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whitcap
06-04-2012, 07:06 PM
I can't believe I forgot about this one! Randy's most recent album, Love Me Or Leave Me Alone, was released 8 years ago last Friday (June 1). The album is comprised of previously unreleased songs that were recorded between 1978 and 1999. I'm quite fond of this album and I love all of the songs on it. I'll look for some of the songs on youtube and post them here later today.

whitcap
06-04-2012, 07:46 PM
I was able to find 7 of the 17 songs from this album on youtube :)

My How Things Have Changed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnWC77kM4oc

Midnight Rain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Sv1bkAsNo

Ain't Gonna Take It:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXuR0ZzYn0

Love Me Or Leave Me Alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxpg_oWCapg

In A Minute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dodjkG1Nto

Lonely Alone (the video is mistitled):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXjAi5R4DeY

and Take It Easy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUN-c72k9Rg

sodascouts
06-04-2012, 09:38 PM
My How Things Have Changed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnWC77kM4oc

I first heard this song on Mesiner, Swan, and Rich. I couldn't detect much of a difference between the two versions, although it's been a while. I do like the song a lot!


Midnight Rain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Sv1bkAsNo

This is one of my favorites. Dramatic and a great melody - of course it's well sung. I don't understand why this was an outtake!


In A Minute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dodjkG1Nto

This is another one that I don't understand why it wasn't put on an album. It's so catchy!

whitcap
06-06-2012, 03:32 PM
I first heard this song on Mesiner, Swan, and Rich. I couldn't detect much of a difference between the two versions, although it's been a while. I do like the song a lot!

There isn't much difference between the two. The music is a bit different and this version is a little longer. Unless you listen to them back to back its hard to detect a difference at all.



This is one of my favorites. Dramatic and a great melody - of course it's well sung. I don't understand why this was an outtake!



This is another one that I don't understand why it wasn't put on an album. It's so catchy!

These songs, along with several others on the album, sound like they were recorded in the late 80s or early 90s. Since Randy didn't release any solo music around that time it may just be that whatever album they were intended for never came to fruition.

Grey Sadler
01-11-2013, 11:28 PM
:partytime::partytime:Just got this on iTunes and am listening as I type! :partytime::partytime:

sodascouts
01-12-2013, 06:12 PM
Any thoughts, GS?

Grey Sadler
01-12-2013, 09:13 PM
I've gotta listen to it again & prepare my thoughts :hilarious:

Grey Sadler
01-13-2013, 10:49 PM
OK, I see by our EOC notes that Randy wrote/cowrote most of these...not bad!! Wish that a) I could find some dates on when they were recorded and b) there were some more of these gems locked away somewhere...now I can truly say I celebrate the man's entire catalog!!

I particularly liked the title track, Midnight Rain, Salt in My Tears, When the Dam Breaks...and Randy's take on Take it Easy :thumbsup:

sodascouts
01-16-2013, 06:19 PM
I also like the songs you picked with the exception of "Take It Easy" - Randy's version comes nowhere near the original, IMHO. The rest of the songs you list are really enjoyable, though, and it would be cool if some more surfaced.

Outlawman13
03-17-2013, 01:55 PM
I'm listening to some of the songs on this album and I LOVE THIS ALBUM TO BITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Randy is my second favvie Eagle of all time and his voice is so sensational. I love it.

sodascouts
03-17-2013, 02:42 PM
i just listened to this recently for Randy's birthday. It's a real shame that none of these songs were ever released while he was still active!

My fave album of his, though, is One More Song.

sodascouts
06-01-2014, 03:48 PM
Love Me or Leave Me Alone was released 10 years ago today!

Ive always been a dreamer
06-01-2014, 08:42 PM
Happy 10th Anniversary to Love Me or Leave Me Alone!

NightMistBlue
02-09-2015, 06:37 PM
I really enjoy the whole album and wish there was more info about who played on it, when it was recorded, etc.

One of my favorite songs is Randy's "One Less Fool." It could have been a hit, I would think - it sounds commercial, but very passionate too.

What puzzles me is that the song cuts off before the end. I imagine it's a technical flaw in the CD process, does anyone else's copy have this problem?

Funk 50
02-13-2015, 05:40 PM
I actually bought this album twice. I bought a Japanese release, very nicely packaged but mainly because it had extra tracks (total 14) then a few months later it was re-released with even more tracks (17).

The 17 track version has got the track timings all over the place. Some tracks end very abruptly (no fade out), Midnight Rain has 40 seconds of silence after it finishes.

I like, One Less Fool too, NightMistBlue. A bit too unpolished to be released really but definitely a potential hit. If you PM me, I could send you an mp3 of the full (3:40min) track.


Times are for; 17t / 14t
01 Long Time Blue 349 / 347
02 In A Minute 424 / 424
03 Don't Keep It Inside 452 / 451
04 Love Me Or Leave Me Alone 258 / 258
05 Midnight Rain 506 (last 40 sec is silence) / NA
06 My How Things Have Changed 400 / 401
07 Walk Of Life 249 / 246
08 Trust Your Heart 330 / 325
09 Leaving on Tuesday 506 / 508
10 Salt In My Tears 326 / NA
11 All Alone In Paradise 409 / 421
12 Ain't Gonna Take It 409 / 411
13 Lonely Alone 355 / 357
14 Take It Easy 339 / 337
15 One Less Fool 327 / 340
16 Take It to The Limit (L) 438 / 436
17 When The Damn Breaks 356 / NA


I haven't any recording dates but I have got some track players. I must admit, I haven't heard of most of these;

Tracks 1 to 4 + 15:
d - M Derosier
b - G Shelton
k - B Lizotte, G Reeves
g - J Morton, R Fisher
s - G Reeves (15)

Track 6:
d - J Molo
b - R Meisner
g - B Swan
sg - V Monnett
v - Meisner, Swan, C Rich Jnr

Tracks 7-9 + 11-13 + 16:
d - R Wikso
b - R Meisner (I presume)
k - S Stewart
g - K Griffey
ag - M St Nicholas
bv - Rosalee + All

It's a bit sketchy as the players are only listed under some tracks. I think Steve Porcaro (Walk Of Life) and Spencer Davies (Take It Easy) are on the album too.

I hope this isn't Randy's last album. Sadly, his post Eagles career has been a procession of failed projects. :-(

NightMistBlue
02-17-2015, 03:10 PM
Drummer Michael Desrosier - my goodness, another connection to Heart. Randy seems to have been friends with a number of people connected with that band, several of whom played on Randy's 1982 solo record.

Thank you for the info, Funk. I was impressed with a lot of the guitar playing.

Delilah
06-06-2017, 09:09 AM
A little late, but Happy Anniversary to Love Me or Leave Me Alone!

There's a bit of conflicting info on what year it was 1st released--2003 or 2004? Anyway, I wasn't sure what to expect from this but there are some catchy melodic tunes here! Midnight Rain, One Less Fool, When the Dam Breaks are my favorites. I really like Long Time Blue also. I think the title track could have been a hit. Randy didn't write it but he sure belts it out. There are some production glitches but I don't think these were meant to be the final product.

Anyway, this album shows some gems that highlight Randy's singing and songwriting! :singer::thumbsup:

NightMistBlue
06-06-2017, 10:47 AM
There is much to enjoy and treasure.

Quoting the Funk: "Some tracks end very abruptly (no fade out), Midnight Rain has 40 seconds of silence after it finishes." Is that a mastering problem?

Funk 50
06-07-2017, 06:07 AM
One of the tedious functions of making a record is to listen to the final product all the way through before it goes to the presses.

I'm sure top artists like the Eagles wouldn't trust this task to anybody other than themselves. It's obvious that this wasn't done on the 17 track version of Love Me Or Leave Me Alone. (other versions seem to be fine). As it's his name on the disc, it's got to be Randy's responsibility. If as not involved in the release, somebody would have signed it off as ready to be mass produced.


Joe put ILBT's on his You Bought It You Name It album to see if any execs at his record company would bother listening to his album before he released it. They didn't :grin:

Phil Collins' solo version of Behind The Lines came from the final product run through of Genesis's Duke album. They listened to it at double speed to ease the tedium and Phil was rather taken with the opening track played at double speed, so he turned it into a solo track. :)

NightMistBlue
06-07-2017, 10:51 AM
Thank you, Funk. I wondered if it was the fault of whoever did the Japanese mastering. Have you ever read engineer Ken Caillat's book on the recording of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours? Lindsey Buckingham cared obsessively about every detail of the record, even how it was manufactured.

To be fair, Randy was reportedly having health issues with his heart at the time, so maybe he wasn't able to oversee all aspects of the project. I know what it's like to be part of a team effort, and if someone makes a bad decision, it makes everyone look bad. That's why I prefer to work alone. :)

I'm going to listen to You Bought It You Name It now.

Delilah
06-07-2017, 11:21 AM
I actually bought this album twice. I bought a Japanese release, very nicely packaged but mainly because it had extra tracks (total 14) then a few months later it was re-released with even more tracks (17).

The 17 track version has got the track timings all over the place. Some tracks end very abruptly (no fade out), Midnight Rain has 40 seconds of silence after it finishes.


I hope this isn't Randy's last album. Sadly, his post Eagles career has been a procession of failed projects. :-(

These releases and re-releases are kind of confusing. According to Discogs, the Rev-Ola music label released a 15-track version which does not include "Midnight Rain" or "When the Dam Breaks." The Sonic Past music label, owned by Randy's friend Joey Stec, released a 17-track version that includes MR and WTDB. These releases occurred in 2004 and 2003 respectively. It was my understanding there are no timing issues/glitches with the Rev-Ola album (I haven't heard it myself). I'm guessing any Japanese releases may have re-mastered the sound but not messed with the original timing. Could it have to do with fitting 17 songs on an LP?

I wouldn't consider all of Randy's solo projects as "failed." Both his solo albums in the 80s charted on the Top 200 and made it to the top 100. He had top 40 hits from both of those albums. He was popular enough to have toured in Japan. Various artists from major acts like KISS, The Rolling Stones, The Who etc. not to mention more current bands had less commercial success when they went solo. Of course in my view he should made it much bigger given his talent. It's a shame he didn't do any music videos to give him critical exposure.

NightMistBlue
06-07-2017, 01:09 PM
Thank you, D. I didn't realize until just now that Rev-Ola is a UK company, based in Glasgow. They also issued a Drivin' Dynamics compilation. Someone there must be a Randy fan :)

In the early days of MTV (1982-83 in my neck o' the woods), they often played a video for "Hearts on Fire." Don't trust my memory, but I think it was slightly different than the filmed performance available on YouTube today. I seem to remember a blonde model-type woman and guys (including Randy?) sitting at a bar. But it was primarily a performance video.

Speculation: the "video" with Kim Carnes was apparently what was shown for Randy's appearance on the Midnight Special tv show in December 1980. The "video" for HOF is so similar (and features a live vocal, which of course is very unusual for a music video) that I wonder if it could have been the other performance for that show.

Now I've rambled on and gone way off topic. Sorry!

East Texas Girl
06-07-2017, 01:39 PM
Interesting info, guys. Thanks

Delilah
06-07-2017, 02:24 PM
In the early days of MTV (1982-83 in my neck o' the woods), they often played a video for "Hearts on Fire." Don't trust my memory, but I think it was slightly different than the filmed performance available on YouTube today. I seem to remember a blonde model-type woman and guys (including Randy?) sitting at a bar. But it was primarily a performance video.

Speculation: the "video" with Kim Carnes was apparently what was shown for Randy's appearance on the Midnight Special tv show in December 1980. The "video" for HOF is so similar (and features a live vocal, which of course is very unusual for a music video) that I wonder if it could have been the other performance for that show.

Now I've rambled on and gone way off topic. Sorry!

I've wondered if the HOF video was ever shown on MTV; I myself don't remember it. Wouldn't it have been past its prime by 1982? I think that sometimes MTV showed "older" videos to fill its schedule (in the early days).

I really think Randy would have benefitted from a non-stage performance video(s) for his 3rd solo album. I wonder why it didn't happen--shyness, lack of $ from his record company? Ok now I'm rambling, :laugh:

NightMistBlue
06-07-2017, 03:26 PM
HOF was several years past its release date by then, yes. But MTV definitely played it because I remember it. They also played even older songs by Madness, Split Enz and The Police.

Yes, I wonder why there wasn't (that we know of, anyway) a video for the 1982 album. He had a top 40 single. Maybe Epic just wasn't supportive? They dropped him in 1983 or '84.

O Randy, son of Scottsbluff, we need you to write a book! Please! If you don't tell your own story, it will forever go untold...

Funk 50
06-08-2017, 01:35 PM
I'm guessing any Japanese releases may have re-mastered the sound but not messed with the original timing. Could it have to do with fitting 17 songs on an LP?

As I stated, the last 40 seconds of Midnight Rain (track 5) is silence. I can't think of any reasonable justification for that. Joey Stec is named as Executive producer on both versions I have. A Japanese 2003 version (14 tracks) and the 2004 digital remaster (17 tracks).



I wouldn't consider all of Randy's solo projects as "failed."

I'm not talking success as in sales and chart positions. I label Randy's post Eagles projects as failures as none of them lasted very long or produced much music. In retrospect, they all lacked promise and were ultimately disappointing. (not enough Randy!)

I've read lots of articles and comments, that blame Glenn Frey for Randy's exit from Eagles. I believe it was Glenn's outstanding leadership that allowed Randy to thrive within the Eagles. I get the impression that, the musicians that Randy formed bands with, after leaving the Eagles, tended to use Randy's ability and acclaim to further their own ends rather than creating an environment for Randy's wonderful talents to shine. Just my biased opinion :thumbsup:

Delilah
06-08-2017, 03:54 PM
Ok, fair enough. I suppose everyone has his own idea of what constitutes "success" and "failure" and maybe something in between. I do wish there had been more output from Randy as well as properly produced material released at the right time. Still, it's very nice to have this album at all.

NightMistBlue
06-29-2017, 11:05 AM
I actually bought this album twice. I bought a Japanese release, very nicely packaged but mainly because it had extra tracks (total 14) then a few months later it was re-released with even more tracks (17).

The 17 track version has got the track timings all over the place. Some tracks end very abruptly (no fade out), Midnight Rain has 40 seconds of silence after it finishes.

I like, One Less Fool too, NightMistBlue. A bit too unpolished to be released really but definitely a potential hit. If you PM me, I could send you an mp3 of the full (3:40min) track.


Times are for; 17t / 14t
01 Long Time Blue 349 / 347
02 In A Minute 424 / 424
03 Don't Keep It Inside 452 / 451
04 Love Me Or Leave Me Alone 258 / 258
05 Midnight Rain 506 (last 40 sec is silence) / NA
06 My How Things Have Changed 400 / 401
07 Walk Of Life 249 / 246
08 Trust Your Heart 330 / 325
09 Leaving on Tuesday 506 / 508
10 Salt In My Tears 326 / NA
11 All Alone In Paradise 409 / 421
12 Ain't Gonna Take It 409 / 411
13 Lonely Alone 355 / 357
14 Take It Easy 339 / 337
15 One Less Fool 327 / 340
16 Take It to The Limit (L) 438 / 436
17 When The Damn Breaks 356 / NA


I haven't any recording dates but I have got some track players. I must admit, I haven't heard of most of these;

Tracks 1 to 4 + 15:
d - M Derosier
b - G Shelton
k - B Lizotte, G Reeves
g - J Morton, R Fisher
s - G Reeves (15)

Track 6:
d - J Molo
b - R Meisner
g - B Swan
sg - V Monnett
v - Meisner, Swan, C Rich Jnr

Tracks 7-9 + 11-13 + 16:
d - R Wikso
b - R Meisner (I presume)
k - S Stewart
g - K Griffey
ag - M St Nicholas
bv - Rosalee + All

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Mr. Funk, is this info about the musicians in the liner notes to the Japanese CD? In the first group listed, I recognize Brooke Lizotte and two former members of Heart, Michael Desrosier and Roger Fisher, who worked on Randy's self-titled 1982 album. The second group is from Meisner, Swan & Rich and the latter is World Classic Rockers personnel.

Delilah
06-29-2017, 02:01 PM
These album credits are tricky. I'm pretty sure I hear Richard Marx singing a background vocal on "When the Dam Breaks"; there's a female vocal as well and I don't think it's Rosalee. But there aren't any credits for the song. I thought "Lonely Alone" (#13) was just piano and vocal so I'm not sure where all the WCR people fit in. I also wondered if it's Marx singing background vocal on "All Alone in Paradise" but I could be way off. Overall the production and liner notes for this album seemed like they were done in a hurry or something.

Honestly, I thought the only song WCR contributed to was "Take It Easy" (#14) but the credits aren't even showing them! :shrug: (and "Take It to the Limit" sounds like it's from an earlier Randy live show)

Funk 50
06-30-2017, 04:56 AM
Mr. Funk, is this info about the musicians in the liner notes to the Japanese CD? In the first group listed, I recognize Brooke Lizotte and two former members of Heart, Michael Desrosier and Roger Fisher, who worked on Randy's self-titled 1982 album. The second group is from Meisner, Swan & Rich and the latter is World Classic Rockers personnel.

I probably found those album credits on-line and copied and pasted.... without crosschecking their accuracy.

The Japanese sleeve has the following info:

01 Long Time Blue
Produced by Randy Meisner / Bruce Gaitsch

02 In A Minute
Produced by Art Ford

03 Don't Keep It Inside
Produced by Randy Meisner / Bruce Gaitsch

04 Love Me Or Leave Me Alone
Produced by Art Ford
d - M Derosier
b - G Shelton
k - B Lizotte, G Reeves
g - J Morton, R Fisher

05 My How Things Have Changed
Produced by Meisner, Swan & Rich
Exec Producer Joey Stec
d - J Molo
b - R Meisner
g - B Swan
sg - V Monnett
v - Meisner, Swan, C Rich Jnr

06 Walk Of Life
Produced by Reggie Fischer

07 Trust Your Heart
Produced by Randy Meisner / Joey Stec

08 Leaving on Tuesday
Produced by Randy Meisner / Joey Stec

09 All Alone In Paradise
Produced by Steve Diamond / Randy Meisner

10 Ain't Gonna Take It
Produced by Randy Meisner / Joey Stec

11 Lonely Alone

12 Take It Easy
Produced by Ron Wilkso & Michael Monarch
d - R Wikso
k - S Stewart
g - K Griffey
ag - M St Nicholas
bv - Rosalee + All
(Randy isn't credited)

15 One Less Fool
Produced by Art Ford
d - M Derosier
b - G Shelton
k - B Lizotte, G Reeves
g - J Morton, R Fisher
sax - G Reeves

16 Take It to The Limit (L)
d - R Wikso
k - S Stewart
g - K Griffey
ag - M St Nicholas
bv - Rosalee + All
(Randy isn't credited)

Additional Musicians on the CD include;
Steve Pocaro, Alan Rich, Billy Swan, James Griffin, Randy Meisner (Bass), Spencer Davis, Rosilee, Nick St Nicholas, Steve Stewart, Michael Monarch.

Randy's Love Me Or Leave Me Alone CD is obviously cobbled together from several sources, over a considerable length of time but I don't think there is anything from the Poco / Richard Marx era.

There are no credits for Lonely Alone but it's on YouTube as a duet with Brooke Lizotte, posted by Brooke himself by the looks of it. :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKPEtKkIG-A

"Lonely Alone" sung by Randy Meisner
Writer: Glen Allen
Piano: Brooke Lizotte'
Album: Love Me or Leave Me Alone

NightMistBlue
07-01-2017, 08:54 AM
Funk, thank you so much! So there's the Art Ford connection. As you know, Art is Randy's legal conservator now. Very interesting. I had been wondering when/if they worked together. I believe Art was a drummer in a band. He's in music publishing now.

You're a font of knowledge, Mr. Funk, and I thank you.

Delilah
06-21-2018, 01:27 PM
Better late than neveró HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME ALONE!

I love how this album shows off Randyís talents but at the same time itís frustrating that it was released so late in the day. Some of these songs could have been hits at the right time. Still, Iím grateful to have this album at all.

This is the title track which has a great pop vibe and some belting vocals by Randy.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2I5ypxF6-I

East Texas Girl
06-21-2018, 01:45 PM
Thanks for the reminder, Delilah. Happy Anniversary Love Me Or Leave Me Alone!

Just so happens I was listening to this album this morning. :grin:

Delilah
06-21-2018, 02:07 PM
Cool, ETG, how timely!

So do you have a favorite? My top 3 in no particular order:

1. Long Time Blue
2. Midnight Rain (a little Bob Seger-ish)
3. One Less Fool

sodascouts
06-21-2018, 02:10 PM
One of my favorite songs is Randy's "One Less Fool." It could have been a hit, I would think - it sounds commercial, but very passionate too.

What puzzles me is that the song cuts off before the end. I imagine it's a technical flaw in the CD process, does anyone else's copy have this problem?

I just listened to this song yesterday and was really, really annoyed by that cut off! I can only assume the flaw is in the master, but they should warn people. Like you, I really like the song otherwise, especially the chorus.

scottside
06-21-2018, 02:22 PM
I just listened to this song yesterday and was really, really annoyed by that cut off! I can only assume the flaw is in the master, but they should warn people. Like you, I really like the song otherwise, especially the chorus.

I believe that all the versions of this cd (and there are several) have bed editing issues. It seems that whoever mastered this had no sense of quality control at all.

East Texas Girl
06-21-2018, 02:49 PM
My favorites are:

1. All Alone In Paradise :heart:
2. Lonely Alone
3. Long Time Blue

And my cd has all the problems that everyone has mentioned. :sad:

Delilah
06-01-2019, 01:46 PM
Happy Anniversary to Love Me or Leave Me Alone!!

Released 15 years ago, this is Randyís last ďsolo albumĒ which was a compilation of various recordings over the years. Itís truly unfortunate that some of this material was not included on a proper solo album near the time of recording. Then we would have better editing/mixing and information about who did what and when. It has received positive reviews on Amazon and for those who are interested, the album is available on Spotify and Amazon Prime. This is a definite glimpse into what was possible and what Randy was capable of.

Here is one of my favorite songs from the album, ďLong Time Blue ď co-written by Randy and Bruce Gaitsch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNe8xPJjs9g

FreyFollower
06-01-2019, 03:36 PM
Thanks for that, Delilah, I really enjoyed it! I only wish I could bring the vocal forward. I don't know the technical term, but when someone has a voice like that, you want it as clear and close as possible!

Ive always been a dreamer
06-01-2019, 04:07 PM
HAPPY 15TH ANNIVERSARY TO LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME ALONE!

Delilah
06-02-2019, 09:55 AM
Thanks for that, Delilah, I really enjoyed it! I only wish I could bring the vocal forward. I don't know the technical term, but when someone has a voice like that, you want it as clear and close as possible!

Youíre welcome, FF, Iím glad you liked the song. :smile:

sodascouts
06-02-2019, 11:11 PM
Happy anniversary! Glad we got his album - has a lot of treasures on it!