Don Felder videos on YouTube and other video sites

[sodascouts]

Not too many Felder videos on YouTube, but this one is interesting:

Don Felder talks about making Hotel California

[sodascouts]

For his birthday, I made a Felder video:

Night Owl

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Another great video, Soda! I'm sure there will be many appreciative Felder fans out there. :nod:

[ticky]

Great Vid Soda! Wonderful hommage to Don. (little creepy the whole looking in the window at the girl getting dressed tho *G*) but It's always fun watching him play. He's SO good!

[TimothyBFan]

I'm sure this might of been posted already somewhere, maybe in Eagles on YouTube, I didn't find it right away. So I thought I would post it here. Sorry if you have already saw it. Good interview and such with Don Felder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgXskgEV89w&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

[MikeA]

Very nicely done Soda.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for the link, TBF. Yeah - that was definitely one of the most positive, upbeat interviews that I've seen from Felder. Maybe, it was because he couldn't bring himself to say the words "Glenn Frey". :wink: :wink: Just kidding with the sarcasm - I actually did enjoy watching that.

[sodascouts]

Not sure which show this is from and it's just a partial, but here's some footage of Felder doing Seven Bridges Road at a recent concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zTK4iq7wk

[Prettymaid]

Thanks for posting that Soda.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Wow - now that's what I mean! :wink:

I have said several times that I'm not fond of the idea of Don performing some Eagles songs such as Take It Easy and Peaceful Easy Feeling in his live shows since he had no hand in either the writing or the original recording of those songs. However, to me. this is an Eagles song that he absolutely should perform. I'd love to see him do this song live.

FANTASTIC!!!

[sodascouts]

It was so thrilling to hear that song live that I gave him a standing ovation for it.

[sodascouts]

This is from his recent show in Niagara Falls (only half the song):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ouey8123k

[pueblo47]

I like that and I miss him a lot. But he's doing great on his own and I'll always be a fan of his.

[sodascouts]

Felder's "Unscripted" interview has been placed on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upfQMjR--RQ

[RamboIV]

As some of you may know, Don Henley's youtube goons (ie Cass Country) deleted my youtube account because of my Eagles: History and Critique series but ALSO for my Don Felder concert videos. Well, I have finally made a new account and I have posted almost all of my concert videos that I know aren't targets of copyright trolls. This is includes the audio version of Felder's cover of "Superstition" and the ONLY LIVE VIDEO IN EXISTENCE of "Heavy Metal" (at least of right now), which you can check out here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYblv9QjEi8

You can see PLENTY of more videos on my youtube channel such as live performances from Fleetwood Mac, Styx, Foreigner, Blue Oyster Cult, AC/DC, Steve Miller Band, Creedence Clearwater Revisited, REO Speedwagon, and many more. So check that out as well.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceAgeWhizKids

[sodascouts]

Just found this on YouTube - you can't see much but it's fun to listen to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCNYs7LILeI

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8vh2Fcdxt8&feature=sub

[sodascouts]

Cool! You are on the ball, Austin!

[WalshFan88]

Cool! You are on the ball, Austin!

Thanks! As a guitarist I follow the NAMM announcements on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook because a lot of it is about new guitars and equipment and I am glad when stuff like this shows up! :) Along with a lot of new gear!

[Prettymaid]

I don't know anything about guitars and was surprised to hear that they duplicate the dents and scratches!

[WalshFan88]

I don't know anything about guitars and was surprised to hear that they duplicate the dents and scratches!

Gibson and Fender do that a lot. They will take a guitarist's number one guitar, examine it inch by inch, taking tons of photos, and measuring everything and listening to it's sound. Then they can have their builder in the custom shop duplicate it to an exact T. Gibson has done it for Jimmy Page, Billy Gibbons, Mike Bloomfield, Angus Young, etc and Fender has done it for Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, John Mayer, Keith Richards, etc.

It's pretty cool but way overpriced (at 10 thou). I sent a nice email to the head of the custom shop at Gibson asking them to do a lower priced model (2-3k) for those of us that are Felder fans and can't afford it. They said no. These will be bought by rich collectors and they will probably hang on a wall in a glass case never to be played, just to be looked at. That is one of my biggest guitar pet peeves. It's not a painting, PLAY IT! Yes, they do look nice but if you just want something to stare at you can buy some nice paintings or art for the same dough. But oh well, it's Gibson. The biggest overpriced guitars as of current-times. Fender is much more reasonable with their prices. They themselves can get overpriced but no where near Gibson.

I think if they did a Don Felder signature model in the 1-3k range and they don't have to be exact like the 10k ones, just give me a guitar with the same top design and sound as Felder's original. Now I would buy that.

I'm still waiting for a JW sig but I think we'd see a JW Fender guitar before we would a JW Gibson guitar. He and Gibson "got into it" in the late 90s and he rarely plays Les Pauls anymore, where as in the early days that was his favorite instrument. I do know though he is playing lots of new Fenders so maybe we will see a signature Strat or Tele soon. I will be waiting for one!

[sodascouts]

He and Gibson "got into it" in the late 90s and he rarely plays Les Pauls anymore, where as in the early days that was his favorite instrument.

Interesting! What happened to turn him off Gibson?

[WalshFan88]

Interesting! What happened to turn him off Gibson?

This right here was pretty much the start of it. Gibson asked him to play one of their new model Les Pauls at the NAMM show in '94. They handed it to him strung up wrong, and it sounded AWFUL, and would not stay in tune and was built very poorly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkDdT_EPbo

Then after this, he and Gibson got into it about endorsement prices, etc and he pretty much stopped using the brand for the most part after 2000.

[sodascouts]

Thanks for the info, Austin. sorry for the Joe question in the Felder thread but I was very curious! I'll get things back on track now.

Felder says they approached him about a "Copy" or a "reissue" - are those the same?

[WalshFan88]

Thanks for the info, Austin. sorry for the Joe question in the Felder thread but I was very curious! I'll get things back on track now.

Felder says they approached him about a "Copy" or a "reissue" - are those the same?

No problem! :)

Yeah.. Basically taking the guitar and making a replica/copy of it to reissue and sell.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkh4MKUeF28

I've been watching Felder videos today. I do miss him playing with Walsh. They complimented each other so well. My favorite guitar duo. Felder is a great player, regardless of what he published in his book and what has happened, no one can deny the guy can play. I think I'll finish my night off with Christchurch if ya know what I mean! ;) My favorite Eagles DVD. Just so fun to watch them.

[WalshFan88]

A new interview with Felder about rehabilitation and music therapy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI4O9qhWnPc

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKlo7Om5M0

A pretty cool video of Don playing guitar as music therapy for individuals with brain injuries.

[sodascouts]

Thanks for finding these. Felder is doing a lot of good.

[Annabel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkh4MKUeF28

I've been watching Felder videos today. I do miss him playing with Walsh. They complimented each other so well. My favorite guitar duo. Felder is a great player, regardless of what he published in his book and what has happened, no one can deny the guy can play. I think I'll finish my night off with Christchurch if ya know what I mean! ;) My favorite Eagles DVD. Just so fun to watch them.

Is that the one in the pouring rain? I loved that DVD when I saw it first time. They all seemed to be 'playing nicely and having 'fun' despite the foul weather. ;) I like seeing Felder and Walsh play together too. And yes that guy can play. :blueblob:

[WalshFan88]

Is that the one in the pouring rain? I loved that DVD when I saw it first time. They all seemed to be 'playing nicely and having 'fun' despite the foul weather. ;) I like seeing Felder and Walsh play together too. And yes that guy can play. :blueblob:

Yup in the rain.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBxPsbwP68

[sodascouts]

Don's keeping busy, I see!

[WalshFan88]

Don's keeping busy, I see!

Yep! He seems to be doing a lot of charity work and also working with music therapy. Maybe he's trying to do something good for people or maybe he's doing it to "look good", and I hope it's the former.

I found it hilarious and irritating at the same time when the auctioneer said it was the guitar that Felder recorded Hotel California with. :brickwall: If he knew anything at all about Felder's guitars, he would have known it was a 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst that he used on the song and most of the album (VOL and NKIT was the only exception where he used a Fender Stratocaster). He used a Fender 50s Tweed Deluxe amp cranked up, the same one he used on the song OOTN. That guitar they auctioned off looks brand spanking new LOL, which it is. I think the auctioneer was just trying to get more money for it! :hilarious: I'm glad Don set him straight. I'd be pissed if I bought the guitar thinking it was the one used on the album. But then again if it was me, I would have obviously known better and known it wasn't! :rofl:

[sodascouts]

Yep! He seems to be doing a lot of charity work and also working with music therapy. Maybe he's trying to do something good for people or maybe he's doing it to "look good", and I hope it's the former.

I see no reason to doubt his sincerity.

[WalshFan88]

I see no reason to doubt his sincerity.

I wasn't. :brickwall: I'm just saying I hope he is doing it for the right reasons. He seems to be from what I can tell. But I can't help but to wonder if it is a case of the fact that it might partially be because he wants to "look good" compared to the other Eagles because of the fact he is doing all this work (donations, therapy, etc) compared to his former bandmates and try to look like the good guy and portray them in an negative light.

No big deal. I'm a huge fan of his if you didn't know. No disrespect meant. I have a tendency to really question things and wonder the intent of people's actions or words. I'm just more of a sensitive/paranoid person who sits around for hours and thinks about what someone said and how they meant it and worry about it and get myself into a tizzy/upset or question the intent of someone's actions or good deeds. I have a tendency to be on the very sensitive side and overreact and take offense to things quickly, no matter how trivial. I don't handle criticism at all and am very sensitive. Hence why I'm a recluse/hermit crab/very shy person and don't get out much because I'm afraid someone will say something that will upset me. I also have a hard time telling if someone is joking or serious. I have a tendency to take things the wrong way. It's just my personality. It's just one of my "quirks" I guess you could say. It's something I struggle with daily (sensitivity and paranoia).

[sodascouts]

I have a tendency to really question things and wonder the intent of people's actions or words. I'm just more of a sensitive/paranoid person who sits around for hours and thinks about what someone said and how they meant it and worry about it and get myself into a tizzy/upset or question the intent of someone's actions or good deeds. I have a tendency to be on the very sensitive side and overreact and take offense to things quickly, no matter how trivial. I don't handle criticism at all and am very sensitive. Hence why I'm a recluse/hermit crab/very shy person and don't get out much because I'm afraid someone will say something that will upset me. It's just my personality. It's just one of my "quirks" I guess you could say. It's something I struggle with daily (sensitivity and paranoia). Oh no! This is not a good thing, Austin. I believe (and maybe this is naive) that most people are essentially good and I don't assume the worst about anyone until they give me reason to doubt them. See, if you want to think the worst, your mind can always find a way to do so. That's why we have so many conspiracy theorists! I've seen this before personally. There are people that are positive I am a horrible person. Every time there is a possibility to interpret something I say negatively, they take it. Even if I said something like "I think you're great," they'd just say I was only pretending to be nice and STILL believe I was mean. There's nothing to be done about it so I don't try. To avoid misunderstanding, you have to be open to the fact that you can't know people's motives so, unless they give you reason to think otherwise, why not assume the best? It's much less stressful. At least that's what I think, for what it's worth.

And while this may seem off-topic, it's not, because it addresses the post about Felder. I assume Felder is doing the right thing until I have reason not to. How does it benefit you to agonize over his motives when you can never know them?


I'm a huge fan of his if you didn't know.
Case in point: I could interpret this as being snarky because of course I know you're a fan, or I could shrug if off and say I know you didn't mean it to sound that way because you're a nice guy. One causes stress, one doesn't. I choose the latter. :)

[WalshFan88]

Case in point: I could interpret this as being snarky because of course I know you're a fan, or I could shrug if off and say I know you didn't mean it to sound that way because you're a nice guy. One causes stress, one doesn't. I choose the latter. :)

I promise I wasn't being snarky. :( I just didn't know if you knew I was a huge fan or not. I know you know that I'm a fan but he's #2 on my list (right after Joe). I really didn't know if you knew how much I liked his music/playing. :)

And I know I shouldn't second-guess everything and I try not to but sometimes my mind just wanders off and focuses way too hard on that stuff. It's worse when I'm bored or already depressed. Then I can only think negative thoughts and my mind is flooded with negativity. It's something I struggle with daily. I try to keep my mind occupied with other things otherwise when I'm bored or sad, this ball of negativity just floods my mind and thoughts and one negative thought leads to another and before I know it, I'm profoundly depressed and then I become very unhappy and start to question my life and get very down. It's landed me in the hospital twice already. :( I was born a hyper-sensitive person and I also have a paranoid streak in me in that I wonder about what people say and do, especially when someone says something to me I will stress myself out wondering if they were serious or joking or if it was meant to be hurtful or not. It's a huge stress in my life that I can't seem to get rid of.

My sensitivity is just a HUGE problem for me. It prevents me from doing a lot of things or living a normal life. But no matter how hard I try, I can't make it go away. That's why I only leave the house to go guitar shopping, to play at a jam or gig, or go to concerts. The occasional vacation but not too often as I have SEVERE social anxiety and get very panicky around lots of people. Concerts I do okay with once the music starts in because it distracts me. Same with playing onstage. Playing guitar is the one thing I'm confident about, so onstage I'm very confident and not nervous but the second I leave the stage I want to be gone and out of sight. But I don't go to Walmart or anything like that. Even waiting in the Doctors Office waiting room with people stresses me out. One day it was packed and by the time they got me back to a room and took my Blood Pressure, it was 180/100 and I had worked myself up so much. My sensitivity, paranoia, and social phobia/shyness is a huge problem for me. It paralyzes me to the point where I pretty much have no life. No matter how hard I try, I just can't make it go away. So I try to do the best I can.

[whitcap]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oIH8bNsRpU

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8eRgHhhtIU

[sodascouts]

Topkat inspired me to find this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NbvCqafANs

The picture quality isn't there but you can hear him do "Take it Easy" pretty well.

[sodascouts]

This one is much better quality! Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS7QVocjtdw

[Topkat]

Thanks Soda. I never saw those before. Great:thumbsup:

[sodascouts]

Don on the Red Carpet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhGaps9ZBvs&noredirect=1

[sodascouts]

At the Corvette funfest (cute story here):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsGEM3Bh62U&feature=youtube_gdata

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5B683mUPcs

[WalshFan88]

Two REALLY good quality videos of Don:

Already Gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwnXjl4C5E

One Of These Nights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjLBf_HQXc0

I prefer Don singing Glenn songs than Henley songs. I loved the Already Gone video both guitar and vocals. The One Of These Nights wasn't as good IMO. But the guitar playing in it is great. I just prefer Felder singing songs in Glenn's range rather than trying to play those high Henley songs. That said, I really wish he'd come to Illinois so I could see one of his shows. He's a guitar god and I really admire him.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUpAnEvY3KQ

I really need to get to a Felder show.... He's still playing great as ever!

[sodascouts]

Thanks for posting that, Austin, although I much prefer him on songs he had a hand in, like Already Gone.

You know, it would be interesting to hear him do Visions live - wonder why he doesn't? Yeah, it's dated - and yeah, it's not the best song ever - but it's his only lead with the Eagles and it's certainly not terrible. It seems odd to omit it, yet do Take It Easy and PEF. I bet if he messed around with it a bit, he could make it sound less dated. It would be fun for the audience to hear such a rarity. As far as I know, it's never been performed live.

At any rate, I know you would enjoy his live show - and I hope you get to see him one day.

[WalshFan88]

Yeah Visions would be a good one.

And I know I would be different than most but I would just go to hear him play. He's a blast to watch even though he's no Glenn Frey or Don Henley vocally - I just want to see and hear him play up close and all of that. I never got the pleasure of seeing him and Joe play together in the Eagles - something I really wish I could have seen.

I also like his version of Already Gone a lot - probably my favorite of the songs he does singing-wise.

[sodascouts]

Speaking of Felder videos, going through some old Google alerts, I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxZznjxHTCk

[sodascouts]

In this very technical video, Felder tests out two different microphones to see which he likes best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8KHYU77tEw&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1

[WalshFan88]

Nice! Really liked the mic demo.

Also, I just googled "Google Alerts" and signed up for them. I've been wondering what people mean when they talk about them and finally figured it out. :lol: I'm not good with it though. Like for instance, there is the politician Joe Walsh and the musician Joe Walsh. How do I only select the Joe I want? LOL. I care nothing about the former. :D

[sodascouts]

You can add additional keywords, "joe walsh" and "eagles" as opposed to just "Joe Walsh." They're great! Unfortunately, I don't have time to check them as much as I should. The more members that sign up for them and report the results on The Border, the better!

[WalshFan88]

You can add additional keywords, "joe walsh" and "eagles" as opposed to just "Joe Walsh." They're great! Unfortunately, I don't have time to check them as much as I should. The more members that sign up for them and report the results on The Border, the better!

Ah ok! Makes sense now. I didn't realize you could do multiple quotes. I put one in for each band member as well as some guitar-related ones.

I'm hoping there might be an interview with Don coming up soon because this week is the NAMM show which is like the music products announcement convention and so artists show up for interviews, signings, try out products, etc. Felder was there last year and did an interview with Gibson which was cool. I hope they'll do it again but I think the only reason they did it last year because they came out with those two signature guitars for Don. I wish it was open to public so I could go because I'd go in a heartbeat but it is only for dealers, companies (product makers), and signed artists.

[WalshFan88]

A couple cool videos I stumbled upon. Nothing too major but still worth posting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wr71AoyngA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6aKOOjq6so

[sodascouts]

Thanks!

[WalshFan88]

Don's interview with Guitar Shop. Love the gear talk at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT31Ttu1RBw

[Tiffanny Twisted]

thanks for the post

[Topkat]

That was a great interview with Don. He looks fantastic too!
Thanks for posting!:thumbsup:

[Ive always been a dreamer]

That was an enjoyable interview. Thanks Austin.

[WalshFan88]

You're welcome! :)

[WalshFan88]

A tour of Don Felder's gear!

http://www.musicradar.com/video/don-felders-guitars-and-live-gear-aCWG6EcnLgTms

Even though it's not on YouTube, it is a video.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcL4MkpJQ4

Don showing how to play Hotel Cali.

[zeldabjr]

Oh...no problem Don...looks easy!:rockguitar::lie:

It really is fascinating listening to him talk about the different parts, and keys and all this stuff I never think of... and love hearing each of his and Joe's parts separately...really cool...can't imagine writing something like that...genius...makes me wish I could play the guitar!

ok....probably a stupid question...but ...in the first part of this video there is what looks like some sort of a clamp thing on the guitar neck...what is that?....

[WalshFan88]

ok....probably a stupid question...but ...in the first part of this video there is what looks like some sort of a clamp thing on the guitar neck...what is that?....

That's a capo. Allows you to play the same chords in a song but have the key change. So essentially, the Hotel intro is an E minor chord, but "clamped" at the 7th fret makes it sound like it's a B minor chord.

[sodascouts]

Another video interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7k8WOJyUc

[Topkat]

Soda,Thanks For posting that interview. That girl looks like she was about to jump Felders bones! Ya think she was a little excited???
Don looks fabulous too!

[EasyFeeling]

A short clip from the KLOS soundcheck last night... Luke and Don playing Life In The Fast Lane :-) Too bad the video stops when they are starting the play the interesting guitar part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_mTXtEaBOY

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5qefaC3tc

Speaking of the KLOS show, here is Don doing HC with Luke playing the ending triads with him! Very cool.

[Topkat]

Don does a pretty nice vocal on this HC, & his guitar work is spot on , as usual. His back up band does a pretty good job on the music, but the one thing I am seriously missing here is the BACK UP HARMONY VOCALS!!! Did any of those guys even open their mouth?????? :band:

Aside from that....great job, Felder...Still adore him!
Who is Luke???

[Freypower]

Don does a pretty nice vocal on this HC, & his guitar work is spot on , as usual. His back up band does a pretty good job on the music, but the one thing I am seriously missing here is the BACK UP HARMONY VOCALS!!! Did any of those guys even open their mouth?????? :band:

Aside from that....great job, Felder...Still adore him!
Who is Luke???

My guess is Steve Lukather?

It is probably best that Felder doesn't try to replicate the Eagles' harmony vocals.

[EasyFeeling]

You guessed right, FP... almost everyone calls him Luke. He was VERY happy to do Joe's part at the end of the song. :rockguitar:

[Topkat]

My guess is Steve Lukather?

It is probably best that Felder doesn't try to replicate the Eagles' harmony vocals.

I wouldn't expect Eagles back up harmony, but Steve Lukather sings, doesn't he? The song just seem like it's missing something!..Even a little back up would be nice in there.

[WalshFan88]

I liked the video as it was. I think it's a good thing Felder still plays it. He really does shine on it. But of course, it'd be even "shinier" if Joe was beside him in concert. That said, Steve Lukather did an amazing job and is a great guitarist. Really funny guy too - much like Joe.

[sodascouts]

Felder promotes ASCAP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGTiDITf9WQ

[WalshFan88]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2AyJMEEtt4

[WalshFan88]

Don F playing HC at a St. Jude benefit.

Note the misname on the video title, LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDLzaofvjc

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRMoDR0Mv8

[RebeccaLovesEagles]

Awesome video Walshfan. I like the Tommy Shaw one and lol the messed up title. the box of rock on was pretty cool too. It reminded me of the Documentary. People popping out of road boxes :hilarious:

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnSixhmUWo

Peter Frampton and Don Felder doing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps". When Don plays his amazing out of this world solo at the end, Peter starts clapping. He amazes me.

[SilverMoon]

Very cool! Great performance! Thanks for posting the video, WalshFan88!

[Topkat]

WOW, Loved that! Thanks for posting. I knew these 2 would sound great together! Now I have to see this show!!

I may still see the NY show next week if I can still get tix. otherwise it's off to Red Rocks, CO.

[SilverMoon]

Don and Peter Frampton performing in Windsor, Canada
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jB6CbS5zR0

[WalshFan88]

All of the Felder/Frampton videos so far on YT:

HC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VI1iCq-JHg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMB3_Qe0BO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHY-V6FFTX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FADxkTMM4FU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVmgESvltBg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j3QthJq9A8

Pride and Joy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnEQ9hFaTto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnEQ9hFaTto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z0r7mRmOLM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z0r7mRmOLM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9I5N5yvsBw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9I5N5yvsBw)

While My Guitar Gently Weeps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnSixhmUWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnSixhmUWo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jB6CbS5zR0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jB6CbS5zR0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJ3j-gW6e4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJ3j-gW6e4)

[SilverMoon]

Wow, how many videos, Austin! Thanks for posting! Don is amazing!!! It looks like they’re all having fun.

[Topkat]

Thanks for posting all those video Austin....Couldn't wait to get home to watch them!!! :thumbsup:

Loved them! Like reliving the show! You can tell Frampton was stoked playing with Don...They were really great together!

All 3 songs...INCREDIBLE:headbang::guitar:::headbang:::: ::thud:

It was a night of some really great music!

[Topkat]

Look at this gem I found on YouTube...What concert is this from? I wanna see it....Turn to Stone...Felder & Walsh YUMMMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlkfYZv6liQ

[WalshFan88]

Awesome duel on that one!

[sodascouts]

Seattle 1976. FANTASTIC.

[Troubadour]

Great stuff!

[Topkat]

Is there a bootleg of that concert? Looks like a great show!:eyebrow:

[SilverMoon]

Look at this gem I found on YouTube...What concert is this from? I wanna see it....Turn to Stone...Felder & Walsh YUMMMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlkfYZv6liQ

Don is such an incredible guitarist! :rockguitar: And he looks so hot in that video! :heart:

Here’s the link to the full concert:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTUzNjE1MzQw.html

[Topkat]

Wow, thanks SM....Looks like this is what I will be watching tonight!!!

All I can say is that was ONE HOT GUITAR JAM!!!:guitar::guitar::faint::faint::woah:

[RebeccaLovesEagles]

I love watching dueling guitars they are great together

[Topkat]

SM, Thanks for posting the link to that entire concert. I watched it last night TWICE...yeah the whole 90 minutes of it!
All I can say is WOW.:yay::yay::yay:..That was some show! They were all great, but Felder & Walsh were just unbelievable! Glenn also was on fire!

I think we need to bring that link over to the Eagles thread too, so others can watch it!

[WalshFan88]

Awesome video of Don with John Stamos and Mike Love (Beach Boys)... I remember John when he was on Full House...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTdsXNq2EPw

[sodascouts]

Great find!

[SilverMoon]

Great video, Austin!

Here’s another video from the same event. Don is doing “Pride and Joy”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNhsozrkoyM

[sodascouts]

Great quality!

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82z-nFtLlCk

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don posted this on Facebook. It's a video of him, Sonny Landreth, and Peter Frampton from the tour this past summer. Enjoy!

http://www.frequency.com/video/don-felder-sonny-landreth-peter-frampton/127395196/-/5-1369

[SilverMoon]

Don posted this on Facebook. It's a video of him, Sonny Landreth, and Peter Frampton from the tour this past summer. Enjoy!

http://www.frequency.com/video/don-felder-sonny-landreth-peter-frampton/127395196/-/5-1369
Great performance! Thanks for posting, VA!

[UndertheWire]

Here are a couple of videos from a recent private party in Hawaii :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Ksn_8aS40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jHKRVVfVY

[sodascouts]

Thanks! How cool to have an Eagle play your party!

[shunlvswx]

Don Felder just posted this video on his facebook about the 60th Anniversary of the stratocaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8VjLxzeD7Y#t=27

[sodascouts]

Thanks for posting that, shun! I'm going to move it to the video thread, if you don't mind.

ETA: Done.

[SilverMoon]

Don Felder just posted this video on his facebook about the 60th Anniversary of the stratocaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8VjLxzeD7Y#t=27

Thank you for posting the video, Shun!

[webvan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82z-nFtLlCk

Good stuff, not terribly "artistic" but he's enjoying it and it seems genuine when he says he likes to see happy faces, no one should be blamed for that.

I'd like to see Glenn Frey's face watching that though, hehe...I can hear him from here deriding Felder as being cheap, or worse ! One quote of his that's stuck to my mind over the years is when he was telling a journalist that Felder had branched off into real estate and how pathetic he thought that was...it must have been in the late 80s or early 90s.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-4aAGW_Vs

[ktdids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-4aAGW_Vs

It's funny that in this interview Felder doesn't get on my nerves, whereas the one where he's talking up his Hotel California corporate show, he just triggers all those "insincere" warning bells in my head, and I wish he would just stop talking!

[WalshFan88]

I don't see any problem at all with the corporate show video. As far as what Glenn Frey would say about it, I couldn't care less. The man (DF) is as genuine as they come and is still in it for the love of music. I really don't understand the Felder bashing. I think Don's live shows are great and he is not as bad of a singer as people make him out to be, either.

[sodascouts]

I enjoyed the live Felder show I saw a few years ago. I wish he would do more closer to where I am in the South. I'd love to hear "Wash Away" live. At least we can watch live vids in this thread if there aren't any shows nearby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF5u0wwndz8

Webvan, what interview is the source of that "quote"? I'm not familiar with it.

[webvan]

It's funny that in this interview Felder doesn't get on my nerves, whereas the one where he's talking up his Hotel California corporate show, he just triggers all those "insincere" warning bells in my head, and I wish he would just stop talking!

Yes, a very good listen, he's a natural talker and obviously less stressed out than in HOTE...

By "artistic" I was referring to the concept of playing/organizing corporate events, but at the end of the day a show is a show and he does seem to enjoy doing them so more power to him. Frey/Henley certainly didn't put music/art first with the 1994 business setup...

[UndertheWire]

That's a pretty slick commercial for his corporate show. It looks much bigger and sounds a lot better than the amateur video clips that show up on youtube (the amateur clips of the Eagles tour doesn't do them justice, either).

I don't see why Glenn Frey would be sniffy about anyone doing corporate gigs as he's been doing them himself for a long while and corporate gigs are all about playing familar songs.

When did Felder start doing cororate gigs? He seemed slightly disparaging of the idea in his book.

I can also see why other musicians (and fans) might wonder why he chose to go into real estate rather than put his efforts into making more music - not that it's unusual for a musician or an actor to take up a different career in their thirties. Maybe it's more unusual is to pick up your musical career again.

[webvan]

I think he says in his book that it was to avoid going crazy that he went back to school and got his qualification to work in real estate ;-) I suppose it was a way for him to stay around his family and keep himself busy. Surely he could have done some session work in L.A. too if he didn't want to go on the road...

[sodascouts]

Could anyone actually provide a source for Glenn criticizing Felder doing corporate gigs or getting into real estate? It doesn't have to be the one Webvan mentions; it can be any interview at any time. I'd just like to see an instance of him doing it before I comment on it.

[webvan]

If you reread my post, GF's reaction to DF's corporate gigs that was me imagining what it would be like ;-) As for the reference to real estate I'm posivite that it's something I read, when I'm not sure but it has to be somewhere. I remember a long Eagles feature in a Guitar Magazine from 1994 but that's probaby not where I read it since they were working together again so GF would probably have kept that comment to himself...

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I just did a web search and didn't find any reference to the real estate comment. Of course, since every newspaper has real estate ads on every page, there were a lot of results to sort through.

In the many interviews, past and present, that I've read (I have most on my hard drive for reference), I've been impressed with how Glenn hasn't given into temptation and made disparaging comments about Felder. He generally avoids subjects that could even lead to one. There's been a few comments from him, but I'm surprised he'd let loose with something like that, so if you find that reference, Webvan, I'd surely like to read it.

[sodascouts]

Agreed, VA.

Now back to the videos - I miss Victim of Love in Eagles sets, so I think it's cool that Felder does it live still. Have you guys noticed he changed the first lyrics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRct_NIoK4

(Sorry for the poor quality but there's not that many versions on YouTube to choose from)

[MaryCalifornia]

Here is a link to a video of Don from a show this morning. Is it me or does he sing, "I heard a shimmering light?" I don't know much about Foreigner or Styx, but their singers sound really good, especially the guy from Styx. I didn't see this video in the other threads for Felder news today.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3150309152001/foreigner-styx-and-don-felder-rock-on-fox-amp-friends/#sp=show-clips

[sodascouts]

Thanks!

Yeah, Felder made a little mistake there, it happens to the best of 'em.

[SilverMoon]

Great performance by everyone! :applause:

[SilverMoon]

I don't see any problem at all with the corporate show video. As far as what Glenn Frey would say about it, I couldn't care less. The man (DF) is as genuine as they come and is still in it for the love of music. I really don't understand the Felder bashing. I think Don's live shows are great and he is not as bad of a singer as people make him out to be, either.

Well said, Austin! I totally agree!

[Brooke]

I thought they all sounded great! Should be a fun tour for them all!

[shunlvswx]

Here's a link of Don singing two songs on the Arsenio Hall show last night. He was looking good and sounding good.

http://www.arseniohall.com/video/

[SilverMoon]

The videos of Don performing “Hotel California” and “You Don’t Have Me” on The Arsenio Hall Show are also on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfyd3QTyr-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvVj8puy88o

[sodascouts]

Full version of "You Can't Have Me"! Cool!

[chaim]

He still looks great and that smile will always make me feel good. However, and I know I will be slaughtered for saying this, I don't like how he plays his own solo in Hotel California anymore. He has even changed certain notes along the way. Musicians will know what I'm talking about when I say that I hate all those E - D sharp pull-off's that used to be E - D's. Maybe he's thinking of a harmonic E minor scale, but the song isn't in the harmonic E minor - not even during the E minor chord. But most of all, they just sound bad to my ears. Like he's playing it wrong.
The whole solo sounds a bit "interpreted" and nervous these days as opposed to the beautiful and smooth piece of music that it is on the record.

But that's the only musical complaint about the guy that I have. I sure am glad that he's still out there doing what he's so great at. Plus nobody in the rock world smiles like Don.

[MaryCalifornia]

WalshFan88/Austin, are you around? Any thoughts about this? I don't know about music, but I will listen and see if I can hear the difference.

Agree that Felder's smile is luminous. Also, I love his speaking voice.

Edit: Yeah, I can tell the difference. To my uneducated ear, I guess I would describe it as "cheating" - it's like a little smoother or something, like he's glossing over some of the cooler parts. Anyway, I guess that's his prerogative. He sure looks and sounds good.

p.s. I did not know that Arsenio Hall is still on TV :shrug:

[WalshFan88]

He still looks great and that smile will always make me feel good. However, and I know I will be slaughtered for saying this, I don't like how he plays his own solo in Hotel California anymore. He has even changed certain notes along the way. Musicians will know what I'm talking about when I say that I hate all those E - D sharp pull-off's that used to be E - D's. Maybe he's thinking of a harmonic E minor scale, but the song isn't in the harmonic E minor - not even during the E minor chord. But most of all, they just sound bad to my ears. Like he's playing it wrong.
The whole solo sounds a bit "interpreted" and nervous these days as opposed to the beautiful and smooth piece of music that it is on the record.

But that's the only musical complaint about the guy that I have. I sure am glad that he's still out there doing what he's so great at. Plus nobody in the rock world smiles like Don.

It's slightly different for sure - a lot of the inflections are changed. Keep in mind it's in Am now and not Bm. And he originally wrote it in Em. Confusing lol.

[chaim]

It's slightly different for sure - a lot of the inflections are changed. Keep in mind it's in Am now and not Bm. And he originally wrote it in Em. Confusing lol.

Yeah, the new key changed it even more, but he already did those "D sharp instead of natural D" pull-off's decades ago. They always tortured my ears.:doh: But I do know that I'm the only one on earth who is irritated by them.:headbang:

Incidentally, those notes I mentioned are of course a D and a C sharp in the key of A minor, but I prefer to use the note names of the original key, because it's easier to compare them and since, unless my memory fails me, he changed those pull off's decades ago.

[WalshFan88]

Yeah, the new key changed it even more, but he already did those "D sharp instead of natural D" pull-off's decades ago. They always tortured my ears.:doh: But I do know that I'm the only one on earth who is irritated by them.:headbang:

Incidentally, those notes I mentioned are of course a D and a C sharp in the key of A minor, but I prefer to use the note names of the original key, because it's easier to compare them and since, unless my memory fails me, he changed those pull off's decades ago.

Yeah he's been doing it like that for a long time...

[Brooke]

So, this makes me wonder if they are changed when the Eagles do them? (Stuart or Joe)

[sodascouts]

I would be really surprised if anything was changed for the Eagles' live version (except, of course, for the acoustic HFO one). In fact, maybe Felder changed it for solo versions because when he played it with the Eagles, he had to do it note-for-note the same as the recording (as Stu has to do it now, I imagine). Perhaps my ears just weren't attuned enough to notice it, though!

[WalshFan88]

There are a few slight changes now with Stu.

Namely he does a lot of pinch harmonics throughout the solo that Felder never did but that comes from Stu's fingerstyle technique. You can hear them has "light squeals" at the end of notes.

[sodascouts]

Interesting. Thanks, Austin.

[shunlvswx]

I saw a video from Guitar World from a few years ago when Don did a lesson on how to play Hotel California. He said in that video that he changed the key so it would be good with his voice and friendlier guitar key because you have to remember. HC was changed to suit Don H's voice. Now he changed it to suit his voice.

ETA:

Here's the video I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcL4MkpJQ4

[chaim]

I saw a video from Guitar World from a few years ago when Don did a lesson on how to play Hotel California. He said in that video that he changed the key so it would be good with his voice and friendlier guitar key because you have to remember. HC was changed to suit Don H's voice. Now he changed it to suit his voice.

ETA:

Here's the video I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcL4MkpJQ4

I remember this video. However, my complaint didn't concern the key change necessarily. A lot of the solo could still be played like he did on the record. To my ears he has changed it too much and there's no flow anymore. It sounds more like a combination of licks, and he's also over-interpreting them all IMO.

[Thirsty&Hot]

Hotel California - Don Felder, John Stamos & Mike Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTdsXNq2EPw&app=desktop


as cool as this is in theory...my favorite part is the guitar solo...which is just not the same without Joe countering him on stage...
and as Glenn said in HotE "You just can't argue with Don Henley's vocal..." (or something to that effect)...which was actually in reference to Victim of Love if I remember correctly...but it fits here IMO as well.

don't mean to be the negative poster in a Felder thread..(you can smack me if you want :steviesmack:) but just thought maybe some of you would appreciate this anyway! (if it's not already posted...I didn't notice it)

[SilverMoon]

I was rewatching the last videos posted in this thread and I have to say that Don gave a great performance on the Arsenio Hall show. He’s such an incredible guitarist. I love “You Don’t Have Me” from his second album, I think it’s a great rocker. Personally, I like Don’s singing voice. He now sings lead and also plays Joe’s solo on “Hotel California” and I think he does a good job. Don and Joe were one of the greatest guitar duos in music history. It's a shame they don't play together anymore. Joe is great, but Steuart Smith plays Don’s guitar parts without soul. There’s no chemistry between Joe and Steuart, in my opinion.

[SilverMoon]

Here’s the audio of Don’s live cover version of Stevie Wonder’s “Superstition.” It’s from his 2009 concert in Windsor, Canada. From about 2:30/2:40 to 3:45 Don plays a really cool solo that is not on the original version of the song.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ll_apuR1lg

[sodascouts]

I was at that show! It was great.

[SilverMoon]

Wow! Lucky you!

[sodascouts]

Not only that - I got to meet him afterwards and he autographed my Airborne LP. He also took a photo with me but I look really ugly in it, so I have no intention of posting it, lol. I definitely felt very lucky!

I think his new shows will be even better. Like you, I'm eager to hear songs like "You Can't Have Me" and especially my favorite "Wash Away" live.

[SilverMoon]

I love “Wash Away” too. How cool that you got to meet Don! You’re lucky indeed!

[webvan]

Thanks for the Superstition link, love that song and Don's solo is interesting, although it's a bit hard to "break through" that mean groove! Hope I'll be able to see him live one day...

[SilverMoon]

I love Stevie Wonder, and I especially love his ‘70s music. Don’s solo on his cover of “Superstition” is really fitting. I think that Don is one of the most creative and underrated guitarists in music.

[Wasted]

I love Stevie Wonder, and I especially love his ‘70s music. Don’s solo on his cover of “Superstition” is really fitting. I think that Don is one of the most creative and underrated guitarists in music.

Not to mention one of the hottest! He still looks great, even after all those years.

[SilverMoon]

Not to mention one of the hottest! He still looks great, even after all those years.
He definitely is the hottest guitarist ever! ;)

[SilverMoon]

A great video of Don, Crosby, Stills & Nash and John Mayer jamming together on “Wooden Ships” at the Light Up the Blues benefit concert:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utsw3-UqHbI

[sodascouts]

Nice!

[WalshFan88]

This is so cool!

Don onstage with Foreigner (as well as Tommy/JY from Styx) doing Foreigner's "Hot Blooded". Don's solo was badassery at it's finest. The look on Mick Jones' face says it all!

I saw this on a guitar forum. One of my favorite get-up-and-go rock tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hzUkdCZ-xk

[MaryCalifornia]

Excellent badassery, thanks WF!! It looks like they're having so much fun. I like it when Tommy Shaw sings. Mmmmm....Tommy Shaw.....

[SilverMoon]

This is so cool!

Don onstage with Foreigner (as well as Tommy/JY from Styx) doing Foreigner's "Hot Blooded". Don's solo was badassery at it's finest. The look on Mick Jones' face says it all!

I saw this on a guitar forum. One of my favorite get-up-and-go rock tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hzUkdCZ-xk
Very cool! Thanks for posting.

[sodascouts]

Man, I wish Don had come out to play with them at my show. So cool. Thanks for posting!

[UndertheWire]

Apologies if this has already been post (a quick search didn't show a match)...

Back in June, Don Felder along with Styx and Foreigner, played at the annual Wal-Mart Associates convention (thought based on reports, only two members of Styx turned up).

Hotel California:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swASYiPz4wA

Seven Bridges Road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4jHRsepCnQ

Witchy Woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOwJjtvIaxk

Those Shoes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVNYfOVcSzk

Heartache Tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cr2YVvPHTg

Life in the Fast Lane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKCBp_3LWeQ

Lady (Styx with Don Felder)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralVve-dCn0

There may be others, or different recordings.

[SilverMoon]

On September 21, in honor of Don’s birthday, Jack Tempchin posted on Facebook a video of “Hotel California” from the 1995 concert in Christchurch, NZ and wrote:

Happy Birthday Don Felder! 'Fingers' was born this day in 1947...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2cpUOdPDbw

https://www.facebook.com/JackTempchin/posts/10153239134794816

[SilverMoon]

And yesterday Jack Tempchin posted this video of Don on Facebook with the caption:

Don Felder does a fine job on 'Peaceful Easy Feeling' at City Winery NYC this past summer!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZ2n6HvVm0

https://www.facebook.com/JackTempchin/posts/10153243215704816

[chaim]

Man, what a tasteful solo he improvises on Witchy Woman. I'm glad he didn't learn Glenn's solo, because then hundreds of people on YouTube would think that it's Don's solo even though he wasn't in the band at that point!
He really has a great sound and his playing is very, very...tasty.

[SilverMoon]

Here's a video of Don performing Van Morrison’s “Gloria” with Huey Lewis, Bon Jovi’s Tico Torres, and actors Bill Murray and Damian Lewis at the Alfred Dunhill Gala Dinner in Scotland on October 4. Don does a solo from 1:30 to 2:10. Bill Murray sings lead on the song. He's so funny, especially when he “dances” during Don's guitar solo!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJtldTZMjC0

[UndertheWire]

This is a good, new interview with Don Felder and worth watching even if you're not a big fan of his. The questions are good and even when they get to the book (about 20 minutes in), there's no trashing. He's asked about changes in key on choruses, how the vocal harmonies are stacked and lots on guitars and other equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWtyIQGeye8

[webvan]

Thanks for sharing, very interesting indeed. I was surprised when the interviewer mentioned that Gibson sponsored them to invite Felder over. Makes sense though and he did give them a great interview and certainly great workshops and show ;-)

[MaryCalifornia]

Thanks, UTW, I'm looking forward to watching it. I have to wait for these people in my house to go to bed so I can relax!!

[Funk 50]

even when they get to the book (about 20 minutes in), there's no trashing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWtyIQGeye8

Thanks for posting the link UndertheWire.

It looks like Don told the interviewer (Mitch Gallagher) that he's not going to talk about the bad stuff. I think the only Eagle he mentioned by name was Bernie.

I hope this signals the end to hostilities on Felder's part. Didn't Henley say in the History Of The Eagles documentary that Mr. Felder continues to be a source of problems for the Eagles, over a decade after they got rid of him?

This could be the first step to Hell Freezing Over for a second time and a future reconciliation.

Maybe the band reaching out to Bernie and Randy has had an effect or maybe just the passing of time has brought some clarity but even if the reconciliation is just a private affair, I'm very pleased.

I'm pleased even if there is no reconciliation. Thanks Don Felder! :xoxo:

[webvan]

He was indeed pretty mellow and had nothing bad to say about anyone... he did poke fun at Frey's stinginess perhaps when he told him how much he'd paid the Les Paul ;-)

[UndertheWire]

A lot of credit goes to the interviewer who was more interesting in asking about how things were done rather than personalities.

[sodascouts]

I would be delighted if this signaled a new era of positivity!

[Funk 50]

It's a cynical thought but with Don being so dependent on Hotel California to provide his worth and identity within the media, he'll be hoping, the upcoming 40th Anniversary of the album will provide a fruitful harvest for him in 2016.

So there is a logical reason why Don would consciously decide that from now on he'll publicly only say positive things about those wonderful chums he used to have, Irving, Don H and Glenn.

He wouldn't want to inadvertently scupper any plans the Eagles may have to celebrate 40 years since the release of Hotel California.

[DJ]

[quote=Funk 50;292075]It's a cynical thought but with Don being so dependent on Hotel California to provide his worth and identity within the media, he'll be hoping, the upcoming 40th Anniversary of the album will provide a fruitful harvest for him in 2016.

So there is a logical reason why Don would consciously decide that from now on he'll publicly only say positive things about those wonderful chums he used to have, Irving, Don H and Glenn.

He wouldn't want to inadvertently scupper any plans the Eagles may have to celebrate 40 years since the release of Hotel California

Very Good Point Funk 50!

[chaim]

The Sweetwater interview with Don is great. I just wish he'd acknowledge Glenn as a guitar player even just once without someone dragging it out of him, like with the straight question "Did you play the I Can't Tell You Why solo on the album?". The interviewer mentions the harmony guitars on One Of These Nights. IMO it would've been nice if Don had mentioned that it's Glenn doing them on the album. Instead he starts to talk about how "I played this and I played that guitar on Hotel California".

By the way, wasn't it Glenn in the book who wanted the new introduction to HC and not Don H?

[Freypower]

The Sweetwater interview with Don is great. I just wish he'd acknowledge Glenn as a guitar player even just once without someone dragging it out of him, like with the straight question "Did you play the I Can't Tell You Why solo on the album?". The interviewer mentions the harmony guitars on One Of These Nights. IMO it would've been nice if Don had mentioned that it's Glenn doing them on the album. Instead he starts to talk about how "I played this and I played that guitar on Hotel California".

And I do not agree with him in that only people who've become successful have the ability to reach people emotionally with music or other arts. Not everyone who's talented becomes successful, because they may not meet the right people, or have the drive to push it further. There's also luck involved. Or maybe I misunderstood him there.

By the way, wasn't in Glenn in the book who wanted the new introduction to HC and not Don H?

Page 258.

People who keep hoping in their wildest dreams for a reconcilation should consider that Don Felder will never acknowledge that Glenn Frey has even a modicum of talent. You say you wish he'd talk about Glenn's guiitar work; it's the singing he utterly refuses to even mention.

[chaim]

Page 258.

People who keep hoping in their wildest dreams for a reconcilation should consider that Don Felder will never acknowledge that Glenn Frey has even a modicum of talent. You say you wish he'd talk about Glenn's guiitar work; it's the singing he utterly refuses to even mention.

Yes, the singing. Of course. But sometimes I'm a little sick of this "Don Felder and Joe Walsh the guitar players" stuff. Bernie is mentioned too, of course. But Glenn is not, unless it's Glenn himself or Henley. I realize that Glenn may not be in the same league as those other guys, but he has recorded enough memorable and essential guitar parts for the Eagles to be mentioned once in a while. When the interviewer asks about the harmonies on OOTD, Don doesn't mention that Glenn did (most if not all of) them in the studio. Instead he says that they had himself, Glenn and Bernie to produce stuff like that live. But then he explains how he did all those guitars on HC and he had to have a double-neck to reproduce them live. No one has any doubt that Don Felder is a fantastic guitar player. Glenn too has said this many times.
Don F seems such a lovable guy. I just wish that he'd downplay his own role just a little bit sometimes, because the listeners/readers who are not Eagles diehards may get the picture that Don F was the main composer and arranger in the band.

[Freypower]

I disagree that Felder is 'lovable' but I will go no further than that.

As a Glenn fan I suppose it doesn't really bother me at this stage that his guitar playing is ignored; I'm so used to that now that I shrug it off. As I said, it is when his singing is ignored or never mentioned that I get annoyed, and Felder, who these days happily sings songs like PEF & TIE on which he didn't even play, does not refer to Glenn's vocal abliities ONCE in his book. Even in HOTE he had to get in the crack during the VOL segment about how Henley was a better singer than everyone else in the band (and yes, I am well aware that this statement does seem to reflect many opinons, if not mine).

In any case regarding the song OOTN I thought Glenn's main contribution was the piano part. He plays guitar on it now, but I wasn't aware he did on the record.

The fact is a lot of people who sided with Felder decided to take at face value Felder's views on Glenn as a musician & a person & when they saw HOTE their prejudices were confirmed. They never tried to see it from Glenn's perspective. All they saw was how Felder had been 'wronged'.

[chaim]

These days Don F doesn't mention Glenn at all as a guitar player, but I remember that interview from the OOTN era, where he talked about OOTN and said "after Glenn does the introduction", referring to guitars. It was probably twenty years ago when I saw that interview, but I remember that well. And Glenn had done harmonies before, like in the Out Of Control solo.
A couple of years ago I asked Don about this on his Q&A page, because I suspected that Glenn played all those harmonized guitars in Too Many Hands too. I asked about those two songs. Don's answer was that in those days he and Glenn tended to do the harmony parts. Now, if at this point Don even mentions Glenn in this context, Glenn must have played quite a lot of those!
The harmony parts in OOTN were overdubbed later anyway, so whoever played them played something else on the basic tracks. On the basic tracks Don and Bernie were on rhythm guitars and Glenn on piano unless I'm very much mistaken. After that Glenn added harmonized guitars. I'm not saying that Don didn't play some of those. Maybe he did. But before I hear otherwise I suspect that they're all Glenn.
As for Too Many Hands, there's not a rhythm guitar part in the song that screams "Glenn!" to me. On the other hand it's very unlikely that Bernie played any of the harmonies. So I've always suspected that Glenn must be doing the harmonized lead guitars in the choruses. Don's response supported my assumption that Glenn was heavily involved with all of that.

[UndertheWire]

You'll hate me for this, but Felder does mention Glenn's voice twice in his book and both are derogatory. For the "The Girl From Yesterday" he repeats a comment he attributes to Henley that "any country singer could sing it better" and then later he writes that "I love to Watch a Woman Dance" wasn't at all right for Glenn's R&B voice.

I believe it's just Felder getting revenge for the years in which he was "browbeaten into believing" his own voice was "mediocre at best".

[Freypower]

You'll hate me for this, but Felder does mention Glenn's voice twice in his book and both are derogatory. For the "The Girl From Yesterday" he repeats a comment he attributes to Henley that "any country singer could sing it better" and then later he writes that "I love to Watch a Woman Dance" wasn't at all right for Glenn's R&B voice.

I believe it's just Felder getting revenge for the years in which he was "browbeaten into believing" his own voice was "mediocre at best".

I could find no reference to either ILTWAWD or the LROOE album in Heaven & Hell.

The reference to TGFY is on page 252. Yeah, the song was so bad that it was still being performed in December 1995 when I saw them, unlike the much vaunted Get Over It.

He makes another reference that TTITL was no good without Randy singing it on page 308.

[WalshFan88]

I definitely consider Glenn a great musician and amazing rhythm guitar player, IMO he's the Keef of the guitar part of the band and holds that up very well. And I love the few solos he's done on WW, AG, and ICTYW, my favorite being ICTYW.

As far as him as a person, I don't know him but I do probably side more with Felder as far as the way he was treated and his portrayal of events on HOTE.

But in no way do I believe by any stretch that Glenn was a subpar player or singer in general or in comparison to his bandmates. Sure Henley is my favorite singer (of any band I might add), but I love TIE, PEF, AG, ATTIG, NKIT, HT and think he does a great job on those songs. I also believe he should have not been so hard on himself as a singer in comparison to Henley.

[UndertheWire]

The ILTWAWD reference is in Chapter 18 where he's describing their attempts to record in 1999. Sorry, I don't have page numbers.

Sorry, i'm going OT and I'm feeling bad about it. The Don in the recent video interview is a lot more likeable than the one in the book. I guess he's just happier and more fulfilled.

[chaim]

I definitely consider Glenn a great musician and amazing rhythm guitar player, IMO he's the Keef of the guitar part of the band and holds that up very well. And I love the few solos he's done on WW, AG, and ICTYW, my favorite being ICTYW.

As far as him as a person, I don't know him but I do probably side more with Felder as far as the way he was treated and his portrayal of events on HOTE.

But in no way do I believe by any stretch that Glenn was a subpar player or singer in general or in comparison to his bandmates. Sure Henley is my favorite singer (of any band I might add), but I love TIE, PEF, AG, ATTIG, NKIT, HT and think he does a great job on those songs. I also believe he should have not been so hard on himself as a singer in comparison to Henley.

I, on the other hand, tend to get too angry when I see/hear Don F talking only about his own contributions in interviews. It's not Don's fault after all that interviewers never discuss guitar stuff with Glenn!

[Freypower]

The ILTWAWD reference is in Chapter 18 where he's describing their attempts to record in 1999. Sorry, I don't have page numbers.

Sorry, i'm going OT and I'm feeling bad about it. The Don in the recent video interview is a lot more likeable than the one in the book. I guess he's just happier and more fulfilled.

Page 293. Gripe, gripe, snipe, snipe.

It was Glenn who vetoed the reunion at that time, not Don Henley. Not that facts ever mattered to Felder.

I will stop now as well. What's the point.

[WalshFan88]

I, on the other hand, tend to get too angry when I see/hear Don F talking only about his own contributions in interviews. It's not Don's fault after all that interviewers never discuss guitar stuff with Glenn!

I disagree, of course.

I feel that it is a bit unfair to Felder... They are interviewed to talk mostly about themselves.

Back on topic, I loved the Sweetwater video. Very informative for a guitarist like myself.

[Freypower]

I will say one more thing. You can talk about yourself without completely distorting or minimising or ignoring the work of other people you worked with who contributed just as much if not more than you did.

[SilverMoon]

This is a good, new interview with Don Felder and worth watching even if you're not a big fan of his. The questions are good and even when they get to the book (about 20 minutes in), there's no trashing. He's asked about changes in key on choruses, how the vocal harmonies are stacked and lots on guitars and other equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWtyIQGeye8
That’s an interesting and informative interview.

[SilverMoon]

People who keep hoping in their wildest dreams for a reconcilation should consider that Don Felder will never acknowledge that Glenn Frey has even a modicum of talent. You say you wish he'd talk about Glenn's guiitar work; it's the singing he utterly refuses to even mention.


As a Glenn fan I suppose it doesn't really bother me at this stage that his guitar playing is ignored; I'm so used to that now that I shrug it off. As I said, it is when his singing is ignored or never mentioned that I get annoyed, and Felder, who these days happily sings songs like PEF & TIE on which he didn't even play, does not refer to Glenn's vocal abliities ONCE in his book. Even in HOTE he had to get in the crack during the VOL segment about how Henley was a better singer than everyone else in the band (and yes, I am well aware that this statement does seem to reflect many opinons, if not mine).
Do the other Eagles ever praise Glenn’s singing? As far as I know, Don Henley never does. Timothy never does either.

[MaryCalifornia]

Funny, SM, I never thought of that. I don't remember any of them praising the others' singing! Or musicianship! I think its just a given that they are what they are - they are all epic singers in a very successful band. It's like, obvious. The only comment I can think of is Glenn's in HOTE re: We had Don Henley. It's funny to think about - Joe: "OMG, Timothy, you have such a good singing voice." "So do you, Joe! And you're a good guitar player!" "Thanks!"

[Funk 50]

Do the other Eagles ever praise Glenn’s singing? As far as I know, Don Henley never does. Timothy never does either.

Not complimenting his singing but when Long Road Out Of Eden was released, Henley singled out special praise for Glenn's line in, It's Your World Now. "Be part of something good, leave something good behind." He may even have said it was the best line on the album. More's the pity that they've never performed it live.

Henley also praised Joe's guitar playing, something that I've never heard Felder do. :scowl:

I'd love to know what Felder thought of the idea to add Joe to their ranks in 1975. Having 4 lead singers is one thing but 3 lead guitarists in an M.O.R., harmony vocal, mainstream, country rock band is really pushing it. It all kinda makes sense when you hear Try And Love Again, though.

Sorry I haven't got a Felder vid to enjoy.:shrug:

[Freypower]

Do the other Eagles ever praise Glenn’s singing? As far as I know, Don Henley never does. Timothy never does either.

If you wish to put in such blunt terms, no, I suppose they don't, and they don't really need to do so.

Glenn, on the other had, Mr Ego, was the one who said 'I sang less because we had Don Henley'.

My point was that Felder wrote a book about the Eagles in which he refused to mention either Glenn's songs or his lead vocals. He pretended they didn't exist. He then made his big statement in HOTE that Henley was the best singer in the band as if that was a given & there could be no argument with it.

He is enttiled to his opinion, of course. But it's a bit sad that he could work with someone for so long and apparently believe for all that time that his colleague was a talentless hack.... while taking the money. If nothing else, despite his intense dislike of Glenn, isn't there something called professional courtesy which should mean you can acknowledge that someone is talented even if you hate them? Glenn, on the other hand, went out of his way to praise Felder's guitar work even after the band broke up.

See my post above about ignoring or minimising the work of your colleagues. Now I have said as much on this subject as I wish to say.

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ1tDjcH4nU

[Jonny Come Lately]

I'd love to know what Felder thought of the idea to add Joe to their ranks in 1975. Having 4 lead singers is one thing but 3 lead guitarists in an M.O.R., harmony vocal, mainstream, country rock band is really pushing it. It all kinda makes sense when you hear Try And Love Again, though.

I can see what you're trying but it's not entirely accurate to say that they were adding another lead guitarist, they were replacing Bernie (who played lead guitar on several songs on One Of These Nights) with Joe, which leads on to my second point which is that they ceased to be a country rock band when Joe joined, and had been shifting away from this direction as from On The Border onwards. Out of all the band members past and present, Bernie was the member who was most 'country rock', Joe the least so.

In any case, I don't hear any country on Hotel California, I've sometimes seen NKIT described as a country rock song but I don't hear it, The Last Resort features pedal steel but that alone doesn't make a song 'country' (I don't consider Joe's Second Hand Store, for instance, to fit this category either) and Try And Love Again I see as a rock ballad, more in the vein of Is It True? than Peaceful Easy Feeling. I certainly don't hear it on The Long Run either, an album made up almost entirely of rockers and R&B-type songs - if that had been the first Eagles album I'd heard I certainly wouldn't have though they were once a country rock band.

[SilverMoon]

Henley also praised Joe's guitar playing, something that I've never heard Felder do. :scowl:
Don Felder has said that Joe Walsh is one of the greatest guitarists alive. I may be wrong, but I don’t remember Joe ever praising Don Felder's guitar playing.

[SilverMoon]

If you wish to put in such blunt terms, no, I suppose they don't, and they don't really need to do so.

Glenn, on the other had, Mr Ego, was the one who said 'I sang less because we had Don Henley'.

My point was that Felder wrote a book about the Eagles in which he refused to mention either Glenn's songs or his lead vocals. He pretended they didn't exist. He then made his big statement in HOTE that Henley was the best singer in the band as if that was a given & there could be no argument with it.

He is enttiled to his opinion, of course. But it's a bit sad that he could work with someone for so long and apparently believe for all that time that his colleague was a talentless hack.... while taking the money. If nothing else, despite his intense dislike of Glenn, isn't there something called professional courtesy which should mean you can acknowledge that someone is talented even if you hate them? Glenn, on the other hand, went out of his way to praise Felder's guitar work even after the band broke up.

See my post above about ignoring or minimising the work of your colleagues. Now I have said as much on this subject as I wish to say.
He wasn’t "taking the money." He was EARNING it.

[Funk 50]

Can't remember the first time I saw this but I spent many years after trying to discover the Jackson Browne track that included the phrase "sweet tenderness".

I encountered quite a few great JB tracks before I found Your Bright Baby Blues.

The Eagles being brilliant without singing a note. Felder particularly great on free and easy, acoustic slide. I'm not 100% sure but it could be Davis Lindley, rather than Bernie on pedal Steel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HBYyMbl5lo

[SilverMoon]

Great performance by Jackson Browne and Don Felder! I love that song!

[WalshFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L9_SuxikKM

[AlreadyGone95]

A youtuber that I'm subscribed to has uploaded this video of Don Felder playing Tequila Sunrise in June 2014. It's audio only.
https://youtu.be/-NbUJQn0poo

[chaim]

Is Don lip-synching here or is there someone else singing the lead vocal part with him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ef-m3jL5qs

There are a few places where we still hear the note when he has already moved away from the mike.

At 2:39 mark, when we hear "what kind of love have you got?" his mouth seems to be doing something else. And the word "got" lingers when he has obviously stopped singing. At 3:15 mark he moves away from the mike, but it doesn't change the volume of the word "heart".

But then there are moments where it looks like he sings live, because his phrasing seems spontaneous - there would be an awful lot to remember if it was pre-recorded! The "got" at 3:30 mark for example looks real.

His singing sounds very compressed. Perhaps that's why we hear his voice as loudly even when he has moved away from the mike?

EDIT:

I have learned since writing this post that Auto-Tune can maintain the volume of a note and increase the sustain.

[armus2112]

He must be lip-syncing.

[MaryCalifornia]

It seems like most live acts these days (except the Eagles) have a backing track that they sing over - so, it's probably both. He is singing, and there is a track of him singing as well. The usual excuse is "I'm dancing strenuously for 2 1/2 hours, I need to bolster my voice, but I do sing live." Even on "live" shows like SNL they do this, and think Superbowl halftime performances - and yes, they do memorize the backing track down to the note.

[chaim]

Yes, maybe he does both, although I must admit I only hear one vocal. I compared these three performances, which according to the description are from different dates. I went through them line by line, and the lead vocal parts are definitely identical - phrasing and all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVM4MtY3Ppk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkOw4DWsPnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzcBmlZANlw

There's are 100% identical too in terms of the lead vocal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9M4LAQcOmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6JGvcSVHgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPen2w5PB3Y

I've been listening to some of Don's live performances lately and been surprised how great his singing sounds. This would certainly explain it! Of course it is possible to sing things exactly the same way all the time, but...

EDIT:

Here at 1:05 mark, at the end of the first chorus he says something barely audible, so his mic is definitely coming out of the PA, although not as loud as the pre-recorded vocal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8pJNQADIiY

I guess the pre-recorded vocal track was autotuned. Not that lip-synching or duetting with a pre-recorded vocal is a big issue in Don's case, since it's not his voice that brings people to his concerts anyway. And having said all this, I do like his voice.

[UndertheWire]

I've seen speculation/assertions that he uses autotune in the live performances which might allow notes to be sustained after he moves away from the microphone and keep it at a consistent volume throughout. However, I'm willing to believe he's singing along with playback if it's identical from one show to the next. The vocals have a strange processed quality, so I'm assuming there's a lot of autotune whichever method he's using live.

[armus2112]

From listening to those Youtube links from chaim, it's so obvious he is using autotune, and in my opinion, it sounds silly, especially Witchy Woman. At times, his voice sounds obviously robotic.

[chaim]

I was talking about lip syncing earlier. Yesterday I was again watching some solo performances from Felder - Take It Easy, Peaceful Easy Feeling etc. All of them looked so fake that again I compared a few performances of the same songs and they were identical vocalwise. Here he misses the word "'cause" in both performances during the sentence "'Cause I'm already standing on the ground".

At 0:55 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZ2n6HvVm0

At 1:03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjUj8qF47xA

Again I'm not saying that Felder lip syncing is a terrible thing, as he's not a singer but a guitarist. But I think he should at least be honest about it because occasionally he has criticized the Eagles with Steuart, and because so many people - including many journalists - make him out to be such a "real thing" compared to the Eagles. And people who keep bashing Henley & Frey and praising Felder's vocal performances on YouTube should at least know that their hero is not singing live.

If Felder was a bit more humble and kinder towards his ex-bandmates and didn't pretend to be the only "real thing", I wouldn't even be making posts such as this. Plus he has bashed people who lip sync in concerts...:)

[UndertheWire]

I hear the "cos" * in both performances. I don't know if he lip-synchs or uses auto-tune but I don't like the tone of voice.

Od that he calls Peaceful, Easy Feeling a sad song. Jack Tempchin talks about it as knowing he's fine even if he doesn't get the girl ("because I'm already standing on the ground") and that she "can't take me anyway I don't already know how to go".

* I'm not sure if you know that the "cause" in "because" is pronounced "cos" and not like "cause" when it's a single word. I'd never thought about that before.

[Annoying Twit]

I think it's a pity in a way as the songs on Road to Forever are fine, and the instrumental performances and arrangements are good.

If Don paired up with a singer with a really good distinctive voice, not necessitating autotune, then I think the album would be much better.

(Please note the word distinctive. Too many times when people team up with singers they end up with someone with a generic voice that sounds like too many other voices. I'm suggesting that Don's album would be better with someone who sings technically as well as Don Henley, but also has a distinctive recognisable voice like Don Henley too.)

[Funk 50]

I'm suggesting that Don's album would be better with someone who sings technically as well as Don Henley, but also has a distinctive recognisable voice like Don Henley too.)

Wouldn't 90% of all albums released be better with Don Henley doing the vocals? :D

I think Felder's solo recording career is an indulgence rather than an aspiration.

It's great to see Joe roping Joe Vitale, Waddy Wachtel, Chad Cromwell et al into his band. It demonstrates that he still aspires to something that he thinks he can't reach with regular musicians. :p

[UndertheWire]

Wouldn't 90% of all albums released be better with Don Henley doing the vocals? :D

I think Felder's solo recording career is an indulgence rather than an aspiration.

It's great to see Joe roping Joe Vitale, Waddy Wachtel, Chad Cromwell et al into his band. It demonstrates that he still aspires to something that he thinks he can't reach with regular musicians. :p
I know you're kidding, but Henley's voice is one I like in small doses.

I do wonder how the collaboration with Max Carl and Paul Carack would have worked out. I assume, Felder would have just played the guitar. Even Timothy might have struggled to get a lead vocal.

Joe Vitale, Waddy Watchel and Chad Cromwell aren't regular musicians?

The difference between band members and sidemen is quite strange. The sidemen are probably more skilled than any of the artists they support but few people know who they are. Would Felder have been happier if he'd continued to be a sideman?

[sodascouts]

Well-spotted, UTW.

Felder's main gripe has always seemed to me to be that he was a sideman who craved the spotlight and resented the fact that he didn't get it. He would have been dissatisfied in any band where he was faced with a comparative lack of recognition.

[chaim]

I hear the "cos" * in both performances. I don't know if he lip-synchs or uses auto-tune but I don't like the tone of voice.

Od that he calls Peaceful, Easy Feeling a sad song. Jack Tempchin talks about it as knowing he's fine even if he doesn't get the girl ("because I'm already standing on the ground") and that she "can't take me anyway I don't already know how to go".

* I'm not sure if you know that the "cause" in "because" is pronounced "cos" and not like "cause" when it's a single word. I'd never thought about that before.

I didn't know that. :-) But my point was that when we hear "'cos" (however it's pronounced) Don hasn't opened his mouth yet. This happens in both performances. Seems that he didn't remember that the sentence starts with "'cos". But the tape did!

[UndertheWire]

I've tried playing both youtube videos simultaneously and while I think there are differences in the lead guitar, the lead vocal track sounds identical. I can't believe a singer as mediocre as Don could achieve such note-for-note consistency at shows 8 months apart, so I agree it's a pre-recorded (and auto-tuned) track.

Here's a recording from 4 years ago where you can't hear Don above the audience and then one of his band members joins in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUpAnEvY3KQ

This one from 2013, also seems to be live - Don speaks to the audience - and his band are singing with him. It starts around 4 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRct_NIoK4

This one is from the cruise in Feb 2015 and sounds like the recorded track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnRiweAt0XM

In summary, I think Don used to sing live but started using pre-recorded tracks around 2014.

[chaim]

He even changes the lyric "I wanna sleep with you in the desert tonight" in the 2013 performance. You can tell by the bass player's reaction that the change wasn't planned. So yeah, I agree that he used to sing live. I don't understand why he doesn't anymore since he can sing just fine for a guitarist who's not really a singer. In a live situation I'd rather hear a real performance where perhaps every note isn't in tune than a pre-recorded track where you can hear Autotune on every note.

But like I said before, it's not a big deal to me that he seems to lip sync every song today. What bothers me is that he gets away with it while people constantly bash Frey & Henley about all kinds of things.

[WalshFan88]

I can see now the similarity in the two videos. I still don't hear backing tracks. Autotune, maybe.. It doesn't have that robot thing that I associate with an autotuned voice. It's a very smooth sound. But there is a definite similarity in the two videos posted by chaim, I'll admit. I don't know why he uses it because I think he's a fine singer. I have my bones to pick with him as of late but I gotta give credit when due. I think people try to compare him to the other guys too much sometimes.

I feel calling Felder a mediocre singer is a bit extreme. He has a softer voice without a lot of power. It's very smooth without the rasp someone like Henley has or the twang in Glenn's voice or the gravely nature of Joe's voice. I feel the only thing it's similar to is TBS but still unique. As I've said, he's not as good as Don or Glenn, but I feel he's a better singer than some and even the band gave him credit for. It's just a lot different than the other guys, that's all.

[Freypower]

I can see now the similarity in the two videos. I still don't hear backing tracks. Autotune, maybe.. It doesn't have that robot thing that I associate with an autotuned voice. It's a very smooth sound. But there is a definite similarity in the two videos posted by chaim, I'll admit. I don't know why he uses it because I think he's a fine singer. I have my bones to pick with him as of late but I gotta give credit when due. I think people try to compare him to the other guys too much sometimes.

I feel calling Felder a mediocre singer is a bit extreme. He has a softer voice without a lot of power. It's very smooth without the rasp someone like Henley has or the twang in Glenn's voice or the gravely nature of Joe's voice. I feel the only thing it's similar to is TBS but still unique. As I've said, he's not as good as Don or Glenn, but I feel he's a better singer than some and even the band gave him credit for. It's just a lot different than the other guys, that's all.

I don't really want to continue the discussion on vocals in this thread when there is an existing thread, but a) you are being unfair to Tim; b) to call Felder's voice 'unique' is extravagant praise which I would have thought most people would not claim it deserves. I also wouldn't call his voice 'smooth'. He has a rasp, like Henley, but he doesn't use it in the same way. It was Glenn who made the blunt statement that Felder is 'not a singer' and I concur with that.

[sodascouts]

Well, preferences are subjective. If people like Felder's voice, I don't begrudge it. I personally don't think it's awful or anything. I just think it's not that exceptional. However, that's just my opinion.

[WalshFan88]

I don't really want to continue the discussion on vocals in this thread when there is an existing thread, but a) you are being unfair to Tim; b) to call Felder's voice 'unique' is extravagant praise which I would have thought most people would not claim it deserves. I also wouldn't call his voice 'smooth'. He has a rasp, like Henley, but he doesn't use it in the same way. It was Glenn who made the blunt statement that Felder is 'not a singer' and I concur with that.

I thought this was the thread I was supposed to come to... I can't win I guess.

I don't think I'm being unfair to Tim, I think you are being unfair to DF.

[Freypower]

I thought this was the thread I was supposed to come to... I can't win I guess.

I don't think I'm being unfair to Tim, I think you are being unfair to DF.

To be fair, they overlap. I was nitpicking.

Soda is right. Preferences are subjective.

[WalshFan88]

Soda is right. Preferences are subjective.

Agreed.

[chaim]

I still want to make it perfectly clear that personally I like Felder's voice, and my opinion of him as a singer has nothing to do with the fact that I believe he has used a prerecorded vocal track for some time. I have posted only a couple of examples here, but I've noticed the same thing on every song I've checked. IMO Felder could sing live, although I don't think he could nail those high "wails" in Witchy Woman.

But this is what bothers me:

People tend to see (and mention) every negative thing about the members who are the bosses in a band and ignore them in the other members. There are tons of people on YouTube who keep bashing Henley & Frey for all kinds of things from personal to musical, but ignore all the "lip sync" comments concerning Felder and the similarities between different versions. It's the same thing with KISS. For example, it's a widely discussed issue that Simmons and Stanley might have been more or less bald for a long time without some "help". They are the bosses in KISS, so it's ok to discuss that. On the other hand, Frehley seems to be bald too. There's a video where you can see he has no hair left on top, but everyone ignores this. I have mentioned it a coupe of times on a KISS forum and posted the video, but there have been no comments while everyone always talks about Simmons's and Stanley's lack of hair. Frehley has never been a leader in KISS so it's nice to see him as an underdog. And underdogs get away with even the same things the bosses don't.

In other words, if people bash Henley & Frey for all kinds of things, they should be able to admit that Felder could be using a prerecorded vocal track.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

As I said in another thread, I don't think Felder is a bad singer, but I also think his voice is better suited for backup and harmony rather than lead vocals. I don't think there is anything particularly unique about his voice or delivery that sets him apart from the average singer.

And I will say, if I go to a concert, I go to hear/see a 'live' real-time performance both vocally and instrumentally. Now, that's not to say that there should never be anything pre-recorded in the show. However, if someone is promoted as a frontman or solo artist, then I feel they should be capable of performing most of the songs live without lots of backing tracks, auto-tuning, or other trickery. If they can't be the performer they are representing themself to be, then, to me, they are selling their audience short.

[UndertheWire]

I don't think this has been posted before. It doesn't have anything new, but it's fairly comprehensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIC_liaqeA

[sodascouts]

Thanks!

[MaryCalifornia]

So here is a fresh perspective on Don Felder. My 14-year-old son plays guitar and has been learning HC. He doesn't know anything about Felder's history with the band except that he isn't in it anymore. My son wanted to show me Felder's HC tutorial on Youtube, so we started watching it and after a minute or so of Felder talking my son said, "He's so nice..."

I thought to myself, "Son, if you only knew what is said about him!" :hilarious:

[WalshFan88]

So here is a fresh perspective on Don Felder. My 14-year-old son plays guitar and has been learning HC. He doesn't know anything about Felder's history with the band except that he isn't in it anymore. My son wanted to show me Felder's HC tutorial on Youtube, so we started watching it and after a minute or so of Felder talking my son said, "He's so nice..."

I thought to myself, "Son, if you only knew what is said about him!" :hilarious:

Felder is a very nice guy. A bit full of himself at times, but I think it comes with the fact he had a big hand in one of the biggest rock anthems of all time, plus being a killer player.

[WS82Classics]

For those interested in watching him take a critical drubbing on the matter of his vocal talents(or lack thereof) in real time, a totally amusing clip from a couple of years back of infamous radio & TV talker Don Imus savaging Don Felder's performance of "Hotel California" on Fox's morning show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pWGe1I3E

The main action lasts from 0:15--4:44.

[chaim]

For those interested in watching him take a critical drubbing on the matter of his vocal talents(or lack thereof) in real time, a totally amusing clip from a couple of years back of infamous radio & TV talker Don Imus savaging Don Felder's performance of "Hotel California" on Fox's morning show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pWGe1I3E

The main action lasts from 0:15--4:44.

I watched it, but I have no clue what the point was. They could just say they don't like Felder's singing instead of going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. Why do something like that on TV? :roll:

[UndertheWire]

I know this is mean, but after getting excited about a JD Souther performance of Heartache Tonight, I thought I'd listen to one by Don Felder. I wasn't expecting to like it but I was surprised at just how bad (and hammy) Don and his band were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GZD5VviiI

[travlnman2]

Dons version of HC with Tommy shaw is really great though. I wish Felder would use his natural voice and not heavily auto tune it. I really do enjoy that version. Felder has a natural bass tone to his voice. But the auto tune makes sound to tight and robotic. Props to Tommy Shaw who is a natural singer.

[Delilah]

Unfortunately, that Heartache Tonight video is blocked here. I wish Don F wouldn't use auto-tune either but the man is pushing 70 now and I guess his voice isn't as strong as it used to be. He's not just singing ballads, he's taking on some rockin' songs. Kudos to him for going out and still doing his thing.:thumbsup:

[chaim]

He plays HT three semitones lower, so it sounds a bit different. But of course, he could never sing the chorus - let alone the bridge - in the original key.

[Funk 50]

I know this is mean, but after getting excited about a JD Souther performance of Heartache Tonight, I thought I'd listen to one by Don Felder. I wasn't expecting to like it but I was surprised at just how bad (and hammy) Don and his band were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GZD5VviiI

Gotto agree underthewire, move over Michael Buble! It's almost cabaret. Who would've thought, JD Souther out rocks Don Felder... and that inane grin, it may be fine in interviews but when your singing about heartache?

The audience seemed to enjoy it though!

[Annoying Twit]

Youtube is useful. I managed to listen to Airborne yesterday. I think it's a good album, but it doesn't really stand out as excellent. However, comparing Eagles albums to solo albums by Don H/Glenn H you can hear what Don F contributed to the Eagles sound. Even though Joe has a rocky background, he has a different style from much of what appeared on Eagles albums IMHO. My favourite song on it (after one listen) is 'Never Surrender'. IMHO the Allmusic review that implies that song is a second rate 'Life In The Fast Lane' is unfair.

[WalshFan88]

I love Don's voice and I love his version of HT. I also thought the Imus thing was OTT. I find Don's grin fine, as I think it's genuine as he's a pleasant guy.

[chaim]

Don playing Hotel California with Kiss minus Paul Stanley.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1263427093720904&id=172269936169964

[Delilah]

Thanks for that Chaim. Don's voice sounds tired but he looks good! It's cool he gets to perform with so many well-known musicians.

[chaim]

Thanks for that Chaim. Don's voice sounds tired but he looks good! It's cool he gets to perform with so many well-known musicians.

I loved watching Don play with Kiss, because I love both bands. 8-)

[Funk 50]

There's some Vegas footage of Felder and Styx on YouTube.
Here's Take It Easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1SZgRHl34M

[Delilah]

Don sounds kind of different singing Take It Easy here; his voice is less husky or something. You can tell he still enjoys performing. Thanks, F50!

[Topkat]

I wouldn't judge Don's vocals from this Vegas footage, as I think they are really poor quality audio. I have seen Don several times the past 3 years & vocally he has come a long way, He sounds much better than even when he was an Eagle. Ever since his album came out a few years ago & he toured as a solo act, he has really picked up in the vocals. There's no back up bunch of vocalists so he's stepped up his game.

If you have the chance to see him, do go. It's well worth it.
These videos don't do him justice.

[Delilah]

I understand cell phone audio is not the best. In the other clips from the Vegas show he sounds more like himself. It was just TIE where I thought he sounded off.

If he ever comes to my area, I will definitely try to see him. It would be thrilling to see the guy who wrote the music for Hotel California actually perform the Eagles' most famous, iconic song.

[UndertheWire]

Don has recorded a video for a string manufacturer. Naturally, the best parts are when he plays his guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWWci8ud93g

and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_qP27CJWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWWci8ud93g)

[chaim]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is that fantastic riff he plays at 2:24-3:00?

[Funk 50]

I guessed it was something from Road To Forever;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snUA3jKSqT8

[chaim]

I guessed it was something from Road To Forever;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snUA3jKSqT8

Thanks. Road To Forever was my first thought, but I've heard the album once and the riff didn't ring a bell. I'm shocked that this killer riff didn't catch my ear first time around. With the intro drum beat the riff has a Fuckin' Up (Neil Young) vibe. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRmBUEwtZg)

EDIT:

Just listened to the studio version and I noticed why it didn't grab me. I like the riff more when Don plays a one-note version of it lower (on the A-string) with distortion. It's not like that on the record.

[Delilah]

Don has recorded a video for a string manufacturer. Naturally, the best parts are when he plays his guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWWci8ud93g

and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWWci8ud93g


I really liked that UtW, thanks. Are the links supposed to be to the same video? I wasn't sure if that was intentional.

[UndertheWire]

I really liked that UtW, thanks. Are the links supposed to be to the same video? I wasn't sure if that was intentional.
Oops. I've fixed the second link in my original post but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_qP27CJWA

[Delilah]

Thanks!

[NightMistBlue]

Thank you for the Ernie Ball video, UtW! I didn't know the Eagles had a sponsorship from the company. I liked what DF had to say about his creative process too.

Holy Frampton, he plays a vocoder/talk box thingie!

[Dawn]

Oops. I've fixed the second link in my original post but here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_qP27CJWA

That was very interesting ... Thanks!

[chaim]

Gotta love how he managed to throw Hotel California in there, again. He wanted to demonstrate a minor 3rd bend and the HC solo happens to start with one. :mrgreen:

(Incidentally, it was cool that he didn't play HC in the first clip, but some more recent stuff.)

[NightMistBlue]

Mr. Felder tries out some Ernie Ball effects pedals. Spoiler alert: he likes them. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVXVf1PZ8M