Rehearsals for 2013 HOTE tour

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Another thing to keep in mind is that when they start a new tour with new sets and set lists, it's not just the songs and music they rehearse. The way this band approaches their live shows makes their 'practices' actually more of a dress rehearsal for a stage production.

[UndertheWire]

There was more than a three year gap between the end of the HFO tour and the Millenium concerts, so they probably needed the practice. I know they did a couple of benefits in between but I'm guessing those were short sets and nothing too fancy.

[BillBailey1976]

Those Shoes would have required a fair bit of refreshing in particular given the prominent use of the talk box guitars, and the fact that I don't think it had ever been played prior to the Millennium Concerts. I can imagine it would have been a long time since they last played TLHTM too - without knowing for sure I'm guessing it would have been dropped around the time of On The Border, being an acoustic country/folk song which tended to be performed with all the band members at the front (see the BBC performance of the song) I suspect it would have been dropped from the set when Felder joined and the emphasis of their live shows started to move away from their close-knit harmonies to a more guitar-driven live sound (contrast the BBC show with Don Kirshner's Rock Concert to illustrate this, even the California Jam show without Felder shows some change in this regard).

They did perform "Those Shoes" in 1980. I don't know about other than that. It's on the "LA Long Run" bootleg.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

What Long Run bootleg do you have, BB?

[BillBailey1976]

It's called "The L.A. Long Run", recorded in March 80 at the Forum.
Setlist. Soundboard Recording

1. Hotel California
2. Already Gone
3. In the City
4. King of Hollywood
5. Sad Cafe
6. Lyin Eyes
7. I Cant Tell You Why
8. Those Shoes
9. Heartache Tonight
10. One of These Nights
11. Turn to Stone
12. The Long Run
13. Life's Been Good
14. Life in the Fast Lane
15. Carol (Fades Out)

[GlennLover]

It's called "The L.A. Long Run", recorded in March 80 at the Forum.
Setlist. Soundboard Recording

1. Hotel California
2. Already Gone
3. In the City
4. King of Hollywood
5. Sad Cafe
6. Lyin Eyes
7. I Cant Tell You Why
8. Those Shoes
9. Heartache Tonight
10. One of These Nights
11. Turn to Stone
12. The Long Run
13. Life's Been Good
14. Life in the Fast Lane
15. Carol (Fades Out)

I don't have that one and have never heard of it. Wow, I guess there are still some gems out there to be discovered!

[sodascouts]

I have that and also another version of the same show that's a bit lower in audio quality, but contains some more songs:

Disc One

1) Hotel California
2) Already Gone
3) In The City
4) King of Hollywood
5) The Sad Cafe
6) Lyin' Eyes
7) I Can't Tell You Why
8 ) Desperado
9) Those Shoes
10) Heartache Tonight
11) One of These Nights
12) Turn to Stone

Disc Two

1) Life's Been Good
2) Life in the Fast Lane
3) Rocky Mountain Way
4) Greeks Don't Want No Freaks
5) Take It Easy
6) Oh Carol
7) The Best of My Love

[Funk 50]

There was more than a three year gap between the end of the HFO tour and the Millenium concerts, so they probably needed the practice. I know they did a couple of benefits in between but I'm guessing those were short sets and nothing too fancy.

They've certainly been a lot busier, if not more productive since ditching Felder.

When Bill Wyman was asked to perform with The Rolling Stones, a couple of years ago, after his long absence, he put YouTube on to relearn all his parts before meeting up with the chaps again. He was gutted to learn that they only wanted him for a song or two.

Learning "parts" is so much easier in the internet age. (Unless the songs have all been removed due to contractual and ownership issues of course )

[VAisForEagleLovers]

They've certainly been a lot busier, if not more productive since ditching Felder.

When Bill Wyman was asked to perform with The Rolling Stones, a couple of years ago, after his long absence, he put YouTube on to relearn all his parts before meeting up with the chaps again. He was gutted to learn that they only wanted him for a song or two.

Learning "parts" is so much easier in the internet age. (Unless the songs have all been removed due to contractual and ownership issues of course )

Since nearly every YouTube video has hideous audio quality, I'm not sure how anyone could learn anything anyway. It amazes me that people judge performances by these tinny, ear scratching pseudo performances. One reason our guys hunt these down and get them off the internet is copyright reasons. Another is likely that people listen to them and judge them based on them and find them wanting instead of buying a ticket and hearing what they really sound like.

[sodascouts]

The vast majority of YouTube videos are crap because they are taken with cell phones, but there are a few recorded with cameras that are actually surprisingly good quality. I imagine Wyman sought those out. Regardless, he seemed to deem them satisfactory for his purposes. Poor guy - to only get to play on a couple of songs after all that work!