And thank you for posting Soda! Though it makes me sad, it is good info to know.
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And thank you for posting Soda! Though it makes me sad, it is good info to know.
No problem, HB.
You know, one thing this article mentions that I didn't quote above - Azoff asked them about whether some particular Steely Dan material had been damaged and UMG was able to reassure him that it hadn't. However, he made no inquiries about the Eagles' and Don's material. That really astonishes me.
Here's the part regarding Azoff:
"The closest UMG came to a public imbroglio may have been in 2010, when, Aronson says, he was sent on an unusual business trip to Pennsylvania. He had been told by a UMG executive that one of the most powerful men in the music industry, Irving Azoff, was asking questions about the loss of Steely Dan masters in the fire. Azoff, the former chairman of MCA Inc., is now the chairman and chief executive of Azoff MSG Entertainment, a live entertainment conglomerate, as well as the “supermanager” chairman of Full Stop Management, whose roster of clients includes Steely Dan and the Eagles. A quarrel with Azoff was an unwelcome prospect. Luckily, the tapes he was concerned about, multitrack masters of Steely Dan’s first releases, turned out to have been moved to UMG’s Pennsylvania tape vault before the fire.
Azoff sent Elliot Scheiner, a celebrated record producer and mixer who had worked with Steely Dan, to confirm the tapes were intact. Aronson accompanied Scheiner to the Pennsylvania facility, the tapes were pulled, the matter was dropped. (Asked about this incident, both Azoff and Scheiner declined to comment.) In fact, UMG documents suggest that Steely Dan masters — different tapes than those sought by Azoff — were in Building 6197 when the fire hit. According to Aronson, these likely included certain album masters, as well as multitrack masters holding outtakes and unreleased material. “Those songs,” Aronson says, “will never be heard again.”
I mean. I have a 1980 concert on DVD, and it is a master, yes that is correct 1980 exists on video in my house. Houston 1980. Luckily that was not one of the vault tapes. Anyway, would the eagles release any of the stuff in their anyway??
Thanks for sharing this, Soda, I was about to post this myself. What a shame, especially since it appears there was no thorough inventory done so no one knows exactly what all was lost.
That being said, don’t the Eagles have their own vault? If so, then maybe they still have some master recordings. I also wonder if some of Glenn’s MCA material has been lost as well.
I noticed that as well; Azoff has a lot of clients whose recordings could have been lost. Maybe he wasn’t aware they were stored in that building but he did know about SD. At that point he may have had a specific reason to ask about Steely Dan’s recordings, like they were planning on re-issues or something.
I don’t believe something like that is considered a master, unless the concert recording was processed in a studio by engineers to optimize sound quality.
I remember reading about this before, but I had forgotten how massive the losses were. It's hard to believe that a company in charge of protecting such valuable property was so careless in securing it. I wonder if there were any lawsuits resulting from their gross negligence.
Ok. If the Eagles lost some of their masters, how were they able to put out Legacy, Hell Freezes Over and the 40th Anniversary box set of HC? These came out 10 years after that fire? They must had some extra masters somewhere. I'm very confused about what masters were lost.
I'm surprised they weren't any lawsuits. I haven't read or heard that they were getting sued.
I don’t think there have been lawsuits b/c, as indicated in the part of the article Soda posted, many artists are unaware of where their masters were being stored and that they were destroyed in the fire. At the time, it seems that the destruction of videotapes and film got the attention of the press and UMG played down the damage to the music recordings.
Some artists are posting on social media that they are now wondering if their “lost” masters were destroyed in the fire.
I’m confused about which masters were lost too. But if I’m not mistaken, HFO was mastered from a digital source, not analog.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...611-story.html
"Some of Aretha Franklin’s earliest recordings also are believed to be among those destroyed, along with outtakes and never-released recordings by hundreds, if not thousands, of musicians, among them Elton John, Cat Stevens, Nirvana, the Eagles, Aerosmith, Steely Dan, Ray Charles, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Soundgarden, Hole, Eminem, 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg."