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sodascouts
01-18-2014, 02:53 PM
You know how in my earlier review I talked about the cool new encore? Well, they dropped it! I was very disappointed because without that, basically, this is just another show in the History of the Eagles tour. It was good, but not particularly special.

Some overzealous security ensured I would not be putting this show among my top Eagles concert experiences. Quite the opposite. However, the music was still terrific and it would take a lot more than that to negate the feeling I get whenever I see these guys performing some of the greatest rock music of all time with those incredible voices and musicianship.

My cousins were really impressed and thought the show was fantastic. There were fewer glitches than Wednesday, although a few remained. Any Eagles fan in the greater LA area should go!

carol7lynn
01-18-2014, 03:02 PM
Nancy,

What time did they go on and what time was the show over? I'm going again tonight and need to make transportation plans.

Thanks!

As for security they were very on-point Wednesday night too. What did they do exactly last night? No pixs, no dancing in the aisles? What?

Carol-Lynn

VAisForEagleLovers
01-18-2014, 03:02 PM
I thought it was a great concert! The tinny sound I heard to my left on Wednesday wasn't there last night. Of course, I was over a section to the right this time.

I guess the 'fan' night was made more special by the fact last night's concert didn't include the extra encore.

I will write more later. At airport on a phone at the moment. Can't quite believe it's snowing back in KY. I'll have more than PEW this trip...I'll miss the weather too! Still, only six weeks or so until Raleigh and then Cincinnati!

deb828
01-18-2014, 04:59 PM
You know how in my earlier review I talked about the cool new encore? Well, they dropped it! I was very disappointed because without that, basically, this is just another show in the History of the Eagles tour. It was good, but not particularly special. Some overzealous security ensured I would not be putting this show among my top Eagles concert experiences. Quite the opposite. However, the music was still terrific and it would take a lot more than that to negate the feeling I get whenever I see these guys performing some of the greatest rock music of all time with those incredible voices and musicianship.

My cousins were really impressed and thought the show was fantastic. There were fewer glitches than Wednesday, although a few remained. Any Eagles fan in the greater LA should go!
Oh, that is really disappointing. I was so hoping they would keep it.

Glennsallnighter
01-18-2014, 06:21 PM
Sorry the security was so awkward Soda! What are they afraid of?

Pity they dropped that encore too!

Still they are still an incredible band to watch.

Lucky you VA! How many shows have you been to already?

VAisForEagleLovers
01-19-2014, 12:22 AM
GA, last night was #8 for me for this particular tour.

As for security, they were on top of things, a lot of things, and perhaps didn't 'get' the rules they were to enforce correct. That being said, some of this is conjecture in that I'm stringing facts into a theory. The Eagles have their own promotion company, and the promotion company handles contracting security people for an event. I'm sure they use local people, but they seem to be 'supervised' by the promotion company and not the venue. Having seen one particular security dude at several venues in several cities supports this in my head (either that or he has a lot of brothers). So I'm thinking the locals take their orders from the supervisor-types that are employed by and travel with the band. The security guy closest to me said that their direction comes from Glenn. It's possible something got lost in translation, but I do wonder. The rule put on the screens before the concert say no standing during ballads or when those behind you are seated. What Glenn said the previous night was to not stand during ballads. In Atlantic City in 2012, he motioned me to sit down on what I had perceived to be a faster song (I forget which one), so...


Last night, a good number of those in front of us (didn't notice who was behind us) were using walkers, crutches, and canes. The ones in wheelchairs were in the front row (I was in sixth). It was nice that even during the fast songs, those in front didn't stand since these people couldn't, and security never had to mention it to them, they just did it. It was nice to see.

Security wasn't as diligent about some other things. One man in front of us complained to security about the guy in front of him several times. I don't know what about, I think he was smoking weed. Security warned him several times then on the last complaint asked him to either open his hands or pull out his pockets or something. They then told him to stand and told him he had to leave. There were at least three security people who were on it. As he passed by the man behind him, he shoved him. That guy stood up and they went nose to nose, harsh words and pushing and shoving. The guy across the aisle from me tried to break it up and I started to help, but HH and I had broken up a fight the previous day and called the police (a whole different story) and so I figured that in an arena with 4000 security dudes and multiple policemen, I shouldn't have to worry my head about it. It was difficult to concentrate on Don singing The Long Run with that going on less than a foot from me!

Lastly, I'll say that the lines for concessions before the concert were significantly shorter than the previous concert. At least one issue was resolved!

Now, the concert! The guys were definitely a lot looser, and CL would have appreciated it, they had a lot more energy. Not sure how they'll do on that tonight since it's back-to-back. The vocals were better, and there were more smiles and interaction with each other. Joe had a technical issue, I think at the end of LBG, and the band had to play on without him until Mark figured it out. They handled it well and made it entertaining, so it worked. After the song, Don went up to Joe's mic-stand and gestured with his foot, "You have too much crap up here!" A good way of pointing out that Joe isn't your average guitar player. Anyway, Joe was on fire again at the end of HC. Wow. He was on fire all night, but he outdid himself on that one.

Glenn brought out 'Plaintiff' again and again it got laughs. I laughed trying to picture Soda's reaction to it.

I'm sounding like a broken record, but Doolin Dalton / Desperado Reprise was truly spectacular. The harmonies, the arrangement, the instruments are all top-notch on this song, and in my opinion, it's a song that showcases Don's voice over and above a lot of others he sings. BTW, both nights, Don did a great job on Desperado at the end of the show. Very passionate in both of them.

Glenn...I know some others in the other thread didn't agree, but one of the press reviews mentioned it exactly how I think of it. Glenn's purer voice juxtaposed with Don's more raspy voice gives the audience an incredible 1-2 punch, and Timothy's sweet vocals on his leads are icing on the cake. What's not to love?

Of course, NKIT just melted my bones once again. Just incredible.

WalshFan88
01-19-2014, 06:27 AM
TIE, RMW, and Desperado:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKjhNTEXkM

HC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdollN7sYqs

sodascouts
01-19-2014, 03:15 PM
GA, last night was #8 for me for this particular tour.

Just #6 for me.


As for security, they were on top of things, a lot of things, and perhaps didn't 'get' the rules they were to enforce correct. That being said, some of this is conjecture in that I'm stringing facts into a theory. The Eagles have their own promotion company, and the promotion company handles contracting security people for an event. I'm sure they use local people, but they seem to be 'supervised' by the promotion company and not the venue. Having seen one particular security dude at several venues in several cities supports this in my head (either that or he has a lot of brothers). So I'm thinking the locals take their orders from the supervisor-types that are employed by and travel with the band. The security guy closest to me said that their direction comes from Glenn. It's possible something got lost in translation, but I do wonder. The rule put on the screens before the concert say no standing during ballads or when those behind you are seated. What Glenn said the previous night was to not stand during ballads. In Atlantic City in 2012, he motioned me to sit down on what I had perceived to be a faster song (I forget which one), so...I think the problem comes when it's unclear; if the band wants everyone to sit for the entirety of the first half, it would be simple enough to say so. Instead, on Wednesday, Glenn specifically said the ballads, and Friday later the slow songs. The written instructions say you shouldn't stand if you block people. Theoretically, this could apply to the whole show, as there is never a time when 100% of the audience is standing. Thus, the security makes judgment calls.

When Lissa and I stood for Already Gone, which was the first time we'd stood other than to give ovations, about half a dozen people around us were standing. I debated if it was enough to make it acceptable to the Eagles for us to stand. I don't want to piss anyone off. Lissa was already standing; I joined her. Glenn looked directly at us. There was no hand motion, no sign of displeasure. Still, the security guard told us to sit. I did.

This is the part where I have a problem: when Lissa didn't sit down fast enough, he not only demanded she sit, he told her that if she should stand again at any point in the show, he would throw her out! What the heck?! Somehow I doubt that was what Glenn intended, as he actually encourages people to stand during Heartache Tonight.

If stressing about when I am allowed to stand is going to be a regular component of every Eagles show I am going to attend from here on out... If these black shirt security jerks travel with the band and will be at every show, as is apparently the case... Well, that sucks, frankly. I want to be enjoying the music, not frightened that I'll be thrown out if the number of people standing behind me doesn't fit into the specific parameters of percentile and locale that we in the audience are never privy to, and that vary from one Black Shirt to the next.

Meanwhile, there were so many people lighting up joints around me that I was feeling dizzy and sick, but the security ignored them. Last time I checked, it was illegal to smoke at all in such venues, nevermind doing drugs - but it's standing at the wrong time or texting that will get you thrown out. I mean, I don't text during shows, but they told me I couldn't even have my cellphone on during intermission!

"Fabulous" was not the f-word many people around me were using to describe their Forum experience after the numerous visits from such "diligent" security, ready to eject you for the pettiest of offenses.

That said, the Forum has good sound, cool decor, and a really neat bar area on the floor that is off to the side so people aren't disturbed by loud drink orders, yet has a glass wall so people can see while they drink. There was a good amount of leg room on the floor between rows, and the chairs were comfortable. It was nice. Was it the best in the whole world like Glenn said? Well, perhaps, but I wouldn't have guessed it if he hadn't said so. I suppose he would know, though, considering all the places he's played. Again, it was certainly very good. I recommend it.

I have more to say, but it's time to board my flight back. Later!

Thirsty&Hot
01-19-2014, 04:08 PM
geez Nancy...that sounds stressful and frustrating!

I know during my show (MSG nov 9), people weren't really standing so I didn't stand for most of the show cos I didn't want to block anyone. I think the first song I stood and danced for was Heartache Tonight (I didn't know Glenn encourages that one :grin:) and then for a couple of Joe's rockin' songs too.

but at no point did anyone (audience or security) ask me to sit. I was also on the first level up though.
was this rule for the whole Forum? or just down in front?

after paying that much for tickets and just wanting to (harmlessly) really enjoy yourself at the show, it's absolutely annoying to be told to sit still and have to worry about being kicked out(!) when people around you are actually breaking laws (smoking etc).

Thirsty&Hot
01-19-2014, 04:16 PM
I was looking at Instagram and saw Kris Jenner posted (http://instagram.com/p/jUivDsG-JH/) a collage of her and friends, some concert shots, and her ticket... she has a shout out to Cindy and Glenn

her ticket said "COMP 0.00"
and many people commented about how she (and other celebrities) of all people SHOULD be paying for her ticket because she can definitely afford it

others said...well she's good friends with Glenn's wife; of course she wouldn't pay for a ticket

I can understand both perspectives...and even though it does seem unfair, it's always that way..celebs get free clothes, accessories, etc because it's advertisement. I guess free concerts are just perks too.

Henley Honey
01-19-2014, 05:33 PM
Just #6 for me.



I think the problem comes when it's unclear; if the band wants everyone to sit for the entirety of the first half, it would be simple enough to say so. Instead, on Wednesday, Glenn specifically said the ballads, and Friday later the slow songs. The written instructions say you shouldn't stand if you block people. Theoretically, this could apply to the whole show, as there is never a time when100% of the audience is standing. Thus, the security makes judgment calls.




I agree. During the LROOE tour, the rule of thumb (from the band) was clear. You sat for the first 7 songs and then it was ok to get up and dance if the majority of your seat mates were up. This tour, it's kind of a crap shoot in that Already Gone is definitely not a ballad, but not a lot of people get up, despite the fact that Glenn says in the intro "It's time to rock a little harder." How do you hear that and NOT get up?!?! There's no winning, though, because you can't make everyone happy. Dreamer and I were in the 5th row dead center for this show and the people behind us were not happy that we were standing for Funk 49 -- definitely not a ballad. On a good note, I didn't listen to my inner demon voice and blast her for repeatedly poking me in the back rather than trying the polite "excuse me" approach.

It's hard to concentrate on enjoying the music and the performance when you are waiting to be reprimanded and scolded to sit down by either security or stodgy audience members -- but I manage to block out the BS and enjoy the show!

HenleyFan1971
01-19-2014, 05:49 PM
I have a great time at both shows but people smoking pot was the worse they were going after people with cameras more then illegal drugs in Ca we have a no smoking law in malls I think bars I honestly thought it would mean concert venues that that need to smoke outside at intermission I had a bad today my 17 year cat had a pain episode so once I get my head back I am going to write a email plus there were so many drunks they should have put a limit on drinks one guy was walking in the street supposedly got him foot slightly ran over and punched the person windshield the area is bad I would rather drive 30 miles to venue in orange county but over I had a great a safe time :)

Glennsallnighter
01-19-2014, 06:57 PM
Well put yourself in Glenn :heart:'s place. Youre in the biggest band in the world. You're performing. Your wife's good friend wants a ticket. You are hardly gonna give her a crappy seat AND charge her for the priviledge... I mean ARE you??

Desperada and I will be standing for the last gig in Dublin. We will be on the Early Entry tickets. Security will hardly be able to tell US to sit down..... will they...?

Henley Honey
01-19-2014, 07:04 PM
We met Henry Diltz, the photographer for the Desperado shoot who could not have been nicer. Soda's camera wasn't working so Henry's friend was gracious enough to use his camera to take a picture of Henry and Soda and email it to her. I knew Henry had a good sense of humor when I suggested that they say "peyote" instead of "cheese" for the picture. He gave me an ear to ear grin at the suggestion. A lovely man with a good sense of humor. I hope Soda posts the picture.

Glennsallnighter
01-19-2014, 07:10 PM
Oh wonderful! I hope she does post it. Funny, on Thursday evening on my photography course we were asked to think about a photographer whose work we particularly admired, and for me Henry Diltz came to mind immediately!!

TimothyBFan
01-19-2014, 07:52 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about all the problems with security. I hate to sound like a broken record BUT I find it very frustrating for everyone. No way do I want to spend that kind of money on a ticket only to have to stress over whether I can stand without being singled out for enjoying myself. I've said their stand/sit policies have been ridiculous for years now & it sounds like it got worse for these shows. I'm not 3 and can use my own common sense.

I saw on FB (and now can't remember from who) last night a complaint about how he had gotten called out for trying to take a couple of pics but yet he had seen a celebrity or 2 taking several pics & that one (I think he said it was a Kardashian?) even had a someone take a picture of her in front of the stage shortly after the show had started. Don't know how true it was but I had to laugh, tho it isn't funny, if it is indeed true.

Henley Honey
01-19-2014, 08:21 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about all the problems with security. I hate to sound like a broken record BUT I find it very frustrating for everyone. No way do I want to spend that kind of money on a ticket only to have to stress over whether I can stand without being singled out for enjoying myself. I've said their stand/sit policies have been ridiculous for years now & it sounds like it got worse for these shows. I'm not 3 and can use my own common sense.

I saw on FB (and now can't remember from who) last night a complaint about how he had gotten called out for trying to take a couple of pics but yet he had seen a celebrity or 2 taking several pics & that one (I think he said it was a Kardashian?) even had a someone take a picture of her in front of the stage shortly after the show had started. Don't know how true it was but I had to laugh, tho it isn't funny, if it is indeed true.


I hear you loud and clear, TBF, but security made it a point and spoke to all of us individually in the first 5 or 10 rows. They told us they were recording live and any flash or reflection from hand-held cameras would screw that up. I've never experienced that very specific, all-inclusive chat before. Usually they give you the old "no flash and no videos" speech and go on about their business. This was a very different speech and very specific. My feeling was if they are trying to film this, lets not screw it up -- let's play the game and HOPEFULLY get a new DVD out of it.

Personally, I didn't see any "celebrities" on the center floor section. I didn't see any pictures or videos being shot either.

Thirsty&Hot
01-19-2014, 08:49 PM
We met Henry Diltz, the photographer for the Desperado shoot who could not have been nicer. Soda's camera wasn't working so Henry's friend was gracious enough to use his camera to take a picture of Henry and Soda and email it to her. I knew Henry had a good sense of humor when I suggested that they say "peyote" instead of "cheese" for the picture. He gave me an ear to ear grin at the suggestion. A lovely man with a good sense of humor. I hope Soda posts the picture.

that's awesome! I love Henry! he does seem very down to Earth. he also shot other photos of the boys...not just the Desperado ones...but I know the HotE doc focused on that one, and of course that's an important one hehe.
he has also shot some of the most iconic album covers of all time... including for CSN and the Doors.
I hope Soda posts that photo too!

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 02:32 AM
Back home. Yes, meeting Henry Diltz made it all worthwhile. However, I am not very photogenic. Perhaps I will just crop myself out!

TimothyBFan
01-20-2014, 09:24 AM
Awww.. Soda, we'd love to see the WHOLE picture. :nod:

Brooke
01-20-2014, 12:24 PM
Well, sounds like another great show, but what else is new! It's the Eagles!

I really don't get security harrassing people over their sitting/standing/camera issues but letting people smoke, let alone smoke pot!

And I do think it's ridiculous that they have to tell fans when to sit or stand. These are grown ups and most, MOST, have a bit of common sense! Give or take a drunk or two! And how is the concert supposed to be fun and exciting if everyone has to sit the whole time? People are going to be pretty laid back if they are having to sit for two or three hours. I get it during a ballad, but Already Gone? One of their rockinest songs of all?

And I do get them giving their friends free tickets, rich or not. Who wouldn't?

Nancy, too cool about meeting Henry! Awesome! And yes, we want to see the whole picture! You're beautiful and will make Henry look good!

Freypower
01-20-2014, 05:26 PM
Back home. Yes, meeting Henry Diltz made it all worthwhile. However, I am not very photogenic. Perhaps I will just crop myself out!

Nancy, you know that is not true. Please don't crop yourself out.

Glennsallnighter
01-20-2014, 06:49 PM
I agree with FP. You look lovely Soda! We'd love to see you both, even if you just post it for a few days?

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 07:15 PM
Ok - here it is:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/losangeles2014/diltzme01-17-14small.jpg

GlennLover
01-20-2014, 07:16 PM
I agree, Nancy! Please post the photo with both of you in it.

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 07:18 PM
See above, GL! lol

GlennLover
01-20-2014, 07:23 PM
LOL back at 'cha! You look great, girl! :smokin:

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 08:17 PM
Thanks, GL!

Some additional thoughts:


Glenn brought out 'Plaintiff' again and again it got laughs. I laughed trying to picture Soda's reaction to it.

Five shows in a row I was lucky enough not to be subjected to it... I guess six was pushing my luck. My reaction was my typical cringing and brief contemplation of how such a cool guy could not realize how lame telling the same joke for so long is! And to think, I was considering taking down my reference to it on GFO, lol. God forbid they include it on another DVD after it's already been immortalized on Farewell 1. The thing is, it was indeed funny back then... ten years ago....


I was looking at Instagram and saw Kris Jenner posted (http://instagram.com/p/jUivDsG-JH/) a collage of her and friends, some concert shots, and her ticket... she has a shout out to Cindy and Glenn

her ticket said "COMP 0.00"
and many people commented about how she (and other celebrities) of all people SHOULD be paying for her ticket because she can definitely afford it

I look at it this way. Kris Jenner didn't get the ticket because she's a rich celebrity; she got it because she's a friend. It just so happens that she's also a rich celebrity, too.


I have a great time at both shows but people smoking pot was the worse they were going after people with cameras more then illegal drugs in Ca we have a no smoking law in malls I think bars I honestly thought it would mean concert venues that that need to smoke outside at intermission I had a bad today my 17th year had a pain episode so once I get my head back I am going to write a email plus there were so many drunks they should have put a limit on drinks one guy was walking in the street supposedly got him foot slightly ran over and punched the person windshield the area is bad I would rather drive 30 miles to venue in orange county but over I had a great a safe time :smile:

I'm with you 100% about the pot (and I'm sorry about your pain episode) but as far as the neighborhood goes, I think they're hoping the revitalization of The Forum will help businesses in the area and maybe make it better. I think that's great and I hope that people support the effort by attending shows there, especially since it's such a historic venue. So glad they decided to redo it instead of bulldoze it. My cousin said she went there a few years ago to see a rehearsal and it was really nasty. More power to them for giving it a makeover in order to save it, even if it's not perfect.


Desperada and I will be standing for the last gig in Dublin. We will be on the Early Entry tickets. Security will hardly be able to tell US to sit down..... will they...?
Well... I don't know if they're as anal if you're not on the floor. Maybe you'll be OK.

I know I sounded like a "Negative Nancy" lol in my initial posts, but it was so upsetting that it ruined things for me, especially since this will probably be my last Eagles show for a while. I haven't been that upset at an Eagles show since I was punched back in 2006 in Scotland. It wasn't even so much that he said to sit down as how ugly he was with Lissa, threatening to throw her out like that. Getting thrown out would piss off the average fan, but it would absolutely break the heart of hardcore fans like us - especially since this was one of only two shows that Lissa will see. I wish I had ended with Wednesday's show, which was very special for me, and skipped Friday. However, then I wouldn't have gotten to meet Henry Diltz, so I guess it was meant to be that I go to Friday, too.

That said, the Eagles certainly put on a great show and it's worth putting up with the Black Shirt BS to hear them. This is especially true considering that even if the Forum shows no longer have the extra encore, they still have all the things that made this tour special in the first place - Bernie's inclusion, the obscure songs, the cool "story" structure, etc. I still say that if you only see one Eagles show, see one of the shows on this tour.

I'm just going to try to put the bad stuff out of my mind because I'd hate for Friday to overshadow all the other great shows I've been to. This has been a fantastic tour overall. I think the Memphis show was one of the best Eagles shows I've ever seen, if not THE best, and it was such a thrill to hear SBR and How Long on Wednesday. I left with my heart singing. It's just my bad luck that after those two terrific experiences, the last one I'm going to for a while had to be such a disappointment.

I glanced at the Saturday show review, though, and it seems they're easing up! Maybe I should have tried to get a ticket Saturday night after all, but I was still sulking then. ;)

Houston Baby
01-20-2014, 08:28 PM
Great photo Nancy! You look gorgeous! And Lissa, Kay & I will take some credit since we helped pick out that top with you at the store in Pasadena! :wink:

Freypower
01-20-2014, 08:37 PM
Gorgeous photo.

It isn't just you. Most (not all) of the Borderers' reviews of these shows have strongly suggested to me that the band was going through the motions.

VAisForEagleLovers
01-20-2014, 08:51 PM
Maybe I'm just getting confused between the threads for the two nights, but I don't remember anyone but Soda being disappointed with this show, and her issues were caused by security and not the band, as far as I can tell. I didn't feel like they were going through the motions on Wednesday night, either, but they were definitely more into it on Friday night. They interacted with people in the audience, they moved around the stage more, smiled more, laughed more, even jumped around more. The vocals were a bit better, and even a glitch like Joe's technical difficulty was made to be entertaining. I've seen them go through the motions, back in 5/2012 when half the band had some sort of virus thing going on, and neither of these shows were anything like that.

Freypower
01-20-2014, 09:01 PM
Well, that's good to hear. Maybe I paid too much attention to how much was written about security issues. There wasn't a great deal written about the actual performances, it seemed to me.

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 09:07 PM
Perspectives are so funny. I actually thought they were more into it Wednesday! That and the inclusion of the extra encore made it the winner by far, but that's JMHO.

No single performance stood out to me as better than Wednesday, that's for sure. However, "going through the motions" is too harsh. Doolin' Dalton Reprise was moving as always; TITTL was stellar; OOTN was incredibly sexy (the entire band but especially Don and Glenn were really throwing themselves into that one); Those Shoes was smokin'.

Obviously, if the majority thought they were better Friday than Wednesday, then go with that!

Henley Honey
01-20-2014, 09:13 PM
Gorgeous photo.

It isn't just you. Most (not all) of the Borderers' reviews of these shows have strongly suggested to me that the band was going through the motions.

I dont know what specific reviews you are referring to, but let me be crystal clear. Your above-referenced statement in no conceivable way correctly reflects my opinion. I take complete umbrage with your blanket statement and I strongly resent its implication. Do not assume to put words in my mouth.

Freypower
01-20-2014, 09:17 PM
I dont know what specific reviews you are referring to, but let me be crystal clear. Your above-referenced statement in no conceivable way correctly reflects my opinion. I take complete umbrage with your blanket statement and I strongly resent its implication. Do not assume to put words in my mouth.

I didn't. I didn't mention you. I made a generalisation. For heaven's sake. If you felt differently then say so instead of reacting like this.

Henley Honey
01-20-2014, 09:26 PM
Your words:
"Most reviews have strongly suggested that the band was going through the motions."

The only thing I am strongly suggesting is that you are 100 percent wrong in your assumption. You do not speak for me. You do not have the right to speak for me. I dont think for one second that the band was going through the motions. You spoke before thinking so acknowledge that fact and move on.

Elizasong
01-20-2014, 10:32 PM
The over efficient security is disappointing to hear. It sounds like they are picking and choosing what they give people a hard time about. In "concert going" in general the assumed rule is always you can stand up unless you are blocking someone and they make a point of saying something. Everyone knows unless it's classical music concert that there is a possibility of people standing. it's even more disappointing if the artists themselves are discouraging it. They of all people want the right energy from the audience.

VAisForEagleLovers
01-20-2014, 10:47 PM
I've been to Eagles concerts where everyone stood during the ballads and they didn't care. It's just that most people don't stand during the ballads. Like I said, if people used common sense, it wouldn't be an issue and the band wouldn't have to concern themselves with it. They are up on the stage, and the have the best view of all the people bobbing and weaving trying to see around the one person standing when everyone else is sitting. They also know a lot of their fans are of an age where standing a lot isn't possible or recommended!

I knew this issue would be one that would be discussed a lot. Quite a few here have strong opinions on it. It's a shame the discussion detracted from the shows overall. Others obviously don't agree with me, but I thought both the shows I went to were fantastic! The guys worked hard to give the fans what they wanted and that somehow got lost in the shuffle.

Elizasong
01-20-2014, 10:58 PM
You are right VA. We shouldn't be discussing anything other than the Eagles performance. I'm glad everyone is enjoying the Forum shows. Wish I could get to another show.

VAisForEagleLovers
01-20-2014, 11:05 PM
You are right VA. We shouldn't be discussing anything other than the Eagles performance. I'm glad everyone is enjoying the Forum shows. Wish I could get to another show.

Well, I didn't quite mean that! The other discussion is important and there are those that want to talk about it. I'm just saying it's not fair to make it the only topic of discussion.

sodascouts
01-20-2014, 11:39 PM
Should we be discussing security solely, ignoring the phenomenal music and the efforts of the band? No. Should we omit discussing security entirely if it affects the concert experience? No to that as well, IMHO.

This is a show review thread. While one can argue I spent too much time talking about security, it had a large impact on the concert experience for many - not just me - and I was prompted to be more explicit about my dissatisfaction only in reply to VA's post; my first post just mentions it. Still, I'm not going to apologize for talking about it. Just like we talk about the seats and acoustics of the Forum in these reviews, we can talk about the security at the Forum.

That said, I reiterate that I find no fault with the quality of the Eagles' performances.

While I liked Wednesday's better, it wasn't because the band sucked on Friday. Far from it - they put on a great show as they always do. With the Eagles, it's not about "were they good?" It's simply a matter of HOW good! My opinion is that while Friday's performances were very good, I simply thought Wednesday's were even better.

When I say this, I do not mean to disparage those who found the Friday show superior. It is just my opinion and obviously it is not even a majority one, judging by most of the comments from those who went to both. They are overall very positive, and even considering my bad experience with the Black Shirts, I still feel the show is worth the money.

The History of the Eagles tour is amazing, as are the Eagles.

Freypower
01-20-2014, 11:42 PM
Your words:
"Most reviews have strongly suggested that the band was going through the motions."

The only thing I am strongly suggesting is that you are 100 percent wrong in your assumption. You do not speak for me. You do not have the right to speak for me. I dont think for one second that the band was going through the motions. You spoke before thinking so acknowledge that fact and move on.

I never said I spoke for you. I repeat that I never mentioned you. I was referring to the general impression I received. If I was wrong, so be it. If nobody intended to convey this impression, I believe them.

Thirsty&Hot
01-20-2014, 11:48 PM
Ok - here it is:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/losangeles2014/diltzme01-17-14small.jpg

aw you look stunning and beaming! don't be so modest ;)
so cool that you got to meet him and got a photo to boot!

i dig your earrings...is that turquoise I see?

Henley Honey
01-20-2014, 11:57 PM
I reiterate. I don't think the band went through the motions. I don't think they phoned it in. I dont think they gave less than 100 pct.
If I am incorrectly lumped into a generalization that does not correctly reflect my opinion then you can bet I will vehemently defend my position. I'd like to hear from others who were included in this generalization.

Im curious to see what the other attendees opinions are. Do any of you think the band only went through the motions?

sodascouts
01-21-2014, 12:04 AM
aw you look stunning and beaming! don't be so modest ;)
so cool that you got to meet him and got a photo to boot!

i dig your earrings...is that turquoise I see?

Thanks! You're so sweet! That's not turquoise - simply colored glass. They're actually quite inexpensive but I love how they catch the light!

VAisForEagleLovers
01-21-2014, 12:08 AM
Should we be discussing security solely, ignoring the phenomenal music and the efforts of the band? No. Should we omit discussing security entirely if it affects the concert experience? No to that as well, IMHO.

This is a show review thread. While one can argue I spent too much time talking about security, it had a large impact on the concert experience for many - not just me - and I was prompted to be more explicit about my dissatisfaction only in reply to VA's post; my first post just mentions it. Still, I'm not going to apologize for talking about it. Just like we talk about the seats and acoustics of the Forum in these reviews, we can talk about the security at the Forum.

That said, I reiterate that I find no fault with the quality of the Eagles' performances.

While I liked Wednesday's better, it wasn't because the band sucked on Friday. Far from it - they put on a great show as they always do. With the Eagles, it's not about "were they good?" It's simply a matter of HOW good! My opinion is that while Friday's performances were very good, I simply thought Wednesday's were even better.

When I say this, I do not mean to disparage those who found the Friday show superior. It is just my opinion and obviously it is not even a majority one, judging by the reviews here. They are overall very positive, and even with my bad experience, I feel the show is worth the money.

The History of the Eagles tour is amazing, as are the Eagles.

You shouldn't apologize for it. It was a big thing for you and PLS, no doubt about it. After reading what FP and others wrote recently in other threads as well, it seemed like the general consensus for these shows was that they weren't very good, and I didn't feel it was what any of us who'd been to the shows really felt. It doesn't really matter which show was better, they each had their strong points and it's a matter of preference. The important thing I want to have get across is that I, at least, thought both were terrific!

sodascouts
01-21-2014, 12:43 AM
Agreed.

Another thing about Friday's performance - my cousin was impressed by how well Joe handled the technical glitch. She plays guitar as well and said it was nice to know that even the pros have those kind of problems!

sodascouts
01-21-2014, 01:22 AM
Great photo Nancy! You look gorgeous! And Lissa, Kay & I will take some credit since we helped pick out that top with you at the store in Pasadena! :wink:

Thank you very much! ;) I wish you ladies could go shopping with me more often!

StephUK
01-21-2014, 02:03 PM
Ok - here it is:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/losangeles2014/diltzme01-17-14small.jpg

It's a lovely photo Nancy. You're very glamorous - next to you I'd look real scruffy.

Ive always been a dreamer
01-21-2014, 03:17 PM
First of all - I love the picture of you and Henry, Soda. It was really nice of his friend to follow through and send it to you. I remember as you both were starting to pose for it - I looked at Henry and jokingly said - "Hey - shouldn't you be the one taking the pictures?" I was thinking how cool it would be if we could get a group shot of us taken by Henry Diltz. But, then I also thought, if he did that, he'd probably tell us it was gonna cost us 10 grand. :grin: All kidding aside, he was very nice and gracious to us.

As far as the concerts, I can only give my personal experiences, which were very positive at both shows. I had great seats both nights, appreciation from the band members, and a band that gave it their all to entertain us. I've been to a total of 7 shows so far this tour, and believe me, I only continue to go see virtually the same show multiple times because I feel like this band puts their hearts and souls into every performance.

Both shows were great to me, but I did think they had a little of the first night jitters on Wednesday. For me, I enjoyed the Friday show just a little bit more simply because I thought the band and the crowd were a bit looser. However, I was disappointed that we didn't get 7BR and How Long again. I didn't personally experience any of the over-zealous security at these shows, although I have in the past and, unfortunately, it can put a damper on the concert experience.

Brooke
01-21-2014, 04:25 PM
Soda, your pic with Henry is gorgeous, as I imagined it to be! Love your top and earrings too! Good job ladies! :thumbsup: And how nice of Henry to allow it!

I can only say I would have loved to have gone to any of them and I've never been to a bad Eagles show. But, I haven't gotten to go to anywhere near as many in my whole lifetime as some of you have gone to this tour! You lucky ones! So, you all know when they are good and when they are better! And I agree, the black shirts can have a big impact on how much you enjoy it. And I've had the pleasure to sit or stand behind a big tall person and being short, it really sucks when you cannot see after paying big bucks.

theinsider
01-23-2014, 02:25 PM
Here’s the scuttlebutt.

While yes, Kendall may have gotten her ticket through Glenn’s wife, it was most likely through the Eagles manager’s wife Shelly. Kim Kardashian had her baby shower at Eagle manager Irving Azoff’s house and Khloe got married there. Now while Kendall is “dating” the guy from 1D, I suspect that he is going to go solo and the Azoff’s are wooing him to their management company. Also, Irving's son works at CAA who reps 1D. Expect the Kendall/Styles brake up will occur around the same time of the Style/1D breakup. It’s all about publicity.:brickwall:

And since this is a concert review thread, the show was great!:thumbsup:

sodascouts
01-24-2014, 06:35 PM
Well, I thought Kris Jenner thanked Cindy Frey for her tickets, but maybe I'm remembering wrong. Still, I find all the machinations with Styles interesting. Thanks for the info!

Glennsallnighter
01-24-2014, 07:52 PM
Ok - here it is:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/losangeles2014/diltzme01-17-14small.jpg

Amazing pic Nancy. You look fabulous! As does Henry!

sodascouts
01-24-2014, 08:22 PM
Thanks for the compliments, guys! This thread is boosting my self-esteem! lol

Witchy Woman
01-25-2014, 12:03 AM
You look great, Soda !!

sad-cafe
01-25-2014, 12:17 AM
that is so awesome Soda~

Tiffanny Twisted
01-25-2014, 09:07 AM
:grin:well as I see it...two iconic people in eagles history :grin:
the great photographer:bow:and the great woman , who had the vision and insight to start this message board as well as the sites for the band members:blueblob:


ooh and by the by you look so classic and stunning.:grin:

Glennhoney
01-25-2014, 09:37 AM
Ok - here it is:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/losangeles2014/diltzme01-17-14small.jpg

You look wonderful..great picture..

GlennLover
01-25-2014, 11:55 AM
:grin:well as I see it...two iconic people in eagles history :grin:
the great photographer:bow:and the great woman , who had the vision and insight to start this message board as well as the sites for the band members:blueblob:


ooh and by the by you look so classic and stunning.:grin:

Not to mention that How Long would not have been recorded if it wasn't for her. :nod:

shunlvswx
01-25-2014, 12:25 PM
Great picture of you and Henry, Soda. Henry is still handsome.

Thirsty&Hot
01-25-2014, 06:51 PM
Not to mention that How Long would not have been recorded if it wasn't for her. :nod:

ohh really? I don't know this story!

sodascouts
01-25-2014, 07:01 PM
First of all, thanks again guys. You all are too sweet!

T&H, all I did was upload "How Long" to YouTube, where the Freys saw it. I know it was me because at the time, there was no other version of it on YouTube. That was back in 2006 before YouTube was as ubiquitous as it is now; in fact, it had only been around for about a year at the time, and that early in the game there were actually very few Eagles videos on the site. I haven't uploaded videos to YouTube in years, but back then it was a different story. Anyway, it still blows my mind that even in such a small way, I contributed to Eagles history!

Thirsty&Hot
01-25-2014, 07:11 PM
that's so cool!

did they ask you to take it down? or do you know they saw it because they mentioned it in an interview?

VAisForEagleLovers
01-25-2014, 07:16 PM
They mentioned it in an interview, it's on here somewhere, and they mention it again in the documentary.

Tiffanny Twisted
01-25-2014, 08:34 PM
yeah va I know they have mentioned seeing the video on youtube in a few places but I never knew our Nancy was the responsible party.
And to think it all started there.......:bow:

deb828
01-25-2014, 08:46 PM
Great story Nancy! I love that video--wonderful that you were the one!

Thirsty&Hot
01-26-2014, 12:29 AM
I thought I had heard them mention it somewhere, but I couldn't remember where!
so awesome!