This had to be so hard for Cindy Frey to do.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1F5241
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This had to be so hard for Cindy Frey to do.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1F5241
Filing the suit wasn't the difficult part, I imagine. This is so awful.
I had wondered about this. I had tried to push it out of my mind because the thought was so horrible but it appears my fears may have been justified.
Wow. Yeah, I know it had to be heartbreaking for her to do this. So sad.
I'd be interested in seeing the response from the hospital.
If Glenn's situation was anything like other people I've known with auto-immune disorders, sometimes you treat one thing and it makes the other thing worse. It's a real balancing act and sometimes, the body just says, "Enough."
I truly hope there was no negligence or malpractice involved. But if there was, then I hope every appropriate measure is taken to make sure this doesn't happen to someone else. I hope the doctor and hospital are held accountable.
It's a warning that we have to be our own best advocates for our health care.
I hope that the hospital did nothing wrong as it would make this situation even sadder knowing it was a mistake by the hospital. But if they did make a mistake I hope the appropriate respons is made in the future
Wow! And you would think that as wealthy as Glenn was that he would have had the very best advice and doctors for his issues. I'm sure he did, but I guess even the very best can make mistakes. How sad.
Wow - I am shocked. So sad to think of what poor Glenn and the family went through.
I really really really really hope Glenn wasn't neglected. I really don't want to think about that if they did, but if they did. I hope Cindy goes after everybody who is responsible for Glenn's death.
I'm really not surprised about this. I had a feeling she might sue.
On the other hand... the litigation culture in America is so pervasive that this course of action seems almost to be expected. But I suppose it isn't for me to judge. I'm an outsider & have no idea what occurred. I just assumed they knew about the side effects of the treatment. I thought they would have known that for years. The pain & mental anguish stuff I suppose was before he was placed in the coma. I had hoped that he hadn't suffered that much.
It makes everything seem even worse, and I mean everything.
How terribly sad. Even though I knew he would have been in pain, it hurts seeing it in print. What they must have gone thru. 😢
They had to know all the side effects for years before. There must be more to the story.
I can't say this really surprises me.. I've wondered if there was some malpractice involved for a while now. I still don't understand the need for the coma or why they couldn't bring him out of it. But I try not to think of him like that, it just makes me too sad. If there was any negligence on the part of the doctor or the hospital, I hope they are found accountable.
From what I read when they tried to bring him out of the coma he was unable to breathe.
I don't know enough about the case to have suspected malpractice and quite frankly I would rather not think about it further.
I think it's a shame that literally the day before the anniversary (in my case) this has happened. I wanted to try & remember Glenn in a positive way but the entire two years has just been a nightmare from that viewpoint. I suppose Mrs Frey has her reasons for doing this but I really would prefer not to hear about it.
2 year statute of limitations to file for suspected negligence
None of us wants this to be true, but I don't understand why we're talking about this like the family is asking politely for an investigation. They're filing a lawsuit.
You don't sue someone because you think it's a possibility that they might have been negligent, but you hope they weren't.
You sue because you have reason to believe they WERE negligent, and you want them to pay.
From what I read, when his pneumonia became so severe he had trouble breathing, they put Glenn in a drug induced coma and on a ventilator. The doctors tried to remove him from the ventilator but he could not breath well enough on his own. If I remember right, Bob said he recovered from a first bout of pneumonia but came down with a second case of it.
Wow, I feel so bad for the Frey family.
It is telling to me that one particular doctor who saw him only in Oct. And Nov. is involved. We know from Bob that he saw many doctors, and was in the hospital for a month and a half after this time. But she did not sue the doctors who were treating him when he passed away. It seems she feels the eventual outcome was due to the actions\inaction of this guy.
It's just such a terrible tragedy, and a horrible experience for her to revisit. I commend her for fighting for what she feels is right.
I would think she had much to deal with before this.
Prayers for the family.
My thoughts are with Cindy and the Frey family.
Glenn's multiple autoimmune conditions (RA and UC) and the medicine to treat them means that you are way more susceptible to bad infections.
I hope everything works out for them.
Some of the details revealed by Bob Seger had me wondering if the family would pursue legal action, but I thought it might have been against the drug company. Although getting pneumonia at least twice, when his medical team were aware he was immunocompromised, raised red flags with me as well.
I agree. That this lawsuit was filed at the last minute before the statute of limitations expires seems to indicate they did not consider other options viable. Glenn seemed to be someone who valued his privacy and his family is probably just as private. I’m sure this was undertaken with a lot of serious consideration, knowing that a lot of medical information may become a matter of public record. Hopefully the case will be settled, Cindy and the kids can avoid a long, drawn-out emotionally-draining legal battle, and Glenn’s privacy will remain intact. I wish that could have happened with Randy.
According to the article, the GI doc and the hospital are being sued.
I hope whatever the investigation reveals, that it helps give Cindy some peace and some closure. My prayers are certainly with her and the family.
I'm wondering if anyone knows...I don't remember...was Glenn transferred to a different hospital after November?
I’m not always well versed in the legal system but my thought was that maybe the family was waiting for answers for two years and they didn’t get any and they were left no choice. If the hospital and doctor can prove they did everything they were supposed to then the lawsuit is done. Apologies I didn’t mean to offend anyone.
It appears that so far, the treating doctor's medical license is still in good standing with the board of medical examiners in New York State. That could change though as the case progresses I suppose. In Massachusetts it is often commonplace to report a medical provider to the medical board first, and to carry on litigation after the provider is found guilty, but all states work independently.
Autoimmune diseases are very tricky. The doctors I work with( who are top notch) are often left scratching their heads. My patients are frustrated and left in tears and having one myself I can say first hand how much they suck.
Hopefully there wasn't any negligence. If there was, it's a good thing Cindy probably has an excellent legal team because a lot of these medications you see on TV to treat rheumatoid arthritis or ulcerative colitis will not only cause immunosuppression and make you more susceptible to hospital acquired pneumonia, but to other autoimmune illnesses as well, which can complicate the case even if the defendant is guilty. I am sure her legal team is probably composed of individuals who are licensed to practice both law and medicine in New York state and if the doctor in question did not perform preliminary tests prior to treating Glenn, they will immediately find this in discovery.
Poor Glenn. He didn't sign up for any of this.
*Edited
Hi Elizasong, you actually bring up a good point that there will be information uncovered during the process of discovery that the defendants have no choice but to provide. However I don’t believe Glenn’s family would invite unwanted publicity and risk his privacy unless there was a strong belief that negligence occurred. JMO. FWIW, I’m not offended.
Yes, I have been thinking about this all day too. I just hope poor Glenn didn't have to suffer because of any negligence.
It breaks my heart actually.
Am totally behind Glenn's family at this time. Hopefully there will be answers soon as to what actually happened.
From UCR:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/glenn...letter_4572276
More or less the same info. My Mum died in a very similar way - rheumatoid arthritis and ulcerative colitis plus pneumonia at the end. She was 67 too. The hospital gave us the runaround with our complaints till we gave up. Hope Cindy can stay strong to fight them.
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Yes, exactly. I know a little about medical malpractice (I'm a lawyer), although it's not an area I practice in. She wouldn't be going forward if she didn't have a reasonable ground to believe the doctor and hospital provided improper medical care. She is likely looking at years of litigation. It is very hard to prove a claim like this and I wish her the best of luck.
I do wonder, though, how this was leaked to the public. Does TMZ and the like go through the court clerk's website across the country hoping that something will be filed relating to a celebrity? How would they know?
I don't know how many times Glenn contracted pneumonia in his lifetime but I do know while making After Hours in late September he had been diagnosed with pneumonia and did not want to be hospitalized.
He talks about it here:
https://artofthesong.org/glenn-frey-...t-3-a-tribute/
Hi Groupie - TMZ (the Thirty Mile Zone aka LA filming area) has moles in the courts in LA and I now assume in NY as well. They ALWAYS get the info, eventually, and they are often the first to get it. (I'm a lawyer too and yes I read TMZ and yes I'm a member of an Eagles fan site LOL) They just grab anything with a famous person's name on it when it gets filed.
There must be some solid evidence of negligence here, because eventually the details of Glenn's illness and treatment will become public and who would want that? Nobody. Or, they filed just to preserve the right and will end up dropping it or quietly settling with no discovery, etc...
Think about Glenn's earning potential over the next 10 years - literally hundreds of millions of dollars gross, easily, if touring.
Found a little bit more info:
In the suit, filed Tuesday in New York Supreme Court, Cindy Frey names the Mount Sinai Hospital, Icahn School of Medicine as well as physician Steven Itzkowitz.
“At all times herein mentioned, the defendants each undertook and agreed to render medical care and treatment to Glenn Frey and did render certain care starting on October 19, 2015,” the suit reads.
Frey died on Jan. 18 in 2016 at age 67.
The suit alleges that the defendants “were negligent and careless in the services rendered or and on behalf of Glenn Frey.”
Among the alleged negligence: Failing to “promptly and properly render medical care; causing, permitting and allowing preventable injury and death; failing to promptly and properly treat ulcerative colitis and associated symptoms and diseases of the bowel; failing to promptly and properly assess the patient for respiratory issues; failing to promptly and properly diagnose and treat infection” and “failing to promptly and properly hospitalize the patient.”
“As a result of the foregoing acts of negligence, Glenn Frey was rendered sick, lame and disabled, suffered injuries, pain, mental anguish, was compelled to seek medical care and attention, incurred expenses thereof, and was permanently injured and disabled until the time of his death,” the suit reads."
Source: https://www.thewrap.com/glenn-freys-...rongful-death/
Edited to add:
She (Cindy Frey) charged that gastroenterologist Steven Itzkowitz botched the treatment of the musician’s ulcerative colitis between Oct. 19, 2015, and November 2015.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.3760795
Hi MC - it's nice to know there's another lawyer on here! (I feel the same way, LOL, lawyer by day, member of eagles fan site and reader of TMZ by night).
I thought about that too, that they filed this just to preserve the right, since it was filed 2 days before the statute of limitations expired.
I read the complaint (available to the public through NY courts website) and it doesn't give a lot of information, but complaints in New York never do. More details would come out in discovery, if it goes that far.
I often wondered if the family would pursue a lawsuit. At the time of Glenn's death I suspected something must have gone wrong and that someone had either diagnosed something incorrectly or treated something incorrectly. With all the new medications on the market for Autoimmune diseases, it's very scary. The Doctors are told to " push" new medications on patients for their disease. I know because I have 2 autoimmune diseases and have tried some of the newer medications with wicked side effects. I'm just glad I'm in a position to think clearly and not be so sick that I can't still speak for myself on how I prefer my treatment to go. Being in a hospital these days is scary business. You can go in with one ailment and end up contracting others! I feel for his family having to dredge up all this stuff again. I hope MC is correct in saying that Mrs. Frey might have filed to preserve the right and that everything will be settled quietly. I personally do not want to know the facts involved on how this man came to pass away.:weep:
Great to have lawyers on the border! I am not a lawyer but based on the details that have been made public it appears to me this all goes back to what did and did not happen during a specific timeframe: October 19, 2015 to some time in November 2015.