A thread to discuss Vince Gill.
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A thread to discuss Vince Gill.
i think it was an interesting strategy to have both Vince and Deacon in the band.
One thing I thought of: If Deacon found that it was too much to perform in front of such a massive crowd, then would Vince have taken over on some of the songs that Deacon was scheduled to sing. It would have created an interesting safety net if Vince was prepped.
I wasn't very familiar with his music before this, but have been sampling some of it. He's more country than average Eagles music, but he has the vocal chops and guitar ability to play a role in post-Glenn Eagles.
Personally I think it's good that they've added someone with real talent and a profile to Eagles. Which is what they did with Joe, of course. I'm not saying there is a real chance that his songwriting skills are part of what they were looking for. But, I think it's interesting to note that such skills exist.
I presume that Vince will be at the forthcoming show. I guess that no-one knows what lies in the future beyond that.
It would be interesting to hear a song like "Don't Let Our Love Start Slipping Away" at a future show. Though, again, while that's an interesting idea, I don't think it will happen.
EDIT: Having heard a few more songs, I think that 'Never Alone' would work well at an Eagles concert.
Vince acquitted himself beautifully on "I Can't Tell You Why" for the "Common Threads" album. So I never was worried.
The great thing about Vince is he's willing to do whatever he's asked to do. Sing? Sure. Play Felder's guitar licks? No problem. Backing vocals? Easy-peasy. Talk to the press? Charm the pants off them.
As I've said, he and Glenn were friends and Glenn may have even played in Vince's charity golf tourney he has in Nashville every year. It wouldn't surprise me. So, if they were going to continue and find someone to add to the lineup, to me, Vince was a natural choice. I know I'm repeating myself, but he really is a fantastic singer and songwriter, and his musicianship is peerless. One of the best pickers in popular music, and that's the opinion of his peers, including guys like Keith Richards. Plus, he loves and respects the Eagles' music.
It takes a lot of pressure off Deacon's shoulders and adds a good spirit, too. So I see it as a win-win, since this is the route they decided to take.
I've been a fan of Vince's music since 1994 when I was 14. I only seen him in concert once. So when I heard Vince was joining the Eagles, I was soo happy. Vince in my favorite band.
Vince will be at the show this Saturday and probably will be at Seattle and any other shows that will be announced.
In an interview he did with Billboard, here's what Vince said.
So unless Vince leaves(which I doubt) or they don't need him anymore, Vince will be with them for a while. I don't know what his status is, but I'm think he's with them for a while.Quote:
Right now these are just one-off shows, but if they decided to tour, would you be willing?
Are you kidding me? I'd be the first one on the bus. They probably don't take a bus, but I'll drive myself. I'll take my own car. You couldn't dream this up to get to go play in your favorite band – the most important American band in history.
He's probably going to split his time with his solo career and the Eagles like Don and Joe does.
I must become more familiar with 'Common Threads'.
I was shocked that Vince played a guitar solo on The Last Resort because I didn't think they gave him any solo since they had Steuart. They might give him more because Vince really shines when he does his guitar solo.
I also thought Vince sounded very good when he was harmonizing with Timothy and Don either when he's singing lead or harmonizing with them.
I loved that Don said Vince was one of the best singers and guitarist on the planet. I love hearing that from Don. For years, I always wanted Don and Vince sing with each other or be on the same stage. I got my wish when Vince was part of Don's album.
I doubt they will put any of Vince's songs in the show. They probably going to stay strictly Eagles song with the exception of Joe since he's been playing his solo songs in concert since he joined the Eagles.
I like Vince Gill and if he wants to sing and play Eagles songs with Deacon Frey, DH, TBS and JW that's great! I just wish they'd perform under their own names or create a new name.
I love Vince and he's another I grew up with. I've seen him twice in concert, once on my 12th birthday and the other was with his wife Amy Grant. Also, his dad actually used to live here in Columbus in my maternal grandparents old neighborhood. My grandparents moved out when I was about like 6 or 7, but I do remember my uncle taking me by Vince's dad's house while we were walking down the street and him waving at us, but I never met him personally at least that I remember. Some of my family did know him and even went to the funeral and met Vince. And of course my Grandpa requested we play Vince's "Go Rest High on the Mountain" at his own funeral, which we did. I cried so much during that song. Just love Vince's voice, his version of ICTYW, and always loved when he used to host the CMAs in the 90s. LOL :D
I also wondered too if maybe Timothy can't hit some of the high notes as much since it seemed like Vince did do some of the higher harmonies on the songs, including Randy's part in "Take it Easy". He did a great job blending with the guys and filling in.
Here's Vince with the guys over the years. Other than the picture from Classic West, their are no old pictures of Vince and Don together.
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Thanks Shun - look how young Vince is is that first picture. It looks like HFO period.
I think that was 1993 when Vince was doing the Common Thread album.
Thanks for the pics Shun!!! :D I don't think I've ever seen them till now (besides the Don one).
Also the still picture of Timothy in the studio in the HOTE documentary comes from that picture of him and Vince. They had just cropped Vince out.
As many of you know I am not a fan of this reunion but it was nice to see that Vince's t-shirt paid tribute to Glenn :heart: in stating 'In Memory of the Lone Arranger'
GAN - He wore the t-shirt saying that at the classic west? Gosh I missed that. I saw when he wore it to sing PEF after Glenn passed. Vince sure seems to be a very nice classy guy from everything I have read.
Shun - TY - saw that video.
I knew Vince Gill would be a great fit for the band. He's a true fan as well as a world-class musician, singer & songwriter. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of what passes for modern "country" music, but I do like to listen to great artists like Vince. Loved hearing him sing Take it to the Limit and I'm glad he didn't go for Randy's signature high flourish at the end of the song; I felt that he was doing honor and paying tribute to Randy. My heart wish is that Randy's health may improve enough that he can sit in, maybe play and who knows? Even sing a little, in a grand reunion show someday.
I do hope that this band stays together, does a limited tour to start with; cuts a new album. I was a little disappointed that Bernie was not with them, but then, even though he was great on the HOTE tour, and the guys seemed really pleased to have him with them, he seemed a little tense, as though he felt a little out of place. Maybe he'll join them from time to time, at least as an honored guest in a few shows.
I thought Deacon put on a fantastic performance too! Sure, he seemed a little nervous at first. Hell, it's his first big gig & it's only with the biggest American band ever! Not to mention, he had to know that literally millions of people will be watching those shows and comparing him to Glenn. His voice is deeper than Glenn's; he looks so much like Glenn but a lot like his mama too; he didn't come blazing out with Glenn's over-the-top joie de vivre, but he nailed his dad's songs, with his own voice, and I think that if the band stays together for awhile, the harmonies will settle in naturally to the new voice, and he'll honor his dad by making those songs his own. I'm glad he was out there with them; I literally cried as I watched the clips; wish I could have been there in that crowd. I'm glad they're making it clear that they're not "replacing" Glenn. They're going to do just fine if they move forward with Vince and Deacon. Remembering Glenn; honoring him; recognizing that he gave it his all, all the time, but... acknowledging that Glenn's gone. His beautiful smooth tenor is irreplaceable, and I'm relieved that they didn't try to find a "replacement".
It was great to see Bob Seger too, out there rockin it like a 30 year old. And yeah, Vince Gill is a good fit. Now that the guys are all 70-ish, they still sound great, but some of their contemporaries who would have been great additions to the Eagles (like Dan Fogelberg, John Denver, & Rick Nelson :( ) are gone, and Jackson Browne & J.D. are 70-ish, too. I'm sure that touring doesn't get any easier as you near your eighth decade, especially after having been out there recording and touring pretty steadily for 50 years or more.
I wouldn't mind seeing them bring in another big name, talented musician/singer/songwriter or two about Vince's age, a decade or so younger than Don, Joe, & Timothy, maybe from among some of the singers who came of age in the late 70s/early 80s. I hope nobody flames me for saying this; there's NOBODY who sounds like Don Henley, except Don Henley. But I could get behind Bryan Adams coming in on some of Don's parts. I've heard Don's voice described as "honey over sandpaper", and that's a great description. Bryan Adams isn't that, but he does have a great, sort of raspy rock n roll voice. Maybe take some of the strain off Don and Joe. Timothy sounds as ethereal as ever. I'd love to hear an Everly Brothers-type duet sung by Tim and Vince.
And there are some terrific female singers who could hold their own with the Eagles in a show, too. Martina McBride, Sheryl Crow, Amy Grant, Trisha Yearwood... just throwing that idea out there.
Anyway. Whatever Don and the guys decide to do, I'm with them. And if these shows are their "last dance", as Don hinted the other night, I believe that Deacon could successfully front a band in his own right. He did his dad proud, and more than that: he respected the fans, and he showed that he can put his own stamp on a song & come off great.
^ Great post, K! Enjoyed reading your thoughts on this- interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I respectfully disagree. When Glenn died, with the awful shock of his loss, I too thought "This is it for the Eagles. Don & Glenn were so intertwined musically within the band; they just can't go on. Because they can't replace the irreplaceable."
But I thought of Deacon stepping in to sing some of his dad's songs, even then, and thought that would be about the only way that the band could carry on, at least carry on as the Eagles. I'd heard a lot of old YouTube clips of Glenn and Deacon, playing benefits for Deacon's school, etc., and Deacon was really singing and playing great even at age 14. So I thought, just maybe ... but it would depend on whether Don could go on with a new, younger, deeper voice alternating those haunting leads.
I believe this is the only way they could have moved forward as the Eagles, and I don't think it would have worked if they DIDN'T keep the Eagles name. It's a healing thing. Glenn's gone, but his band can live on. Maybe some of the other guys' kids will even come in to the band eventually; I haven't heard anything specific; I'm just speculating :) . (But Don said his teenage son is a good drummer.)
As long as they adhere to the high standards set by the Eagles for quality, I think keeping the name is doing Glenn homage and honor.
For some reason Glenn's picture didn't show up when I post the other pictures.
Here's Vince with Glenn and the late Eddie Rabbitt.
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Love the bowling photo!
Clearly, substituting Deacon Frey and Vince Gill for Glenn Frey has bought the band more time and enabled them to capitalize on Irving's expanding Classic tour.
Bringing up about using Vince because of him being younger and his higher vocal range, I actually wondered if this was also the reason they got him in the band as I noticed he did some of what used to be Randy's and Timothy's highest harmonies. Just made me wonder if maybe Timothy isn't able to hit some of the high notes as much but Vince can.
And love the pic of Vince, Glenn, and Eddie too!!! :D
Nice picture! I think you are right--Timothy sang backing vocals on ICTYW for that album so that makes sense.
I didn't know Glenn ever hung out with Eddie Rabbitt. I love Eddie's music, he was gone way too soon. Thanks for posting these cool pics, Shun.
There's another picture of Vince, Glenn and I think Huey Lewis at a golf tournament, but I can't find that picture. I think it was in an article that Vince did after Glenn's death.
Eddie Rabbitt! :inlove:
Loved his music, always. This is a great shot. Everybody looks happy. Glenn wore those bright colors so well -- most guys do, they just won't.
Thanks for posting this!
@kittenz. Yes. What you said. Excellent post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts so eloquently.
Obviously we aren't going to see eye to eye and that's fine.
But it was mostly Travis Tritt who made the Eagles get back together after making that video of TIE.
By equality I mean in terms of importance and contribution to the band as the other guys, the actual band members. Not as human beings.
Yes, he may have contributed something indirectly, but that's not the same as contributions by Frey, Henley, Walsh, Schmit, Felder, Meisner, and Leadon.
As far as the silencing thing in the 3.0 thread, when I posted something negative in the anticipation thread, I was NOT welcome. I feel it's only fair for those of us to speak freely in the 3.0 thread without worrying about people getting upset.
That's all I'll say. I'll post more in the Vince thread.
After seeing some clips from both West and East, I have no idea why he's there.
I mean Deacon is singing PEF, which is about as smooth soft country as it gets, and he's even better at the rocking songs IMO and then you got Vince singing Heartache Tonight, and IMO can't deliver like Glenn or Bob. I think Deacon can.
Either give Vince all of the soft songs, and Deacon all of the rockers, or just let Deacon sing everything, which even though I'm against it, I'd rather see happen.
I think Vince is good, but I really don't understand why they feel they need him.
Sure, he could play Felder's parts but they have Steuart. And Deacon is doing Glenn's rhythm and solos. And Joe is going to play, well Joe's parts. And I think with 3 guitars, do they really need another guitar in the mix just strumming along? I think not. And if Deacon can sing PEF, he can sing Lyin' Eyes. NKIT too. And if he can sing Already Gone, he can sing Heartache Tonight.
I just don't see him as a necessary component of Eagles 3.0. I think Deacon is more than enough capable to sing the entire set. If he doesn't want to, fine. But Vince is just not actively contributing anything that the other guys can't do.
It's like they are using him for his name and lets have "Vince Gill" sing, and maybe people will forget about Glenn not being there. Vince Gill, is a bigger name than Deacon Frey (sadly), and maybe Irving and Don thought they needed that.
Even if Deacon coukd or shoukd sing all of Glenn's songs -- which is certainly debatable -- they absolutely need Vince for his spot on backup vocals.
True, but there wasn't an extra member just for BGV's before. I mean I definitely feel like his best area in the band right now is BGV's, but I guess I didn't realize Deacon couldn't sing backup. I guess then keep him for background vocals but certainly leave the rockers to Deacon. Vince on HT was awful, IMO. Eeek.
It would have been very high risk to have just Deacon, and a lot of pressure on his shoulders. It could have backfired if Deacon found the pressure too much and was unable to perform. Having Vince Gill there creates a safety net.
I can understand that...
If it made Deacon more comfortable, I can understand it. Less work to do.
I just don't think he brings anything to the band that couldn't be found elsewhere or within the members they already have. I think he's just not a good fit, I guess.
I think Deacon is still work-in-progress and that would have been even more true when they recruited Vince. It's better to have more talent than you need than to fall short.
I'll admit that I haven't been listening to the Vince Gill vocals so I'm not a good judge. My impression is he's blending in rather than standing out and that's probably deliberate.
WF - I agree, I think it was more Travis Tritt than anything Vince did to get the Eagles back together. If he had not asked/insisted they be in his video who know what would have happened. However, that album sure woke the guys up as to their influence in county music.
I know this is off topic for this thread. Sorry, I was just responding to the two above posts. Back to the talented Deacon Frey.
I think Vince has been doing well too but I already was a fan of his. Besides his own songs and guitar playing he's well knowing for harmonizing on many other people's songs. I posted earlier that I think he was brought in too as I've been wondering if it's getting harder for Timothy on some songs because of his age as most people's vocal range changes as we age. And maybe Timothy harmonizing with Deacon on TIE didn't sound the same since Deacon sings a bit lower than Glenn.