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    Default Bringing back solo songs (a request)

    I have to say, the HOTE show smoked the LROOE show I saw except that I honestly wish there had been some solo songs included.

    I know, just go to the solo show. But honestly I'm not going to drive 4 hours to see them solo. If that makes me less of a fan, so be it.

    So I'd love to hear Henley doing TBOS and DL and ASWTDID and Glenn doing Smugglers Blues and THIO. Some of Joe's songs have stayed because they add a certain energy to the second half but it'd be great to hear #49, Walk Away, RMW, and of course LBG.

    I would, however, settle or compromise for one solo song from each. My preference being LBG from Joe, TBOS from Don, and THIO from Glenn. I don't think the Eagles have ever played a Tim solo song, but if they did I'd like to hear WBFS.

    Maybe I'm alone but I think the solo songs played in the context of the Eagles adds something special that they on their own don't have on record or in a solo show. Maybe it's harmonies or just having a full behind said performer but I miss the days of hearing some of those solo songs. It's the only thing I missed about the LROOE show in comparison to the HOTE show.

    For instance I loved the "oh la la la" from F1 on ODAAT. Or the twin guitars and backup vocals on LBG. Or the big atmospheric sound on TBOS. Or Joe doing his own solo on DL. It just brings something to those songs special I think.

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    I'm a big Genesis fan and I loved the fact that Genesis set lists didn't include tracks from their respective solo careers. It meant Genesis were never reduced to playing a Greatest Hits set list.

    As a Walsh fan, I'm delighted that the Eagles play solo Walsh tracks, it looks like it's the only way I'll get to see my hero play live.

    In the past, I'd say an undiluted Eagles catalogue wasn't strong enough to carry a 3 hour concert in a huge arena. I think the live concert industry has now developed enough for bands to carry a lengthy, ballad heavy set list, without losing the interest of a huge audience.

    Ideally, if the band feel that they are short of Eagles rockers, they'd be highly motivated to produce some new ones but that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Joe's tracks were always included to give Eagles concerts a bit of punch. The solo tunes they've performed since HFO added relevance and momentum to the set list. As they, and their audience now reach their Autumn years, the Eagles no longer need to chase, relevance and momentum.

    I'm torn between hearing great solo tunes and old Eagles favourites. As it is The Eagles moniker that's printed on the ticket, I think I'd prefer that they permanently ditch the solo stuff, particularly if it gives them a reason to producesome new Eagles music.

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    I'm one that prefers them to play Eagles songs at Eagles shows. That way we can get more Eagles songs and possibly some of the deeper cuts like we did with the History tour. I will try to see them solo and get those songs then.
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    I'm one that doesn't care much for deep tracks, I'm predominately a hits guy with just about any band. I guess it's because I never tire of hits, and I heard them more growing up and throughout my life and I want to hear more of them.

    Personally, I could do without the Eagles LP/Desperado-era deep tracks in the early part of the set. I'm just not that much into them personally. As I said in the Randy/Tim thread, I'm more of a fan of the band with Walsh on board, which was two 70s records. But I do like On The Border and One Of These Nights albums too. The first two didn't do much for me as they were obviously more bluegrass inflected and weren't heavy enough for me. OTB had great rockers though, and OOTN had great tunes too. The first two albums I'm "iffy" on, I love the big hits like TIE, PEF, Desperado, etc but otherwise I prefer their later more classic rock supergroup sound with Felder, and then Felder and Walsh. More my speed anyway.

    I would, however, be ok with more stuff from the HC/TLR era like VOL and such. Or bring back James Dean or Good Day In Hell from OTB. Or even Out Of Control from Desperado. Something, well, more rock n' roll (see a pattern?! ).

    I just don't go to solo shows I guess. I find it hard to drive 4 hours to see one of them. I know, bad fan - but still. If they came to Peoria or Springfield, I'd go - much like I did for Jackson Browne. But I wouldn't travel to Chicago or St. Louis for a single artist, it's just me. If I'm driving the distance, it's usually to see a big band with a big production.

    As far as new Eagles music, I'd be all for that, but I'd hope it'd be different than LROOE, which I am not much of a fan of except a couple tracks. I know I'm in the minority. I'd like to see them get back to the 70s sound and uptempo rockers and singalongs or some of the light rock stuff like NKIT or ATTIG but stay away from the sound on LROOE, which was too commercial for me, and just too different than what I'm used to.

    I have a feeling that why I like the Eagles is different than most. I see them as a great rock n' roll band, a guitar driven rock n' roll band, with amazing guitar parts and musical pieces. Not so much as a country rock/light rock band with great vocal harmonies. And that's okay, of course.

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    This probably won't go down well but I feel that Joe's solo work has been done to death by the Eagles. The last time I saw them in March I was - there is no other word - bored by those songs. They have lost any surprise value they may have had. I am told, however, that they have to be retained to give Joe something to do & that they are crowd pleasers. For me, the second half of the shows was Joe Walsh & the Eagles, not the Eagles. On previous tours I was OK with it. Not this time.

    Sadly they have such a limited catalogue that asking for them to do some solo songs no longer seems a bad idea - but if it were to happen, for me they would have to do different solo songs from the ones I have seen them do in the past. As I am certain that won't happen, it doesn't seem right for me to make suggestions. My suggestion is therefore that they acknowledge the existence of LROOE.

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    I agree with you, FP. I'm tired of the Joe solo songs as well. I'd rather not have any solo songs, but like you, if they did do solo numbers I would like them to be ones they have not performed before. I would prefer some sons from LROOE as well, especially sine the LROOE concert that I saw was the shortened set list thus How Long was the only song they played from that album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalshFan88 View Post
    I'm one that doesn't care much for deep tracks, I'm predominately a hits guy with just about any band. I guess it's because I never tire of hits, and I heard them more growing up and throughout my life and I want to hear more of them.
    I'm not sure what a deep track is, WalshFan88. The first Joe Walsh live set list I ever saw, I was stunned that he included, obscure, throwaway James Gang, pop song Funk #49, a decade after he'd left the band.

    I'd say "deep tracks" are album tracks that the record company decided were unworthy of promotion to gain radio airplay.

    A few years ago, thanks to a roughly, month long, multi-media, BBC promotion, Lou Reeds's Perfect Day rose from obscure album track to his single greatest hit in the UK, decades after it was released.
    I'm not sure if deep tracks really exist any more. You can discover an artist's entire discography in a matter of hours, pretty easily, on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by WalshFan88 View Post
    As far as new Eagles music, I'd be all for that, but I'd hope it'd be different than LROOE, ......which was too commercial for me, and just too different than what I'm used to.
    The most commercial Eagles albums, by a long, long way are Their Greatest Hits and Hotel California. In fact, they are two of the most commercially successful albums of all time. Certainly far more commercial than Long Road Out Of Eden.

    One of the weaknesses of Long Road Out Of Eden was that none of the tracks were deemed strong enough to live with the big Walsh rockers, performed towards the end of an Eagles concert. Even the solo albums, except Joe's, are definitely moving away from the classic rock genre.

    I'd love the Eagles to drop Joe's solo tracks, I've seen them enough times, but I think they'd need a few more up-tempo rock numbers, plus one or two more Walsh lead vocals before an entire concert of Eagles songs becomes feasible.

    Since Felder's departure, I've always felt that the Eagles should release a 4 CD collection, one disc each, allowing them to put anything they want on their own particular disc, with the proviso that, the other three Eagles are also major contributes. It'd give all of them something fresh to perform at Eagles concerts, that their audience can readily get hold of.

    I wonder if the Eagles will ever copy Henley and give away free CDs with their concert tickets. They certainly charge enough....

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    I received copies of LROOE with my VIP package on that tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalshFan88 View Post
    I have to say, the HOTE show smoked the LROOE show I saw except that I honestly wish there had been some solo songs included.

    I know, just go to the solo show. But honestly I'm not going to drive 4 hours to see them solo. If that makes me less of a fan, so be it.
    You won't drive yourself for 4 Hours to see an Eagle solo and I have travelled from Dublin to Niagara Falls and Los Angeles to see a solo Eagle - as has FP from Australia! Not to mention how far people like Soda, Dreamer, PLS and others travel on a regular basis for solo shows? Ok!

    I really think the HOTE was as near to Eagles perfection as you can get. Nobody will be satisfied with 100% of the show 100% of the time. Thats life, as we all have our particular favourites but for the most part I think they had a very good mix of popular hits, deeper tracks and quite honestly some little gems. It was way better than either LROOE and Farewell 1. I know there were a few Joe solos but I think they were needed to keep that significant minority of Joe fans happy, as he does not take as many leads on the more popular Eagles songs, and his fan portion is quite significant. In fairness the guys played over 3 and a half hours. To include 4 more songs ( 1 solo each) would bring that up to nearly 4 hours which would be a big ask. Unless something was left out - and I would not have liked to see any of the HOTE left out.
    The earlier tracks from Eagles LP and Desperado were absolutely needed as they formed an integral part of the chronological presentation of their history and so it would have been fatal to leave them out IMHO anyway.

    No, I agree, Eagles songs for Eagles shows, and keep the solo songs for solo shows.
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    I thought the HOTE show was 3 hours.

    Heretical as it is to say this, it was my least favourite of the tours I have seen. There were elements of it that in my view didn't work, and to stick to the topic, one of these was what I considered the over emphasis of Joe's solo work which is not part of their history, no matter how many times I am told that it is because they've always played those songs. In the second half of the show the HOTE concept was ditched after a couple of songs & they just went back to it being all about Joe.

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