Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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YoungEaglesFan
Though I’ve made my feelings clear on this issue and I feel strongly about the topic, I think we should try to move the discussion to another thread
It’s not my call but I agree it makes sense this be moved to the other thread.
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Ive always been a dreamer
However, I do agree that they will not see the version of the band that recorded most of these songs regardless of what spin Don Henley and others may try to put on it. They are accepting substitutes, but if those who go are aware of this and are cool with it, then I'm sure they will go and have a good time.
That hasn’t happened since HFO, when about 60% of the non-solo setlist were performed by a version that “originally” recorded the songs. And that’s going by songs with Felder on the original recordings. The percentage falls to 30% if Timothy is taken into account.
People readily accepted Smith as a substitute and I doubt anyone felt sorry for them.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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chaim
I just don't get why Don & the boys should suddenly start touring feverously in 2017-2018 so that the band wouldn't sink into oblivion.
I don’t believe that’s the main reason why they are touring. IMO they are touring primarily b/c they are musicians and performing is what they do. And they enjoy performing these songs as a group on the same stage. Off-stage they may not have much to do with each other. If they hated performing together there wouldn’t be enough $ to make them do it; they are rich already.
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chaim
I'll try not to make further comments in this thread, which was meant to be a positive one.
If this was meant to be a positive thread, why wasn’t the comment posted on the thread that already exists (the 2018 North American tour which touched on the subject of the #of shows)?
The OP can clarify but it appears the topic was meant to renew debate about the new line-up’s tour.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
I think they are trying to do as many concerts as they can to make as much money as they can while they can.
Not to be negative, just stating what appears to me to be the obvious.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
Well said Dreamer. I hope everyone who chooses to go has a great time.
I think all of us are aware that the time comes when we will fade into oblivion and become irrelevant. I don't have any problem with that, its a part of life. What I think is unbelievable and mean spirited is there might be some people (I'm not talking specifically about this site) that are wishing for that to happen to Don, Joe and Timothy sooner rather than later.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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travlnman2
This ^^. Most people know that Vince Gill and Deacon never recorded with the Eagles.
Deacon is the Eagles Jason Bonham IMO. I don't recall anyone ever having a problem with Jason performing with Zeppelin in 07. Or I just wasn't on the internet than :D.
I want to see the band because I wan't to see them play the songs I love live. I never had the chance. Most people are probably the same way.
Saying someone feels sorry just comes off as superior and rude
The band has had so many different version's that the only way to see the band that recorded the songs are to have a tour with everyone who was ever in the band. Never will happen.
Feeling sorry for people who didn't see the band with Glenn, never mind which version, is legitimate & should not be dismissed as 'rude'. However if people wish to see it their choice should be respected, that's true.
THere is no comparison between Jason Bonham & Deacon Frey because Jason didn't sing any songs and it was a one off show, not a tour. They are the sons of the deceased members, that's all. Regarding Steuart Smith, he was never paraded around as a member of the Eagles. He never got his photo plastered all over websites. He was & still is a backing musician.
As for all the 'they're doing it because they love it & they don't want to fade away' stuff.... they could have continued their solo careers & I would not have had a problem.
However please note that I do not wish to have any arguments. I understand that once again, the naysayers such as myself are being asked to refrain from posting in threads like this. We do our best. It's going to be very difficult when this tour begins.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
First of all, I have to agree with Delilah that it appears this thread was started to renew the debate about the upcoming tour since pro and con threads already exist, but maybe BB can clarify. So, IMO, moving these posts to other threads is not a satisfactory solution. Certainly nothing new has come up recently that changes the discussion to my knowledge so everything here is bound to be a rehash of the same ole, same ole. But, if members want to participate, I guess circular discussion is fine as long as everyone remains civil and respectful.
To respond to some remarks that have been made, I don’t want to speak for WalshFan, but I doubt that he intended his post to be rude. To be fair, I mischaracterized his post because he didn’t say that he felt sorry for those who go to a show now. I can understand about feeling bad for those who never had the opportunity to see the ‘real’ Eagles with Glenn because, as most seem to agree, including even Don, the current lineup is not the same band. As has been stated in other threads, for those that are only interested in seeing the songs performed live, one option is, save yourself a lot of money and go see a tribute band. There are actually quite a few excellent ones out there. But, if you want to see this particular lineup with Deacon and Vince Gill, then certainly go for it and enjoy yourself.
And Delilah, I know you feel that the band hasn’t really been legitimate since Bernie, Randy, and Felder departed and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, I respectfully disagree and, honestly, I feel the majority of fans had no problem with the band continuing at any point after losing these men. As far as HFO, I believe fans were elated at the news that the band was reuniting and there wasn’t hardly any backlash about the lineup in the fandom that I am aware of. I’ve said before that if you believe losing Glenn was equivalent to losing the others, then nothing I say will convince you otherwise. But, suffice it to say when Leadon, Meisner, and Felder departed, you never heard fans and the band members, collectively or individually, declare that the band was over. With all due respect, IMO, they were right then - it was different with Glenn because he was essential to the Eagles.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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Freypower
Feeling sorry for people who didn't see the band with Glenn, never mind which version, is legitimate & should not be dismissed as 'rude'. However if people wish to see it their choice should be respected, that's true.
THere is no comparison between Jason Bonham & Deacon Frey because Jason didn't sing any songs and it was a one off show, not a tour. They are the sons of the deceased members, that's all. Regarding Steuart Smith, he was never paraded around as a member of the Eagles. He never got his photo plastered all over websites. He was & still is a backing musician.
As for all the 'they're doing it because they love it & they don't want to fade away' stuff.... they could have continued their solo careers & I would not have had a problem.
However please note that I do not wish to have any arguments. I understand that once again, the naysayers such as myself are being asked to refrain from posting in threads like this. We do our best. It's going to be very difficult when this tour begins.
He is credited as a band member in the Celebration day movie. He also performed in the 1980s and 90s reunions. He also has his own band that plays only Zeppelin Music.,
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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Ive always been a dreamer
To respond to some remarks that have been made, I don’t want to speak for WalshFan, but I doubt that he intended his post to be rude. To be fair, I mischaracterized his post because he didn’t say that he felt sorry for those who go to a show now. I can understand about feeling bad for those who never had the opportunity to see the ‘real’ Eagles with Glenn because, as most seem to agree, including even Don, the current lineup is not the same band. As has been stated in other threads, for those that are only interested in seeing the songs performed live, one option is, save yourself a lot of money and go see a tribute band. There are actually quite a few excellent ones out there. But, if you want to see this particular lineup with Deacon and Vince Gill, then certainly go for it and enjoy yourself.
Absolutely right on Dreamer. It wasn't at all "superior" or even remotely "one upping" anyone. I was taken aback by TM's comments. Trust me, if I had a magic ball and could make it so everyone here could have seen them with Glenn, then I would. It isn't and shouldn't be some exclusive elite club where I feel better than those who didn't see them. I truly feel bad for those that for whatever the reason couldn't see the real Eagles - with Glenn. If people don't care and want to go to the new band or they couldn't get there and are going to see what they can while they can, no ill feelings from me on that. I just wish they could have seen Glenn and the guys together at least once. I only saw them twice, but I wish I could have given one of those experiences to someone else because I think it was a special thing. I cherish it.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
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travlnman2
He is credited as a band member in the Celebration day movie. He also performed in the 1980s and 90s reunions. He also has his own band that plays only Zeppelin Music.,
I am actually going to see Jason's Led Zeppelin Experience in May. That is not relevant to whether he was credited as a member of his father's band or not. There are many interviews and photos of them from 2007 where only Plant, Page & Jones appeared in the photos. In any case, the Led Zeppelin reunions were all one offs. They never did a tour like the 'Eagles'. They never reformed on a full time basis.
Re: Looks like The Band is on a full fledged tour next year!!
I totally don't get the Jason Bonham/Deacon Frey comparison. The only thing in common is that they stood in for their dad after his death.
John Bonham and Glenn Frey aren't not on the same level of importance to the band. Let me just say that right off the get go. They just aren't.
Glenn was the founder, co-leader, and songwriter of the Eagles. The driving force. He was not just another musician or band member. Not to say John Bonham wasn't great - one of the best drummers. And look, even with all that said, other than a one off reunion, that was it.
Can you imagine if it was Robert Plant that had passed and Page, Jones, and Bonham did what the guys are doing now? It wouldn't be Led Zeppelin. But even though he was just their drummer, they realized it wouldn't be right to continue it. Now take someone of Glenn's importance. It should be even more significant than Bonham's death ending the band. But no, they are going on as a caricature of what they used to be.
So no, I don't think it's a good comparison at all.
