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10-24-2016, 03:04 PM
This is a little tidbit from Artie Wayne's memories of his days at the Troubadour. I didn't include it in Randy's press thread b/c it was not much but it did reference Glenn. I thought it offered a small glimpse into their personalities. AFAIK, it hasn't been posted already.

It was also on a Monday night when Glenn Frye and Randy Meisner of the Eagles wrestled me to the ground, took my highly polished Frye boots with "sissified" custom built platform heels, and threw them onto Santa Monica Boulevard as a joke.

I note he spelled "Frye" instead of Frey and referred to the boots as "Frye" as well.


10-24-2016, 03:38 PM
I knew I'd seen something similar before. There was also something about The Hollies wanting to record "Witchy Woman".

10-24-2016, 04:12 PM
I knew I'd seen something similar before. There was also something about The Hollies wanting to record "Witchy Woman".

The Hollies probably never put it out back in the day, but they actually did record "Witchy Woman" and it finally surfaced a few years back on a multi-disc collection of lps and rarities. They do a respectable job with it, but it's a far cry from the Eagles' version.

10-24-2016, 08:49 PM
Funny story, although I feel for the guy if he lost his neat boots, lol.

10-25-2016, 05:50 PM
Interesting article, UTW. I didn't know anyone covered PEF back then. And I'm trying to imagine the Hollies doing WW. That might be something to check out.

10-25-2016, 08:08 PM
Cool story. Sounds like something they'd do.:spin:

12-07-2016, 01:22 PM
Randy and "Pogo" made their Troubadour debut Oct. 14 or 21, 1968 on "Hoot Night." They then appeared again as "R.F.D." on Oct. 24. This is a review they received:



Los Angeles Herald-Examiner

They popped into the Troubadour one Monday night, then disappeared, only to show up again last Thursday. At the time they were called Pogo, but this week they are called R.F.D. They dow something between country and rock, authentically both, with leanings one way and another. They are the Richie Furay group.

Furay, who also brought Jim Messina from the Buffalo Springfield with him, took the trouble to rehearse them well before the public saw them, a gesture that the packed house appreciated. The group goes in for the high rich harmonies that the Springfield loved, except that in the Springfield Furay was usually the highest voice and in R.F.D. the bass player, Randy Meisner, sings above him. Occasionally this leads to a little screechiness, but they will probably get over that.

The lead guitar is played by Rusty Young, and it is a steel guitar (Hawaiian-style that is) It is not surprising to hear a steel playing country solos on songs like "What A Day" or "Yes Indeed." What is amazing is to hear a hard rock solo as on "Short Changed."

The sound is much like the Springfield in ways, enough so that old fans will be new fans, but not so much that they are simply a copy (Dewey Martin, by the way, is billing his new group as Buffalo Springfield, which is legal but ludicrous).

The Troubadour promised that they will be back in a few weeks for a regular engagement.

("screechiness"? :mad:)

12-07-2016, 02:05 PM
Thank you! That page won't load for me though.

12-07-2016, 03:30 PM
Photo taken of "Pogo" between 11/19-12/01/68

Pogo at the Troubadour (L to R, Messina, Meisner, Grantham, Furay and Young) Note on the floor between Furay and Meisner the gift from fan Kathy Johnson that becomes the cover art for their From the Inside album. (Photo credit: Richie Furay Archives)

Two reviews from the same time period:


by Pete Johnson

Los Angeles Times

The Troubadour is showcasing two new acts - Pogo and Biff Rose - through Dec. 1 and now is the time to catch them since each seems destined for larger arenas. The show is, in fact, one of the best I've seen this year.

Pogo resembles the Buffalo Springfield, no accident, since it contains two former members of the rock group: Richie Furay and Jim Messina.

The quintet, however, leans even more towards country music than the Springfield did, an inclination which has led to the inclusion of Rusty Young, who plays steel guitar and dobro.

Richie Furay shares lead vocals with Randy Meisner, bassist for the group (Furay plays rhythm guitar, as does Messina). Rounding out Pogo is George Grantham on drums.

All are capable musicians and the singing combination of Furay and Meisner is terrific. Both have high, flexible voices which melt together in delightful harmonies and separate for strong solos.

Pogo is also one of the tightest groups I have seen, a coordination which obviously stems from endless practices and good feelings within the combo.

The band seems like the natural heirs to the originality, diversity and togetherness which marked the beginnings of the Byrds and the Buffalo Springfield, Southern California's two best folk-rooted rock groups so far.


By Michael Etchison

Los Angeles Herald-Examiner

At the Troubadour, Biff Rose shares the bill with Pogo, formerly R.F.D., formerly Buttermilk, Richie Furay's group, that is.

Pogo, who will be at the club with Rose through Dec. 1, have broadened their material since their one-night stand a few weeks back. They are still a seemless combination of rock and country, but there is a bit more variety now.

Several songs are Everly Brothers-dreamy, especially "Today my First Love Has Arrived." "Crazy Eyes" started out that way, then got very high-powered.


*sorry the other link didn't work for you NMB; this one should although you'll have to click on the sublinks*

12-11-2016, 12:15 PM
Dang, that Deliverin' person is one heck of a researcher. He or she had a web page chronicle of every known concert that Randy ever played. Wish I could thank him/her.

12-12-2016, 11:58 AM
I didn't realize it was the same person who did the concert chronologies for both Poco and Randy, but it makes sense. Randy's is a treasure trove of information and I am both grateful for and impressed by it. I think there may be one Eagles concert date that is wrong.

As an aside, Randy's information shows he played some European tour dates with Rick Nelson and the Stone Canyon Band in 1970. So the comment in the HOTE documentary that Bernie was the only Eagle to have ever been out of the U.S. before recording the debut album in London was another misstatement.

01-08-2017, 07:35 PM
Another review of "Pogo" at the Troubadour, during the period of Feb. 4-9, 1969.


By Michael Etchison

Los Angeles Herald-Examiner

Pogo is not quite the house band of the Troubadour; it only seems that way. Most clubs should have a house band that good.

Not, unfortunately, that their opening night this time around was the best they have been. More than once, they seemed to be straining to keep it together. Since I have never seen a hint of this before, I take it that it will not happen often.

Their material (all written by Richie Furay) remains divided between rock and country, neither pure. "How Many More" for example, begins in an easy lope and unobtrusively but rapidly becomes very powerful, only to back off, then do it again.

The high point of the set I saw was bassist Randy Meisner's singing of "Anyway Bye Bye," in which he started out sounding something like Rusty Draper in "Night Life" and rising to a falsetto climax that sparked cheers from the partisan audience.

As I listened to them, I found myself thinking that there are two singer-songwriters whom Furay should get to know. EAch of them writes something like the others, but not so much that no cross-pollination would be possible. Then I realized I was thinking of Steve Stills and Neil Young, and the Buffalo Springfield is already dead.

My emphasis. I don't know who Rusty Draper is; I'll have to check him out. I'm guessing it was during this period (Fall/Winter) that "an unemployed Glenn Frey" was hanging around the Troubadour and watching their rehearsals. Glenn arrived in L.A. the previous summer.


01-09-2017, 10:42 AM
Rusty Draper singing "Night Life"

The reference was totally lost on me, so I looked it up on the YouTubes.

East Texas Girl
01-09-2017, 03:04 PM
Kudos to Randy!

01-10-2017, 12:57 AM
Wow, Mr. Rusty Draper had some kind of smooth, sultry voice. That's quite a compliment for Randy.

I can't resist posting a portion of another review from the same time period:


By Pete Senoff

Open City

Roots music invaded the City of Angels in a big way last week as the Troubadour, Whisky, and UCLA's Royce Hall presented programs of country-western, rustic-folk, Irish-folk and Judy Collins...

...In comparision, Pogo's opening night performance at the Troubadour illustrated that the group is a great rock unit employing country-western influences. After being introducted as "Doug 'Weston's Version of the Rodeo," Pogo, led by Richie Furay and Randy Meisner ran up to the stage, yipping and yelling their Minnie Pearl-like "Howdies" and proceded to do a set of material that perhaps could best be labled: uptempo Buffalo Springfield (they even included one Springfield standard, Furay's "A Child's Claim to Fame."

I'm trying to imagine quiet, limelight-shy Randy doing this.:huh: But maybe he wasn't quite like that back then. The review goes on to say Goldie Hawn was in the audience.

East Texas Girl
01-10-2017, 02:15 PM
Loving all these reviews you are finding Delilah! Keep them coming. I love to read all that I can on Randy and I have not seen these before.

03-07-2018, 01:55 PM
I know I have been remiss in updating this topic. Anyway, here is something else about Randy’s Poco days at The Troubadour provided by musician Arnie Moore, who played bass for John Stewart (formerly of The Kingston Trio). There’s also an interesting bit about Glenn.

All these people, the Eagles, Glen Frey especially, and Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner. That reminds me of the very first time I saw Poco perform. I don't know what year it was. They didn't have a record contract, but somebody had put in a lot of money because Richie Furay could put it together because of the Buffalo Springfield. They rehearsed for months out in Topanga Canyon, and I walk in the Troubador one night and there are all these record people there, so I think something is going to happen. You see, Monday night there is hoot night. You can sign up and perform, and between 10 and 11 o'clock is the prime spot, and record companies will bring their debut artists in and people that want to audition for somebody get that spot. So I go in there and there are the original Poco, with Randy Meisner on bass. They came out there and did five songs, I can't remember which, and blew the place apart. Nobody could believe it! Nobody had ever seen Randy Miesner before. He'd done little things around town, but nobody was really aware of him. He'd been in other little groups and things. The Poor, they'd come out of Colorado, or wherever it was they'd gotten together. Came out to L.A. to make it big and didn't. Randy got found by Richie and in to Poco. Rusty Young, he's a nice cat as well. The Troubador is the centre of all that, the hang out place where we all go if we're lonely, or want to go out for a beer or meet some friends. A year before the Eagles formed, before anybody heard about it, Glen Frey asked me to come over and play rock and roll with him. I was always on the road, just like I am now, and I never got time to go over and play with Glen Frey! Had time to go over and hear them rehearse after they got together, but I can't sing like Randy Meisner, I wish I could. I love high harmonies.

”The Arnie Moore Interview” by Peter O’Brien, Omaha Rainbow, Issue 4, April 29, 1974 (http://bitemyfoot.org.uk/omaha/or4/or4_05.html)

03-08-2018, 04:55 PM
Too bad he never made it by to play rock & roll with Glenn!

Cool interview! Thanks Delilah!

East Texas Girl
03-08-2018, 05:30 PM
Wow, very interesting, Delilah, thanks for finding it!

03-08-2018, 05:34 PM
Very nice find, Miss Delilah, and I REALLY like your new avatar photo (va-va-voom!).

03-08-2018, 06:27 PM
You’re welcome everyone.

And thanks, NMB, I like it too. :heart:

03-08-2018, 06:32 PM
Is it a screen still from the 1989 Poco appearance on Dutch tv? He was looking so fine. That's the longest he'd had his hair since like 1974.

03-08-2018, 06:37 PM
Yes ma’am, it sure is! I guess he gave up that 80s hair look by then.