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WalshFan88
05-08-2014, 06:08 PM
Someone suggested in the Eagles Guitars thread to make a thread for asking and answering basic guitar questions or non-Eagles related band guitar questions about other musicians.

I will refer you to that thread for the "guitar identifier" pictures as I've listed all of the typical brands and even some the Eagles don't use on there such as every popular Fender and Gibson guitar.

This is more of a platform for people to ask questions about guitars or guitar-related gear and I or someone else will answer them. Also discussion of guitars not related to the Eagles (other bands, guitarists, etc) is welcomed in this thread. For any Eagles specifics - check out that thread in the Eagles forum.

For all Eagles-related guitar info and pictures to identify popular guitars, please see this thread: https://eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=277188

And we're off! :hilarious:

Freypower
05-08-2014, 07:08 PM
Allow me one post of self-indulgence, please, Austin. Have you heard of John Monteleone? Mark Knopfler wrote a song about him which features on the Kill To Get Crimson album. I have a doco where MK talks about the five most influential gutiars he has owned & this is one of them:

http://www.monteleone.net/Biography.php

http://www.monteleone.net/Artists-mark_knopfler.php

WalshFan88
05-08-2014, 07:21 PM
I didn't know that! Just looked at his gallery - amazing instruments!

sodascouts
05-09-2014, 12:07 AM
Here's something I'm curious about... pedals. What kinds of effects do they add to the guitar sounds?

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 01:42 AM
Here's something I'm curious about... pedals. What kinds of effects do they add to the guitar sounds?

Great question. :)

There are many different types of effects pedals.

Here are just some of the few kinds:

Delay/Echo, Reverb, Tremolo, Phaser, Chorus, Flanger, Distortion/Overdrive, Fuzz Box, Wah-Wah, etc.

Delay is varying amounts of echo, reverb is a room spatial sound (many types such as plate reverb similar to what is used in a recording studio), tremolo is a "choppy" effect causing a sound to purposefully cut in and out, phaser is a "swirling" sound, chorus is similar to delay but it is a bit more lush and sounds like two guitars at once (layman's terms), flanger is similar but has more of a swooshing sound rather than a Leslie-like swirl of a phaser, distortion causes the guitar to sound distorted if the amp doesn't have it already, fuzz is a wacky sound that sounds like a broken speaker, and wah is a pedal that sweeps midrange so it creates a "wah" or "wow" vocal effect.

Hope that helps. :)

Prettymaid
05-09-2014, 09:13 AM
Wow. All I notice is that when a guitarist is finishing his solo part I see him use a pedal...guess I'm not paying attention at the beginning of the solo to see him use the pedal then. :D

I'm fascinated watching guitarists. Just the simple bending of a string makes a world of difference to the sound!

sodascouts
05-09-2014, 09:15 AM
Interesting! If you have a chance, could you post a few examples of which pedals get used on which songs? You could put it in the Eagles thread if you want to use Eagles examples.

shunlvswx
05-09-2014, 01:09 PM
Somebody wanted to know about this and I did. So how does the talk box work. I know there's a tube that they (for example Joe) blow into it, but I don't know how the guitar comes into it.

shunlvswx
05-09-2014, 01:10 PM
I do too, PM. I know they step on it, but I never knew what it does.

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 04:31 PM
This is a song that features tremolo and fuzz box on guitar and an envelope filter on the bass (which is creating that funky bass pop sound).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvuL5jyCHOw

This is a song that features phaser on guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBLLQaTODYE

This is a song that features flanger on guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8lRssjN48

This is a song that features chorus on guitar (the country sounding intro):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHEUsGhUtgg

This is a song that features wah on guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvmKlZGTTU4

This is a song that features delay/long echo on guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiRn3Zlw3Rw

I'll try to think of Eagles examples later and post them in the Eagles Guitars thread.

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 04:32 PM
PM - The pedal most kick on before a solo is a booster to make them louder than the rest of the band and stand out in the mix and be heard. Usually boosts volume.

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 04:36 PM
Shun - That is a great question and one I don't fully know the answer to! I've never used a talkbox although I LOVE it! (RMW and Those Shoes and many Peter Frampton songs and of course Bon Jovi's "Livin' On A Prayer").

The way I understand it is that there is a separate amp that drives the guitar sound up the tube and that you talk back down the tube that gets mixed with your guitar amp.

Here's an article that is way better at explaining this than I am.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/audio-music/talk-box.htm

shunlvswx
05-09-2014, 05:04 PM
PM - The pedal most kick on before a solo is a booster to make them louder than the rest of the band and stand out in the mix and be heard. Usually boosts volume.

Now that makes sense. They do sound louder when they do a solo.

shunlvswx
05-09-2014, 05:06 PM
I think Richie Sambora uses the talk box on Its My life.

Thanks for that info, Austin.

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 05:35 PM
I think Richie Sambora uses the talk box on Its My life.

Thanks for that info, Austin.

Yep that's true.. The Jovi songs that use it are Livin' On A Prayer (the intro whoah a whoah part) and It's My Life... :) They are kind of a guilty pleasure band for me. :hilarious:

sodascouts
05-09-2014, 05:39 PM
Thank you so much for all this info, Austin. I appreciate you taking the time.

WalshFan88
05-09-2014, 06:32 PM
Thank you so much for all this info, Austin. I appreciate you taking the time.

You're welcome!

thelastresort
01-04-2015, 06:11 PM
Bit techie and non-band related, but seems as good a place as any - what do you do when a string catches on a fret when strummed? For example, if you played something on the fourth fret yet it caught the fifth whilst in motion, creating the odd fuzzy kinda sound. Is it to do with tuning or something else?

WalshFan88
01-05-2015, 02:58 AM
Bit techie and non-band related, but seems as good a place as any - what do you do when a string catches on a fret when strummed? For example, if you played something on the fourth fret yet it caught the fifth whilst in motion, creating the odd fuzzy kinda sound. Is it to do with tuning or something else?

Not sure I'm following you 100% TLR, but if you mean it "sticks" against the fret, or catches on the underneath edge the top and bottom of the fret, it's a mechanical/technical problem that shouldn't be happening. There are a lot of guitars out there with less than stellar fretwork and definitely shouldn't be happening.

If what you mean is that the high or low E string catches underneath the fret or the string sticks to the top of the fret, that shouldn't be happening. For the former, you pretty much need new frets or them reglued. For the latter, you could try something like Finger-Ease (basically a string lubricant that is probably nothing more than something like WD-40 but ok for guitar finishes) by spraying on the neck and wiping with a dry cloth up and down the strings to get rid of stickiness. If it's the strings that are sticky, replace them. If it's the frets, spray the Finger-Ease on a rag and run it up and down over each of the frets and it will get rid of grime. Or better yet, use Q-Tips soaked in the lubricant. Just make sure it's guitar-safe or made for guitars, whatever you use, as some products will eat through finish, especially on old guitars with nitrocellulose lacquer finish.