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    Default Author Misses Point of Hotel California...what do you think?

    I ran across this article in another, non-Eagle forum this morning:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#disqus_thread


    I believe the author gets the meaning of this song wrong. What do you other Eagles fans think?

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    Default Re: Author Misses Point of Hotel California...what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoNottheFootballTeam View Post
    I ran across this article in another, non-Eagle forum this morning:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#disqus_thread


    I believe the author gets the meaning of this song wrong. What do you other Eagles fans think?
    I think some of what he says is right about what they are criticizing is correct but his conclusions are definitely wrong. The band was made up of some fairly strong liberals. I assume the writer was a conservative and was making some conservative points that I donít think the band would necessarily agree with

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    I agree with you. In Henley's own words, it's a song about the under belly of the American dream.

    I formulated my question incorrectly and should have asked (as you pointed out) if the author's conclusions were correct.

    Thanks for your input.

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    Default Re: Author Misses Point of Hotel California...what do you think?

    Hotel California is really a conservative song. It paints a picture of a society run amok with hyper-individualism and selfishness that is the end result of a secular (i.e., godless) consumer culture that's rejected the spiritual and conservative values of restraint, tradition, and obligation.

    Interesting. I though hyper-indvidualism was beloved by conservatives. I also don't think that restraint, tradtion & obligation are the sole virtue of conservatives.

    People might remember the yuppies iin the 80s in the UK, with their lavish lifestyles & excessive spending. Most of those people voted Conservative (for Margaret Thatcher). It is true that was after HC was written.

    However I would rather not get into a political discussion. I am not touching the 'godless' stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freypower View Post
    Hotel California is really a conservative song. It paints a picture of a society run amok with hyper-individualism and selfishness that is the end result of a secular (i.e., godless) consumer culture that's rejected the spiritual and conservative values of restraint, tradition, and obligation.

    Interesting. I though hyper-indvidualism was beloved by conservatives. I also don't think that restraint, tradtion & obligation are the sole virtue of conservatives.

    People might remember the yuppies iin the 80s in the UK, with their lavish lifestyles & excessive spending. Most of those people voted Conservative (for Margaret Thatcher).

    However I would rather not get into a political discussion. I am not touching the 'godless' stuff.
    Well I think it just boils down to certain people being conservative for different reasons I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungEaglesFan View Post
    Well I think it just boils down to certain people being conservative for different reasons I guess.

    My objection was that the writer, as a presumed conservative, was attributing what he considers the weaknesses in society which the song portrays entirely to 'liberals'. It is a sweeping judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freypower View Post
    My objection was that the writer, as a presumed conservative, was attributing what he considers the weaknesses in society which the song portrays entirely to 'liberals'. It is a sweeping judgment.
    On that part youíre right. I was just talking about your comment about the yuppies. But this writer is definitely too broad and makes some strong assumptions

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    Were all of the Eagles liberals? I know Don is, but am just curious. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim S View Post
    Were all of the Eagles liberals? I know Don is, but am just curious. Thanks.

    The majority of them were. However Don Felder objected to them doing the Alan Cranston benefit & a couple of other political things, I believe. In recent years Don Felder played at a Republican national convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freypower View Post
    The majority of them were. However Don Felder objected to them doing the Alan Cranston benefit & a couple of other political things, I believe. In recent years Don Felder played at a Republican national convention.
    I didnít know Felder played at a Republican national convention. Interesting. Itís funny I know In the book I know he says he was against the benefit and political events they were involved with but there were times where he called himself a hippie and was concerned about global issues. I donít have the exact quote on me but I believe he complains about the lack of fire about what was going on at the time with someone. Iíll have to find it

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