be. And I'm not trying to single out Don here in this, for all I know all 4 of them are guilty but it's Don that I've been hearing about it seems like. Especially with the pic.

Not to go too off topic but my "dream" setlist would be one solo song from each guy. If I had it my way, it'd be Don doing "Boys Of Summer", Glenn doing "Smuggler's Blues", Joe doing "Life's Been Good", and Tim doing something like "Secular Praise". And the rest of it needs to be Eagles tunes. I do want one solo song from each member but I'd probably settle for just LBG from Joe but that wouldn't be fair. :hilarious: Also, I think the tunes from LROOE need to be kept in balance with their older stuff. As much as I hate to say it, they are known for their 70s music the most and in my opinion it should be played the most. 3 or so LROOE songs is fine, but I'd much rather hear "One Of These Nights", "Already Gone", or "New Kid In Town" over "Long Road Out Of Eden". Sorry, but it's true. Balance is good. They need to play the hits, that's why people come and pay to see them. Just my opinion. No disrespect for LROOE.

EasyFeeling
06-23-2011, 11:40 AM
Well, I sold my ticket today for 130 Euros. I paid 150 Euros, never paid so much money for a concert. And then I get only a shortened setlist and they dropped WITW and BOML, sorry but that's extortionate! I was lucky because someone wrote me who has never seen them and was looking for a good seat.

It's sad, really. When I bought the ticket I thought I would get at least the same as last time. I'm not willing to pay more money for less.

TimothyBFan
06-23-2011, 12:38 PM
EF--I'm so sorry to hear that but I can totally understand what you are saying. Seems to be the general opinion right now and that is heart-breaking to me.

EasyFeeling
06-23-2011, 12:45 PM
Thanks for understanding. It was not easy, believe me.

sodascouts
06-23-2011, 01:04 PM
You're not going to Hamburg, EF?? But you were so looking forward to it! What a shame! :(

sodascouts
06-23-2011, 01:10 PM
But they don't drop the solo songs, do they?

Yeah, I wish if they were going to let the axe fall, they'd get rid of solo songs and not Eagles ones. Maybe they figure the solo songs play better live? I don't know, but it doesn't make much sense to me.

Still, if the Eagles come near me, I'm going to see them. Who knows how much longer they'll be touring?

Brooke
06-23-2011, 01:14 PM
EF, I'm so sorry to hear you aren't going! :-(

luvthelighthouse
06-23-2011, 01:18 PM
Still, if the Eagles come near me, I'm going to see them. Who knows how much longer they'll be touring?

I know we've been saying that for years... and one day it will happen, they will stop touring... but I am going to hold firm on my thoughts that there will be a huge 40th US tour next year.

I have a wonderful thought that they will give us a nice FULL set list and it will be glorious!!! I think back to Chicago 2008... I was at the show the following night that most of the Borderers where there... that was an amazing show! So many new songs, so many songs period, so much energy, I think it was a four song encore... I'm mean, that's what I'm looking for again. Can history repeat itself?

I feel bad that so many fans are getting the shortened set list this leg.

Koala
06-23-2011, 01:27 PM
Wow, they lost alot of fans... only half of the 15000 were there.

Well, I sold my ticket today for 130 Euros. I paid 150 Euros, never paid so much money for a concert. And then I get only a shortened setlist and they dropped WITW and BOML, sorry but that's extortionate! I was lucky because someone wrote me who has never seen them and was looking for a good seat.

It's sad, really. When I bought the ticket I thought I would get at least the same as last time. I'm not willing to pay more money for less.
Very sad indeed!:-(
But I can well understand your reasons!

EasyFeeling
06-23-2011, 01:30 PM
Yes Soda, I was looking forward to it... until I've read about the set list. I was thinking and thinking, not sure if I still REALLY want to go and made that decision. Maybe I'll regret it, who knows. Maybe I'll never get to see them again. But it is what it is. Its too little what I get for the high ticket price. And not only that... I have to pay for hotel and train. Ok, I knew that, but its all too much. I've already sent Koala a PM, too bad I don't meet her. :sad: Hope you don't hate me for my decision.

Brooke
06-23-2011, 01:32 PM
I thought I posted here this morning, but hmmmmm......

I agree, too. If they are going to drop songs, make it solo songs. I would love to go to their solo shows to see solo songs, but at Eagles concerts, lets have Eagles songs. Or like WF said, one solo song each.

We are all used to hearing about 30 songs at a concert. Or we were. I understand they are getting older. Maybe they just physically can't do that many any more. But if not, drop the solo stuff. Not the Eagles hits. And it would be nice to see a couple off of LROOE. Don seems to be the only one willing to get out and tour solo. He is putting out the new albums and singing with others on theirs. Evidently he's not ready to call it quits. Tim did a small tour, but Joe and Glenn....................should I say it? Fading in to obscurity? :sad:

If they are going to tour in the states again, I think I would go see them one more time. I hope they don't decide to do the Vegas deal and just perform out there at casinos like Elton John and Celine Dion, cause I probably won't be able to go that far.

ETA: :idea: Maybe all this talk should have it's own thread. Most of these posts should go in it. Oh fearless leader............

Koala
06-23-2011, 01:37 PM
:sad: Hope you don't hate me for my decision.
Of course not!:hug:

EasyFeeling
06-23-2011, 01:40 PM
Phew, thank you :hug: We are so off topic here LOL Sorry guys.

Annabel
06-23-2011, 01:50 PM
EF, it must have been a very hard decision for you to make. I can understand all your reasons though. Both Carole and myself, with my family, have to stay in a hotel overnight too, Carole has train fares, we have petrol (gas) costs and then a small train fare to get us to the festival.
My hubby has taken a day holiday from work as our 2 girls have no school on the Friday, as it's the year 11's leaving prom that day, so he is taking DD2 out for the day, and evening, and feeding her too. DD1 is coming with me.:ack:

However the one big difference is, for our ticket money we get 11 hours of music at the festival. Okay only 2 hours of the Eagles probably, but we haven't had to pay the full £70 for the ticket for their 2 hours. We had both said that we would have been prepared to though, of course at the time we weren't aware it was going to be a shorter show. :eyebrow:

It's a pity that the shorter show hasn't had a smaller price attached to it!

ETA Oops helping to stay off topic. Sorry !!!

TimothyBFan
06-23-2011, 02:15 PM
ETA: :idea: Maybe all this talk should have it's own thread. Most of these posts should go in it. Oh fearless leader............

Along with the discussion in the Cologne thread also I suppose. I have more to say on the subject in the Cologne thread but I shall wait till it's all sorted into it's own neat little thread. :hilarious: Sorry Nancy. We've disorganized your board once again!

Freypower
06-23-2011, 07:03 PM
Are the German venues indoors or outdoors? If they are indoors there is no excuse for shorter setlists.

Freypower
06-23-2011, 07:10 PM
I thought I posted here this morning, but hmmmmm......

I agree, too. If they are going to drop songs, make it solo songs. I would love to go to their solo shows to see solo songs, but at Eagles concerts, lets have Eagles songs. Or like WF said, one solo song each.

We are all used to hearing about 30 songs at a concert. Or we were. I understand they are getting older. Maybe they just physically can't do that many any more. But if not, drop the solo stuff. Not the Eagles hits. And it would be nice to see a couple off of LROOE. Don seems to be the only one willing to get out and tour solo. He is putting out the new albums and singing with others on theirs. Evidently he's not ready to call it quits. Tim did a small tour, but Joe and Glenn....................should I say it? Fading in to obscurity? :sad:

If they are going to tour in the states again, I think I would go see them one more time. I hope they don't decide to do the Vegas deal and just perform out there at casinos like Elton John and Celine Dion, cause I probably won't be able to go that far.

ETA: :idea: Maybe all this talk should have it's own thread. Most of these posts should go in it. Oh fearless leader............

Joe will have a new album out soon & will probably tour for it. Glenn, on the other hand....

I fail to understand why Funk #49, Walk Away and Dirty Laundry are seen as so essential given that only one member of the band played on each of them. I suppose now the setlist has become the Don Henley show with guest star Joe Walsh that is what it's about - showcasing Don & Joe, not 'the Eagles'. This also applies to a couple of my least favourite Eagles songs, The Long Run & In The City, which are retained forever & ever because they showcase Don & Joe.

And I haven't even mentioned the way TIE has been downgraded so that it apparently isn't even as important as RMW. That is WRONG. (Apart from the other issue of whether or not TIE should actually be played last of all, which I think it should).

As I have said on numerous occasions LROOE should be represented more than the solo songs which have been there since 1994.

Really if Glenn isn't interested in doing this any more, if he believes his own contributions to Eagles shows are so unnecessary, perhaps it's time he seriously considered calling a halt. I don't think I'm exaggerating here. He puts them all at the beginning & then he has his big break before throwing us two bones, Heartache Tonight & TIE, near the end. The setlist should be more balanced in terms of who is singing what at what time in the set.

sodascouts
06-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Along with the discussion in the Cologne thread also I suppose. I have more to say on the subject in the Cologne thread but I shall wait till it's all sorted into it's own neat little thread. :hilarious: Sorry Nancy. We've disorganized your board once again!

Done! :)

WalshFan88
06-23-2011, 07:42 PM
I have a wonderful thought that they will give us a nice FULL set list and it will be glorious!!! I think back to Chicago 2008... I was at the show the following night that most of the Borderers where there... that was an amazing show! So many new songs, so many songs period, so much energy, I think it was a four song encore... I'm mean, that's what I'm looking for again. Can history repeat itself?


Agreed. I was at the Chicago 2008 show (I went on the Sep 25th show) and it was amazing. I wish they'd go back to that type of show/setlist. I'd be there in a heartbeat if so.

Koala
06-24-2011, 12:30 AM
Are the German venues indoors or outdoors? If they are indoors there is no excuse for shorter setlists.
The concerts in Wiesbaden, Munich and Berlin are outdoor concerts, in Hamburg and Cologne they are indoor.

EaglesKiwi
06-24-2011, 05:52 AM
Oh darn, I just posted in another thread (Cologne, I think!) and it would have fitted better here. Sorry!

I have been an Eagles fan for 10 years. I never thought I would get to see them live. I was so very thrilled to see them, and a 3 hour concert was just incredible.:partytime::nod:

If the only way I could get to see them again was a 2 hour concert (NZ or Australia), then absolutely I would be there. I might wish I could get more, but I'd still be over the moon to get anything.

I certainly have my own Dream Setlist (which is totally unrealistic :hilarious:), but I'd be happy with pretty much anything they played (ok, maybe not The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks). Beggars can't be choosers! (And guys, I am down on my knees begging you to come back Down Under again!). :bow::pray::sigh:

TimothyBFan
06-24-2011, 09:23 AM
First I want to agree with LTLH & WF--I'm very thankful I got to see the show in 2008 in Chicago that included the FULL setlist including the 2 encores!! The boys were in top form those nights and I'm sure the other Borders, Maleah, PM & Soda would all agree that it couldn't have been a better show. It was my first Eagles show, after waiting over 30 years to finally see one, it was well worth the money. And so was the show in Cincinnati at that price. Those were the only times I've seen them and I will never regret the fact that I spent the money--even tho that same money would of most likely bought about 10 concert tickets for other artists. It was truly a dream come true for me but that being said, I made a vow to never spend that kind of money again for any concert, not even an Eagles concert....well until I almost had a front row ticket dropped in my lap, then I lost my resolve. It didn't work out, so I was able to stick to my word.

Now onto 2011----Ticket prices have increased a bit and the shows have apparently been cut by 1/3. To be truthful, don't mind that the show has been shortened, I understand why maybe they need to, but I do have a problem with the songs that are left. And I really have a problem with the fact that ticket prices HAVE NOT been cut. Did I expect them to be? Truthfully, probably not for the simple fact that I do believe it's all about the money for Irving and the Eagles and not about the fans that have made them what they are today. That disheartens me.

And to add insult to injury, these last couple of weeks, I will admit, have been a bit of an eye opener for me. I truthfully don't feel I'm the only one (some have said so here on the board as well) that is a bit put off by their behavior. The interviews that haven't been exactly nice, the stories about their demands with food & rugs in bathrooms, etc., and then there was the picture. Again, I'm no prude and I've done it myself BUT I truly expect more from these guys than that kind of behavior. Come on, you're a rock star and tho it shouldn't happen and it's not pleasant, don't tell me you're not use to it and the best way to make the press leave you alone is show some decorum-don't give them reason to talk you down and hound you by flipping them off. And when I see members of this board selling their tickets off to concerts because they were expecting a longer show, etc... that speaks volumes to me. JMO tho---again, what do I know.

As for the shortened setlist---I couldn't agree more with what FP posted here a few post back... It does seem to have almost become the Don & Joe show with special guest Timothy B Schmit on bass & Glenn Frey on guitar and co-vocals. Not acceptable FOR ME. That's not to say that others are or will be perfectly ok with that.

I will ALWAYS love these guys, after 35+ years, how can I not? And after spending a big chunk on my allowance as a child/teen on albums & posters and my adult life on memorabilia, tickets, programs, etc... I think I've earned the right to speak my mind and let them know I'm disappointed in them right now.

Again, I will agree with FP, maybe it's time to step away if it's become such a chore to do a decent show for a decent price and deal with the press and public.

I'll step down from my http://bestsmileys.com/angry2/6.gif now and apologize if I have offended anyone or have been out of line in my opinion.

luvthelighthouse
06-24-2011, 10:16 AM
TBF, I mostly agree with you.

However, I am not offended by the bird flipping photo. I've had enough on some days where I may whip out a double bird! :hilarious: Also, we only just discovered the "firm grapes" news. That doesn't mean it hasn't been going on for years! Their performance waivers seem to be closely guarded... but I bet there is a stuff in the there that would certainly escalate them to diva status. Earned or not is not for me to say... I mean, all these performers have crazy stuff in agreements. To me, all the food and drinks and plush stuff they ask for in their dressing rooms when they aren't even in them for more than an hour is so wasteful, IMO.

I totally agree, the Don and Joe show doesn't work for me either! I think the second half is way too Joe heavy. I wish Joe were more spread around. I do not care how well the solo stuff plays live, I want EAGLES songs! One from each of their solo careers would be fine... but that's enough for me.

I said it earlier and I'll say it again... shortened show should mean lower ticket price. Why should people pay the same for a 2 hour show that others paid for a 3 hr show? It's wrong!

I don't doubt that they love their fans. You can tell when the fans are into the show, they guys get more into their performance. I do feel they are out of touch w/the everyman. I mean, how can they be in touch, they've been millionaires for decades. I don't think they get that what they are asking for is peoples two week paychecks! Yes, I know, if you can't pay it, don't go... but then many hardcore fans would miss out on the live expierence.

I could go on, but I'll stop...

sodascouts
06-24-2011, 01:35 PM
First off, I too am disappointed by the shorter set. I feel that if, God forbid, they are truly physically unable to do a longer show they should drop more solo songs instead of Eagles songs, and - even more importantly - charge less money for a shorter show. That's only fair.

As far as the behavioral stuff, though, I'm not shocked that they want things "just so" when it comes to their food and backstage area. That's par for the course with rock stars. As for Don flipping the bird - gee whiz, Don being cranky, how shocking (NOT)! It's more vulgar and immature than usual, but it's not like he was caught carjacking or urinating on young girls in a bathtub (Chuck Berry, I'm looking at you), torturing prostitutes (hey, Rick James), into child porn (hey, Gary Glitter) or sleeps with young boys (hello, Michael Jackson). How about the members of Led Zeppelin shoving fish up a woman's privates? That's the kind of behavior I find truly appalling. In the grand scheme of things, is flipping the bird at the press really so horrific?

Lame? Yes. Deal-breaker for my fandom? Heck no.

But that's just me. Everyone's reactions are equally valid.

One more thing: I truly do believe they care about their fans. With regard to Glenn, I know that first-hand. Like LTL, I believe they're just a bit out of touch when it comes to money.

TimothyBFan
06-24-2011, 01:59 PM
As far as the behavioral stuff, though, I'm not shocked that they want things "just so" when it comes to their food and backstage area. That's par for the course with rock stars. As for Don flipping the bird - gee whiz, Don being cranky, how shocking (NOT)! It's more vulgar and immature than usual, but it's not like he was caught carjacking or urinating on young girls in a bathtub (Chuck Berry, I'm looking at you), torturing prostitutes (hey, Rick James), into child porn (hey, Gary Glitter) or sleeps with young boys (hello, Michael Jackson). How about the members of Led Zeppelin shoving fish up a woman's privates? That's the kind of behavior I find truly appalling. In the grand scheme of things, is flipping the bird at the press really so horrific?

I totally agree about rock stars but like I said somewhere else, I expect that from Led Zeppelin, Ozzy, Motley Crue, Rick James, etc... doesn't make it right of course. But I guess I hold the members of the Eagles in a different "class" of rock star and expect better.

As for the rider regarding backstage food. Everyone's different--take Van Halen and their no green M & M's, they said they put that there just to make sure that the venues were reading the whole thing because if they were missing that, then they could be missing something that could potentially be dangerous or deadly while on stage.

The Foo Fighters road manager has always done some ridiculous stuff in their rider also but basically just for entertainment. This years tour rider is a 52 page coloring book. David Grohl says yes they ask for steak and potatoes but not for them, but for the road crew who work 18 hour days. He says the band would just as soon eat bologna sandwiches.

I feel that when you are asking for "grapes that don't fall off the stem", you're pretty much acting like a prima donna-I don't care if it's something they've been doing for 35 years or more, it's still ridiculous.... Like the old saying says, "if he jumps off a bridge, would you do it also?". Just because there's other bands doing it, doesn't make it right and I feel it's ridiculous for those bands also to act like that. You're a flippin' rock star making millions--be thankful and stop acting like spoiled brats!


Lame? Yes. Deal-breaker for my fandom? Heck no.


I agree--I have been a fan for decades now and I don't plan on jumping ship now. I simply love their music and that's what really counts. But I have every right to say I will no longer put more money from concerts in their pockets until they wisen up and realize that the common person, while paying for groceries, mortgages, car payments, college educations, has better things to spend hundreds of dollars on. I wish I could, but it just isn't realistic to me or millions of others fan I feel safe to say. I will, however, drop $20.00 for a new cd or dvd but for a $200.00-$1,500.00 concert ticket... hell no!!

sodascouts
06-24-2011, 03:44 PM
About the grapes thing... I know it sounds diva. In fact, when I first read about it, I laughed out loud. However, upon further consideration, perhaps it's not so ridiculous after all if they've had bad grape experiences in the past. Maybe they had a tray of mushy, nasty grapes and were told "Well, they seemed fresh to us." This is an objective way to ensure they will always get super-fresh grapes. After all...
"The easiest and best way to pick the freshest grapes in your local market is to hold a bunch by the stem. Shake gently - if grapes drop off the stem, they have been in storage for too long. If the grapes are firmly attached, are plump and bright, they are fresh."

http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf672835.tip.html
If it's just a way to make sure all the grapes undergo a "freshness test," it's similar to Van Halen's "no green M&Ms" stipulation mentioned by Willie in that there's more to it than meets the eye... only the "Grape Test" is much less silly and wasteful. I mourn all the trashed green M&Ms! lol

I razzed the guys about the grapes as much as anyone when that story broke, but still, it's not like they're asking for their grapes to be peeled. ;)

Freypower
06-24-2011, 09:54 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is disillusioned with current events.

However my disillusionment dates from last November-December when I saw them and DID see the full show for which I am grateful. Since then it has all been downhill for me personally. It isn't PEW - it's worse than that.

I was hoping the Asian & European tours would revive my interests but it got off to a bad start in Taiwan with that appalling press conference. I can't help feeling Glenn should have put a stop to it. He wasn't happy & I felt it. And since then... not even any photos.

And now in Europe it's worse. A shortened Don & Joe heavy setlist. I know how superficial this is going to sound but there are STILL hardly any photos. I just looked at the Berlin thread & again there is a photo of Don. There have hardly been any photos of Glenn & not one of them is even good enough to make into an avatar (the one LTL admired notwithstanding; Wiesbaden was the exception). I said this was superficial. But I'm disconnected enough, knowing what has happened to the setlist, without there not even being photos to make me feel better. Glenn sings most of How Long, for heaven's sake. Shouldn't he be in some photos? This is back to the days of the F1 tour when TLR was the first song so of course Don was in the photos. Again I am sorry for this; this is MY problem, not anyone else's.

So what is there to hang on to and beyond that what is there to look forward to? The answer is, I don't know.

I appreciate EK's enthusiasm & desire to see them again no matter what; but I can't see them coming down here again & I will not pay $500 plus for that setlist.

As far as their behaviour & demands; as I think LTL said they've always had the demands; it's only now the press have made them public. They are entitled to their comfort & needs at their age, I suppose. I wasn't that bothered by Don giving the finger. He sometimes is not a very nice person, let's be honest. Neither is Glenn, I am sure, but Glenn usually turns on the charm; except for that press conference.

I wish they had released a DVD in 2008 or 2009 when all the new songs were still fresh & still in the setlist & I would have had that to cherish. As it was by the time I got to see those songs I already knew them & the band were already playing around with them & dropping them whenever they saw fit. And what are we left with now? How Long, a 70s throwback, & the title track, which I LOVE, but guess what: it's a showcase for Don & Joe and that's why it remains in the setlist (never mind that Glenn does some great singing in it which is always overlooked). I know that some people here would prefer WITW which although Don dominates it also features the band's harmonies & more introspective side. Some people prefer that to the polemics. I still like Dirty Laundry, but you know, I get the point. As for Tim... well... it's sad. That's all.

I could go on here but it would mainly be about some of my personal feelings, specifically about Glenn, and I am not going to derail the topic. Excuse the rant but I had to say some of that.

NB: I still love the band. I still love Glenn, if I can say that. But I think they (and I) are coming to the end.

luvthelighthouse
06-24-2011, 10:26 PM
FP, I'm sorry you feel you may be coming to an end w/the guys. I wanted to tell you this...

I was a fan of the Eagles before I knew who they were. (We've discussed that before) However, a few years ago, I watching/listening to youtube of them and fell in love! I read everything I could on them, joined the boards, posted like crazy etc.

My very first show was Chicago 2008. It was magical! BBF, WITW, Somebody... it was, well...WOW! I long show, full of new material!!! I couldn't get enough Eagles.

Then a year ago my CD player in my car broke... which is where I mainly listened to them. I wasn't coming here participating as much, because life was just full w/family things. I fell away from the boys for a while. I was a little bored of the same old set list and nothing really new happening from show to show... the big excitement was wondering which jokes Glenn would or wouldn't say that night. The set list changed by dropping too many LROOE songs and I felt they were doing what they didn't want to do... only playing the oldies.

My point is, when you are fan of the Eagles, you always find your way back! They become a part of you and their songs evoke memories and feelings you didn't even know were there. They may do things we are not fond of... but that's okay, they are human. You may not feel the same way and it's okay to step back from them... but they'll always have a part of you.

WalshFan88
06-24-2011, 10:49 PM
My point is, when you are fan of the Eagles, you always find your way back! They become a part of you and their songs evoke memories and feelings you didn't even know were there. They may do things we are not fond of... but that's okay, they are human. You may not feel the same way and it's okay to step back from them... but they'll always have a part of you.

Absolutely agreed! They are the soundtrack of my life. Chicago 2008 was my first show as well and I have only grown as a fan since then. I might not always like what they do or go to a show, but I'll always be an Eagles fan. But I can't help but to be disappointed by recent events. But that's just me. I love the Eagles though. Don Henley is my favorite songwriter, singer, and lyricist of all time. He may not be the most humble guy or nicest person, but putting that aside he's always been my favorite singer (of all time and definitely in the Eagles) and always will be. And Joe Walsh is my favorite guitarist of all time and in the Eagles (I also admire Don Felder too). Joe is the reason I started playing guitar. His playing on the HC album is how it all started for me. He's my biggest hero and inspiration and the reason I'm here.

EaglesKiwi
06-25-2011, 05:45 AM
One more comment on the grapes/tour demands: they may not be coming from the band members themselves. They could be coming from either Irving's team OR from the local promoter.

Annabel
06-25-2011, 10:37 AM
One more comment on the grapes/tour demands: they may not be coming from the band members themselves. They could be coming from either Irving's team OR from the local promoter.

or it could be to check people are reading the rider. :shrug:

Ive always been a dreamer
06-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Well, I guess I’ll weigh in on this topic as well. I certainly understand and agree that I don’t like this shortened set list. I’ve said many times before that I think the guys should be doing a three-hour show for the cost of their tickets. However, I’m also hoping that they are doing the shorter set list just for this leg of the tour. Right now, I think the band is in a transition period, and that, hopefully, they will put on incredible shows for their 40th anniversary year that will blow their fans away. As far as the ticket prices, of course, we would all love to pay lower prices, but that is just not likely to happen with this band. As I have maintained before, they are simply taking advantage of our capitalistic society and, sorry, but I don’t consider it to be illegal or immoral for them to charge whatever the market will bear. Nor does it make those who are willing to pay those prices bad people – it just makes them lucky as far as I’m concerned. At the very least, I don’t believe capitalism is evil and I accept that it is what it is and beyond my control. I also respect each individual’s decision about whether or not they want to go to any shows. However, I think it is very unfair to claim that these guys don’t care about their fans because of the price they charge for a show. I totally agree with Soda and ltl here - I’m one that happens to believe they care a lot about their fans.

As for the next issue – WOW! What a difference a few decades make … talk about some extremes in attitudes. We go from a time when it was considered cool to get totally wasted on alcohol and drugs and trashing hotel rooms to now where someone is considered a bad person for flipping the bird or requesting fresh fruit. It seems to me that there is room for some middle ground here. As I said earlier, these guys are rock stars and don't pretend to be anything more. If they had, then I’d be first in line to criticize their hypocrisy. I will say that I do have a far different standard for rock stars than I do for members of the clergy. But, without defending their behavior, as far as I’m concerned, all rock stars are created equal.

Freypower
06-25-2011, 06:57 PM
One more comment on the grapes/tour demands: they may not be coming from the band members themselves. They could be coming from either Irving's team OR from the local promoter.

Surely Irving's team as you put it are requesting what the band wants. It is the band who are going to be using the fruit, carpet, etc. That is what 'riders' are; the band's requests for food & drink. I very much doubt that the local promoter is even involved.

EaglesKiwi
06-27-2011, 05:04 AM
Surely Irving's team as you put it are requesting what the band wants. It is the band who are going to be using the fruit, carpet, etc. That is what 'riders' are; the band's requests for food & drink. I very much doubt that the local promoter is even involved.
You could be absolutely right, FP - but from my experience working in 5-star hotels, it was frequently the local contact who made requests in addition to whatever was coming from the guests themselves (whether entertainers, heads of state & their entourages or whatever - even tour groups from different countries). And the specific wording doesn't necessarily come from the guests.

WalshFan88
06-27-2011, 05:52 AM
Here's my thoughts on this whole thing. Bear with me for a long-winded post.

First, I'll always be an Eagles fan. Period! If you don't think I am a true Eagles fan, you do not know me at all. These guys have changed my life with their album "Hotel California". It inspired me to play guitar and do something with my life. I was in a deep sad dark place when I first heard this album, on the verge of suicide. Joe and Felder's guitar playing lit a fire in me and gave me hope and inspiration. Don and Glenn's lyrics spoke to me and touched my heart and soul. The guitar solos on the title track took my breath away and made me want to play guitar like them, my heroes. It makes me so happy to listen to that album. I play it all the time when I need some motivation. It is the soundtrack of my life. It saved my life. No doubt about it. That album is the reason I'm still here today. I thank them all very much.

Second, I am rather disappointed by their actions and what I've been hearing, as I've said previously. I'm also not one to use excuses and so the whole 'but they are rockstars" bit does nothing for me. Also the Eagles aren't that type of band to where I would expect that kind of behavior from. As Willie said, I'd expect it from Axl Rose of GnR or maybe even Mick Jagger of The Stones but I don't expect it from the Eagles. Sure, the Eagles partied but they really weren't that out of control compared to other rock bands. It seems shocking to me of everything I've been reading and seeing. I'm not too happy TBH.

Third, the Don photo does disgust me. I'm sorry, but that is lame and immature. I find it very childish. I think some have calmed down about it here because at first everyone seemed upset too but now really are changing their thoughts on it and seem like it's no big deal. For me I still think the same of it. It's immature. He is how old?! I'm only 22 and I sure as heck wouldn't do that. Again, I'm not going to give him any excuses either. It's uncalled for IMO.

Fourth, the setlists are just not up to snuff. I'm sorry but if I'm paying that much money to go see them, I want to get my money's worth and hear the songs I want to hear. The current setlist is highly unsatisfactory for me. I want ONE solo song EACH. The rest of them need to be Eagles songs. Also keep the LROOE numbers in check with the hits and the older numbers. People know them by their hits and their 70s work. That's what I want to hear. Not LROOE front to back. If people want that, then when they play two nights, one needs to be more of the old stuff and one be more of modern stuff and people can choose which show they want to see. It doesn't need to be said again that I'm not the biggest LROOE fan, but that's beside the point. The point is, if I'm paying money to see them, I want to hear what I want, and I want the full set and I want them to play the songs I love. I want AG, NKIT, OOTN, BOML, etc back in the setlist. I also would like to see them play VOL and GOI and some of the lesser played songs again. But those two are not requirements unlike the others I've mentioned. But I'm not gonna pay their prices for the shows they are doing now. I hope all of you can understand.

Last, the whole rider thing with the grapes MAY or MAY NOT be the direct doing of the band. But if it IS the direct doing of the band and it's not just "so they will pay attention to the rider" but if they are that picky about it, I'm sorry but that is lame. I find stuff like that very disappointing. I sure don't expect it from these guys. Also with the whole interview thing that went bad, it just leaves me feeling disappointed, especially in Don. Don will always be my favorite singer and definitely my favorite Eagles vocalist, but his personality, ego, and attitude really do irritate and disgust me at times. He has a streak of immaturity that I find very disappointing to me as a fan of his music/work.

I'm an Eagles fan and always will be an Eagles fan but I can't help but to feel disappointed about recent events. Also I hope the setlists change before their tour next year. As far as paying ticket prices, I will have to see. It may not be a deal breaker to all of you and maybe it would be different if I hadn't seen them before and saw that killer Chicago 2008 show and known how great it was. Think of it like this. Say you love Spaghetti for instance. And you have just ate at the finest Italian restaurant in the world. Now, go home and eat a can of Spaghetti-Os and tell me you aren't disappointed, frustrated, and unfulfilled. Same deal. There is no going back. I'm sorry but if I went to one of these recent shows with this setlist, I'd feel like I only get fulfilled part way/unsatisfied. And if I don't go, I don't think it's fair to say that I am not a true Eagles fan (not saying anyone has). Now if they do a more fulfilling set, I'll be first in line. I love the Eagles and no matter what, I will ALWAYS be a fan. But you can't expect me to pay these ticket prices and be happy with the setlist and what they are doing now and say that I'm not a fan if I don't go. And as far as "this may be the last time they tour", if that is true, that's all the more reason for me NOT to go. I want to remember them by that great Chicago 3 hour show and not some watered down show where they didn't play my favorites. Just my opinion. And I respect others as well.

Rant over. :hilarious:

TimothyBFan
06-27-2011, 08:28 AM
One more point I would like to make and then I promise I'm done on this subject (perhaps) and will just agree to disagree on this one.

How many times have we seen in print or live interviews where one of them says, "we've grown up" or "we've matured" or "we're all family men and have quit doing that stuff"? So even they admit they aren't the "rock stars" they once were.

I only hope that they are/were able to explain that picture, etc... to their younger, impressionable children when they're asked "why is Daddy or Uncle Don doing that in that picture?". Just saying...

Acting mature doesn't mean you have to act like a clergy man. I for one would NOT want any of my Rock Gods to act that way! :hilarious:

Troubadour
06-27-2011, 09:11 AM
I think sometimes though that our perceptions are perhaps not accurate or fair. Why is it okay for Ozzy or any of The Who band members or The Stones to flip off press, and not for Don Henley? Obviously it's not the smartest thing to do, but it was a moment that got caught on camera. I can think of numerous rock stars, actors and other 'celebrities' who have physically assaulted the paparazzi. The Eagles have never been angels and never claimed to be. (In fact, when you read in detail about some of their escapades, they're as bad as those of Led Zep or The Stones.) I think a lot of our perceptions come from the style of music they make. More laid-back, for want of a better word, mellow, soft rock with beautiful lyrics. For the same reasons, I have a perception of James Taylor being a sort of mellow, intelligent, generally lovely, shy and sweet human being... and yet he was one of the biggest junkies around through the '70s and '80s! Even Waddy Wachtel said to James: "You're lucky you're a f**king folk guy, man. If you were a rock star, you'd have been dead a long time ago. You can't act the way you do and get away with it." I can appreciate the disappointment over the photo of Don, and I don't particularly condone it... but I'm willing to forgive him for what was presumably a moment of frustration. How many of us have done it while driving, for example? It ain't clever, it ain't pretty, but we're all human. Would we have been more willing to laugh it off if Joe had done the same thing? Some of you may still have been disappointed, but I'm willing to bet that the response may have been slightly different in that situation.

Moving on, I absolutely sympathise with the concerns about ticket prices. One of the main justifications for the high prices when the LROOE tour started came simply from Glenn: "We put on a three and a half hour show." Well, now that you don't, how do you justify charging the same amount of money? It isn't fair. Unfortunately though, as Dreamer said, it's the business and, if they can get people to pay that amount of money for tickets, they'll continue to charge it. The whole ticketing thing makes me mad - but it's certainly not just the Eagles. I totally understand if they cannot continue to play three and a half hour shows (they have been hinting at this for a while) but it would be nice if they did fans the service of lowering the prices a little to compensate for this. I will be very surprised if this happens, though.

WalshFan88
06-27-2011, 02:00 PM
One more point I would like to make and then I promise I'm done on this subject (perhaps) and will just agree to disagree on this one.

How many times have we seen in print or live interviews where one of them says, "we've grown up" or "we've matured" or "we're all family men and have quit doing that stuff"? So even they admit they aren't the "rock stars" they once were.

I only hope that they are/were able to explain that picture, etc... to their younger, impressionable children when they're asked "why is Daddy or Uncle Don doing that in that picture?". Just saying...

Acting mature doesn't mean you have to act like a clergy man. I for one would NOT want any of my Rock Gods to act that way! :hilarious:

Fully agree TBF! I also have one more thing to say as well...

I didn't say it was okay for the Stones or GnR to do it. I just said it wouldn't shock me if they did. It's unexpected of the Eagles, at least for me. As far as if Joe, Glenn, or Tim did that, I certainly would feel the same way. Believe me, I'm not giving Don a hard time at all. :)

Henley Honey
06-27-2011, 06:33 PM
Here's my thoughts on this whole thing. Bear with me for a long-winded post.

First, I'll always be an Eagles fan. Period! If you don't think I am a true Eagles fan, you do not know me at all. These guys have changed my life with their album "Hotel California". It inspired me to play guitar and do something with my life. I was in a deep sad dark place when I first heard this album, on the verge of suicide. Joe and Felder's guitar playing lit a fire in me and gave me hope and inspiration. Don and Glenn's lyrics spoke to me and touched my heart and soul. The guitar solos on the title track took my breath away and made me want to play guitar like them, my heroes. It makes me so happy to listen to that album. I play it all the time when I need some motivation. It is the soundtrack of my life. It saved my life. No doubt about it. That album is the reason I'm still here today. I thank them all very much.


I don't think you can put a price on what the Eagles' songs have done for and meant to Austin and so many other people. Thanks for sharing that with us, Austin. I'm glad they were able to do that for you. They are the literal soundtrack for millions of people's lives and while they are musicians, lyricists, composers and artists, the band at its core is a business. It's what they do for a living. They have a finite amount of time to tour and the ticket prices are going to reflect that. Simple supply and demand. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it fair. But its business.

Freypower
06-27-2011, 06:47 PM
Here's my thoughts on this whole thing. Bear with me for a long-winded post.


Fourth, the setlists are just not up to snuff. I'm sorry but if I'm paying that much money to go see them, I want to get my money's worth and hear the songs I want to hear. The current setlist is highly unsatisfactory for me. I want ONE solo song EACH. The rest of them need to be Eagles songs. Also keep the LROOE numbers in check with the hits and the older numbers. People know them by their hits and their 70s work. That's what I want to hear. Not LROOE front to back. If people want that, then when they play two nights, one needs to be more of the old stuff and one be more of modern stuff and people can choose which show they want to see. It doesn't need to be said again that I'm not the biggest LROOE fan, but that's beside the point. The point is, if I'm paying money to see them, I want to hear what I want, and I want the full set and I want them to play the songs I love. I want AG, NKIT, OOTN, BOML, etc back in the setlist. I also would like to see them play VOL and GOI and some of the lesser played songs again. But those two are not requirements unlike the others I've mentioned. But I'm not gonna pay their prices for the shows they are doing now. I hope all of you can understand.



For a start you keep saying you don't want to hear LROOE front to back. Well, you're not. They have dropped EVERY SONG from it except for How Long and the title track. I thought that would make you happy. For me, I am deeply disappointed that they have just apparently discarded those songs. I still think they never gave Somebody in particular a chance to become the crowd pleaser that it could have. I am also disappointed that they never tried playing some of the other songs live.

I have made it clear that I am unhappy with the endless retention of the solo songs at the expense of Eagles songs and I am also unhappy with the retention of a couple of Eagles songs that are not favourites of mine. I have said that I think Don & Joe are too dominant in the second half & that Glenn's songs are wasted because they are all at the beginning. I'm unhappy with the downgrading of Take It Easy. But what can I do? I don't think I wll be seeing them again. So I guess I should not complain about it.

WalshFan88
06-27-2011, 07:05 PM
For a start you keep saying you don't want to hear LROOE front to back. Well, you're not. They have dropped EVERY SONG from it except for How Long and the title track. I thought that would make you happy. For me, I am deeply disappointed that they have just apparently discarded those songs. I still think they never gave Somebody in particular a chance to become the crowd pleaser that it could have. I am also disappointed that they never tried playing some of the other songs live.

I know - I'm talking about the fact if they do have a big setlist again. I'd just prefer hearing AG, NKIT, OOTN, JD, VOL, GOI, etc.

WalshFan88
06-27-2011, 10:23 PM
I don't think you can put a price on what the Eagles' songs have done for and meant to Austin and so many other people. Thanks for sharing that with us, Austin. I'm glad they were able to do that for you. They are the literal soundtrack for millions of people's lives and while they are musicians, lyricists, composers and artists, the band at its core is a business. It's what they do for a living. They have a finite amount of time to tour and the ticket prices are going to reflect that. Simple supply and demand. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it fair. But its business.

Thanks! Their music means a lot to me.

And I'm fine with the ticket prices. That isn't the issue for me. I'd gladly pay their prices but only if it were a full show like what I'm used to (3 hr full set). The issue is paying the money for such a small set.

TimothyBFan
06-28-2011, 07:59 AM
They have dropped EVERY SONG from it except for How Long and the title track. I thought that would make you happy. For me, I am deeply disappointed that they have just apparently discarded those songs. I still think they never gave Somebody in particular a chance to become the crowd pleaser that it could have. I am also disappointed that they never tried playing some of the other songs live.



I completely agree that Somebody could have been a hit. That song ROCKS!! I hadn't even really paid attention to it till I saw it live the first time and it was quite the eye opener!

As for all the songs except How Long and LROOE being dropped....I agree that it's to much. However, I don't want them to play all of them but I would rather see LROOE dropped and replaced by NMCD & WITW and, since it's short, NMWITW. I really miss WITW & NMWITW. I can actually do without IDWTHA and GOTC.

But I also understand they have to play the hits so I see why they must drop LROOE songs.

I guess my biggest complaint isn't so much the setlist, tho I do believe it should be mixed and changed now and then. Obviously when you have that many hits, you can't play them all in one concert. (Tho wouldn't that be awesome?)

My 2 complaints about the concerts at this point:
1) To much $$-ESPECIALLY for a shortened setlist.
2) To many and unevenly disbursed solo songs-ESPECIALLY for a shortened setlist.

Prettymaid
06-28-2011, 08:42 AM
I don't know if the shortened setlist is here to stay or not. I'm not even sure what I wish for. Selfishly we all want them to play 3+ hours every time, but I think they've made it clear that they can't do that anymore. Last summer they tried touring with Keith Urban and the Dixie Chicks as a means to shorten their shows. This summer they're choosing mostly outdoor venues and festivals to keep it short. Either way they are going to have disappointed fans, but I guess in the long run I have to wish for whatever is going to keep them healthy and being able to do shows at all.

Troubadour
06-28-2011, 08:46 AM
I agree, Cathy. And you know what? A 20-song set list is not actually a short set list! I was looking at other set lists and Metallica played 18 songs recently, Bon Jovi played 17... I think we have just been spoilt with these three and a half hour shows!

As I said in my earlier post, though, I do think charging the same price for a shorter set list is rather unfair. Their justification for the high prices was that they were playing for so long. Now they are not, it's a bit harder to justify the cost of tickets.

Brooke
06-28-2011, 04:30 PM
I agree too. Shorter set list, lower price. I'm hoping these shorter sets are temporary. Hopefully they will take it up a notch or two for a 40th anniversary tour next year.

I checked Keith Urban's prices. The best seats are $111.75 including fees. The last set list I could find was 20 songs. He does do a platinum seats deal which are $149. His shows last 2 hours.

Kenny Chesney's tickets are about the same.

tequila girl
06-28-2011, 04:36 PM
With all due respect Brooke...Keith Urban & Kenny Chesney are virtually (to me anyway) unknown in the UK and certainly haven't been around as long as the Eagles...No comparison :)

Brooke
06-28-2011, 04:43 PM
Well, that's true, but they are hot here in the US.

I was just trying to come up with some kind of comparison. Who would compare?

Prettymaid
06-28-2011, 05:19 PM
Nobody compares!!! :hilarious: :yay: :nope:

sodascouts
06-29-2011, 01:03 AM
The sad truth is that it's not just the Eagles charging this much. Just about any act that can charge this much will. I'm sure there are a few exceptions but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I hate to say it, but it's very likely that if people like Keith Urban could charge more and still sell tickets, they would.

EaglesKiwi
06-29-2011, 05:15 AM
I don't know of any other act doing 3hour+ shows... so it's kind of hard to compare prices.

I will keep my fingers crossed for great shows next year. Until I hear otherwise!!

sodascouts
06-29-2011, 04:57 PM
Fleetwood Mac plays for that long, and during their last tour tickets were usually $150 before fees. That was in 2009. When/if they tour again, I expect to see it get even pricier, although I doubt they will shorten the show. Stevie and Lindsey are both doing solo tours and don't seem to be slowing down at all.

I think it's safe to say that it wasn't compassion for their fans that kept Fleetwood Mac from charging as much as the Eagles.... more like they thought they couldn't charge that much and still sell well. They charged as much as they thought the market would bear. They're also managed by Azoff, after all.

Freypower
06-29-2011, 06:47 PM
Fleetwood Mac plays for that long, and during their last tour tickets were usually $150 before fees. That was in 2009. When/if they tour again, I expect to see it get even pricier, although I doubt they will shorten the show. Stevie and Lindsey are both doing solo tours and don't seem to be slowing down at all.

I think it's safe to say that it wasn't compassion for their fans that kept Fleetwood Mac from charging as much as the Eagles.... more like they thought they couldn't charge that much and still sell well. They charged as much as they thought the market would bear. They're also managed by Azoff, after all.

My Stevie ticket cost A$215 (Platinum) as opposed to the Eagles' $550 or whatever it was.

Koala
06-30-2011, 08:22 AM
Now my humble opinion on this topic.
I think we were up to now simply spoilt which other band or musician plays, otherwise, 3 hours since many years? I know there are a few but not much and they have also been mentioned. A very good 2 hours show, is better in my eyes as a longer show in that the band / musician, vocally and musically can not give their best for whatever reason e.g. voice problems! This also would want nobody!

GlennLover
07-02-2011, 04:39 PM
As far as I know, when the Eagles play a show with the shortened setlist, there are 2 or more other acts on the program, so fans are getting more for their money than just the Eagles performance. Not that it justifies such high prices though. I agree that we have been spoiled by the 3 hr shows.

Also, Don Felder revealed in his book that a certain percentage was taken right off the top to go to charity. Of course he didn't mention how much. He was just complaining that it went to Don & Glenn's charities without him having a say about it. I have no idea if this is common practise with other artists. Just food for thought. I'm not condoning the high prices!

sodascouts
07-02-2011, 11:24 PM
Yes, I hope everybody here loves Walden Woods because you've all contributed to its upkeep! lol

(Slider - I hope you don't mind, but I've moved your post here (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1331)).

Annabel
07-03-2011, 02:25 PM
Nancy, if I can do it for Ikea with using my family card, then I can certainly do it for Walden Woods. :thumbsup::hilarious:

Glennsallnighter
07-03-2011, 03:33 PM
My signed Eagles guitar was entirely in aid of Walden Woods! I must own at least a copse!