Vaguely, but perhaps at that stage it may still have been Timothy Drury? Or John Corey? I don't actually know who was in the backing band for those shows.
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Happy Birthday to Erica Swindell.
Happy Belated 66th Birthday to Steuart Smith yesterday.
I didn't think Will was playing at this show, but looking at this video I agree it does look a bit like him.
In an effort to find out who it is, I looked at Timothy Drury's website and found he has a link where you can send him a message. So I asked him if he played keyboards for the Eagles Millennium shows, and he replied by email that it was indeed him who played for these shows (there were 2 in Las Vegas as 'warm-ups' before the New Years Eve one in LA). So the question is answered.
Thanks for the detective work!
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/40/d7/42/4...e0d22842c2.jpg For Steuart Smith's fans :rockguitar:
:birthday: A belated Happy Birthday to Will Hollis (6 Jan).
(I'm so ashamed of myself for not posting this on the right day)
Yes, Happy Birthday Will!
Happy birthday Will Hollis!
I lived in Rochester, NY for 3 years and still have family there, so I scream at my tv every time I watch the Melbourne concert and Glenn introduces Will Hollis from Rochester, NY! Not bad company for a native Rochesterian ;)
Happy Belated Birthday to Will.
Well I'm terribly late, but I'd like to also wish Will a happy belated birthday. Hope it was a great day and :cheers: to many more.
I've been wanting to ask this but never thought to bring it up:
What was Will's reasoning for leaving?
I wasn't aware that Will had left the band, so this is news to me.
I saw some pictures from the shows in New Zealand. Will Hollis is still in the band. SO I'm guessing you were talking about Will Henley. You didn't clarify which Will you were talking about.
Happy Belated Birthday to Michael Thompson. It was either the 11th or the 12th. I still don't know which date it was, but it was one of those days.
Happy belated birthday to Michael. Hope it was a great day and :cheers: to many more.
Happy Birthday to Steuart.
As usual - I'm very late to the party, but hope Steuart had a wonderful birthday!
Happy 56th Birthday to Scott.
Happy belated birthday to Scott Crago. Hope it was a good one.
Happy Belated Birthday to Michael Thompson.
Also Erica Swindell got engaged yesterday. She just posted on her Instagram. He's a cute guy. He's also a musician.
Didn’t see this posted anywhere (ok I didn’t exactly search high and low :mrgreen:). This is a nice article about the guys who back the band members at concerts and on some of their albums. Discussed are John Corey, Scott Crago, Steuart Smith, Michael Thompson and Will Hollis.
Read More: Eagles Touring Members: The Band Behind the Band by Corey Irwin, Ultimate Classic Rock, July 11, 2020
Thanks Delilah - That article has been posted before, but it never hurts to see things again.
I remember the article because the picture they posted of Michael Thompson is not him.
Poor Michael Thompson! His name is just too common!
I think Stuart Smith is a great guitar player and works well with Joe, in fact he appears with Joe on his Vet's Aid concerts. Joe has been bring Stuart into his songs more and more. They play a lot of solo parts together but in harmony. It's easy to recognize Stuart in pictures because he uses a thumb pick which puts his right hand in a different position than those who use a regular pick. Stuart did a lot of guitar playing on the LROE album in fact Joe said that he did very little guitar playing and played mostly piano, keyboard and organ laying just solo parts and such.
I have a question about Stuart. Has anybody heard him sing? I've looked for YouTube with him singing, even backup, and can't find anything. expect guitar of course. He's played with so many others but just no singing. Just wondering what he sounds like and where he fits in the Eagles harmony. I noticed in the Forum Concert he didn't sing as much. Usually he sings on most all the songs, in fact Joe seemed to sing more than Stuart.
I love him and him and Joe on the talk box in "Those Shoes" I wish Joe would take Stuart on tour with him they look like they really like playing together. Joe really likes having another player to bounce off of. They complement each other so well.
I going to take some flack for this but I think Stuart is just as good if not better than Don. While Don is a great guitar player, he songs he writes seemed to involve guitar solos as the primary and singing as the secondary. Stuart, like Joe, is a musician who plays guitar. He understands how a band works and everybody has different part to play in the band.
This year marks Will, Steuart, and Michael's 20th Anniversary of playing with the Eagles.
Regarding Steuart's singing, I actually think he sings high vocals. The reason is because on this part in every Eagles arrangement of TITTL I've heard, the lower vocals usually drop out, but the higher vocals will harmonize "to the limit." Steaurt sings during this part.
https://youtu.be/ZJ7s5CQli44?t=191
Also, during SBR at the line "running like a child," there is a unison lead that is very high. Steuart sings during this part, but I don't hear another harmony.
https://youtu.be/SEUqyuxT1Qk?t=121
Steuart also sings the tenor part above Rodney Crowell when they perform together.
https://youtu.be/RjlyGATCyaE?t=650
I suspect that most of the harmonies are doubled by the backing musicians at this point. Sometimes I wonder if Joe is even on mic during harmonies based on the fact that Joe had a very unique way of singing harmony in the 1970s, but now I can't hear him sing at all.
Thanks I know Joe sings the lower harmony. I have noticed when he sings with other artist he drops down and loses his rock voice, as I call it. When he sings lower he really sounds good but I noticed he loses his unique sound.
Well lets hope they can get out on the road soon, they're not getting any younger. Even Don says his voice is going so in someways the layoff may have helped. I haven't really heard any of the others singing during the layoff, Joe has done a couple things with Ringo.
I have theorized that Steuart may have contributed vocals on the Long Road of Eden album. Given how much he was singing on stage, it would make sense to use him as back up on the album; why not? But it’s just a theory, I can’t say I can make out that it’s actually his voice I’m hearing on some of the songs, like “Waiting in the Weeds.”
I don’t think he sang as much in the Forum show b/c the addition of Vince made it unnecessary, plus Deacon tends to harmonize with Vince, adding another layer of strong vocals.
As far as being better than Don, better at what? Steuart can certainly play and has made some nice contributions to their last album, but I don’t believe he’s written anything as iconic as “Hotel California” or the bassline to “One of These Nights.” Being a team player is great, but that’s generally not the main way hit records are made.
I think Scamp means in terms of technical ability he is "better". In which he may be right as far as technicality. Steuart is a slightly more versatile player I would say.
However, I really don't like equating being more technical = better. I mean I think it means they are more advanced but that doesn't mean someone who wants to play like Keith Richards is bad. Actually its usually the more simple parts that make their way onto hit records and into brains. I hate comparisons in general and trying to make it competitive.
While the business of music is competitive and cut throat, the artistry is subjective not objective and I feel competition stifles creation and can lead to many talented people getting pushed aside in a popularity contest or in terms of technical ability. I'd rather hear Keith Richards than Joe Satriani anyway. Does that mean technicality = bad, no. But I see them as equally worthy of respect. I prefer more reckless rock abandon in my music. I feel like completion and art, while they frequently go hand in hand, really shouldn't. I feel like for every Mona Lisa, we need the kid who put his heart and soul into a finger-painting in kindergarten and should treat them with respect and admiration. I'm usually alone in this, but it's a hill I'm very comfortable dying on. Some would whine about participation trophies but I feel we should build each other up. Constructive criticism should always be focused on the piece presented, not the ability or quality of the artist providing it. For everyone who likes a Louis Vuitton handbag, someone hates it and likes their off brand they got from Walmart. There is room for all of it. Whether or not you are successful a lot of the times is at least 50 percent out of your hands in modern times. It's harder to get your music noticed let alone get a deal or make it big. There is a lot of shallowness in the industry that wants someone to look as good as they sound now. :(
In terms of a team player - I'd argue the fact Felder wasn't one is largely why he was fired, but that's for another thread another day. I don't think at this stage of the band, even when Glenn was still alive, they were looking to have another Felder type character to write with. That was largely past them, I'd say The Long Run was their last hurrah. I appreciate LROOE, and it has nothing to do with Felder not being there but rather after the HFO reunion I think they knew their remaining gifts to be shared was play music live. It wouldn't have mattered anyway. That creative youthful spark was long gone, largely since Hotel California IMO. But there is a reason their 70s output is still so played now.
So, because of that, I dare say the fact Stu is a team player is not a hinderance but a highlight. There is nothing wrong with being a team player. There is also nothing wrong with realizing what Glenn himself said in HOTE - you can't do it without the other guys but not everyone gets to touch the ball all the time aka run the band. There can't be that many leaders. Hence why Eagles LTD as it was, was foolish. It was Glenn and Don's band. They couldn't do it without Felder, Meisner, Walsh, Leadon, etc. But make no mistake they were the Lennon and McCartney. Does that make Harrison and Starr useless? Heck no! But don't get it wrong, the other two will always be out front more running the ship. The two leaders will always find their way to the top. Especially if the band was pieced together over time by one or two members slowly adding and removing members to get the musical stew just right. Glenn asked Don, so the ball started with Glenn and Don would tell you it was Glenn's band. But those two then sought out the rest. Were they essential for their eras, absolutely. But GF/DH's partnership lead the band and thus seen as the primary songwriting geniuses behind the bulk of the band's creative output - right, wrong, or indifferent. I wish it wasn't a hierarchical system. I really do. It goes back to my art and competition thing. But the business of music is a different animal than measuring talent or art created. The music business is nasty. Always has been. But the band for better or worse has survived it. And Glenn and Don made the right decisions.
And it's been said before but I don't think Steuart Smith had any intentions of taking Felder's place as an Eagle or as a rockstar or a writer. He knew that the band was mostly focused on touring. He wanted to work on LROOE because he's a studio musician and that's his world. But he's not going to be sitting in his beach house in Mailbu snorting coke while coming up with a chord progression. He's truly a hired gun sideman. He just plays Felder's parts just like a newly hired factory worker would build the same parts in the same spot on the assembly line as the guy they fired last week. He's there to complete a task the bosses need to keep the business running. Nothing more nothing less. But he's never tried to be an Eagle or punch above his weight class, and he gets my immediate and full respect for that very reason. Steuart is nothing if not humble. Class act.
Glad to be here when other people are actually online. That almost never happens.
In the videos I've seen of recent Eagles shows, Steuart sings the same lines that he did when Glenn was still alive. i'd imagine that they use him to double Henley's part or Tim's part.
As for Felder, I won't say anything about his personality because all of them seem very cagey and passive aggressive at their best. What I will say is that Don had a really thick tone that suited most of the Eagles recordings he was on (except at the millennium concert, his guitar sounded like it was underwater for some reason; I don't know why). Steuart does not have this thick tone as he slaps at the strings instead of hitting them solid like Felder did. Steuart also has a lot of compression applied to his tone while Felder doesn't seem to. I also notice that Felder has better timing and can get with a groove better than Steuart can.
To address their versatility or lack thereof, it may be worth remembering that Felder likely has more irons in the fire than we know about. It's clear that he has a lot of knowledge about how the production side of things works (in several interviews he's discussed recording gear extensively and even stated that he had Pro Tools in the 90s!), and if one examines the guitar solos that he wrote, one can see that there's a variety of different influences that he applies tastefully to different songs. To me that's the most important thing that Don brought to the table as his songwriting is lackluster at best imo.
I think this has been such a great thread. I enjoy hearing what other think, especially when everyone everyone is being so informative in their post. No trash like on other sites, just good positive attitude. Real Eagles fans here. Love it.
I can't wait for them to return to touring. All this time without live music has been terrible. There's something satisfying about having live concerts. I think Ive about worn out my DVD collection of concerts.
Stay safe everyone, we're getting through this...Concerts are coming.
PS I really enjoy the way Joe and Steuart play together and the way they seem to being enjoying it too. Two different styles the complement each other.
Happy Birthday to Scotty. It was so cool to meet him and Michael 5 years ago.
Also congrats to Erica Swindell. She got married I think 2 weeks ago.
Happy Birthday to Scott.
A belated Happy Birthday to Scott - a really friendly and sweet guy. Hope it was a good one.
Steuart Smith. Found this article on Steuart. He talks about some of his past groups and people he's played with and they talk about him. He has quite a background. I found it interesting because I like Steuart and his playing. It's a good read.
https://northernvirginiamag.com/cult...title-private/
Steuart is what Glenn said in the HOTE doc - a terrific musician. He really can rock it up despite coming from more of a country music background. And he does so in a more raw way than most country guitarists. Most country guitarists are too technical when they try to play Classic Rock. Steuart has those abilities but he can also play a rock solo and make it not sound too perfected and he can really groove and let loose but can also tighten it up when need be. He's a chameleon. He makes those Gibson SG Juniors sound like a million bucks. Great crunchy rock tone. The guys lucked out getting him. And they really have got their money's worth out of him. He's very consistent and is reliable.