That is what I told my hubby I don't wish on my worst enemy not fun they gave me vicodin it help and the anti bacterial meds first time I had them which was the worst the doc gave me no pain meds second time they did I hope I don't get them for a 4th time mine are triggered by stress second time was triggered when l lost my mother in law and father in law and uncle in law in a 5 month period third time not sure what trigger it