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SilverMoon
10-24-2013, 12:40 AM
Don is mentioned in two recent interviews with guitarist Joe Satriani:

http://www.ontourmonthly.com/qa-joe-satrianin-vinny-cecolindavid-huff/

OTM: I recently spoke with former Eagles guitarist Don Felder who once asked band mate Joe Walsh, “Why would you put your successful solo career on hold to join a band?” Walsh explained that it was like night and day. As a member of a band, he wasn’t responsible for everything. Do you experience the same thing with Chickenfoot?
Ironically, I am staring at a copy of Felder’s bestselling autobiography Heaven and Hell. For some reason, during the last couple of months, I’ve been on this Joe Walsh and Don Felder thing. I have been collecting vintage Fender amps. I’m a big fan of Don’s playing and I am a huge Joe Walsh fan.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/joe-satriani-2013-interview/

Satriani’s eyes light up at a random mention of former Eagles guitarist Don Felder, and he says that he’s spent the past couple of months revisiting the catalog of the legendary California band and, in particular, he’s been examining Felder’s work on those records. The conversation reveals that, at the center of everything, Satriani is still a music fan like the rest of us, searching through albums, songs and liner notes to uncover the stories.


Soda, I didn’t know which thread to post these interviews in, so I started a new one. The “Interviews and promotions” thread didn’t seem the right place.

SilverMoon
10-31-2013, 12:54 AM
Bruce Gaitsch is a guitarist and songwriter who co-wrote many songs on two of Timothy’s albums, Timothy B. (1987) and Tell Me the Truth (1990). Here’s his Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gaitsch

Last week, Bruce posted this comment on the Eagles Fastlane Facebook page:


http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/3_zps03d66867.jpg?t=1383163872

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=564517440287475&set=a.387635061309048.90039.139841996088357&type=1&theater

Ive always been a dreamer
10-31-2013, 01:24 AM
I've said many times before how much I regret never having an opportunity to see an HFO show. I do think Don had a great stage presence in the Eagles' live shows and I especially loved watching the interaction between he and Joe. Even though I think Steuart is a fantastic and capable musician, he, obviously, doesn't fill Don's shoes in that regard. I think the band does a fairly good job of compensating for it by having Joe interact more with the other band members, but it's not quite the same, IMO.

Brooke
10-31-2013, 12:09 PM
So agree, Dreamer. Felder was and is an awesome guitar player! I think they do quite well without him, but like you said, it's not quite the same.

WalshFan88
10-31-2013, 02:07 PM
I've said many times before how much I regret never having an opportunity to see an HFO show. I do think Don had a great stage presence in the Eagles' live shows and I especially loved watching the interaction between he and Joe. Even though I think Steuart is a fantastic and capable musician, he, obviously, doesn't fill Don's shoes in that regard. I think the band does a fairly good job of compensating for it by having Joe interact more with the other band members, but it's not quite the same, IMO.

That is my thought as well.

I love Stu as a player, but no one could replace Don Felder. You can play their licks but it won't BE them - there is a special part of each guitarist's personality in their playing that cannot be duplicated. You can play their lines but it misses that stamp of the original guitarist. And that's coming from someone who plays other guitarist's parts all the time in a band. That said they still put on an awesome show but I agree- the Felder/Walsh interplay was very special.

secret squirrel
12-31-2013, 11:32 AM
Don is mentioned in this blog:

http://www.enterprisenews.com/blogs/music-scene/x1377019685/2013-Look-Back-Concerts-hot-new-jazz?rssfeed=true

SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/poco-versus-eagles-to-every-thing-there.html

SilverMoon
01-05-2014, 12:15 PM
Thanks for posting, SS!

Don is briefly mentioned, but I like what the writer says about his guitar playing and singing. Very nice!

Felder was a special guest on Peter Frampton's Guitar Circus at the Indian Ranch in Webster, and his lead vocals on "Hotel California" were almost as impresive as his guitar work. Frampton is still a captivating performer, and when those two jammed on a ten-minute version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" it was pretty much six-string heaven.

VAisForEagleLovers
01-05-2014, 12:43 PM
I think I read this before, but I can't remember for sure. The reason I think I did is because I remember thinking at the time, and now, who needs to listen to Peter Frampton on guitar when Felder's playing? I'm sure it sounded great, but I believe I'd prefer to hear Felder solo. Or with Joe. :wink:

Topkat
01-05-2014, 01:13 PM
I had seen this show in NY & Felder & Frampton were an amazing guitar duo!
Frampton is so under rated as a guitar player because of his pretty boy rep as a solo artist, but he rocked as lead guitar player for Humble Pie before he went solo. When Felder & Frampton did "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in a 10 minute version of the song, it literally brought tears to my eyes. A fitting tribute to George Harrison.

randymeisnerrocks
01-05-2014, 01:17 PM
Frampton is so under rated as a guitar player because of his pretty boy rep as a solo artist, but he rocked as lead guitar player for Humble Pie before he went solo. When Felder & Frampton did "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in a 10 minute version of the song, it literally brought tears to my eyes. A fitting tribute to George Harrison.

I believe drugs were an issue, as they often are in these situations. I have mad love for Frampton.

SilverMoon
01-07-2014, 09:31 AM
Here’s an article on the Notes for Notes Benefit Concert that Don performed at on December 6th, 2013:

http://www.noozhawk.com/article/jeff_moehlis_notes_for_notes_benefit_concert_20131 211

This is the part that mentions him:

Then there was another big surprise — unbilled Eagles guitarist Don Felder graced the audience with a cover of Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Pride and Joy" and one of the all-time great rock songs, "Hotel California," which Felder co-wrote. Hearing Felder's solo at the end of the latter song, which many like me can sing along to virtually note for note, was almost a religious experience.

sodascouts
01-07-2014, 10:50 AM
Now that's what I call a cool surprise!

MaryCalifornia
01-18-2014, 02:56 AM
So, Kris and Kendall Jenner on Twitter from the Eagles show tonight. Do they disrespect their step-daughter/half-sister in-law Leah Felder and her family by attending? Guess they're not worried about it. Maybe if Kris and Bruce Jenner weren't separated she wouldn't have gone? Who knows? Who cares, haha??!! Poor Jenner boys probably can't show their faces at the shows, they have to go in disguise and keep a low profile! You know they want to go! [No I'm not drunk, just tired. Off to bed and looking forward to reading Borderer reports from tonight's show!]

SilverMoon
01-18-2014, 06:32 PM
I don’t know much about celebrity gossip, but I think Kris Jenner is friends with Glenn’s wife, Cindy. Maybe that’s why she attended the concert.

SilverMoon
01-30-2014, 12:52 AM
Last night, Don inducted Peter Frampton into the Musicians Hall of Fame in Nashville. Here is an article on the event:

http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1721440/guitar-heroes-grab-attention-at-musicians-hall-of-fame-induction-ceremony.jhtml

Brooke
01-30-2014, 10:24 AM
Sounds like quite the show! Thanks for posting that, SM.

SilverMoon
02-10-2014, 02:30 PM
Here’s a nice feature article from the GRAMMY’s website. Don discusses "Hotel California" and reveals five Grammy Hall Of Fame recordings that have influenced his career:

http://www.grammy.com/news/grammy-hall-of-fame-inspirations-don-felder

sodascouts
02-11-2014, 12:32 PM
Thanks for the link - and thanks for being so great at keeping up with Felder news!

VAisForEagleLovers
03-15-2014, 10:59 AM
Finally going through Google alerts, haven't had time for that in a couple of months! I did see this on Felder's Facebook Timeline (I finally looked at my NewsFeed after several days). He's releasing an expanded version of his last solo album (Road to Forever).

http://www.935wrqn.com/common/more.php?m=58&ts=1394739338&article=01AC05EBAA9711E3B51EFEFDADE6840A&mode=2

SilverMoon
03-15-2014, 12:19 PM
Thanks for posting, VA!

UndertheWire
03-16-2014, 04:11 PM
Nike have launched a new advertising campaign called "Dare to Zlatan" with music by Don Felder:
http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report-zlatan-ibrahimovich-takes-on-fire-ice-and-a-tiger-in-nike-dare-to-zlatan-campaign-1968531

sodascouts
03-16-2014, 09:37 PM
Cool! It appears the ads are getting a lot of attention.

secret squirrel
03-17-2014, 11:15 AM
Here’s a short interview with Don – I’m just about to read it:
http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/03/15/he-played-like-a-songwriter-the-eagles-don-felder-on-how-george-harrison-changed-everything/


SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/opinion8-must-see-tv.html

sodascouts
03-17-2014, 07:06 PM
That's an excerpt from this very interesting interview:

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/don-felder-picks-10-essential-guitar-albums-596304/11

WalshFan88
03-18-2014, 02:48 AM
Cool choices from Don.... I'd agree with most of them.

SilverMoon
03-19-2014, 10:22 AM
Thanks for posting, SS and Soda!

That is a great interview of Don. I have to say that his love of music really comes through in his interviews. I especially agree with Don about George Harrison and David Gilmour. They are two of my favorite players. George was such a great songwriter and classy guitarist. David has a great tone and his solos are masterpieces. In my opinion, Don’s and David Gilmour’s guitar playing and singing voice are somewhat similar.

sodascouts
03-30-2014, 09:53 PM
Found this little article:

Don Felder Donates Instruments to Charity Auctioneer (http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Lees+Eagles+Felder+donates+instruments+charity+auc tioneer/9652268/story.html)

MaryCalifornia
03-31-2014, 10:24 PM
Here is an article about and photos of Leah Felder-Jenner that mentions Don. (And no, I do not read the Daily Mail haha)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2593480/Brandon-Jenners-wife-Leah-steals-spotlight-family-vacation-Kardashians-Thailand.html

secret squirrel
04-04-2014, 11:20 AM
Cool interview with Don. He sounds like a nice guy. And I love the bit about DH's break-ups.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/04/qa-don-felder-on-soundtrack-summer-and-secret-to-eagles-greatest-hits/

SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/opinion8-must-see-tv.html

UndertheWire
04-04-2014, 11:51 AM
So his set list will be

Hotel California
Those Shoes
Life in the Fast Lane
Heartache Tonight
Heavy Metal (Takin’ a Ride)
You Don’t Have Me
Wash Away

?

Would that be about 30 minutes?

SilverMoon
04-05-2014, 02:43 PM
Cool interview with Don. He sounds like a nice guy. And I love the bit about DH's break-ups.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/04/qa-don-felder-on-soundtrack-summer-and-secret-to-eagles-greatest-hits/

SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/opinion8-must-see-tv.html

Cool interview indeed, SS! Thanks for posting it!

secret squirrel
04-07-2014, 10:35 AM
A short piece on a Don track here:

http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/04/06/one-track-mind-don-felder-southern-bound-from-road-to-forever-extended-edition-2014/

SS
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[/URL][URL]http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/opinion8-must-see-tv.html (http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/04/06/one-track-mind-don-felder-southern-bound-from-road-to-forever-extended-edition-2014/)

Topkat
04-07-2014, 04:55 PM
Loved that interview with Don Felder. I am going to see that show with Styx & Foreigner at Jones beach. I do tend to agree that the best songs come out of a heartbreak. Sad, but true!

SilverMoon
04-07-2014, 09:56 PM
Thanks for posting that article, SS!

TK, it's great that you're going to see Don again this summer!

SilverMoon
04-07-2014, 09:59 PM
Last Saturday, Don performed at the 2nd Light Up the Blues benefit concert for Autism Speaks along with Crosby, Stills & Nash and John Mayer. Here’s an article about the concert:

https://www.looktothestars.org/news/11803-john-mayer-joins-crosby-stills-and-nash-onstage-at-autism-concert

SilverMoon
04-09-2014, 03:17 PM
Another two articles on the Light Up the Blues benefit concert:

http://filtermagazine.com/index.php/news/entry/live_in_photos_crosby_stills_and_nash_john_mayer_m ore_play_light_up_the_blu/

http://www.lamag.com/laculture/culturefilesblog/2014/04/08/crosby-stills-and-nash-christina-applegate-and-dax-shepard-light-up-the-blues-for-autism-awareness

secret squirrel
04-29-2014, 11:08 AM
Short piece on Don here:

http://www.rocksquare.com/community/musicnews/4101

I love your new avatar, SM!

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/im-on-fire-shakey-graves.html

SilverMoon
05-02-2014, 10:18 AM
Thanks for posting the article, SS!

And I’m glad you like my new avatar. I made it myself! :)

sodascouts
05-02-2014, 06:07 PM
Awesome SM! If you ever feel inspired to make some more animations and post them, that would be great!

SilverMoon
05-07-2014, 04:55 PM
Sure, Soda. I’ll try to make some more animations as soon as I can. :)

MaryCalifornia
05-07-2014, 06:09 PM
Love what you made, SM!!:headbang:

SilverMoon
05-09-2014, 07:05 PM
Thanks, Mary! :)

secret squirrel
05-15-2014, 11:52 AM
Wasn't sure whether to post this in press for Road to Forever or this more general thread.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/don_felders_solo_flight.php

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/gordon-gano-impure-charisma.html

GlennLover
05-16-2014, 10:20 AM
Got this in a Google alert. It could go here or in Eagles In The Press so I will post it in both. http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/ex-eagle_don_felder_surprised.php?page=2. Give it a rest.

Zanny Kingston
05-16-2014, 11:21 AM
Thanks for that GL!

many times I have thought that they all should "get over it"- of course this is all based upon what I have read about this split between Felder and the rest of the band. So I do wonder if there is more to the story or are they all being hard headed/stubborn about this issue? Again, based on what I have read, Felder comes across as a complainer and so often you really just need to count your blessings. Being a member of the Eagles, to this day, is what still gets him publicity.

GlennLover
05-16-2014, 11:26 AM
Thanks for that GL!

many times I have thought that they all should "get over it"- of course this is all based upon what I have read about this split between Felder and the rest of the band. So I do wonder if there is more to the story or are they all being hard headed/stubborn about this issue? Again, based on what I have read, Felder comes across as a complainer and so often you really just need to count your blessings. Being a member of the Eagles, to this day, is what still gets him publicity.

Exactly!

MaryCalifornia
05-16-2014, 12:03 PM
Here is a good interview from 2001 in which they discuss Felder, I guess right after he was gone. Even sweet Timothy B. gets into the mix a little. You have to login to read it, but I did and it was no big deal, and it's worth it for the interview:

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/2014-05-14/exclusive-previously-unpublished-eagles-interview

Edit: Compare this interview with the Felder interview above - here is Felder, today, talking about wanting to be friends and he doesn't get why the guys don't want anything to do with him, and in the 2001 interview, their sense of relief and even joy at the fact of him being gone is palpable. The more I learn and read, I get the sense that things started to go bad with him around '76 or so? They kept him on through 2001 - 11 active years, such a long time, for the good of the band. Imagine the entire time he was driving them nuts. That is such a long time, and they were trying to avoid the unpleasantness of firing him. He needs to stop talking about them, it doesn't reflect well on him.

UndertheWire
05-16-2014, 12:21 PM
It's a good interview, but wouldn't it be better in the Eagles press section? I know it covers Felder's leaving and I love the exchange about the use of the word "unrest".
There also the bit where Don Henley talks about Glenn's contribution to Hotel California.

Edit: I see why you put it in here, now.

MaryCalifornia
05-16-2014, 12:23 PM
Definitely it should go there too, I just haven't done it yet - was editing my post!

UndertheWire
05-16-2014, 12:57 PM
If I understand correctly, Felder's lawyer was asking to see the accounts back to 1974 - more than 20 years earlier. I don't know about the rules in the US, but I only aim to keep records for about 7 years. If someone asked me to produce receipts and detailed accounts from the creation of the company, I couldn't do it. I'd also think it was an unreasonable request. My accounts are clean but I would want someone asking me to justify expenses incurred nearly 20 years ago. I certainly wouldn't want to see them splashed over the tabloid press which is what would have happened if the suit had gone to court.

sad-cafe
05-16-2014, 10:50 PM
Thanks for that GL!

many times I have thought that they all should "get over it"- of course this is all based upon what I have read about this split between Felder and the rest of the band. So I do wonder if there is more to the story or are they all being hard headed/stubborn about this issue? Again, based on what I have read, Felder comes across as a complainer and so often you really just need to count your blessings. Being a member of the Eagles, to this day, is what still gets him publicity.

yup. I totally agree

Freypower
05-17-2014, 06:35 PM
A couple of comments in the Felder interview reinforce that despite his wide eyed pleas of wanting to be 'friends' with the other Eagles he doesn't really mean it:

"There were rigid constraints writing and recording songs with the Eagles. You had to be in 'Eagles World' and anything outside of that just didn't fit," Felder says. "And it might be that some guys couldn't play the parts.

Meow.

I think most of us have heard Heavy Metal, which I happen to think is one of Felder's best songs, but there is nothing particularly innovative or difficult about it.

"And I'm thinking, 'Gee, didn't [Henley] write 'Get Over It?'"

The second quote has been edited, but for Felder's information, Get Over It was written by Henley & Glenn Frey. And as long as Felder continues to denigrate Frey's songwriting talents & ignore his singing ability, not to mention taking thinly veiled swipes at his musicianship. there will never be a reconciliation, regardless of how much Glenn does all this himself.

There will be Felder fans here who will think I am too harsh; perhaps. I try not to comment on Felder's statements these days for the most part.

chaim
05-18-2014, 01:50 PM
Cool interview with Don. He sounds like a nice guy. And I love the bit about DH's break-ups.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/04/qa-don-felder-on-soundtrack-summer-and-secret-to-eagles-greatest-hits/

SS
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http://sshh-sshh.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/opinion8-must-see-tv.html

I'm nitpicking again (it's what I do best), but I find this bit slightly weird:

FOX411: What songs will you be playing on The Soundtrack of Summer tour?

Felder: I’ll obviously do songs from my Eagles days — the ones I co-wrote, recorded, and toured with the band — like “Hotel California,” “Those Shoes,” “Life in the Fast Lane,” and “Heartache Tonight.” In other words, I’ll be doing all of the rockers that were part of my “sentence” with the Eagles. (laughs)

Kinda makes it sound like he co-wrote Heartache Tonight too. I know that he came up with the cool riff after Joe's main riff in LITFL, although he's not in he credits.
I assume that the writer has edited slightly what Don actually said.

UndertheWire
05-18-2014, 07:20 PM
He usually says "the ones I co-wrote, recorded, or toured with the band" so it's probably a transcription error.

Freypower
05-18-2014, 07:49 PM
Unless he has changed his setlist, he also does Tequila Sunrise & I think Take It Easy. I suppose his justification for playing those is he 'toured' with them. He certainly didn't play on them or co-write them.

SilverMoon
05-18-2014, 11:53 PM
Compare this interview with the Felder interview above - here is Felder, today, talking about wanting to be friends and he doesn't get why the guys don't want anything to do with him, and in the 2001 interview, their sense of relief and even joy at the fact of him being gone is palpable. The more I learn and read, I get the sense that things started to go bad with him around '76 or so? They kept him on through 2001 - 11 active years, such a long time, for the good of the band. Imagine the entire time he was driving them nuts. That is such a long time, and they were trying to avoid the unpleasantness of firing him. He needs to stop talking about them, it doesn't reflect well on him.
Timothy and Joe were friends with Don Felder. I don’t think they wanted him out of the band. In his book, Don F. says that early in 2000, after the end of his marriage, Timothy and Joe phoned him to offer their support. And at Christmas of 2000, shortly before his dismissal, Timothy and Joe sent him their presents. So I guess they still cared about him and wanted to stay friends with him. And in the ’90s, Timothy had formed a band with Don Felder.

SilverMoon
05-18-2014, 11:58 PM
Joe Vitale, Joe Walsh’s longtime friend, seems to get along great with Don Felder. He has written to Don on Facebook at least twice that I know of. The first time was on February 7, after Don announced that he was going to The Arsenio Hall Show. Joe Vitale said he would be watching the show. The second time was on April 3, after Don posted a picture from the Don Felder and Friends Rock Cerritos for Katrina benefit concert (2006). Joe Vitale commented that he was in the picture playing the organ and that it was a great picture. This is very cool!

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/5_zpsf189c7cf.jpg?t=1400454477

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/6_zps61da32e6.jpg?t=1400454516

https://www.facebook.com/donfeldermusic/photos/a.250855908360742.51583.135122906600710/505402822906048/?type=1

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/7_zpse7044b71.jpg?t=1400454555

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/8_zpsb4e0121e.jpg?t=1400454593

https://www.facebook.com/donfeldermusic/photos/a.250855908360742.51583.135122906600710/530414450404885/?type=1

Freypower
05-19-2014, 01:19 AM
Timothy and Joe were friends with Don Felder. I don’t think they wanted him out of the band. In his book, Don F. says that early in 2000, after the end of his marriage, Timothy and Joe phoned him to offer their support. And at Christmas of 2000, shortly before his dismissal, Timothy and Joe sent him their presents. So I guess they still cared about him and wanted to stay friends with him. And in the ’90s, Timothy had formed a band with Don Felder.

There was a collaboration with Paul Carrack known as the Malibu Men's Choir, but as it never played live or recorded apart from unreleased demos, I would disagree that this amounts to Schmit & Felder 'forming a band'.

Whether they were friends or not, you don't mention how Joe & Tim responded to Felder after Felder was fired. Joe told him there was nothing he could do & Tim said he should have signed the papers. He has not spoken to Joe since & I would think it highly unilkely he has spoken to Tim. See pp 319-320 of Heaven & Hell.

Also, as neither of them have ever spoken about Felder's firing, there is no evidence to suggest they wanted him to stay in the band, or indeed vice versa.

MaryCalifornia
05-19-2014, 01:48 AM
It would not surprise me at all to learn that Don Felder has many friends in the music industry and in his life. I'm sure he does. He seems like a very nice guy.

sodascouts
05-19-2014, 10:29 AM
Yes, I daresay his break with the Eagles has not made him universally loathed! However,in 2001, it seems he had become such an agitator that his dismissal was a "horrible relief" even to Joe and Tim. Still, that doesn't necessarily translate to them harboring hard feelings forever and I wouldn't be surprised if he and Joe have spoken since 2007 and the publication of the book. He didn't target Joe and Tim in his book, after all, other than expressing disappointment and a sense of betrayal that they didn't fight for him to remain in the band. They were not included in the lawsuit.

One can't blame him for speaking of the split when he's inevitably asked about it, but I do wish he would see that after this many years, it's better to stay positive. I think he would come off much better to all Eagles fans if he chose that path. As it stands, while his supporters will defend him regardless, he is turning off others. He has nothing to lose by laying off the negativity and everything to gain.

chaim
05-19-2014, 11:22 AM
He usually says "the ones I co-wrote, recorded, or toured with the band" so it's probably a transcription error.

Yes, that makes sense. I was thinking that maybe Don actually said "or" here too, but it got changed to "and" in the transcription/writing process.

sodascouts
05-23-2014, 03:03 PM
An interview with Don Felder - it's a couple weeks old now, but still worth a listen (it starts about 10 minutes in):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCvVfSDBpM&feature=youtu.be

You can also access it here:

http://www.soundpress.net/files-features/radio-show.php

sodascouts
05-23-2014, 03:41 PM
A few others to boot (can you tell I've just cleaned out my EOC inbox lol)?

"A Conversation with Don Felder" - Rock Show Critique (http://rockshowcritique.com/2014/05/donfelder-2/)

"Ex-Eagle Don Felder's Solo Flight Takes a Road to Forever" - Houston Press (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/don_felders_solo_flight.php)

"Don Felder Talks Styx/Foreigner Tour, Solo Album, and the Eagles" - Access Atlanta (http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/atlanta-music-scene/2014/may/20/don-felder-talks-styxforeigner-tour-solo-album-and/)

"Guitarist Don Felder Returning to His Roots in North Florida" - The Florida Times Union (http://members.jacksonville.com/entertainment/music/2014-05-21/story/guitarist-don-felder-returning-his-roots-north-florida)

"Don Felder Discusses New Album and Soundtrack of Summer Tour" (audio) - Classics DuJour (http://classicsdujour.com/news/exclusive-don-felder-discusses-new-album-the-soundtrack-of-summer-tour/)

"Don Felder Talks to Tusk about What Makes Him Tick" - Tusk Entertainment (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20140521/ENT/140529940/1005?Title=Don-Felder-talks-to-Tusk-about-what-makes-him-tick&tc=ar)

UndertheWire
05-24-2014, 03:05 AM
A few others to boot (can you tell I've just cleaned out my EOC inbox lol)?
"Don Felder Talks Styx/Foreigner Tour, Solo Album, and the Eagles" - Access Atlanta (http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/atlanta-music-scene/2014/may/20/don-felder-talks-styxforeigner-tour-solo-album-and/)

There are a few new things in that one. He's thinking of a new book?

MaryCalifornia
05-24-2014, 12:38 PM
Thanks, UTW. That interview is also chock full of swipes at the Eagles, even more than usual! His "tragic" departure from the band? Is "tragic" the right word when someone is fired? I guess to him it is. Also, he says he was in touch with Bernie until Bernie re-joined the Eagles. That's probably because Bernie is ON TOUR and when he has a break, Don Felder is not the first person he makes time for. Sheesh. I really am a fan of Felder, I swear, I just can't get over the way he is spewing on and on about the Evil Eagles!!! Instead of focusing on his own music and his tour with Styx and Foreigner. He truly is making a career/image out of being an ex-Eagle, that's where he sees his opportunity, still.

UndertheWire
05-24-2014, 02:39 PM
I was amused by his comment about the press being his friends. After reading through all those interviews, I felt that he could cut down on them until he has something new to say.

VAisForEagleLovers
05-25-2014, 12:02 AM
I can't read the interview because I keep getting errors that say there's a malicious add-on on the page. If anyone's read it recently, I'd run some anti-malware software on your computer.

UndertheWire
05-25-2014, 05:06 AM
I run with a ad-blocker and don't allow pop-ups which may be why I'm not getting the warning.

Tis is what he said about a second book. I think it's a good idea.


Q: Is there a volume 2 of a book in you?
A: I’ve been playing around with a book called “Road Tales,” stories from the road, to do for charity. I want to get a lot of people from the music business who have really funny stories. Whoever contributes to it, a portion of the proceeds would go to their charity. I’ve been collecting stories, but I don’t have enough yet for a book.

chaim
05-25-2014, 05:54 AM
A few others to boot (can you tell I've just cleaned out my EOC inbox lol)?

"A Conversation with Don Felder" - Rock Show Critique (http://rockshowcritique.com/2014/05/donfelder-2/)

"Ex-Eagle Don Felder's Solo Flight Takes a Road to Forever" - Houston Press (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/don_felders_solo_flight.php)

"Don Felder Talks Styx/Foreigner Tour, Solo Album, and the Eagles" - Access Atlanta (http://www.accessatlanta.com/weblogs/atlanta-music-scene/2014/may/20/don-felder-talks-styxforeigner-tour-solo-album-and/)

"Guitarist Don Felder Returning to His Roots in North Florida" - The Florida Times Union (http://members.jacksonville.com/entertainment/music/2014-05-21/story/guitarist-don-felder-returning-his-roots-north-florida)

"Don Felder Discusses New Album and Soundtrack of Summer Tour" (audio) - Classics DuJour (http://classicsdujour.com/news/exclusive-don-felder-discusses-new-album-the-soundtrack-of-summer-tour/)

"Don Felder Talks to Tusk about What Makes Him Tick" - Tusk Entertainment (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20140521/ENT/140529940/1005?Title=Don-Felder-talks-to-Tusk-about-what-makes-him-tick&tc=ar)

Wow. I didn't know that The Last Resort evolved from a "story" Don told Glenn and the other Don.
I notice that sometimes (just sometimes) Don tends to say "we" when Don H and Glenn have done something. ("...because once we came up with the concept of Hotel California based on the music that I had written, all the other stories started falling out of that".) But, then again, everyone does that. Nick Mason was criticized by other Floyd guys for all the "we"s in his book about Pink Floyd.:hilarious:

chaim
05-25-2014, 05:59 AM
Thanks, UTW. That interview is also chock full of swipes at the Eagles, even more than usual! His "tragic" departure from the band? Is "tragic" the right word when someone is fired? I guess to him it is. Also, he says he was in touch with Bernie until Bernie re-joined the Eagles. That's probably because Bernie is ON TOUR and when he has a break, Don Felder is not the first person he makes time for. Sheesh. I really am a fan of Felder, I swear, I just can't get over the way he is spewing on and on about the Evil Eagles!!! Instead of focusing on his own music and his tour with Styx and Foreigner. He truly is making a career/image out of being an ex-Eagle, that's where he sees his opportunity, still.

He certainly seems to say "They are bad guys. I love them. I don't know why they don't love me. Did I tell you they are rather bad guys?" kind of stuff now and then.

Sort of reminds me of Gene Simmons's backhanded compliments towards Ace and Peter. He always says stuff like "Peter is a sweetheart, but (something very negative here)", or "We love Ace, but (something very negative here)". Assure them you're ok with the past and have nothing against the guys, but throw that swipe in there somewhere.

Paul Stanley is a bit like Don F in interviews actually. He sounds so calm, thoughtful and sincere when he speaks that you'll believe that his side of the story must be the truth if you're not careful.

Freypower
05-25-2014, 07:31 PM
Wow. I didn't know that The Last Resort evolved from a "story" Don told Glenn and the other Don.
I notice that sometimes (just sometimes) Don tends to say "we" when Don H and Glenn have done something. ("...because once we came up with the concept of Hotel California based on the music that I had written, all the other stories started falling out of that".) But, then again, everyone does that. Nick Mason was criticized by other Floyd guys for all the "we"s in his book about Pink Floyd.:hilarious:
Don, Glen and I had stayed up for about a day and a half talking in this hotel room

Despite how much they hated each other. Uh huh. So now Don Felder is also responsible for the concept of that most Henleyesque of songs, The Last Resort.He basically says that there woud have been no album at all without the concept of Hotel California based on the music that I had written.

Modesty is not this man's strong point. Neither is the idea that other people he has worked with also contributed to the success. I have never read so much 'me, me, me' from any other musician.

chaim
05-26-2014, 11:29 AM
Modesty is not this man's strong point. Neither is the idea that other people he has worked with also contributed to the success. I have never read so much 'me, me, me' from any other musician.

Yes, a certain Harrison track from the Let It Be album comes to mind.

sodascouts
05-30-2014, 08:24 PM
Don is a Mercedes man!

http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/1405_celebrity_drive_don_felder_former_eagles_memb er_grammy_winner/

SilverMoon
05-31-2014, 10:45 AM
Nice article! Thanks for posting, Soda.

Brooke
06-04-2014, 01:58 PM
Interesting! Nice pics too!

UndertheWire
06-07-2014, 03:47 PM
Here's another interview. I think it's new but the content is old.
http://www.washingtonlife.com/2014/06/06/music-notes-beyond-hotel-california/

UndertheWire
06-09-2014, 11:21 AM
Another interview, very similar to all the others but with more detail
http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2014/06/06/don-felder-flying-solo-interview/#sthash.frZkc5ep.eeKxZHaw.dpbs

sodascouts
06-09-2014, 10:26 PM
He talks about planning to do "Wash Away" with Tommy Shaw as part of his set... I wonder why that never materialized?

Also he refers to "his wife" - did he finally make it official and marry the mother of his child, as opposed to the extended engagement? If so, I say WAY TO GO.

secret squirrel
06-12-2014, 11:49 AM
A short piece - nothing new:

http://www.antimusic.com/news/14/June/12Iconic_Hotel_California_Solo_Nearly_Didnt_Happen .shtml#.U5nLKlKWkwo

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/helmut-berger-as-konrad-in-viscontis.html

VAisForEagleLovers
07-03-2014, 08:27 AM
It doesn't discuss him, and I can't find the thread about the Soundtracks of Summer Tour in general, and I'm late for a meeting.... But he's on tour with these guys, so he should have been mentioned.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-foreigner-tour-bus-fire/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral

Topkat
07-03-2014, 12:45 PM
It doesn't discuss him, and I can't find the thread about the Soundtracks of Summer Tour in general, and I'm late for a meeting.... But he's on tour with these guys, so he should have been mentioned.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-foreigner-tour-bus-fire/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral

Don's name is mentioned in the article, as being on tour with them, but the buses that were on fire were from Styx & Foreigner....Luckily they were empty the the time & nobody was hurt..

VAisForEagleLovers
07-03-2014, 01:02 PM
Don's name is mentioned in the article, as being on tour with them, but the buses that were on fire were from Styx & Foreigner....Luckily they were empty the the time & nobody was hurt..

Thanks, TK, I only skimmed it since it was 8:26 and my meeting was 8:30!

UndertheWire
07-22-2014, 06:15 AM
Here's another interview with the usual stuff but expanded a little.

http://www.heraldextra.com/entertainment/music/don-felder-welcomes-chat-about-hotel-california-soundtrack-of-summer/article_7417b925-8778-521b-8f00-f97d02072c00.html

I've got to say that it annoyed me a little that he's claiming to be such a big part of the Eagles sound. As I'm someone who loved the Eagles from 1972 -1975, for me the true Eagles sound has nothing to do with Don Felder and if anything, he's to blame for some of their worst efforts in later years.

I was beginning to warm to Felder and I still think he was given a raw deal, but I'm back to believing that he must have been difficult to work with.

Freypower
07-22-2014, 05:47 PM
Once again we have the lie that Hotel California was the lead single from the album. It was the second single. Once again we have the lavish praise of Henley & the ignoring of Frey except to imply that the Lone Arranger term which was used for Frey should apparently have been used for Felder, since he seems to have done absolutely everything. If you look at his actual songwriting credits with the Eagles there are not actually many of them for him to claim all this stuff. We were told in HOTE that most of the stuff he wrote was not used.

I try to stay away from commenting on Felder these days but his ego & his complete lack of modesty or ability to accept that any of his bandmates have any talent (except Henley) will always put me off.

And I don't think Road To Forever sounds like an Eagles album. For a start, to use an analolgy which seems to be the only one Felder understands, it does not have any lead vocals by Don Henley on it.

WalshFan88
07-22-2014, 06:32 PM
Here's another interview with the usual stuff but expanded a little.

http://www.heraldextra.com/entertainment/music/don-felder-welcomes-chat-about-hotel-california-soundtrack-of-summer/article_7417b925-8778-521b-8f00-f97d02072c00.html

I've got to say that it annoyed me a little that he's claiming to be such a big part of the Eagles sound. As I'm someone who loved the Eagles from 1972 -1975, for me the true Eagles sound has nothing to do with Don Felder and if anything, he's to blame for some of their worst efforts in later years.

I was beginning to warm to Felder and I still think he was given a raw deal, but I'm back to believing that he must have been difficult to work with.

I have to disagree on that he wasn't a big part of their guitar sound. To me they will always be a guitar band and I love Bernie but Bernie's guitar sound is not what I think of when I think of the Eagles guitar sound. For me that will always be Don Felder and Joe Walsh. Their guitar sound only improved as time went on (with the addition of Joe) for what I like to hear - which is bluesy rock. That said, Don Felder is not the sole man responsible for their sound, but to say he had nothing at all to do with it isn't fair either. His guitar sound is instantly recognizable to me, much like a signature. Within a couple of notes of him playing anything I can tell it's Don Felder by his signature phrasing, tone, and licks. Same goes for Mr. Walsh.

And I don't understand what you mean by that he's to blame for their worst songs in the later period, AFAIK he only contributed songwriting to HC and VOL and sang Visions. I certainly don't blame him at all for the iffy at best songs on The Long Run album.

UndertheWire
07-22-2014, 06:59 PM
I didn't say that Felder wasn't a big part of the guitar sound in later records. The Eagles sound was about a lot more than guitars and (imo) something was lost when they went for the heavier guitars of later years. What's annoying about that writer and the interview is it gives the impression that Felder provided the bedrock of the Eagles sound with Henley (mostly) and Frey just providing vocals and lyrics for the music that Felder came up with. In doing so they ignore all the work that was done before Felder joined the band, even though he still plays some of those earlier songs in his set. They also ignore the contributions of Bernie and Randy.

Whilst I appreciate songs like VOL and Those Shoes work well live, I've always thought they are pretty clunky on record. Visions is the worst track on the One of These Nights album and Disco Strangler is the worst Eagles track of all time. I do like Too Many Hands.

WalshFan88
07-22-2014, 07:18 PM
To each their own. I've always consider Those Shoes and VOL highly underrated and I much prefer them to their early Bluegrassy years of songs like Earlybird and Tequila Sunrise, etc.

I do agree the interview was incorrect and that it came across wrong, but I feel the interviewer is just as guilty, personally.

UndertheWire
07-22-2014, 07:25 PM
I agree that a lot of the fault lies with the writer but Don does nothing to correct him.

sodascouts
07-22-2014, 08:26 PM
Yes, the writer was really sycophantic and asking Felder leading questions. I agree that Felder should have been more proactive in correcting him, though.

VAisForEagleLovers
07-22-2014, 08:49 PM
I only read about 2/3 of it. I'm just speechless.

SilverMoon
07-24-2014, 02:21 AM
I try to stay away from commenting on Felder these days but his ego & his complete lack of modesty or ability to accept that any of his bandmates have any talent (except Henley) will always put me off.
Don Felder often praises his former bandmates in interviews. On the other hand, they don’t praise him very often.

Freypower
07-24-2014, 06:26 PM
Don Felder often praises his former bandmates in interviews. On the other hand, they don’t praise him very often.

Give me an example of him praising Walsh & Schmit then, because I canot recall one. There is no point in asking for an example of him praising Frey, because it has never happened. Never. I should stress that this is hardly surprising because it is obvious the two of them loathe each other, but if you are going to claim that he does praise them, you must automatically exclude Frey from his praise.

Why his former bandmates should now start praising him, on the other hand, after the acrimony he caused, I am sure I don't know. Their policy seems to be not to discuss him at all.

sodascouts
07-24-2014, 06:30 PM
Actually, he does praise Joe when asked about him, saying he'd love to play with him again, that kind of thing. As far as Timothy goes, well, he doesn't really talk about him too much. However, in his recent chat, he said he missed playing with all of them, even Glenn... although he felt compelled to add "when he's in a good mood" as a qualifier for Glenn. It came off to me as if he were somewhat reluctant to say he missed Glenn, although perhaps I'm reading too much into his hesitation before adding Glenn to the list of band members he missed. You can make of it what you will.

That said, I really don't blame the Eagles for not bringing him up in their interviews. I know I'd probably be loath to sing the praises of someone who'd sued me and written a book that painted an ugly picture of me. However, in the documentary, they did talk about how talented he is.

Freypower
07-24-2014, 06:43 PM
Actually, he does praise Joe when asked about him, saying he'd love to play with him again, that kind of thing. As far as Timothy goes, well, he doesn't really talk about him too much. However, in his recent chat, he said he missed playing with all of them, even Glenn... although he felt compelled to add "when he's in a good mood" as a qualifier for Glenn. It came off to me as if he were somewhat reluctant to say he missed Glenn, although perhaps I'm reading too much into his hesitation before adding Glenn to the list of band members he missed. You can make of it what you will.

That said, I really don't blame the Eagles for not bringing him up in their interviews. I know I'd probably be loath to sing the praises of someone who'd sued me and written a book that painted an ugly picture of me. However, in the documentary, they did talk about how talented he is.

In my view he would have done better not to have mentioned Glenn at all (after all, he normally doesn't). It would have been more honest than the good mood comment which isn't even damning with faint praise. We all know his opinion of Glenn. He probably felt obliged to say it.

sodascouts
07-24-2014, 06:58 PM
When he started listing band members he missed, I wondered if he was going to add Glenn. I'm sure I wasn't the only one wondering. He must've known many of us were waiting to see what he'd say.

The thing is that he's said many times he wishes he could be friends with them all again, so if he'd deliberately left Glenn off, he would've looked like a hypocrite.

On the other hand, it's obvious that Glenn's the one he had the main problem with, so to praise Glenn too highly would have made him look like a hypocrite as well.

He kind of painted himself into a corner with that one: damned either way. That's the danger in these chats for the celebs. They can't craft their answers carefully.

SilverMoon
07-25-2014, 02:50 AM
Here are some interviews in which Don Felder praises his former bandmates:

http://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/don_felder/

Songfacts: When it comes to discussing the Eagles, unfortunately, your name is not the first one that people usually think of. They think of Don and they think of Glenn. But can you tell me a little bit about what it was like when you were recording with the Eagles as far as creating the songs? It seems like you contributed a lot of the music but weren't always noted in the songwriting credits.

Don: Well, I'll just say we all contributed to every song. No one made up the guitar parts that I played but me. Everybody brought their particular talent to each recording. And it was really an unusual circumstance to have five people in a band that every one of us wrote, sang, and played. And any one of us could have and had previously fronted their own band.

It was an unusual amount of talent, that we had five singers, five songwriters, and five musicians. And so what a novel idea to have everybody be able to write, sing, and play in the same band. So we had an abundance of talent and we used everyone's strong suit. Joe and I were the primary guitar arrangers, and wrote a lot of the music. But Henley was obviously the strongest lead vocalist, was a great lyricist. The team of Henley and Frey have written some amazing songs. I think they're the American version of Lennon and McCartney as far as songwriting goes.

So we had just an abundance of material, an abundance of talent, and an abundance of singers in the same band.


http://popcultureclassics.com/don_felder.html

PCC:
Your vocals are so expressive and assured on the new album. Were you always confident, stepping up as the frontman and lead singer, once you started going out with your own band?

FELDER:
When I was in The Eagles, I deliberately and gladly took a back seat vocally to such great singers as Don Henley and Glenn Frey. To me, Don Henley could sing the New York Times phone book and I’d buy it. He’s a great vocalist with a lot of expression. The timbre in his voice is just delicious. And he’s a brilliant lyricist. So we would take everyone’s aspect and strongest suit that they brought to the table and feature that element of their talent. Obviously mine was guitar and arranging and songwriting and that sort of stuff, where Henley’s was lyrics and vocals. So everybody brought their strongest suit and the combination of everybody’s addition to that project really made something greater than any one of us has been able to obtain or achieve since then.

I never had a lot of apprehension about singing. I wish I had been allowed to sing more in The Eagles. But I was more than happy to take a step back and feature the strongest vocalist of the band, which was obviously Don Henley. So when I started fronting my own band, I didn’t really have any apprehension. My only concern was that I’d be compared vocally to Henley. But he has no comparison, in my opinion [laughs]. There’s only a couple of people that can sing that great. So, if people thought I didn’t sing as good as Don, they’re probably right. But I don’t have a problem with that.


http://www.getreadytorock.com/rock_stars/don_felder.htm

'Road To Forever' contains all those things we associate with you from your signature guitar sound to rich harmony singing. Was it difficult to go back and find your own style outside of your long tenure in The Eagles?

No not really because this album is totally different from what I used to do with The Eagles. When I was writing for the band it was a situation in which you are writing for a select group of people - a cast of characters with a particular style.

So I would have to think about how Don Henley would sing for example, or keep the music fairly simple, think about Tim's dexterous bass playing, or Joe's particular guitar style etc. So I ended up writing in a particular way to suit their style. This album is much more of a liberating process for me and I'm writing about myself for the most part.


http://popdose.com/the-popdose-interview-with-don-felder/

Correct me if I’m wrong, but from my perspective, in reading your book, the biggest betrayal was when Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit threw you under the bus after you fought for equal rights within the band.

I don’t think they threw me under the bus at all. I understand the way that organization works, and it’s one of those things where you’re either with them, or you’re an enemy. So they had to make a decision one way or another on what camp they were in, and they chose to stay in the band, and they’re still in the band. I don’t hold anything against them. I love Joe, he’s a great guy, great player. He and I were probably the closest in that band of all the people that were in that band. And Timothy’s a really nice guy, a great singer, great player. I don’t have any hard feelings against anyone in that band, to tell you the truth.

That’s good to hear. From reading the book, I felt betrayed on your behalf, because you’re standing up for Joe and Timothy, and it seemed tragic that they chose the meal ticket over what I consider to be the right thing.

Well, what they chose was the right thing for them, so I was happy for them. That year-and-a-half, cathartic process I went through was so I would not carry that baggage forward, so I wouldn’t carry that anger or frustration or sense of betrayal. I wanted to be free of that, and released from all that, and enjoy the rest of my life, play other music and have a good time. There is life after the Eagles. [Chuckles]

Freypower
07-25-2014, 06:52 PM
I have read all the praise of Henley before. That isn't new to me. The only comment that wasn't familiar to me was about Tim's 'dexterous' bass playing.

Glenn when mentioned at all is lumped in with Henley as being part of a great team or as an amorphous part of a great band. I do note the part about 'great singers like DH AND GF' but then, as usual, it goes on with all the cliched phone book stuff about Henley and how Henley was 'the strongest vocalist' (and 'probably' better than Felder! Wow)! NB: I am sure his praise of Henley is genuine.

We know that in his show he does sing a couple of songs which were sung by Glenn. How does he feel about how Glenn sang those songs? He has never said. It would not surprise me at all to learn that he 'probably' thinks he sings them better than Glenn.

He doesn't like Glenn. I understand that (and Glenn doesn 't like him, but during the 14 year vacation went out of his way to praise Felder). I guess for the most part as we said yesterday, when he does talk about the band it is probably best for him to leave Glenn out, which begs the question of why he wanted to be in the same band for so long.

But as I have said before, he completely exaggerates the amount he claims to have written which the band actually used. I notice he lumps Joe in with that (primary guitar arrangers who wrote a lot of the music). This again seems to minimise Glenn's contribution.

The 'standing up for Joe & Timothy' stuff has been discussed at length elsewhere. All I will say is they are grown men who are perfectly capable of standing up for themselves.

I suppose I shouldn't nitpick so much but there is so much here that should be addressed because of the half truths & inaccuracies, not to mention level of fairness.

The sycophantic tone of the last interview can be discerned from those questions you quoted. You didn't quote this response, however:

When I wrote that book, I really just wanted to tell my story. I didn’t want to hang any dirty laundry out, I didn’t want to point the finger any anybody or describe them in unflattering terms, because as a group, we did some amazing stuff together. We made great records, we toured the world numerous times. There were some great times involved in all that, and there’s nothing to be gained in attacking people in a book like that – it’s a small human being that does that, and I didn’t want to do that.

Anyone who has read this book can decide for themselves how truthful this is. Now I am out of this discussion. I have spent too much time on it.

sodascouts
07-25-2014, 09:09 PM
I missed that... wow. Does he really not think he painted anyone in an poor light?! Is there seriously even one person who read that book who doesn't think he makes Glenn, Don, and even Joe and Tim look bad in it? He paints Glenn as a bipolar sadist, Don as a petty egomaniac, Joe and Tim as spineless cowards who abandoned Felder when he needed them. Now he says in this interview he doesn't feel that way about them... well, sure could have fooled me. Even the obsequious interviewer got that impression from the book, as you can see from the questions he asks.

It's nice that he throws some compliments their way now. It would have been nicer if he hadn't disparaged them in his book in the first place. And yes, he did disparage them; to pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best.

I'm honestly stunned he can say with a straight face that his book doesn't "describe them in unflattering terms." Wow, just wow.

I think I have a new question to submit to his next chat!

sodascouts
07-25-2014, 10:02 PM
So, I decided to go get out my copy of Heaven and Hell and see if my memory was playing tricks on me, because I sure as heck thought I remembered some unflattering descriptions in that book.

I started by looking at the index, where I found a subcategory with the following title: "Glenn Frey - victimization by." Yes, that's right folks. A whole subcategory is dedicated to how horrible Glenn Frey was. Do we even need examples after that? However, since it's possible Felder didn't write the index, I pressed on.

After just a few minutes of thumbing through the book, I found these choice quotes. You can decide for yourself whether or not they are unflattering.

About Glenn:

"From one day to the next, [Glenn would] pick someone at random then humiliate them in order, I suppose, to make himself feel superior" (196).

"Some of [Glenn's] victimization was done in the name of humor, but it was usually done at someone else's expense, allowing him to play his power card and keep everyone around him subservient. It was an emotional problem that should have been addressed with therapy of some kind, and maybe Prozac, not more cocaine" (196-197).

"Glenn seemed to delight in mimicking people in a humiliating way" (197).

About Don:

"[Randy was] the sweetest-natured, gentlest of men, he was not someone to be easily riled, but every day in the studio, Don in particular seemed to find some reason for criticizing him" (176).

"One word best describes Don at that time: castigating" (177).

"In Montreal, when there was a screw-up on a hotel reservation, Don blamed our long-time road manager, Richie Fernandez, and ordered him fired. [...] Poor Richie, who'd been a devoted member of the crew from day one, was given his papers" (183).

"Don [Henley] always resented Joe [Vitale], who was a far better drummer" (284).

About Joe:

[After the firing] "I'd never been more in need of my old buddy Joe, but he wasn't there for me anymore. [....] Now, when push came to shove, he was going with the rest of the band and the money. He wasn't even going to try to fight for me. I felt betrayed" (319).

About Tim:

[After the firing] "The last conversation I had with any of the Eagles was with Tim, whom I'd also considered a good friend for many years. To my utter dismay, his response was similar to Joe's" (319).

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Those are just a few examples it took me about 15 minutes to find. It's not a comprehensive list of the digs he takes by any means. Yes, there are nice things, too, but when you slice someone with a knife, giving them a candy bar afterwards doesn't make the scar go away.

Felder is free to write about his personal experiences and judge his bandmates based on his perceptions of their behavior, but for him to say he never wrote anything "unflattering"... come freaking on. Felder can be such a nice guy, but when I read stuff like that, I get really disappointed in him.

UndertheWire
07-26-2014, 05:10 AM
I'd guess that Don hasn't read his book recently and so has forgotten some of the things he's written. Looking at the quotes that Soda's pulled out, it doesn't seem so bad but what was a problem for me was the lack of context and balance. I'm inclined to believe him that Glenn could be unpleasant to work with (there's enough hints from other sources) but he doesn't do too well at explaining why people put up with it. That would require writing something positive.

VAisForEagleLovers
07-26-2014, 10:36 AM
I'd guess that Don hasn't read his book recently and so has forgotten some of the things he's written. Looking at the quotes that Soda's pulled out, it doesn't seem so bad but what was a problem for me was the lack of context and balance. I'm inclined to believe him that Glenn could be unpleasant to work with (there's enough hints from other sources) but he doesn't do too well at explaining why people put up with it. That would require writing something positive.

You have a good point, UTW, the context of why people put up with it is missing. I have no doubts that Glenn is likely to be moody. I have no idea as I've never met him, let alone spent time around him. Yet it seems to me that the kind of person capable of writing great songs, the kind that knows human emotions, vulnerabilities, strengths, everything it takes to understand people well enough to write songs that touch the hearts of so very many, that person would be the type to feel it all as well. I'm not sure I'm explaining this well, but I'd think that such a person would feel the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. When compared to a person like me, who tends to think in terms of black and white, true and false, on and off, and everything needs to be logical, I can see where such a person would be termed 'moody'. Anyway, Felder did a really good job of writing in depth about the 'lowest of lows'. The context of the rest of it is missing. We all know there was and is a lot more to Glenn what Felder documented. Either Felder can't see it, or he chose the path that would sell more books.

As for his recent comments, what scares me is the possibility that he doesn't see the things he said as painting someone in a poor light, and not that he's forgotten what he said. I've said it before, but his discussion in his book about some of Joe's personal hygiene habits (or lack of), well, fans didn't need to know that. Not at all. If I were Joe, I'd certainly never speak to Felder ever again, and if I were forced to, I'd tell him off before punching him. I'm not sure how Felder can sit in front of an interviewer and blame Glenn and Don as the reasons Joe won't have anything to do with him. I would quote the parts I mean, but the thought of going back through that book and rereading parts of it makes me nauseous.

MaryCalifornia
07-26-2014, 02:21 PM
Good points UTW and Dreamer. I'm sure with time, age, and an updated PR strategy, Felder's perspective on people and long-ago events has evolved, which is natural, understandable, and his prerogative. Unfortunately for him, there is that book, which he will never get away from. What I really want is to get a look at the original draft of Heaven and Hell...I wonder if Felder is now thankful that it actually wasn't published as originally written.

As for Joe and Timothy's treatment of Felder, the HOTE doc mentions the extent of the band tensions that Timothy was subjected to when he joined in 1977. Fast forward to 2001, and those tensions WERE STILL THERE - 24 freakin' years later!!! My theory on Joe and Tim is that they were just so RELIEVED to have the source of much of the tension out of the band. It opened up a new horizon for them. Now it was just the two of them and the two big stars - a tight little foursome that would be the Eagles. I'm now wondering if Felder's departure was what Glenn needed in order to write and record a new album. Joe and Tim were probably so excited to be embarking on making a new Eagles album and the prospect of touring without Felder and all of the friction he caused, that what they thought of him personally was completely irrelevant.

SilverMoon
07-28-2014, 11:59 PM
Glenn and Don Henley come across badly in History of the Eagles. From what I’ve read, a lot of people, even those who like the documentary, now have a bad opinion of them. And it is not Don Felder’s fault, he is not the author of the documentary. It is an authorized documentary, so they only have themselves to blame.

In the documentary, they blame all the tensions in the band on the drugs and Don Felder. But while making Long Road Out of Eden, the Eagles argued a lot and ended up recording their parts separately and sending the files to the studio. They weren’t doing drugs (that we know of) and Don Felder wasn’t in the band anymore. In a 2007 interview with Independent.ie, when talking about the album, Don Henley said: “Frankly, Joe and Timothy didn't bring in a lot of stuff. We were waiting for it, but it never came." Was it necessary to say that publicly? He really made them look bad.

UndertheWire
07-29-2014, 04:30 AM
I don't want to take this too far off topic so I'm posting a reply in the documentary thread.

chaim
07-29-2014, 05:46 AM
What's annoying about that writer and the interview is it gives the impression that Felder provided the bedrock of the Eagles sound with Henley (mostly) and Frey just providing vocals and lyrics for the music that Felder came up with. In doing so they ignore all the work that was done before Felder joined the band, even though he still plays some of those earlier songs in his set.


Well, it's not just that one interview. I have mentioned a few times an interview with Felder from the One Of These Nights era. Here's, again, how he described the band's songwriting in 1975, when he had only made his first album with the band:

"Somebody will have an idea and spit it out, whether it's one line, two bars, no words but a chord change, words but no chord change. Henley's a really far-out lyricist. He and Glenn [Frey] work really well on the lyric part of it, and Bernie [Leadon] and I work primarily on the musical end of it."

For example, Don Felder cites the procedure behind 'One of These Nights':

"Glenn would go 'One of these nights, cha cha chachacha cha cha chachacha,' and that's it, no chord changes. Then I sat down and played bass on it and dubbed the bass part to it and it was just me and Henley and Glenn sitting around and jamming. It's just being around, listening to ideas, criticizing ideas, and just working together.

"That's usually how it comes together on certain things; on other things Randy [Meisner] and I will work on like 'Too Many Hands' or Henley and I will work on like 'Visions'. The ones that come together as part of a band instead of one guy writing the song and presenting it are the ones that come out best. There is just a certain magic this band has when it works together."

I like Don, but the guy has never been Mr. Modest when it comes to describing the band's creative process. Either the band wrote songs together or he wrote them with one of the guys. It's hard for me to believe that Hollywood Waltz (initiated by Bernie and his brother), Journey Of The Sorcerer, Lyin' Eyes, Take It To the Limit, After The Thrill Is Gone and I Wish You Peace were written by the whole band with Felder and Bernie "working on the musical end of it",

chaim
07-29-2014, 06:55 AM
I'd guess that Don hasn't read his book recently and so has forgotten some of the things he's written. Looking at the quotes that Soda's pulled out, it doesn't seem so bad but what was a problem for me was the lack of context and balance. I'm inclined to believe him that Glenn could be unpleasant to work with (there's enough hints from other sources) but he doesn't do too well at explaining why people put up with it. That would require writing something positive.

This is always a difficult issue. It seems to me that often in a band there's a leader (or two) who has to keep his eye on the big picture while the others are interested only in their own little contributions ("I want my precious song on the album"). Eagles, of course, wasn't necessarily like this, because when you listen to the Hotel California album, it's obvious that Joe was very much a team player from the very start and interested in the songs.

But I feel that sometimes these leaders are treated unfairly in discussions about the bands. It's easier to be a nice guy when you don't have to stress about what's the best move for the band next etc. It is possible that there were times when Glenn, as the founder/leader of the band, felt this kind of stress and was sometimes in a bad mood also because of this. In his book Don talks about what went on in his head in any given situation ("I wondered if I still had his phone number so I could ask if there's anything I could do"), but Glenn is judged only by his behavior and Don doesn't seem to think that some of Glenn's "difficult behavior" could've been a result of pressure. Glenn was also in a situation where he was trying to keep four egos around him happy and took a step back. This is something Felder has never discussed. Well, actually he has mentioned it, but he said that the reason for it was that Henley was so great that Glenn had to step back.:hilarious:

UndertheWire
07-29-2014, 11:06 AM
I thought that Don Felder did show some understanding (in his book) of the kind of pressure Glenn was under during the late seventies and how it contributed to the bad behaviour. However, this is probably with the benefit of hindsight, maturity and years of therapy himself.

chaim
07-29-2014, 01:58 PM
I thought that Don Felder did show some understanding (in his book) of the kind of pressure Glenn was under during the late seventies and how it contributed to the bad behaviour. However, this is probably with the benefit of hindsight, maturity and years of therapy himself.

You're probably right. Maybe he did, but I just don't remember it.

sodascouts
07-29-2014, 01:59 PM
This is always a difficult issue. It seems to me that often in a band there's a leader (or two) who has to keep his eye on the big picture while the others are interested only in their own little contributions ("I want my precious song on the album"). Eagles, of course, wasn't necessarily like this, because when you listen to the Hotel California album, it's obvious that Joe was very much a team player from the very start and interested in the songs.

But I feel that sometimes these leaders are treated unfairly in discussions about the bands. It's easier to be a nice guy when you don't have to stress about what's the best move for the band next etc. It is possible that there were times when Glenn, as the founder/leader of the band, felt this kind of stress and was sometimes in a bad mood also because of this. In his book Don talks about what went on in his head in any given situation ("I wondered if I still had his phone number so I could ask if there's anything I could do"), but Glenn is judged only by his behavior and Don doesn't seem to think that some of Glenn's "difficult behavior" could've been a result of pressure. Glenn was also in a situation where he was trying to keep four egos around him happy and took a step back. This is something Felder has never discussed. Well, actually he has mentioned it, but he said that the reason for it was that Henley was so great that Glenn had to step back.:hilarious:

Agreed. He even claims that despite the fact that Glenn willingly stepped back, he secretly resented it. However, I think that in that case, Felder might have been projecting his own resentment at not having a more prominent role in the band onto Glenn. It's not as if Glenn ever SAID he was resentful; that was Felder telling us what he believed Glenn really felt (only Felder stated it as fact rather than the speculation it was). I take any of Felder's "mind-reading" of Glenn's "secret thoughts" with a grain of salt.

UndertheWire
07-30-2014, 09:34 AM
I tried something this morning. I know very little about how songs are constructed but it seems to me that Don Felder and Glen Frey would have a very different approach to arranging and I should be able to tell the difference. I listened to a couple of Don's early solo tracks (Heavy Metal and Bad Girls) and a couple of Glenn's (All Those Lies and That Girl) and then I went back to The Long Run album to see which tracks were most similar. I was trying not to pay too much attention to the lyrics or vocal melody, other than the way it fitted in with the underlying music. For Don, it was Those Shoes and for Glenn, I Can't Tell You Why. The styles and the structures are completely different.

With Those Shoes and Don's solo tracks, it is very layered with the vocal over a heavy beat and guitars. There's a lot going on but it's all happening at the same time. The vocal isn't even that important. I can't think of a single solo track by Glenn that has those characteristics.

I know that Timothy brought I Can't Tell You Why but the arrangement is similar to those solo tracks from Glenn. As Timothy describes it, it "has a lot of air". Rather than a layering of instruments, the instruments weave in and out, an accent here, a pause there but they are there to support the vocal. Even the guitar solo is melodic and like another vocal. Of course, it could be something that Glenn picked up from someone else, possibly Bill Szymczyk, and took forward into his solo career.

I'm sorry, I'm not very good at describing this. I don't have the musical vocabulary.

Bringing this back to Don's interview, I find it easy to believe that Don Felder was the main contributor of the music for Those Shoes and Victim of Love but I'd need a lot of convincing for Sad Café and King of Hollywood.

SilverMoon
02-07-2015, 11:52 PM
Yesterday was the anniversary of Don Felder’s firing :-( and Eagles Fastlane posted on Facebook a link to an article about it. Musician and songwriter Bruce Gaitsch, who co-wrote many songs on two of Timothy’s solo albums, commented on that post. Here’s what he wrote:

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/10_zps979162e2.jpeg

https://www.facebook.com/eaglesfans/posts/827575537314996

This is the article on the anniversary: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-eagles-fire-don-felder/

Here is Bruce Gaitsch’s Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gaitsch

I agree with Bruce Gaitsch. Don Felder is IRREPLACEABLE.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-08-2015, 12:11 AM
SM, Yes, I saw all the articles, tweets, Google alerts, etc that dropped onto my various accounts yesterday, but elected to NOT post it on our Facebook page. I did last year and it had less than five interactions. I had other things to post and one thing I've learned, if you post too much, people Unfollow (not Unlike) your posts to avoid having their Newsfeeds fill up.

It's been 14 years, and for me personally, it's gets a little wearing to try and generate the same discussion over and over. It's a controversial subject among Eagles fans and for the majority of people on this board, they've pretty much already stated their opinions. I know I've given my opinion on it over and over and see no need to again ruffle feathers for the sake of it. Mr. Gaitsch is entitled to his opinion.

thelastresort
02-08-2015, 08:07 AM
I'll say it - apart from about 5 or 6 songs when Felder was dead on in concert I genuinely can't tell an audible difference for his absence. That's the trouble with being the type of guitarist Felder is: Smith can copy him note for note. You could never in a million years replace Walsh's sound but Felder's you reasonably can. The biggest hole left for me is the fact that they lost his capabilities on things like mandolin and steel pedal. I feel for the iconic loss of him and Walsh, the Hotel Cali outro and all that but if you were to give a selection of the 'they're just a cover band' outraged brigade two audio tapes (one Smith playing Hotel Cali and one Felder playing Hotel Cali) I would be amazed if anyone could tell them apart and give a reason why. Some obviously would, but not many.

chaim
02-08-2015, 09:14 AM
IMO 95% of the people who say that "Felder is irreplaceable" couldn't tell whether it's Steuart or Don playing if they didn't see it.
In another thread I posted a comment from someone who said in the YouTube comments below the studio version of ICTYW that a trained ear can tell the difference between Felder and Smith. He was referring to Don's lead playing in that song. So, this trained ear can't tell the difference between Felder and Frey? :???:

UndertheWire
02-08-2015, 10:18 AM
There may well be a difference between the Eagles now and then, but how much of that is down to the passage of time? When they play the same songs for so long, it must be hard to keep it fresh.

thelastresort
02-08-2015, 10:30 AM
IMO 95% of the people who say that "Felder is irreplaceable" couldn't tell whether it's Steuart or Don playing if they didn't see it.
In another thread I posted a comment from someone who said in the YouTube comments below the studio version of ICTYW that a trained ear can tell the difference between Felder and Smith. He was referring to Don's lead playing in that song. So, this trained ear can't tell the difference between Felder and Frey? :???:

Agreed. Do you have a link to that ICTYW video?

sodascouts
02-08-2015, 02:30 PM
Apparently they must not have sounded like the Eagles from 1972-1974 either, since Felder hadn't yet joined the band! ;)

If you want to hear something that sounds like a cover band, check out Felder doing Eagles songs during his solo concerts.

chaim
02-08-2015, 03:54 PM
Agreed. Do you have a link to that ICTYW video?

You don't have to scroll down too much. Posted my someone called "desertswo".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qpZ5GC1ys

UndertheWire
02-08-2015, 04:41 PM
If you want to hear something that sounds like a cover band, check out Felder doing Eagles songs during his solo concerts.
No, his vocals aren't good enough for a cover band.

chaim
02-08-2015, 04:55 PM
No, his vocals aren't good enough for a cover band.

As much as I like to criticize Don for his various statements, I think his voice is rather nice for a guitarist who never really sang lead.

Funk 50
02-08-2015, 05:17 PM
Yesterday was the anniversary of Don Felder’s firing and Eagles Fastlane posted on Facebook a link to an article about it. Musician and songwriter Bruce Gaitsch, who co-wrote many songs on two of Timothy’s solo albums, commented on that post. Here’s what he wrote:

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/SilverMoon333/TF/10_zps979162e2.jpeg

This is the article on the anniversary: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-e...re-don-felder/

Here is Bruce Gaitsch’s Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Gaitsch

I agree with Bruce Gaitsch. Don Felder is IRREPLACEABLE.


I wonder if there are any Felder fans that don't like The Eagles. I've never heard anybody say his solo stuff is better then his Eagles stuff. They must love the Eagles and hate them too. :eyebrow:


Who was the best addition to the Eagles line up?

1: Joe Walsh
2: Timothy B Schmit
Last: Don Felder

Who was the greatest loss to the Eagles?

1: Randy Meisner
2: Bernie Leadon
last: Don Felder

Who is/was the most insignificant member of the Eagles?

1: Don Felder


The Eagles don't sound like a copy band. They sound like a bunch of old men performing tracks they first performed when they were young men.

But they're still fillin' 'and still thrillin' :ziplip:

chaim
02-08-2015, 05:34 PM
IMO Felder was more important than Timothy, but Joe may have been the best addition since he not only brought some nice songwriting and guitar playing, but keyboard stuff as well. Joe's electric piano and organ play a huge part in New Kid In Town. A HUGE part.
Felder played organ in The Long Run, of course, but anyone could've played that. He's just following Glenn's rhythm guitar part. It adds nothing to the song. (or is Glenn following Don's organ part?)

thelastresort
02-08-2015, 05:42 PM
He's just following Glenn's rhythm guitar part. It adds nothing to the song. (or is Glenn following Don's organ part?)

Or according to some they all just followed Otis Clay's Tryin' to Live My Life Without You ;)

chaim
02-08-2015, 05:46 PM
Or according to some they all just followed Otis Clay's Tryin' to Live My Life Without You ;)

Wow! I wasn't aware of this song. Sounds like the same chord progression. But Glenn's rhythm part is slightly different IMO. About the only thing that is slightly different!:hilarious:

VAisForEagleLovers
02-08-2015, 07:27 PM
The Eagles don't sound like a copy band. They sound like a bunch of old men performing tracks they first performed when they were young men.

But they're still fillin' 'and still thrillin' :ziplip:

F50, aren't you the one that said you haven't been to see them in concert recently? Haven't seen the HOTE tour? Maybe I have you confused with someone else. I've been to several, and not once did I feel they sounded like a bunch of old men. In fact, the most overheard comment when leaving an arena is that they sound exactly the same as they did when they were younger.

thelastresort
02-08-2015, 07:42 PM
Both times I saw them last summer they were faultless vocally, Lyin' Eyes and D-D/D Reprise especially were just as good as their renditions of them back in the 1970s. The only one that was a bit off was TBS's voice on I Can't Tell You Why the first time around, however eight days later that was back to being as good as ever. Quite incredible when you bear in mind their age.

sodascouts
02-08-2015, 09:37 PM
As much as I like to criticize Don for his various statements, I think his voice is rather nice for a guitarist who never really sang lead.

True, and I don't mean to diminish Felder's skills, which are considerable.

However, the accusation of "copy band" is far more applicable to a man singing songs like "Peaceful Easy Feeling", "Witchy Woman," and "Take It Easy" live which he didn't even contribute to in the studio, nevermind vocally, than it is applicable to the Eagles doing their songs without Felder playing guitar.

Funk 50
02-09-2015, 06:22 PM
F50, aren't you the one that said you haven't been to see them in concert recently? Haven't seen the HOTE tour? Maybe I have you confused with someone else. I've been to several, and not once did I feel they sounded like a bunch of old men. In fact, the most overheard comment when leaving an arena is that they sound exactly the same as they did when they were younger.

The last time I saw the Eagles was in 2011. First time 1996. I never saw them in the 70s.

None of the tracks that they performed at both shows were better the second time around. They've always put on a great show but their musical peak was almost 40 years ago.

I think anybody that says they sound the same as they did in the 70s is deluded. Fans are saying they should call it quits within the next five years. Nobody was suggesting that in the 70s.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-09-2015, 06:41 PM
The last time I saw the Eagles was in 2011. First time 1996. I never saw them in the 70s.

None of the tracks that they performed at both shows were better the second time around. They've always put on a great show but their musical peak was almost 40 years ago.

I think anybody that says they sound the same as they did in the 70s is deluded. Fans are saying they should call it quits within the next five years. Nobody was suggesting that in the 70s.

I don't doubt they had their peak in the 70's, however that's a far cry from sounding like a bunch of old men now. Perhaps they don't sound as good as they did back then, but you made them sound like a bunch of geezers on the stage pretending to be young again. I'm not sure what fans are saying they should call it quits in the next five years. I'm thinking they will of their own accord, and some on here have agreed. For me, as long as the show they put on is worth the money and effort it takes to get to a show, I say they should keep on keeping on. Rather selfish of me since I assume they have other things they want to do in regards to their families.

At any rate, there are plenty that I've spoken to that went to their concerts in the 70's and have gone to shows on this last tour, and they all said they were better or just as good now. Of course, they meant the entire show and not just the vocals. Two of the men I'm thinking of had never seen them with Joe. The one lady I spoke with in Des Moines said the show she saw in the 70's, she felt there had been something wrong, they'd all seemed like they were in really bad moods. And of course, pleasure just experienced is usually perceived to be better than pleasure remembered, and hearing and seeing these guys is definitely a pleasure.

thelastresort
02-09-2015, 06:53 PM
I think anybody that says they sound the same as they did in the 70s is deluded. Fans are saying they should call it quits within the next five years. Nobody was suggesting that in the 70s.

Not deluded at all, the 5+ hours of evidence I saw and heard only a few months ago backs up what I think. I have no idea how they do it but they are absolutely flawless: obviously not as energetic (no conveniently-placed lines of coke!), but technically still as good as ever. The only reason I am not opposed to their retirement soon is that I want them to go out on a high, not to cheapen themselves by having to drop complex songs and cull setlists. In five years time they will all be well in excess of 70. They will lose that spark by then and alas may even have other health concerns. They deserve to be able to enjoy the rest of their lives having basically devoted over five tireless decades to it. They've proved their worth.

sodascouts
02-09-2015, 08:08 PM
I don't know of any fans calling for their retirement, but I don't doubt some exist out there. However, they probably haven't been to a show in years either.

chaim
02-10-2015, 06:33 AM
I must say that this was the first time I heard that people wish they would soon retire. With KISS it's a totally different matter, because Paul has lost his voice after abusing for decades with the between-songs screaming. So I've seen a lot of comments about KISS quitting. But not Eagles.

UndertheWire
02-10-2015, 12:13 PM
This is a funny place for the discussion of whether they should retire. My belief is that as individuals, they don't sound as good as they did in the 1970s but as a group they are almost as good, it just takes more people.

Brooke
02-11-2015, 01:05 PM
I haven't heard anyone say they wish they would retire either. I've certainly enjoyed the shows I've been to in the past few years and was amazed each time at how great they sounded! No, they don't sound exactly like they sounded back in the 70's or even 90's for that matter, but they still sound fantastic and it seems everyone in the arenas I've been to were in agreement by the standing ovations and cheers and applause they received.

Yes, they will quit sometime, and I will be a sad, sad person cause I've loved their music for so many years. The sad part is that we are all getting older and what that brings. But, the music will live on and never be forgotten!

VAisForEagleLovers
02-11-2015, 10:37 PM
Back to actually talking about Don Felder in the Press, here's an interview he did recently. I haven't read the entire thing, but he's spot-on with his first answer!

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/don-felder-welcomes-us-high-resolution-hotel

VAisForEagleLovers
02-11-2015, 11:00 PM
Hmmm...in the interview he said Henley told him to do an acoustic intro to HC for HFO. In his book he said it was Glenn (page 258).

WalshFan88
02-12-2015, 02:11 AM
As much as I love Don Felder and miss him onstage, I also dread the day they retire. My favorite band of all time.

Funk 50
02-12-2015, 01:44 PM
Thank You so much for posting the interview VAisForEagleLovers


http://www.soundbard.com/soundbard/don-felder-welcomes-us-to-the-high-resolution-hotel-such-a-lovely-place/


"Hotel Felderfornia!"

Great to hear that Felder is continuing his abstinence of dissing the Eagles.

Delighted he's almost obligated to do some Airborne material during his next tour. I'd prefer Still Alive or Never Surrender to Bad Girls or All Of Me but anything non Eagles is a positive move. Nobody seems to be yelling for Visions. :grin:

..and Don is mistaken, Joe played Hotel California without a pick. Mostly thumb but he couldn't do those great winding arpeggios that ended his solo with a pick.

http://vimeo.com/32659326

Did I mention that Felder made up the intro on the spot! :thud:

shunlvswx
02-12-2015, 01:58 PM
If I remembered, Don didn't play with a pick either on HFO HC.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-14-2015, 09:49 PM
It's a good interview from Don's perspective. He clarifies how the ending to HC got written. About a year ago if you remember, he said one thing and what he said in the documentary was another thing, and this describes it way better.

Mr. Voket, on the other hand, could use a good proof-reader.

http://newtownbee.com/news/0001/11/30/eagles-don-felder-talks-hotel-california-tour-ahea/253583

UndertheWire
02-15-2015, 09:04 AM
It's a good interview from Don's perspective. He clarifies how the ending to HC got written. About a year ago if you remember, he said one thing and what he said in the documentary was another thing, and this describes it way better.

Mr. Voket, on the other hand, could use a good proof-reader.

http://newtownbee.com/news/0001/11/30/eagles-don-felder-talks-hotel-california-tour-ahea/253583
That's the kind of interview/article I don't like. I know it's a promotional piece and he has to talk up himself and his achievements but it's misleading and makes it sound like he played a much bigger part in the music of everyone listed than was true. It's the kind of piece that makes me doubt his integrity.

And then there's the classic:

My show is about 65 or 70 percent songs I either co-wrote, recorded or played live with the Eagles songs for the 27 years I was in the band, but I do have some new songs in my set from my latest CD.Looking at his most recent setlist (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/don-felder/2015/river-cree-casino-edmonton-ab-canada-73ca924d.html). Out of a total 17 songs, 13 were "Eagles" songs (76%), 3 of which he co-wrote, 9 of which he recorded, and 13 of which he played live for, at most, 10 years.

Funk 50
02-15-2015, 10:49 AM
It's a good interview from Don's perspective. He clarifies how the ending to HC got written. About a year ago if you remember, he said one thing and what he said in the documentary was another thing, and this describes it way better.

Mr. Voket, on the other hand, could use a good proof-reader.

http://newtownbee.com/news/0001/11/30/eagles-don-felder-talks-hotel-california-tour-ahea/253583

Thanks for the link VAisForEagleLovers.

A new anecdote from Don although I'm not sure if he actually got to play guitar for Michael Jackson in London, plus there's a little extra to his Tom Petty story.

He didn't just give Tom Petty guitar lessons, it looks like Don's responsible for him becoming a front man.

As for the 65-70% Eagles songs. Don's a great guitar player but a lousy mathematician, with a propensity for exaggeration.:)

While he was still an Eagle, one of Don's anecdotes about the Hotel California guitar solo/duet was, and I'm paraphrasing here, a passing Henley saying "It's great! but I think you can do better, keep working on it." Henley returned some time later, saying. "Yeah, that's more like it" when it was exactly the same as before he left.

Will Don ever let us hear his original demo of Hotel California?

Freypower
02-15-2015, 06:14 PM
I can expand on how he says he 'enjoys' (present tense) collaborations with people like the Gibbs. He played on He's A Liar from Living Eyes back in 1981. He does a nice solo. That is the only time he ever worked with them. I am a huge Bee Gees fan.

The singer and guitar slinger, who is equally comfortable as a songwriter and producer, has also been a go-to resource for such diverse talents as Bob Seger, Alice Cooper, Kenny Loggins, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Boz Scaggs, Warren Zevon, Joni Mitchell, Vince Gill, Stevie Wonder, Tommy Shaw of Styx, and Sir Elton John.

If someone can tell me when Felder has ever worked with Stevie Wonder or Sir Elton John I would be very grateful. I am also dubious about the Seger & Cooper claims.

Notice also the claim that he 'left' the band.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-15-2015, 06:25 PM
I can expand on how he says he 'enjoys' (present tense) collaborations with people like the Gibbs. He played on He's A Liar from Living Eyes back in 1981. He does a nice solo. That is the only time he ever worked with them. I am a huge Bee Gees fan.

The singer and guitar slinger, who is equally comfortable as a songwriter and producer, has also been a go-to resource for such diverse talents as Bob Seger, Alice Cooper, Kenny Loggins, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Boz Scaggs, Warren Zevon, Joni Mitchell, Vince Gill, Stevie Wonder, Tommy Shaw of Styx, and Sir Elton John.

If someone can tell me when Felder has ever worked with Stevie Wonder or Sir Elton John I would be very grateful. I am also dubious about the Seger & Cooper claims.

Notice also the claim that he 'left' the band.

He did play on one of Seger's albums. I'll find the info.

ETA: Even Now and Boomtown Blues on The Distance album. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Distance_(Bob_Seger_album)

Freypower
02-15-2015, 06:43 PM
Actually he's on Ain't Got No Money from Stranger In Town as well, but playing on a couple of albums doesn't make him a 'go to' man. Glenn is also on The Distance as he is on both Stranger In Town & Against The Wind. So this claim could be made for Glenn too. And we are talking three decades ago.

UndertheWire
02-15-2015, 06:45 PM
According to Allmusic.com... (http://www.allmusic.com/artist/don-felder-mn0000798965/credits)

Felder played guitar of Bob Seger's "The Distance" in 1982 (Danny Kortchmar also has a guitar credit) and "Stranger in Town" in 1978. I don't get a match for Elton John but the Eagles did an encore with Elton around 1975. It looks like he played on one song each for Barbra Streisland and Diana Ross. From his book, he played one session with Joni Mitchell but wasn't sure he made it onto the final track. Of course, the list may be incomplete or he may be uncredited.

ETA: That doesn't seem to be that credible a source as it gives him a credit on the first two Eagles albums.

UndertheWire
02-15-2015, 07:17 PM
That list of artists may come from Felder's own website, so he probably has worked with all of them. This is the text:

In fact, it was Leadon who encouraged him to come out to Los Angeles, where Felder found himself working both with The Eagles and in both sessions and live performances for numerous music legends spanning the musical spectrum: The Bee Gees, Bob Seger, Michael Jackson, Alice Cooper, Kenny Loggins, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Boz Scaggs, Warren Zevon, Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Vince Gill, Stevie Wonder, Elton John, Paul Simon, Diana Ross, Barbara Streisand – and even and old friend, Steven Stills.

Freypower
02-15-2015, 07:56 PM
Decades ago. If he did work with Elton it was probably during the mid 80s when Elton's work was on the decline. That isn't a reflection on Felder; he is probably on an album I didn't buy because Elton had gone so far downhill.

He has not worked with any of these artists in recent times. So he's entitled to say he worked with them, but perhaps he should give an indication of when it happened.

chaim
02-16-2015, 03:55 AM
I'm an Alice Cooper fan. I have all his albums. But I'm not a trivia freak. And I don't know anything about his tours. So this was the first time I heard that Don has been a "go-to resource" for Alice Cooper. Does anyone know anything about this? When I googled them together, the only result I got was one gig where he, Alice and Johnny Depp appeared together.

Freypower
02-16-2015, 04:37 PM
I'm an Alice Cooper fan. I have all his albums. But I'm not a trivia freak. And I don't know anything about his tours. So this was the first time I heard that Don has been a "go-to resource" for Alice Cooper. Does anyone know anything about this? When I googled them together, the only result I got was one gig where he, Alice and Johnny Depp appeared together.

I assumed as with Elton John this was session work & as I said, I have never heard of such a collaboration.

chaim
02-16-2015, 05:10 PM
I assumed as with Elton John this was session work & as I said, I have never heard of such a collaboration.

I think I've browsed through all the player credits at some point on all the Cooper albums. I don't remember any names, but I'd like to think that I had noticed a name like "Don Felder". If he's played on a Cooper album I somehow missed his name, or he wasn't credited.

Funk 50
02-16-2015, 06:34 PM
I'm an Alice Cooper fan. I have all his albums. But I'm not a trivia freak. And I don't know anything about his tours. So this was the first time I heard that Don has been a "go-to resource" for Alice Cooper. Does anyone know anything about this? When I googled them together, the only result I got was one gig where he, Alice and Johnny Depp appeared together.

Golf!

Freypower
02-16-2015, 07:01 PM
Golf!

Umm - yeah. They've probably played golf together. That was my first thought as well. Then I thought surely Felder wouldn't claim he had worked with someone like Alice Cooper when all he has done is play golf with him. Surely not. And I am still scratching my head over the Elton John claim. As someone else said, there was one appearance with Elton at Wembley in 1975. That doesn't really translate to being a 'go to' man for him, does it.

Funk 50
02-16-2015, 07:16 PM
Felder found himself working both with The Eagles and in both sessions and live performances for numerous music legends spanning the musical spectrum: The Bee Gees, Bob Seger, Michael Jackson, Alice Cooper, Kenny Loggins, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Boz Scaggs, Warren Zevon, Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Vince Gill, Stevie Wonder, Elton John, Paul Simon, Diana Ross, Barbara Streisand – and even and old friend, Steven Stills.

[Thanks UndertheWire]

There were a few surprises on this list for me too. I've got all Nicks and Zevon's albums. Quite a few CSN and Elton John albums too. I sure I would have noticed Don's name listed in the album credits.

DR and BS worked a bit with the brothers Gibb. Felder was selling real estate during the 80s.

I remember seeing a photo of the Eagles doing an encore with Elton John on piano. It may have been from Wembley 1975. Would that count?

My favourite tracks with Felder providing guitar are Stevie Nicks' The Highwayman (with a brilliant Henley harmony vocal too) and Joe Vitale's funky reggae duet with Marilyn Martin, Man Gonna Love You.

Not that much of a fan of Felder's leads but I love his pedal steel playing. The Last Resort and Walsh's Second Hand Store are fine examples.


I'm sure if Alice Cooper ever fancies a round of Golf, Felder's the "go to" guy as he hasn't much else on :thumbsup:

UndertheWire
02-16-2015, 07:25 PM
The list probably came from Don or his website, the "go-to" part is down to the writer.

It reminds me of the kind of job application you put together when your experience is a bit limited - you include every workshop or work experience that you've ever done - and then as your career progresses, you start to trim it until eventually you only write in depth on your most recent jobs because noone's going to offer you a job based on something you did thirty years ago. It's just that Don hasn't done that edit.

VAisForEagleLovers
02-16-2015, 08:24 PM
The list probably came from Don or his website, the "go-to" part is down to the writer.

It reminds me of the kind of job application you put together when your experience is a bit limited - you include every workshop or work experience that you've ever done - and then as your career progresses, you start to trim it until eventually you only write in depth on your most recent jobs because noone's going to offer you a job based on something you did thirty years ago. It's just that Don hasn't done that edit.

Or he didn't give it at all and the writer did an internet search that may or may not have been accurate.

sodascouts
02-16-2015, 08:46 PM
In today's age of lazy journalism where both fact and fiction are parroted endlessly as "news" from one site to the next, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were the case, VA. I have seen so many errors perpetuated by people who do Google searches and don't fact check before they post; each erroneous repost gives the false info more "credence". Anyone who is a member of Facebook sees daily proof of this with all the hoaxes circulated there that are believed by so many people.

I don't believe Felder would lie about who he'd worked with in the past. He has no reason to do so.

Freypower
02-16-2015, 08:51 PM
In today's age of lazy journalism where both fact and fiction are parroted endlessly as "news" from one site to the next, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were the case, VA. I have seen so many errors perpetuated by people who do Google searches and don't fact check before they post; each erroneous repost gives the false info more "credence". Anyone who is a member of Facebook sees daily proof of this with all the hoaxes circulated there that are believed by so many people.

I don't believe Felder would lie about who he'd worked with in the past. He has no reason to do so.

Perhaps not but a couple of us who have a lot of these artists' work are struggling to come up with any instance of Felder working with them.

Freypower
02-16-2015, 08:52 PM
[Thanks UndertheWire]

There were a few surprises on this list for me too. I've got all Nicks and Zevon's albums. Quite a few CSN and Elton John albums too. I sure I would have noticed Don's name listed in the album credits.

DR and BS worked a bit with the brothers Gibb. Felder was selling real estate during the 80s.

I remember seeing a photo of the Eagles doing an encore with Elton John on piano. It may have been from Wembley 1975. Would that count?

My favourite tracks with Felder providing guitar are Stevie Nicks' The Highwayman (with a brilliant Henley harmony vocal too) and Joe Vitale's funky reggae duet with Marilyn Martin, Man Gonna Love You.

Not that much of a fan of Felder's leads but I love his pedal steel playing. The Last Resort and Walsh's Second Hand Store are fine examples.


I'm sure if Alice Cooper ever fancies a round of Golf, Felder's the "go to" guy as he hasn't much else on :thumbsup:

Of course Wembley 1975 doesn't count as 'work'. Not in my view, anyway.

I gave the specific example of his one session with the Bee Gees. I had that album. I still have that one track, He's A Liar.

Four out of five of the Eagles 1980 album are on Zevon's Bad Luck Streak In Dancing School album. Felder plays on the track A Certain Girl.

chaim
02-17-2015, 04:04 AM
If someone else did some research and compiled the list of artists, I wonder where he/she got Alice Cooper's name. With "Go-to" or not, Alice (or Elton) shouldn't be there at all if they were just one-off appearances on the same stage on one or two songs.

As for job application, I think that Don is at a point in his career where he wouldn't have to list every artist he's played a song with on stage. He's an Eagles guitarist who wrote Hotel California (:hilarious:). I don't think Alice Cooper brings that much more respect for his body of work.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "go-to" part did come from Don. There's similar stuff in his book. "Would you play on my album. I could really used your input". It fits his style - "people really want me to play for them" kind of thing.

UndertheWire
02-17-2015, 07:54 AM
I see that list of artists as a kind of validation - he's trying to show that he is valued beyond his work with the Eagles. I believe the list came from Felder (it's on his website) and that it's accurate but that most of the time he was playing on a single track or as part of a charity benefit. I find it quite touching that he keeps track of every big name he's worked with.

Freypower
02-17-2015, 04:09 PM
According to Billboard he's on Diana Ross' Eaten Alive. This was released in 1985.

http://www.billboard.com/artist/301116/don-felder/biography

Billboard makes no mention of Stevie Wonder, Elton John or Alice Cooper. Neither does allmusic:

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/don-felder-mn0000798965/credits

And the reality is that all this was back in the 80s.

Topkat
02-23-2015, 09:20 AM
I hear Don is doing several appearances with the Doobie Brothers on their current tour, as well as with Styx, so he manages to keep himself busy.

I don't think he's sitting around waiting for a golf game, but he certainly can if he wants to.

As for the credits, I also heard Tim rattle off many albums his voice is on where he received no credit on the album, ( most noteworthy, CSN ) but I'm sure both Tim & Don were paid well for their work. They do not list every musician in liner notes on albums, There are usually just too many to mention

VAisForEagleLovers
03-04-2015, 11:45 PM
Don is jammin' and golfin'...

http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/2015/03/04/rock-stars-gather-patrick-warburton-celebrity-golf-tournament/24401477/

VAisForEagleLovers
03-07-2015, 09:41 AM
Video interview from the Rock Legends Cruise...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EePlTLjEyTE

Topkat
03-07-2015, 02:24 PM
Nice interview with Felder. Wish I could do one of those cruises! Especially after the winter we've had. Tell me how does Felder have no wrinkles??? If he had work done, it looks pretty good.LOL
I would sure love to see him with Joe again, but I guess that won't be happenin'

chaim
03-10-2015, 04:48 AM
When I choose to forget all the Glenn bashing/ignoring Felder has done and the "me me me" stuff in relation to Eagles that irritates me, and watch current interviews with an open mind, he's an absolute joy to watch and listen to.

Funk 50
03-10-2015, 02:45 PM
Well done Chaim!

As much as I like to see the guys smiling and looking cheerful, I find Felder's default, inane grin really annoying, especially when he's singing Henley's lyrics. :shrug:

Brooke
03-10-2015, 04:32 PM
Nice interview! Don looks great, but has obviously had tons of work done!

ETA: He says he will be on AXS tv with Styx next Sunday-Mar. 15th. Must set my dvr!

https://twitter.com/AXSTV/status/574751649174020098/photo/1

SilverMoon
03-11-2015, 10:18 AM
A very nice interview! I love Don’s smile!

UndertheWire
03-11-2015, 10:22 AM
He has a picture of Ringo Starr on his chest! That's someone else who is looking good.

SilverMoon
03-11-2015, 10:23 AM
I'll say it - apart from about 5 or 6 songs when Felder was dead on in concert I genuinely can't tell an audible difference for his absence. That's the trouble with being the type of guitarist Felder is: Smith can copy him note for note. You could never in a million years replace Walsh's sound but Felder's you reasonably can. The biggest hole left for me is the fact that they lost his capabilities on things like mandolin and steel pedal. I feel for the iconic loss of him and Walsh, the Hotel Cali outro and all that but if you were to give a selection of the 'they're just a cover band' outraged brigade two audio tapes (one Smith playing Hotel Cali and one Felder playing Hotel Cali) I would be amazed if anyone could tell them apart and give a reason why. Some obviously would, but not many.
Steuart Smith is a good guitarist and can play the notes, but he doesn’t sound like Don Felder. It’s not a matter of playing the notes, it’s how you play the notes. Don’s playing is subtle and nuanced and his sound is distinctive. I think the Eagles sounded better with him.

SilverMoon
03-11-2015, 10:43 AM
I wonder if there are any Felder fans that don't like The Eagles. I've never heard anybody say his solo stuff is better then his Eagles stuff. They must love the Eagles and hate them too. :eyebrow:


Who was the best addition to the Eagles line up?

1: Joe Walsh
2: Timothy B Schmit
Last: Don Felder

Who was the greatest loss to the Eagles?

1: Randy Meisner
2: Bernie Leadon
last: Don Felder

Who is/was the most insignificant member of the Eagles?

1: Don Felder


The Eagles don't sound like a copy band. They sound like a bunch of old men performing tracks they first performed when they were young men.

But they're still fillin' 'and still thrillin' :ziplip:
To say that Don Felder was the most insignificant member of the Eagles is wrong and unfair. He was instrumental in changing the Eagles’ sound from country-rock to mainstream rock, and he was the one who came up with the music for Hotel California, without which I doubt the Eagles would be so big and iconic. They have many good songs, but they still fill big venues mostly because of Hotel California. A lot of people go to their shows just to hear that song, and if the Eagles stopped playing it, those people wouldn’t go to see them.

Funk 50
03-11-2015, 07:16 PM
To say that Don Felder was the most insignificant member of the Eagles is wrong and unfair. He was instrumental in changing the Eagles’ sound from country-rock to mainstream rock, and he was the one who came up with the music for Hotel California, without which I doubt the Eagles would be so big and iconic. They have many good songs, but they still fill big venues mostly because of Hotel California. A lot of people go to their shows just to hear that song, and if the Eagles stopped playing it, those people wouldn’t go to see them.

How can you know why thousands of people, all over the world, pay huge sums to see the Eagles perform live?

A few years ago the Eagles started playing shorter set lists. They found it more difficult to sell tickets, so they went back to playing 3 hour shows. The sell outs returned. It wasn't about Hotel California, they always performed that, I think it was more to do with, perceived value for money.

The major reason why, I believe, the Eagles are still playing to sell out audiences, is that they got rid of Felder. If he had somehow managed to get himself reinstated in the band, there wouldn't be any Eagles concerts for people to attend.

Freypower
03-11-2015, 11:10 PM
To say that Don Felder was the most insignificant member of the Eagles is wrong and unfair. He was instrumental in changing the Eagles’ sound from country-rock to mainstream rock, and he was the one who came up with the music for Hotel California, without which I doubt the Eagles would be so big and iconic. They have many good songs, but they still fill big venues mostly because of Hotel California. A lot of people go to their shows just to hear that song, and if the Eagles stopped playing it, those people wouldn’t go to see them.

Total generalisation. The band cannot be reduced to one song, no matter how famous it is.

There is no evidence AT ALL that some only go to see them to hear HC. I am sorry but if you are going to make such a claim you have to provide specific examples.

I can only speak for myself, but I find the thought that someone would pay a lot of money to see a band for the sake of ONE SONG grotesque. I have an example. I love the song Africa by Toto. It was the only song by them I liked. Would I have gone to see them just to hear them play that? No.

In any case, they are now seeing it performed by Steuart Smith. If what you claim is true, that's a tribute to Steuart's skills, not to somebody who hasn't been a member of the Eagles since 2001.

UndertheWire
03-12-2015, 07:02 AM
I put forward an untested theory that the people who would only see the Eagles for Hotel California are the same people who say they won't see the band without Don Felder. Don's "An Evening at the Hotel California" show is designed for them.

Brooke
03-12-2015, 10:11 AM
How can you know why thousands of people, all over the world, pay huge sums to see the Eagles perform live?

A few years ago the Eagles started playing shorter set lists. They found it more difficult to sell tickets, so they went back to playing 3 hour shows. The sell outs returned. It wasn't about Hotel California, they always performed that, I think it was more to do with, perceived value for money.

The major reason why, I believe, the Eagles are still playing to sell out audiences, is that they got rid of Felder. If he had somehow managed to get himself reinstated in the band, there wouldn't be any Eagles concerts for people to attend.

Completely disagree! Why do you think it was more difficult to sell tickets? From reviews here nearly all those shows had huge crowds no matter the length of the show. And they still do.

And if Felder were reinstated there would be no concerts? Huh? Really? That doesn't even make sense to me. Sorry!

UndertheWire
03-13-2015, 04:41 PM
Possibly a new interview http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2015/03/13/time_off/entertainment_news/doc5501dbe192abe996838692.txt but it's the kind that sets my teeth on edge.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-13-2015, 04:54 PM
How can you know why thousands of people, all over the world, pay huge sums to see the Eagles perform live?

A few years ago the Eagles started playing shorter set lists. They found it more difficult to sell tickets, so they went back to playing 3 hour shows. The sell outs returned. It wasn't about Hotel California, they always performed that, I think it was more to do with, perceived value for money.

The major reason why, I believe, the Eagles are still playing to sell out audiences, is that they got rid of Felder. If he had somehow managed to get himself reinstated in the band, there wouldn't be any Eagles concerts for people to attend.

What concerts a few years ago weren't sold out? The ones I went to, not only were they sold out, but tickets went quickly. The Atlanta/Alpharetta show went so fast they had to do a second one. I'm not sure where you got this information, but I'd like to have it.

Freypower
03-13-2015, 05:36 PM
Possibly a new interview http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2015/03/13/time_off/entertainment_news/doc5501dbe192abe996838692.txt but it's the kind that sets my teeth on edge.

And next year marks the 40th anniversary of the release of the Hotel California album. ”That to me will be the big one,” he says. “Whether I choose to do anything or not, we’ll see.”

Yeah, because it's HIS album. Nobody else had anything to do with it.

The '27 years' bit is wrong because it wasn't 27 consecutive years. I supppose if he's going to insist on that we just have to put up with it.

Another name on the list of musicians he claims to have worked with there: Paul Simon. When?

As for people at Eagles shows yelling out 'heavy metal' to me that sounds like he just wanted to throw in a reference to one of his songs which the Eagles never used. I would have thought nobody expected that type of music from the Eagles.

chaim
03-13-2015, 07:34 PM
There's no gentle way to say this...It seems to me that Don Felder eats, breaths and ****s Hotel California. When did this start to happen? Was it like this before he was fired? If it was, I never noticed. It's like McCartney going around the world, spreading the good word that "I wrote 'Yesterday'". No, it's not the same....He wrote all of it.

Also, what Felder doesn't seem to realize is that it's not only his amazing and wonderful chords and arrangement that people talk about. A whole lot of people along the years have wondered what the song (the lyric) is about. And that's not Felder. That's Frey and Henley (in that order, because the initial spark for the storyline came from Glenn). I don't want to take anything away from Felder - it's a nice arrangement, although the chord progression is not unique - but if the lyric went "Baby, you don't know how much I care", would the song necessarily be the classic it is today?? And would Felder be running around shouting he wrote it?

Anyway, NKIT has always been my favorite song on the album. Probably always will be. And it will be the 40th anniversary for this song too.

Freypower
03-13-2015, 08:01 PM
There's no gentle way to say this...It seems to me that Don Felder eats, breaths and ****s Hotel California. When did this start to happen? Was it like this before he was fired? If it was, I never noticed. It's like McCartney going around the world, spreading the good word that "I wrote 'Yesterday'". No, it's not the same....He wrote all of it.

Also, what Felder doesn't seem to realize is that it's not only his amazing and wonderful chords and arrangement that people talk about. A whole lot of people along the years have wondered what the song (the lyric) is about. And that's not Felder. That's Frey and Henley (in that order, because the initial spark for the storyline came from Glenn). I don't want to take anything away from Felder - it's a nice arrangement, although the chord progression is not unique - but if the lyric went "Baby, you don't know how much I care", would the song necessarily be the classic it is today?? And would Felder be running around shouting he wrote it?

Anyway, NKIT has always been my favorite song on the album. Probably always will be. And it will be the 40th anniversary for this song too.

I completely agree, especially about NKIT.

Felder seems to have reduced the entire album to one song.

shunlvswx
03-15-2015, 07:27 PM
Don is not mention in this article, but he's going to be granddad again. Leah is pregnant.

http://m.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/brandon-leah-jenner-pregnant-expecting-first-child-picture-2015153

VAisForEagleLovers
03-15-2015, 08:30 PM
I saw that, Shun, and found it shocking that Don wasn't mentioned. It's trending on Facebook, so I guess that means that the world is just in love with all things Kardashian and Jenner.

shunlvswx
03-15-2015, 09:07 PM
I'm not surprise VA. With Leah married into the Jenner/Kardashian clan, they don't care that she has a famous father.

I read other articles on Facebook and Don is never mention not once. Kinda rude IMO since she has a famous father, but the Kardashian are more important than a guy who was in the Eagles and probably half of their audience don't know who Don Felder is.

Funk 50
03-16-2015, 04:32 PM
And next year marks the 40th anniversary of the release of the Hotel California album.

"That to me will be the big one,” he says. “Whether I choose to do anything or not, we’ll see.”

http://www.centraljersey.com/article...e996838692.txt

What could Felder do to mark the 40th anniversary of Hotel California?

He could release a solo version of the album and follow it with a tour, promising to play the album in it's entirety.
He could get guest stars to play the hard bits. A dvd of the live show would cap it all off.

Steve Hackett's done similar thing with the old Genesis albums, although they tended to share the writing credits equally between them.

I can't, presently think of anything else.

Felder said he started writing the title track of his latest CD, Road To Forever, in the mid seventies. It could be a Hotel California leftover.

Thanks for the link, UndertheWire.

Funk 50
03-18-2015, 06:53 AM
Don's due to be interviewed on the Mike & Kacey morning show on 100.7 WHUD;

http://www.whud.com/morning_show/#more

VAisForEagleLovers
03-19-2015, 07:36 AM
Video interview with Don...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oYQg5xBB08

VAisForEagleLovers
03-19-2015, 05:51 PM
A nice interview with Don ahead of his Wilbur theater show.

http://wzlx.cbslocal.com/2015/03/19/former-eagles-guitarist-don-felder-talked-with-km/

UndertheWire
03-19-2015, 06:27 PM
A nice interview with Don ahead of his Wilbur theater show.

http://wzlx.cbslocal.com/2015/03/19/former-eagles-guitarist-don-felder-talked-with-km/
He handled the questions well.

VAisForEagleLovers
03-19-2015, 06:42 PM
Yes, he was definitely baited. Idiot interviewer, what did he really think Don was gonna say?

UndertheWire
04-27-2015, 06:39 AM
A new interview. Nothing controversial. Talks about his plans, his weight and his exercise regime.

http://music.blog.ajc.com/2015/04/27/don-felder-talks-doobie-brothers-staying-fit-and-playing-guitar/

VAisForEagleLovers
04-27-2015, 07:11 AM
Thanks, UTW.

chaim
04-27-2015, 07:29 AM
For someone who doesn't think about money he certainly still says the word "money" surprisingly often.:hilarious:

UndertheWire
04-28-2015, 08:51 AM
There's an interview with The Washington Times. Although the title refers to the tour with the Doobie Brothers, it looks like it could be recycled from last year. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/don-felder-the-road-goes-on/

MaryCalifornia
04-28-2015, 11:39 AM
Good article from yesterday, UTW, thanks, haven't gotten to the Washington times yet. Felder really does look fantastic, like a rock star. He must work hard to stay as trim as he is.

In his next book, I'm guessing he will take the opportunity to "soften" his tone in Heaven and Hell and come off as more circumspect and mature as regards Don and Glenn (and maybe Joe and Tim, too). Newfound perspective and all that.

Wait, the Eagles have never played South America? How? Why?? Such easy money in a short time period and so many fans, so much closer that Aus and NZ....??? Is this true - never?

Freypower
04-28-2015, 04:56 PM
Good article from yesterday, UTW, thanks, haven't gotten to the Washington times yet. Felder really does look fantastic, like a rock star. He must work hard to stay as trim as he is.

In his next book, I'm guessing he will take the opportunity to "soften" his tone in Heaven and Hell and come off as more circumspect and mature as regards Don and Glenn (and maybe Joe and Tim, too). Newfound perspective and all that.

Wait, the Eagles have never played South America? How? Why?? Such easy money in a short time period and so many fans, so much closer that Aus and NZ....??? Is this true - never?

No, they have never played there. I'm sure they have done their research.

MaryCalifornia
04-28-2015, 10:10 PM
I don't know about research, they probably just don't want to go. From a quick Google search, it appears that the Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, and Dire Straits never played South America [quick search, I could be wrong.] But, it seems like most other major touring acts past and present have gone there - the Stones, Springsteen, U2, Queen, Madonna, Bon Jovi, JayZ and Justin Timberlake, Katy Perry, One Direction, etc... Ultimate Classic Rock says that Roger Waters played to 750,000 fans in 15 dates in 2012 - 50K fans average per night! I think the Eagles would do great there!

Sorry to go off topic in the Felder thread.

Jonny Come Lately
04-29-2015, 03:52 AM
I suppose it isn't that surprising that The Beatles never played South America, they broke up over 40 years and I think the world wasn't as globalised as it is now, meaning fewer people in South America would have heard of them and it would have been harder for them to tour the continent. As for Dire Straits, played their last show in 1992 (not as long ago as The Beatles, but still before I was born) and as much as I love them I wouldn't really consider them a long term major touring band, certainly not on the level of say The Rolling Stones or U2 - based on comments I've read elsewhere they fell off the radar for a lot of people after the end of the Brothers In Arms era, I have come across people who really liked Brothers In Arms but didn't buy On Every Street. Also, English is not the first language in South America and compared to most of the other bands listed I would suggest their songs would not be that easy for Spanish/Portuguese speakers to understand - Mark Knopfler often uses colloquialisms in his lyrics and most of their songs tend to be like short stories - they don't have many 'singalongs'.

Not sure why Fleetwood Mac haven't toured South America though. Can't think of any obvious reason why not. When it comes to the Eagles I guess they just don't want to play there. Maybe they and Fleetwood Mac don't have that many fans in South America compared to other bands?

Funk 50
04-29-2015, 06:19 AM
I guess until recently, South America didn't have enough adequate venues to play. Here in the UK there are now loads of arenas to play. Before 2K there were relatively few.



In his next book, I'm guessing he will take the opportunity to "soften" his tone in Heaven and Hell and come off as more circumspect and mature as regards Don and Glenn (and maybe Joe and Tim, too). Newfound perspective and all that.


To atone for Heaven And Hell, Don needs to do a lot more than "soften his tone". A humble grovelling apology would go down very well imho.

Topkat
05-04-2015, 10:38 AM
A new interview. Nothing controversial. Talks about his plans, his weight and his exercise regime.

http://music.blog.ajc.com/2015/04/27/don-felder-talks-doobie-brothers-staying-fit-and-playing-guitar/

Loved this article on Felder. Love how he talks about his life NOW, Nothing really about the Eagles, & as for money, he talked about some gigs the money going to a charity! Which is highly commendable.
I don't believe Felder is money hungry, & does the tours for the love of the music & he actually likes touring.
He looks fantastic & works at it. For his age , 67, he does a lot to stay in shape & keep his weight down. Me, ugh, I struggle to get in a workout & I'm younger.
Seems like he's enjoying his life right now, Happy for him!

VAisForEagleLovers
05-28-2015, 09:33 AM
LOS ANGELES, May 27, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Actor and humanitarian Matthew Perry will receive the "2015 Phoenix Rising Award" and former Los Angeles Mayor and civic leader, the Honorable Antonio Villaraigosa, the "2015 Public Service Award" at the 12th Annual Triumph for Teens Awards Gala, Monday, June 15th, 2015 at the Montage Beverly Hills. The event celebrates the victories of young people in overcoming their addiction and related ailments and recognizes contributions and accomplishments which have positively influenced the health and welfare of our communities, especially our at risk youth.

KCBS/KCAL weather anchor/reporter Kaj Goldberg hosts the dinner and award ceremony with Don Felder, former lead guitarist for The Eagles, performing. Michael Dwyer, DeeDee Gordon and Michael Kraus are the Gala Co-Chairs.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/phoenix-house-to-honor-matthew-perry-and-honorable-antonio-villaraigosa-at-12th-annual-triumph-for-teens-awards-gala-300089261.html

sodascouts
05-28-2015, 02:49 PM
Cool!

Topkat
06-02-2015, 07:17 AM
I guess until recently, South America didn't have enough adequate venues to play. Here in the UK there are now loads of arenas to play. Before 2K there were relatively few.




To atone for Heaven And Hell, Don needs to do a lot more than "soften his tone". A humble grovelling apology would go down very well imho.

Apology, really?, Seems to me that Frey & Henley owe him an apology for the way they spoke of him in HOE documentary, most especially Glenn, who sounded like a kid in a schoolyard fight. The HOE tour would have been a lot better if Felder was included & would have been a TRUE HISTORY of the band.

chaim
06-02-2015, 09:57 AM
Apology, really?, Seems to me that Frey & Henley owe him an apology for the way they spoke of him in HOE documentary, most especially Glenn, who sounded like a kid in a schoolyard fight. The HOE tour would have been a lot better if Felder was included & would have been a TRUE HISTORY of the band.

IMO Glenn didn't say worse things in the doc about Don F than Don said about Glenn in the book or - especially - later in interviews. The only difference is that Glenn was straight about it, whereas Don did it in a more subtle (and clever!) manner. Glenn actually used the word "a**h***", whereas Don's "honest, gentle and innocent" approach was designed to make people go "Glenn, that a**h***!" without him having to say it.
Just my opinion.

UndertheWire
06-02-2015, 12:21 PM
We can't fight their battles for them! I suspect that Glenn and Don H would require a big apology from Don F and in turn Don F would require a big apology from Glenn and Don H. I wouldn't envy the negotiator who got that job.

chaim
06-02-2015, 12:46 PM
We can't fight their battles for them!

What are fans supposed to do then?:hilarious:

VAisForEagleLovers
06-02-2015, 01:53 PM
I would fight their battles for them in a minute if I had all the facts!

I agree with what Chaim said, and since I'm very much a fan of the direct approach, I'm a bit baffled with all those who don't see Felder's approach for what it was and continues to be. On the other hand, it is possible to be too direct (or so I'm told).

WalshFan88
06-02-2015, 02:04 PM
Unrelated to Felder, I have to say while I'm a straight shooter and I'm about truth, I'm a very, very sensitive person who wears his heart on his sleeve and avoids criticism at all costs, and if someone came across that direct about me or to me, I'd be pretty pissed off about it and would let them know, in an equally direct way.

While I don't believe in passive-aggression, I also don't believe in being outwardly direct and cruel either. It's too harsh for me and I don't take it well and never will.

UndertheWire
06-02-2015, 03:52 PM
I don't think any of them are sensitive souls. After surviving nearly fifty years in a dirty business they must have thick skins.

Frey re-enacted a telephone call in which he called Felder an a*hole, whereas Felder tells of a conversation in which Henley calls Frey an a*hole. For me, that sums it up.

Generally, I find Felder's interviews a bit dull because they are all about him and I don't find him very interesting. He's moved on a bit from "How I wrote Hotel California" and how he was mistreated by "The Gods", but iPad yoga and liquid diets aren't exactly thrilling!

WalshFan88
06-02-2015, 06:19 PM
I don't think any of them are sensitive souls. After surviving nearly fifty years in a dirty business they must have thick skins.


I never stated or thought they were, I was referring to VA's comment about how being too direct is a problem for people like me - who isn't thick skinned or broad shouldered (outside of a physical nature).

L101
06-02-2015, 06:58 PM
I agree with what Chaim said, and since I'm very much a fan of the direct approach, I'm a bit baffled with all those who don't see Felder's approach for what it was and continues to be. On the other hand, it is possible to be too direct (or so I'm told).

I agree with VA and Chaim here - I find it funny regarding those who say that Henley/Frey need to apologize to Felder for how they treated him and yet ignore how he treated Henley/Frey for years - working with people who cause tension like that either deliberately or not is not easy - I have worked with someone like Felder and had to move jobs in the end.

I have great admiration for Henley/Frey, especially Frey for keeping it together for so long and not playing to Felder's game.
I also agree about using the direct approach - it might not be nice to hear, but at least everyone knows where they stand.
Both sides have their issues and with hindsight, I'm sure they would have done certain things differently. But a lot of time has passed, so its time to move on to new things.....

VAisForEagleLovers
06-02-2015, 07:27 PM
It's odd that we're having this discussion. I overheard my mother talking to some cousins about me, and she actually said that while I have a lot more tact than others in the family and will take a lot of "crap" from others, I also make it pretty clear when someone has crossed a line. She then said something along the lines of me making sure they get back across the line. Since this is the way I am, perhaps I'm imagining things that Glenn is more or less the same way. I can't handle all the drama associated with people who want me to tiptoe through tulips to get a point across. A simple statement from me will usually be just that, but walking around things until I get lost and frustrated brings out the b*tch in me. Even worse is when someone does something wrong and then acts like I'm the one who screwed up. When I am the one who screws up, if someone doesn't tell me directly, chances are really good I'll never even guess someone might be upset with me, or if I do, I'll have no idea why.

Enough about me, but it should give some insight to whoever reads this on why the way Felder treated Glenn and Don is like someone running their fingernails down a chalkboard to me. Neither side was perfect in it, of course, because no one is perfect.

The Golden Rule is a good guideline, treating others as you yourself want to be treated, but when it gets to the nitty gritty of personal relationships, people don't want me to treat them the way I want to be treated...they want me to treat them the way they want to be treated, and that applies to everyone. Since we're all vastly different, is it any wonder it's so difficult sometimes to all get along?

Funk 50
06-03-2015, 06:28 AM
Apology, really?, Seems to me that Frey & Henley owe him an apology for the way they spoke of him in HOE documentary, most especially Glenn, who sounded like a kid in a schoolyard fight. The HOE tour would have been a lot better if Felder was included & would have been a TRUE HISTORY of the band.

The major exclusion during the HOTE tour was/is Randy. You can't have the TRUE HISTORY without him.

I've always had the impression that Don(F) is quite willing to build bridges with his former band mates, whereas Glenn and Don will need some serious persuasion, so it's up to Felder to be humble enough to make the first move ie. publicly apologise.


Here's part of a Classic Rock, pre LROOE (and pre Felder's book) interview by Paul Elliott that's been unpublished until 12 months ago:


There has, however, been a change in the Eagles’ line-up recently. Guitarist Don Felder is out. Can you explain why?

Don Henley: Not really. I’ll say this: it’s something that’s been coming for quite a long time. There has been unrest for many years now, and it finally got to the point where it was intolerable. And the new Eagles – I think the band will be more creative. I think this will spark a whole new round of songwriting and bring back some joy and camaraderie that has been absent for a long time. So I think it’s a very good thing for the band, both personally and creatively – musically speaking. This was certainly not the first change we’ve made. And every time we make a change, things seem to get better. We fully expect that to be the case this time. And that’s about all I can say right now. I could go on a complete rant, but…

Timothy B. Schmit: The word ‘unrest’, that’s a good one.

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/features/2014-05-14/exclusive-previously-unpublished-eagles-interview

chaim
06-03-2015, 09:27 AM
I don't want to comment on which way I personally prefer. I only want to say that just because Don F hasn't used the word "a**h***" doesn't mean that he's been less harsh about Glenn.

Topkat
06-08-2015, 08:02 AM
IMO Glenn didn't say worse things in the doc about Don F than Don said about Glenn in the book or - especially - later in interviews. The only difference is that Glenn was straight about it, whereas Don did it in a more subtle (and clever!) manner. Glenn actually used the word "a**h***", whereas Don's "honest, gentle and innocent" approach was designed to make people go "Glenn, that a**h***!" without him having to say it.
Just my opinion.

Have to disagree with you. The documentary had much more exposure than Felder's book. And yes, a lot of people remarked, that I never knew Glenn was such a jerk. You can be straight on a matter without using A..H.... It only made him look foolish.

I don't think Don was playing innocent, that is just his way. He didn't want to look like an idiot in his description of what went down. He admitted in the book to a lot of mistakes he made during his life.
It's all under the bridge now, but the Eagles should take advice from their own song & "Get Over It"

UndertheWire
06-08-2015, 08:52 AM
I think too much is made of one word. It seems that terms like a*hole and worse have been common usage within the band for decades. It seems pretty mild to me. Perhaps people should try listening to some british bands!

sodascouts
06-08-2015, 02:08 PM
I'm not big fan of the word but I too was shocked and how so many people went ballistic over it. It's not as if the Eagles is the only band with discord, and I have heard band members from other bands say much uglier things about each other.

I think people who are offended were upset because they felt bad for Felder more than the word itself, though. Any insulting term would have been unacceptable. What other bands say about each other is irrelevant because those other bands weren't talking about Felder.

Some people don't like to hear about such conflict unadorned - they'd rather it be toned down for public consumption, and I understand that. It's hard to hear harsh things said. Glenn didn't tone down his words and people can judge for themselves whether or not they find that to be a good thing. Certainly Felder tones down things when he's talking about his own behavior - mistakes are always accompanied by justifications: he only cheated on his wife because beautiful women were throwing themselves at him and no man could reasonably be expected to resist that; his leaving his wife was her fault because she was too wrapped up in her business, etc.

To be fair, though, some don't seem to believe Felder is doing much toning down of his behavior or language unless he's being tactful; they do not perceive what he said as justifications but rather applaud him for admitting to doing anything in the first place. Yes, the facts that he had sex with groupies and left his wife were already common knowledge, but some believe it was still brave of him to acknowledge these facts. Yes, every reader expected to hear about the groupies and many bought the book for such salacious tales, but he could have lied about it and said he never cheated, and it's quite admirable that he admitted to it.

Some genuinely believe he always is completely honest, even when he contradicts himself or contradicts known facts. Some believe such contradictions are understandable mis-rememberings. Some genuinely believe he held nothing back and that he has done or said nothing worse than what he has revealed to us, at least with regard to the Eagles. Some genuinely believe he has no agenda but to communicate the real truth about the Eagles to the people. Some genuinely believe his left handed compliments are sincere attempts to be nice. Some genuinely do not recognize any subtle digs. They think other fans are imagining them.

I realize I am speaking in generalities and that there are Felder fans who do not buy into all of these concepts. However, this is the overall impression I get from the multitude of posts we've had about it from various people over the years since the documentary.

Note: I edited this post because I felt I was being too harsh; I have a bad habit of posting things in haste and then belatedly realizing that they might hurt people's feelings, which I don't want to do. I respect that there are a lot of good people who do not share my perspective on Felder's comments. If you saw an earlier version that offended you, I apologize.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-08-2015, 04:05 PM
I guess for me it comes down to the fact that none of them were perfect in it. When I bring up the fact that Felder's approach to band dynamics tended to be sneaky and underhanded, I'm not saying that Glenn's abrasive, abrupt approach is the way to go. Even though I myself prefer the more direct approach to relationship interactions, I've learned the hard way it's not always the best way. It just drives me a little crazy that Glenn did what he did and said what he said, and he gets so much grief for it, and those giving the grief seem to think Felder is an innocent party when it comes to the interactions between them all.

As I see it, Frey and Henley had a lot of tension between them, and it was getting worse. They had the same goals, the best thing for the Eagles, but their individual ideas of how to get there were different. Felder was the next most tenured member and he wanted more control, more say-so. I can totally respect that. How he went about trying to get it, I can't. To consistently side with Henley in an issue against Frey, then turn around and side with Frey in an issue against Henley, playing one off against the other is not something I can respect. He constantly needled at both of them and pushed buttons he'd learned would work. He didn't seem to care it wasn't the best thing for the Eagles. He made the huge mistake of assuming neither would figure it out. Instead of emerging the victor with one of them, Glenn put a stop to the entire thing by ending the Eagles.

Frey and Henley talk about this in interviews not too long after the Eagles split, and Joe mentions it in the documentary. With time and distance, both Henley and Frey had a pretty clear picture of what happened, and so when they reunited, while they respected Felder as a musician, they weren't going to let him anywhere near a decision making position, and they certainly had no wish to be best buds over a beer. He continued his quest for power in continuing to needle and push. He continued it for years and years. (I would even venture a guess that some of the tension between Frey and Henley was instigated by Felder, but it's a guess and not substantiated by anything other than a study of human interactions)

Regardless of whether or not Frey and Henley handled things well, and regardless of the attitude they may have given off in the documentary, I just can't see where people can look at Felder's actions and see them as innocent. I know he's admitted to doing things wrong, as Soda pointed out, and while that's admirable, he's never stood up and said, "You know, maybe I could have handled that better" when it comes to dynamics between he and Frey and Henley. I don't expect him to, actually, same as I don't expect either Frey or Henley to. However, I'd just like some acknowledgement from the Frey and Henley haters that maybe, just maybe, Felder provoked a lot of things. Maybe he's as culpable as they.

ETA: For what it's worth, a*hole is what I call my brother and SIL on a regular basis (my SIL has a ringtone that says an a*hole is calling for when I call them...we love each other). Now if Glenn had used his favorite Detroit word (the one where half the word is 'mother'), then that would have been bad...

MaryCalifornia
06-08-2015, 04:35 PM
I've always thought that Glenn's comments there reflect a current bravado that he probably didn't enjoy in 1980 and maybe not even in 2001. We don't have audio of him actually saying those words to Felder's lawyers - he may have, or, he may have been paraphrasing for the doc.

My takeaway is that Felder's behavior/demands stressed out Glenn immensely in the '70s and from 1994-2001, and NOW he is able to be FREE of him. He is past it, he doesn't have to play politics or band business or keep his mouth shut. He is free to speak of Felder in any manner he wants, and his words reflects how he feels now. It was very liberating.

That was honestly one of my favorite scenes in the doc. And no, as an adult, watching a rock documentary, the a-word does not remotely offend, in any context.

Freypower
06-08-2015, 06:01 PM
I've always thought that Glenn's comments there reflect a current bravado that he probably didn't enjoy in 1980 and maybe not even in 2001. We don't have audio of him actually saying those words to Felder's lawyers - he may have, or, he may have been paraphrasing for the doc.

My takeaway is that Felder's behavior/demands stressed out Glenn immensely in the '70s and from 1994-2001, and NOW he is able to be FREE of him. He is past it, he doesn't have to play politics or band business or keep his mouth shut. He is free to speak of Felder in any manner he wants, and his words reflects how he feels now. It was very liberating.

That was honestly one of my favorite scenes in the doc. And no, as an adult, watching a rock documentary, the a-word does not remotely offend, in any context.

Hear, hear. :thumbsup:

We are talking about a grown man who doesn't mince his words.Some of us were plesaed that he didn't hold back or try & pretend that the situation ddin't make him angry. As I have said, give me his brutal honesty over Felder's backhanded jibes any day. Perhaps at the time as VA said he could have been less abrasive & shown more patience. What he was faced with was being generous enough to pluck someone out of obscurity after 14 years of almost complete silence, and then watching that person apparently believe that he was the most important band member & that he could dictate terms. The fact is Felder was in no position to bargain & had to be given an ultimatum.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-08-2015, 10:31 PM
Perhaps at the time as VA said he could have been less abrasive & shown more patience.

Actually I said 'abrasive and abrupt approach', which is not really how I feel about it, but apparently others do. I consider it 'direct', or even better, cutting out the BS and laying it on the line. :wink: I think he showed too much patience, if he'd have done it sooner, he might not have been as 'abrasive and abrupt'.

chaim
06-09-2015, 04:01 AM
Although I personally tend to "see" subtle digs everywhere in Don's book and in interviews from that era, I respect opposite views on this forum - that Don is the better guy and Glenn was too harsh in the documentary etc. People on this forum have probably spent a bit of time thinking about it before screaming something like "Glenn sucks!". It is more the ignorance among "the masses" that irritates me. Because among rock fans ignorance is often bliss when it comes to working relationships between band members. In every band there has to be one or two a**h***s (usually the ones who do most of the work and have more responsilities than the rest) and one or two good guys (usually the ones who would like to party instead of working). Often the "good guys" also complain in public, and people who don't like to give too much time or consideration for facts or different points of view automatically side with them.

Who would be the biggest a**s*** in the Eagles, then? Well, who does more work than the rest? By "more" I don't necessarily mean more working hours, but "more" in terms of different stuff it takes to run the business.

But, like I said, people on this forum actually know something about the band, so their views aren't based on complete ignorance. It's just a different way of seeing things.

UndertheWire
06-09-2015, 04:59 AM
We also all bring our own experience to it and this means we attribute qualities to band members that they may or may not possess. How often do we see comments like "I knew a guy just like him..."? So if we've been crushed by an alpha type, or had to deal with an employee or complains a lot, that's going to play a part in our understanding.

What I keep thinking about is that some of the conflict goes back to childhood and the way this influenced the way Felder and Frey approach life. Felder's concern about money and his comparative poverty as a child, his wish for approval and being the disappointing younger son, the bottling up grievances and keeping quiet to avoid being belted. And in there, a morality and a belief that things should be fair. In contrast, the little we know of Glenn's background is that it was happy with early success, a lot of encouragement and a loving relationship with his mother.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-09-2015, 06:59 AM
Very true, UTW, and that's the kind of stuff I love to think about. If doing that for a living paid any sort of money, that's what I'd do. I try to take into account people's backgrounds when I know them, and not expect the same things from everyone. That being said, we all have our crosses to bear, and just because someone doesn't see what it might be doesn't mean we don't have it.

Chaim, I do have to mention that for the most part, my comments above for for 'the masses', and not people on this board, since you are right, those who are here have given it serious thought. The fact that we've all been given the same set of facts and details and still think different things is what makes life interesting.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-09-2015, 07:02 AM
Back to Felder being the Press.... here's an article I found that is a classic example of poor journalism. Apparently he's doing a concert around Labor Day, but it doesn't say where, or when, or what venue. So I'm putting it here until I find out more details and can open an anticipation thread. If anyone else has the details, feel free to start the thread as it will be a while before I can get to it, I think.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/local_story/Ex-Eagles-guitarist-set-as-hea_1433780974

UndertheWire
06-09-2015, 07:26 AM
More details here: http://www.mojo1029.com/category/contests/

VAisForEagleLovers
06-16-2015, 08:20 PM
It's a mobile address, so hopefully everyone can see it. Don's take on his grandchild's other grandfather/grandmother.

http://m.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/leah-jenners-dad-don-felder-talks-caitlyn-jenner-happy-to-support-2015166

The non-mobile link:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/leah-jenners-dad-don-felder-talks-caitlyn-jenner-happy-to-support-2015166

Ive always been a dreamer
06-16-2015, 10:24 PM
Nice to hear that Don, as part of the extended Jenner/Kardashian family is being so supportive. And Leah's baby will be Don's ninth grandchild - I knew he had several grandchildren, but had no idea that it was that many.

VAisForEagleLovers
06-25-2015, 05:24 PM
An interview with Don:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-don-felder-interview-eagles-20150625-story.html

UndertheWire
07-23-2015, 03:29 PM
Here's a new interview that's slightly different in that Don talks about balancing his life and his daughter Leah. It seems like the writer is well enough informed to see past the bullshit.

http://www.njarts.net/pop-rock/don-felder-promises-rocking-show-at-nj-festival-of-ballooning/

chaim
07-24-2015, 09:28 AM
A nice interview. I love how he never forgets to throw in HC - even when he's talking about totally different material:

"It’s generally a rock ‘n’ roll show. Most of the stronger stuff that I played on when I was in the Eagles was rock ‘n’ roll, like ‘Already Gone,’ ‘Life in the Fast Lane,’ ‘Heartache Tonight.’ Those kind of rock songs, along with ‘Hotel California.’"
:hilarious:

UndertheWire
08-03-2015, 06:09 AM
Another phone interview. I don't think Felder ever toured in support of Airborne, so that's probably the writer misunderstanding Don.

http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/entertainment/2015/08/03/freed-eagles-felder-leads-flock/31020517/

NightMistBlue
08-25-2015, 12:21 PM
A recent interview with Don, focusing on the now-famous pals of his youth: http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/news_and_views/curtain_call/don-felder-soars-like-an-eagle-at-caesars/article_e0b81266-3a09-11e5-8ac5-a317630de9cd.html

AlreadyGone95
08-25-2015, 01:18 PM
A recent interview with Don, focusing on the now-famous pals of his youth: http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/news_and_views/curtain_call/don-felder-soars-like-an-eagle-at-caesars/article_e0b81266-3a09-11e5-8ac5-a317630de9cd.html

I love reading about Don's youth because I love those 4 guys he talks about. :) :guitar:

UndertheWire
10-06-2015, 04:22 AM
Don has been in Scotland playing golf and gave an interview. Apart from the golf stories, he says he's been working on a CD for release next year or early 2017.
http://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/golf/former-eagle-just-loves-to-take-it-easy-in-fife-1-3903479

NOLA
10-06-2015, 09:31 AM
UTW, glad to hear he's still in the business of releasing new material. I've been listening to his most recent work, Road to Forever, so the prospect of a new album is good news!

Funk 50
10-06-2015, 12:07 PM
Don has been in Scotland playing golf and gave an interview. Apart from the golf stories, he says he's been working on a CD for release next year or early 2017.
http://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/golf/former-eagle-just-loves-to-take-it-easy-in-fife-1-3903479

Thanks for the link UTW. He still got the Hotel California mention in. :smile:

I had to chuckle when I saw Kevin Pietersen's name on the list of amateur competitors.

They share so much in common. ie. member of a great team, annoys team mates, gets sacked, subsequent book, longs for another chance :grin:

Good news about a new album. If Don's saying late 2016, early 2017. I'll expect it, late 2017, early 2018. :thumbsup:

Funk 50
11-08-2015, 09:10 AM
This is video of Don plugging this weekends live shows with Steve Miller on Q104.3 FM. Includes a very long description of writing Hotel California.

A listener asks Don what meal he had with Irving, while Henley sang the lead vocal for Victim Of Love (Why did he have to be absent?)."A bitter pill" is a great answer from Don, before he's rescued by host Jim Kerr.

He say's he set is 60% Eagles songs.

http://www.q1043.com/onair/jim-kerr-rock-roll-morning-show-11641/don-felder-decribes-writing-hotel-california-14098584/#ixzz3qdqXQYL5

Freypower
11-08-2015, 06:31 PM
This is video of Don plugging this weekends live shows with Steve Miller on Q104.3 FM. Includes a very long description of writing Hotel California.

A listener asks Don what meal he had with Irving, while Henley sang the lead vocal for Victim Of Love (Why did he have to be absent?)."A bitter pill" is a great answer from Don, before he's rescued by host Jim Kerr.

He say's he set is 60% Eagles songs.

http://www.q1043.com/onair/jim-kerr-rock-roll-morning-show-11641/don-felder-decribes-writing-hotel-california-14098584/#ixzz3qdqXQYL5

I thought Irving took him for a meal to tell him he wasn't singing VOL, not that they went for a meal while Henley was singing the song.

Whichever; continuing to harp on about these events forty years after they happened is starting make Felder look very sad.

Also from what I've seen of his setlist it is more like 80 or even 90% Eagles, isn't it?

sodascouts
11-09-2015, 12:20 AM
Also from what I've seen of his setlist it is more like 80 or even 90% Eagles, isn't it?

No - he throws in some covers of songs by Stevie Ray Vaughn, Stevie Wonder, etc. to fill it out in addition to about four solo songs.

Ive always been a dreamer
11-09-2015, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the link, F50.


Whichever; continuing to harp on about these events forty years after they happened is starting make Felder look very sad.

Actually, I began thinking this about 10 years ago. :brickwall:

chaim
11-09-2015, 03:21 AM
I can't believe how many people there are who don't know the difference between writing and co-writing. :brickwall: And I'm not talking about Don.

Also, gotta love the introduction. So basically those who don't worship Hotel California are "mean" people.
I also love Don's "well, I can, but...my memory is hazy" hesitation when he's asked to talk about the writing of HC. Like he hadn't told the story a thousand times before.:hilarious: And the story has changed from what it once was. Now it was him who decided that Don H's singing wasn't working in E minor. And Glenn wasn't involved at all in the writing. Don H came up with the concept and the lyrics. It's true, his memory is very hazy.
The "bitter pill" was great. :hilarious:Quick thinking!

UndertheWire
11-09-2015, 09:25 AM
Also from what I've seen of his setlist it is more like 80 or even 90% Eagles, isn't it?
For the last 3 setlists on setlist.fm, it was 76%, 69% and 85%.

Topkat
11-09-2015, 02:19 PM
I saw Felder on Sat night at the Beacon & he was fabulous. I am saying that his singing has greatly improved since I even saw him last during the summer. He also has some fabulous singers in his band. I'm not sure but some of them may be new people because the harmonies sounded great.
They did songs I didn't expect, like 7 Bridges Road & Tequila Sunrise.

I think in interviews he is repeatedly asked the questions, so he is obligated to answer them. He clearly has a fan base & can hold his own. Many people at the show came to see Felder, not the Steve Miller Band.
:rockon:

Freypower
11-09-2015, 04:38 PM
I can't believe how many people there are who don't know the difference between writing and co-writing. :brickwall: And I'm not talking about Don.

Also, gotta love the introduction. So basically those who don't worship Hotel California are "mean" people.
I also love Don's "well, I can, but...my memory is hazy" hesitation when he's asked to talk about the writing of HC. Like he hadn't told the story a thousand times before.:hilarious: And the story has changed from what it once was. Now it was him who decided that Don H's singing wasn't working in E minor. And Glenn wasn't involved at all in the writing. Don H came up with the concept and the lyrics. It's true, his memory is very hazy.
The "bitter pill" was great. :hilarious:Quick thinking!

Why did Glenn get a songwriting credit, then? He is basically calling Glenn a liar, but given some of the other stuff he says about Glenn I guess nobody should be surprised.

If Felder is so great & has such a strong fan base, then he shouldn't be a support act. Why is he never asked hard questions like if you are such a great musician why did you release one album before the Eagles reformed & one after you were fired? Why is he never asked if he possibly, just possibly, could accept some responsiblilty for what happened instead of blaming everyone else?

He may be obligated to answer questions. It seems to me that he screens them beforehand to ensure he's not asked anything challenging.

As for the setlist percentage that UTW provided; that speaks for itself. I wasn't far off with 80%.

Funk 50
11-09-2015, 06:14 PM
I was checking out the list of Timothy's song writing credits a week or so ago, at ascap.com and was stunned to see One Of These Nights Intro was credited to him.
The writers are listed as Felder/Frey/Henley/Schmit/Walsh. Schmit and Walsh weren't even in the band when that was recorded.

Song writing credits obviously aren't as black and white as they ought to be.

If Felder had a strong fan base, he wouldn't be performing 60 to 85% Eagles songs, during his concerts nor would he be, forever prattling on about Hotel California.

I'm glad you enjoyed Felder's show on Saturday night Topkat. I'm sure he put on a great show but his act obviously can't sell enough tickets to headline a solo tour. I wish he'd take a punt with a proper Felder show rather than just continually churning out his ex Eagle act. Surely he's rich enough to try it out.

I'm interested to see if Felder mentions the unfortunate incident at the recent Henley concert. Will he show Henley some support for ejecting a Felder fan who heckled Steuart Smith. Maybe even wishing Glenn a happy birthday and get well soon message, too while he's at it.
I'm drifting into the realms of fantasy aren't I :grin:

Freypower
11-09-2015, 06:27 PM
I was checking out the list of Timothy's song writing credits a week or so ago, at ascap.com and was stunned to see One Of These Nights Intro was credited to him.
The writers are listed as Felder/Frey/Henley/Schmit/Walsh. Schmit and Walsh weren't even in the band when that was recorded.

Song writing credits obviously aren't as black and white as they ought to be.



Well, that is obviously a major error on ASCAP's part. The Eagles have always listed the writing credit for HC as Felder/Henley/Frey. I have heard Glenn talking about how he came up with the guy on the dark desert highway concept. I have no reason to believe he is lying. I do have reason to believe that Felder minimises Frey's contributions to the Eagles every second chance he gets.

UndertheWire
11-09-2015, 06:40 PM
It doesn't really belong here, but this was Don Henley speaking about Glenn:

He wrote some of the best parts of Hotel California and Desperado too. I get credit for a lot of that, but the fact is that he wrote some of the pivotal lines that I wouldn’t have thought of in a million years.source (http://classicrock.teamrock.com/features/2014-05-14/exclusive-previously-unpublished-eagles-interview)

OutlawManNJ
11-09-2015, 06:43 PM
Well Sunday in NJ Felder played a solo show with no opening band, it was just his band. The very nice theatre in Morristown holds 1300 and it was pretty close to sold out. So he probably can tour around the country solo and easily fill up places for 500-1000 people. Of course most people go to hear eagles songs but i was also curious to see his guitar work especially.