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    Default Re: 2020 Rock Hall of Fame Nominees Announced

    Quite honestly - I am underwhelmed by the Class of 2020.

    However, I am glad to see The Doobie Brothers finally get in. As far as Whitney Houston, I think she deserves it considering that many other pop artists have been inducted before her. I also think Pat Benetar will eventually get in. I get what people are saying about all the different genres that aren't pure rock and roll that get in, but, TBH, it has always been that way. I would argue that these other genres influence rock and roll artists or are influenced by rock and roll artists. Also, you have to account for the evolution of music - what was considered rock and roll in its infancy is only remotely similar to what is considered rock and roll by today's standards. I believe it will always be that way. I am personally not a fan of hip hop or rap either, no more than I am I a fan of heavy metal, but I do appreciate the artistry of the different genres. I wonder what rock and roll will look like 30 years from now?

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    Default Re: 2020 Rock Hall of Fame Nominees Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Ive always been a dreamer View Post
    Quite honestly - I am underwhelmed by the Class of 2020.

    However, I am glad to see The Doobie Brothers finally get in. As far as Whitney Houston, I think she deserves it considering that many other pop artists have been inducted before her. I also think Pat Benetar will eventually get in. I get what people are saying about all the different genres that aren't pure rock and roll that get in, but, TBH, it has always been that way. I would argue that these other genres influence rock and roll artists or are influenced by rock and roll artists. Also, you have to account for the evolution of music - what was considered rock and roll in its infancy is only remotely similar to what is considered rock and roll by today's standards. I believe it will always be that way. I am personally not a fan of hip hop or rap either, no more than I am I a fan of heavy metal, but I do appreciate the artistry of the different genres. I wonder what rock and roll will look like 30 years from now?
    This is nothing new, I agree. But it still bothers me and is one of the reasons I and many others think its a sham...

    We could debate about if rap is music, but it would be a long-winded one. To me there isn't much art in rhythmically repeating senseless lines and curse words and blunt sexual profanity to drum machines and a DJ scratching records. There is no double entendre or innuendo, no subtlety. Not to mention a lot of it promotes abuse and use of many things, and it just seems like a bad culture to be in. Especially gangsta rap.

    I think Whitney Houston, on the other hand, is infinitely more respectable. She has actual talent and while it still isn't fit for the rock hall, RNB and soul music has a deep connection to rock n' roll just as much as blues. Just like how jazz and classical has deeply influenced country and folk music. And I cannot stand those, so maybe thats why I'm not a fan of most country music. But I LOVE Motown, Stax, etc RNB music.

    You couldn't be more right about the fact about "rock n' roll" being so much different now. To me modern rock has lost the "roll" in rock and roll. The groove, swagger, and all of that is gone. There are artists that break the mold, like Greta Van Fleet, Tyler Bryant & The Shakedown, etc, but most of it now is just not my thing at all. I recently saw an interview on YT with one of the guitarists from Buckcherry (Keith Nelson) talking about the "roll" of rock and roll missing in modern rock music. A lot of it is either noise-rock/post-rock stuff, or just straight up modern metal with cookie monster voices and guitars tuned as low as they can get them without the strings falling off, creating a low deep graveling sound to match the vocals. Bands like Slipknot, Korn, etc pioneered that sound and I absolutely hate it. Metallica is a guilty pleasure of mine, but at least there was musicality and melodic senses to their music. You can hear the lyrics, the guitars while big sounding are more old school. That's metal music I can respect. Not the Slipknot type of bands.

    And that's fine, they can exist too, but it's just rock music, not rock and roll to me. It's dramatically different than classic rock. And it's not my thing. Other than blues and RNB music, I really only like classic rock and genres that sound like it like modern country (although it's gone electronic which I'm not happy about), etc. I like 60s/70s/80s rock. Not a 90s grunge guy, not a modern rock or post-rock guy. Not necessarily a huge Elvis or Buddy Holly 50s rock fan although I respect them greatly. I love a lot of British rock bands from the invasion and the bands who they influenced. I like the old school rock n' roll sound. I love vinyl and miss the days when album art said so much and vinyl showed it big and proud. I miss MTV playing actual music videos and miss music videos period. And good live records too. I'm old school and proud.

    Oh, and I hate disco. I'm sorry Mr. Billy Joel, but it's not "still rock and roll" to me. The "new sound" is just that, a new sound. I was never a big Joel fan, but I don't mind his music - except that one. lol
    Last edited by WalshFan88; 01-21-2020 at 04:32 AM.


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