Well, I guess I should apologize too as I am the one who apparently started it all. Jeez, what a freaking mess ! I never thought I would find myself arguing over something like this, especially with everything else we have going on in the world for the past year.
FP - I have to say I could not agree with you more regarding Joe's statement about Vince. It hurt reading that from Joe. I realize he is trying to justify Vince's being in the band but still a poor choice of words. I just don't get how people think they are supposed to support everything the band does -right or wrong, just because they are fans.