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    I have to say, I think "Try and Love Again" is my favorite Eagles song. Before I ever really had a sense of who the Eagles were and what they stood for musical history, I recall hearing it as a "deep cut" on the local classic rock station, and it was one of the first songs I bought off Rhapsody as a kid, before iTunes. For YEARS, it was the only Eagles' song I owned on my iPod. The structure of it just blows me away. I just love Randy's passion when signing it, and all the harmonies are so lush.

    So two questions---one, did they ever perform it live, during Randy years? (If so, any existing performances to watch/hear, besides Randy's solo version of it in YT?)

    Number two, during the main verses, is it Don or is it Glenn doing harmony with Randy? I always thought Don, but now I'm not so sure, the more I hear the guys singing other songs together...? And at the end (okay, so it was three questions!!) the "Gonna try, gonna try, gonna try..."--is that Randy and Don, or just Don and Glenn?
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    AEW - I don't believe the band ever played the song live, and the liner notes do not list the backup vocalists on the song. I have no idea who is singing the backup harmonies, but it sounds like to me that it is a blend of both Don and Glenn's voices. There are parts where it definitely sounds like more than one back vocalist, but I'm guessing there are probably at least two vocalists on all of the harmony parts.

    And for what it's worth, I love the song too and think it is very underrated.

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    This is the only song off Hotel California they've never done live, presumably because of Randy's reluctance to be front and center and his subsequent exit from the band.

    I'm not sure who's doing backing vocals. I suspect Dreamer might be right.

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    The backing part on the word 'oh' before the chorus sounds very much like Glenn, or at least his voice is higher in the mix. The rest of it would be both Don & Glenn.

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    Thanks for all input, y'all. It does sound like a Don/Glenn blend signing underneath Randy. it is a fairly intricate song to sing live, I suppose, but golly, I wish they wold have attempted it at least once. . The ending would be spellbinding to see performed live on stage, all those layers of voices...and more great guitar interplay 'tween Joe and Felder. Maybe it was a song easier to perfect in studio using technical tomfoolery versus bring able to replicate live....?

    I always thought perhaps it was a song they sorta hated, seeing how little it's ever mentioned. But they did use it fairly conspicuously in the doc, and Glenn was musical supervisor/director for it, wasn't he?

    I think Randy did go on and sing it in his solo shows in the 80s, though the key does sound dropped in the YT audio version.

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    Randy was on the verge of leaving the band when the song was released. Perhaps it was suggested that they include in the HC tour setlist & he outright refused. He left not long afterwards.

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    So Glenn gave that solo away too? This makes me wonder...Don F "had to use" a double-neck guitar so that he could play both the 12-string acoustic part and the harmony guitar part live (talking about Hotel California). Why didn't Glenn just play that 12-string acoustic part (with a capo on the 7th fret) live? Instead Glenn played a 6-string acoustic part with a capo on the 2nd fret; a guitar part that isn't even in the record, except maybe in the choruses. If Glenn had played that main 12-string acoustic part live, it could've been heard throughout the song, and it would've even been an acoustic, like on the record.
    This is slightly off-topic, but I just don't get why Don didn't give that part (the Hotel 12-string) for Glenn to play when they did it live - or why Glenn didn't ask if he could play it. Don using a double-neck electric instead is about the same as Glenn having a guitar with him while sitting at the keyboard and playing the ICTYW solos when the time came.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaim View Post
    So Glenn gave that solo away too? This makes me wonder...Don F "had to use" a double-neck guitar so that he could play both the 12-string acoustic part and the harmony guitar part live (talking about Hotel California). Why didn't Glenn just play that 12-string acoustic part (with a capo on the 7th fret) live? Instead Glenn played a 6-string acoustic part with a capo on the 2nd fret; a guitar part that isn't even in the record, except maybe in the choruses. If Glenn had played that main 12-string acoustic part live, it could've been heard throughout the song, and it would've even been an acoustic, like on the record.
    This is slightly off-topic, but I just don't get why Don didn't give that part for Glenn to play when they did it live (or why Glenn chose not to play it). Don using a double-neck electric instead is about the same as Glenn having a guitar with him while sitting at the keyboard and playing the ICTYW solos when the time came.
    It would have been Glenn's decision, not Felder's. As if Felder would say 'hey man, you played it on the record, play it live'. I suspect that yet again, it was a way of keeping Felder off his case. In any case, as it was dropped fairly quickly....

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    Default Re: Question in "Try and Love Again"

    Glenn has always readily admitted Felder was the better guitarist; why not let Felder show his stuff? Glenn has never been a spotlight hog, despite the way some would like to depict him. Indeed, I think he goes too far the other way.

    That's why I love that Glenn is playing more solos this tour!

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    Default Re: Question in "Try and Love Again"

    Quote Originally Posted by sodascouts View Post
    Glenn has always readily admitted Felder was the better guitarist; why not let Felder show his stuff? Glenn has never been a spotlight hog, despite the way some would like to depict him. Indeed, I think he goes too far the other way.

    That's why I love that Glenn is playing more solos this tour!
    Can't wait to see & hear him!

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