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sad-cafe
02-28-2014, 12:22 AM
as you know I teach very troubled kids.

Today an 19 year old Sr blew up in the hallway right before my class because he got his phone taken away...Security took him away and he was out of class for about 20 minutes (for some reason many students were absent so that gave me a little break) When he came back in, he apologized got a little work done and then started talking about why he gets angry so fast. The family is SUPER poor When he was 9, he, his mother and the baby sister were sleeping in bed. It was cold they only had a space heater and that is why the three of them were in the same bed. He said the baby was in the middle. They went to sleep and when they woke up, the baby 6 months old had died during the night . He said his mama went crazy and he kept trying to play it out to see if he caused it maybe he laid on her or something. He could describe the color of the tongue, the skin and everything. That is a LOT Of baggage to be carrying around.

Kind of puts a perspective on how troubled kids get thrown into the actions/behaviors situations we see.

My heart went out to him. All I could say was I'm sorry no one was there that could help you work it through. He blames himself for it happening. I guess when the police got there the whole family went nuts and a brother was tazed and this kid was hand cuffed and he has been in trouble ever sense.

WOW

bluefeather
02-28-2014, 08:50 AM
:thumbsup: that you have the patience and compassion to deal with those kind of kids:applause:

Brooke
02-28-2014, 01:16 PM
What a sad story, sc.

And thanks for what you do for these kids. It takes a special person to be able to handle it.

Ive always been a dreamer
02-28-2014, 02:07 PM
It is really sad that this young boy has to grow up carrying around such burden - unfortunately, it isn't an uncommon thing in this country. We should all be thankful for teachers like you who are willing to try to help these kids, s-c. I know it must be very frustrating at times, but it also must be rewarding when you can make a difference. Hang in there and "keep on tryin'". :bow:

DJ
02-28-2014, 03:35 PM
I think with todays parenting styles being so different from when I grew up, teachers are put in a lot of precarious positions. It is a tremendous amout of baggage for this kid to be carrying around since the age of 9.
Has he had any counseling for this? He obviously needs some because he blames himself and his parent doesn't seem to be helping or maybe isn't able to help because of her guilt. Truth be known the baby probably died of SIDS. I slept with my babies while nursing and never rolled on them.
You seem to be a caring teacher and he seems to open up to you. Nurture his desire to want to talk with you which will help him if he can't see a counselor. Good Luck:thumbsup:

sodascouts
03-01-2014, 09:45 PM
What an awful situation. I really admire people like you who deal with these troubled students.

sad-cafe
03-01-2014, 11:01 PM
oh thanks.

Some days it is very rewarding, other days like yesterday I want to just quit.

That same kid during my last hour had to be removed because he was calling another girl the B word and calling her the N word and talking about if he did her......

I just wanted to walk out the door.

tjh532
03-02-2014, 03:04 AM
Hang in there SC. It know its hard working with these kids. I worked with a boy who was left home alone with his baby sister. She was asleep in her crib in the basement when the house caught on fire. The fire dept barely got him out alive, and the baby sister was killed in the fire. It was an old house, and the wiring was faulty, but his mom and older siblings blamed him for not saving his sister. He was 10 at the time. And then people wonder why these kids are so angry and turn to drugs and gangs. We keep telling ourselves to leave the problems at the door when we go home, but it just isn't possible.

sad-cafe
03-06-2014, 11:58 PM
new kid:

This is an 11th grader. With us for vague info on sexual decisions....

caught him accessing porn in Oct . Suspended him...went to hearing to expel him...he got to stay but cut his schedule to 1/2 days. No computers. His legal team said he had redeemed himself and about December they bumped him back to full school and back on the computers. Today we get a call from his mom---he doesn't even live with her ...he is in a home. Apparently today sometime he used his moms online identity and committed some sort of fraud using her id and did something with kid porn. We checked his log on and he has been getting a LOT of porn in different classrooms different times. Some pictures the girls look 10 or 12. Needless to say the shit is going to hit the fan.

We have a site technology specialist (worthless baby) and part of her job is to monitor student accounts to look for things like this...she hasn't been doing it. He gets a one on one para who has the single sole job to monitor this kid on everything he does. He is to sit next to this kid and stick by him like glue. There are pages and pages of lesbian sex photos and all kinds of other disgusting things he has been to in my class and 5 other classes. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

bluefeather
03-07-2014, 07:32 AM
:yuck::yuck::yuck: I'm sorry for you SC

sad-cafe
03-07-2014, 10:10 PM
some days you feel like you are making a huge difference

some days you just feel like mud

MaryCalifornia
03-07-2014, 11:17 PM
God bless you, SC. Even if all you can accomplish with these kids is just maintaining the peace in your classroom and being nice to them, they will remember you forever.

sad-cafe
03-09-2014, 04:00 PM
I sure hope so.

What we do at Gway isn't for the faint of heart.


It is kind of like Meatball surgery. They get in trouble, they get sent to us for anywhere from 45 days to 186 days. We plug as many holes as we can in their transcript and hopefully model proper behavior that they can learn on what is appropriate or not given the setting and then if it all works right, we send them on their merry way hopefully to never see them as teachers again.

However currently we have 8 repeat offenders that were with us last year. That is not supposed to happen like that.

tjh532
03-09-2014, 04:27 PM
SC I have a question for you. I recently filled out an application for a job in another state, and I had to fill out a questionnaire. It asked quite a few questions about how much I think a student's culture/nationality plays into their attitude and behavior. Do you think that the kids you see are affected by their environment mostly, or do you think that their culture plays into it? Where I'm at now, we are about 50% Hispanic and 50% white. It is interesting to see the difference in priorities in the different cultures ( and they are there ). Mostly in the make up of gangs, but also in their outlook on life and how they view their future. Knowing that you deal with troubled kids, I would like your take on that.

sad-cafe
03-25-2014, 10:06 PM
Absolutely environment plays a HUGE role. Many of these kids grow up with parents in gangs and even grandparents in gangs. That is all they know. They are taught hate from day one, dressed in red/blue/brown/black what ever their parents are. Other kids grow up in households that yell and scream for communication. They expect that from everyone. Many times I lower my voice if I need to talk to a student. You would be surprised how that catches their attention. Very poor kids know all kinds of incredible tricks to get food/money/needs. They know when stores throw out bread that is too old to sell but not rotten yet. They know how to return items maybe bought with snap benefits but take them back and get cash.

Children born of alcoholics know how to compensate for their parents-if they do not become alcoholics themselves. They know how to watch out for their younger siblings-older ones often put themselves in the line of fire -its just instinct or survival.

The kids of today are incredibly resourceful and smart in a street wise way.


A sad note-one of my favorite students that seemed to be making huge strides in behavior and grades was put in jail over the spring break for unlawful discharge of a firearm. Gang stuff-we don't know for sure but probably was with his gang when they did a drive-by :(

DJ
03-25-2014, 10:20 PM
Wow that is a lot to handle. A year or so ago my nephew got arrested in a Child Pornography sting. In a million years I never would have believed this kid would do something like that. I just don't understand the "draw" to child porn or porn at all! I was watching the View tv program the other day and their was a 18 yr old girl on there bragging about how she is doing pornography and putting herself through college! WTF.. Where are her parents. She has no idea she is ruining her life. All she see is the money, which is laughable, she makes 1500$ a picture and none of her "films" have been shown yet. Sounds to me as if she's being paid to be a prostitute.
Our world is so corrupt these days. I know people say oh it's been that way all along and you just didn't hear about it. I don't think it has been.
All I can conclude with is it starts at home. If these children don't have a home life or parental care they are doomed.
Hang in there, sounds like you may be all these kids have. :worried:

bluefeather
03-26-2014, 12:03 PM
so sad about that student, SC, I'm sorry

tjh532
03-26-2014, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the reply SC - I can see that we agree on the subject. It's even sadder when you see some of the same behaviors happening at the elementary level.

Sorry to hear about your student. It's hard when you invest so much energy into one of your kids, but they still can't make a good choice (or resist a bad one). Have you read any of the books by Ruby Payne? She lines out the differences between the classes in our country and how there thinking is so different. It's not that they are bad kids, it's just all they know. It was a real eye opener to me when I went back to work and saw how kids were living and being raised.

sad-cafe
04-06-2014, 02:22 PM
I wish I could just quit. I am sick of the adult issues in my building.

My principal wigged out because my students had headphones on (some of them are in music appreciation and actually need to listen to music)

None were on you-tube yet a couple of old biddys in our building cry that the kids get to listen to headphones in my room and they are trying to say that no one is allowed. I had been walking that tightrope but Friday the principal came in and all kids were on task but had headphones on and he really wigged out.

Yesterday morning one of the biddies texted me and asked me if everything was okay...she was just playing games, what she really wanted to know was if I had gotten in trouble.

I am tired of trying to do what is best for my students while the other bitches are just trying to nag and be controlling.

If I could, I would tell them all to kiss of and walk out.

sodascouts
04-06-2014, 04:02 PM
Wow. Sorry you have to deal with people like that!

bluefeather
04-06-2014, 06:18 PM
Ugh sounds like it couldn't be much worse in the school, SC, I'm sorry

How wonderfully idiotic can people be sometimes!:scowl:

sad-cafe
04-06-2014, 11:22 PM
Kansas teacher and more importantly Kansas Children just LOST BIG TIME





We just lost due process rights, bargaining rights, and our salary schedule by a vote of 63-57. They needed 63 votes to pass. What a sad day for Kansas. Who would want to teach here now? — at Kansas State Capitol.
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tjh532
04-07-2014, 12:41 AM
Sorry about the issues at your school SC - don't you just love employee politics? Some people aren't happy unless they are stirring the pot.

As far as losing your bargaining rights, pay steps, etc. that seems to be happening all over. We are over crowded in all of our schools, and desperately need more buildings. We just passed a bond levy by less than 1%. And that is only because of the calling campaign we all had to participate in. People could never do the job we do, but they won't support us either. It's frustrating.

bluefeather
04-07-2014, 06:00 AM
I'm SO sorry for the kids and the teachers