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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    Honestly, I think the media is causing a panic about this thing. I have 2 registered nurses in my immediate family and they say the corona virus has been around for years and this is another strain, but it is no worse that any of the others. Yes, if you are elderly or have a compromised immune system, any 'flu' is dangerous. I have an 87 year old mother with diabetes in the nursing home and she worries me a bit. But I believe if everyone is smart about it and washes their hands, doesn't go to work or school, or out in public if you're sick, then we will survive.

    Remember the bird flu, sars, and ebola that was going to kill us all the last few years? Didn't happen..

    The media..............

    JMO!!

    BTW, Austin, I am not uneducated and have no hidden agenda.
    I vehemently disagree, Brooke.

    Coronavirus, the name, has been around for years. This is true. However COVID-19 is unlike any other strain of corona, hence being called the "novel coronavirus". Novel means unlike others before it. This is very different than other strains, and is proven to be worse in certain populations than other strains of CV, and the flu. For some reason, it isn't hitting the youth like most viruses. It's mostly targeting older people. And the younger people that get it are mostly just carrying it with very manageable sometimes. Therein lies the problem. We probably have younger adults carrying it to their older loved ones, the older public, etc.

    Ebola never made it over here. If it had, there would have been tragic results and honestly, we would have had a massive death count. The very small number of people that worked over there that came home went to Emory University in Atlanta to be treated at home (USA), but were never exposed to anyone else. It never broke loose in the US. We should be thankful for that, and not claiming it was a hoax. JMO. SARS and bird flu didn't have the impact that was predicted, true, but also the numbers of those affected here aren't there like they are with COVID-19. We also shouldn't compare it to influenza A or B - it just got here. And with more testing in more places, those stats will only continue to grow. I have no doubt in my mind there are more people actively infected with COVID-19 than have been documented. We need more tests.

    Swine flu was very real, and H1N1 still infects people along with H3N2 and other strains of influenza. I personally contracted H3N2 two years ago, despite having flu shots! These strains can and do change and some of them can be far worse than others. Every virus can mutate and change and that's precisely what makes them so deadly. Especially if it's a major change from what was seen by it's closest comparison.

    Again - we truly need to do more research into the why and how of COVID-19 CV and we truly need to find out why it's different, and how it's spread. It's been said that if people don't wash their hands for at least half a minute, they might as well not bother. Regular plastic saran wrap type gloves that food workers use aren't going to cut it either. Hence why hand sanitizer sales are up, and people are buying special masks. The other day when the stock market was down 2000+ points, Walmart's stock was still in the green! It's because people are panicking - and damnit I can see why! I don't think that is a bad thing. It's not OTT.

    I agree completely about the handwashing, provided they are going by the recommend time set by CDC. I also agree and have said that people need to stay home if sick (with anything!), and not go to work. Even if it means you aren't paid. Even doubly so if you are in the food service or restaurant industry. I think that the food service industry is likely going to be one of the biggest if not the biggest in terms of transmit.

    I don't think you have an agenda Brooke, nor do I think you are uneducated as a person, but I think we can safely say we fundamentally disagree on this outbreak and probably best to leave it at that.
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    The WHO has officially recognized the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) as a pandemic/PHEIC.

    Events are being cancelled, orders are made in big cities that they cannot hold events with large numbers of people, and bands are cancelling/postponing tours.

    Not at all out of proportion from what I'm seeing.
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    We have our first presumptive positive in my state. The guy got it when he went to Florida. He has isolated himself at home.

    I have tickets to see Joel Osteen on Friday and then I want to see JD in Tupelo this weekend. At this point, I'm thinking about not going to neither one of them. They have cancelled our St. Patrick Day parade. Our big boss of my agency don't want our agents to travel to Memphis.

    I have sick time and its enough for three weeks. If I run out, they will probably have to go into my vacation time since I had to do that when I broke my ankle.

    I'm not afraid, but I'm being very cautious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glennsallnighter View Post
    In Ireland we will have paid leave if we have to self isolate or work from home.
    That's wonderful. A lot of people in the U.S. don't have that, but should. In my workplace, we've been getting emails from the brass to stay home if we feel unwell. But we don't have paid sick days! And this is a hospital environment, not that everyone deals with patients. Sorry, I've gone a bit OT.

    My mom's nursing home has now instituted a "no visitors" policy, including family. It's best to keep them safe though, they are the most vulnerable.
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    Austin, I guess so.

    I do feel bad for anyone that has it and hope and pray it all goes away as soon as possible.

    I guess I feel that where I live, boondocks of NE Missouri, I'm pretty much safe.
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    The concert I was supposed to go to tomorrow has finally been cancelled. I work for the Department of Corrections and they are not letting anybody come visit the prisons. I don't work in the prison, but I like I said. Our big boss didn't want any of the agents to travel close to Tennessee.

    I remembered hearing about cancelling classes at our colleges, but I can't find that. I haven't heard anything about shutting the public schools. We only have one case at this moment, but you never know when things will change.

    Brothers for life. RIP Glenn

    I'm not sure I believe in fate, but I know that crossing paths with Glenn Lewis Frey in 1970 changed my life forever, and it eventually had an impact on the lives of millions of other people all over the planet. It will be very strange going forward in a world without him in it. But, I will be grateful, every day, that he was in my life. Rest in peace, my brother. You did what you set out to do, and then some." -Don Henley

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    No real changes where I live. Kind of like Brooke, our community is in an almost rural area, away from the city and big crowds. A major development in the region is that the remainder of the Houston Rodeo has been cancelled and that is a big deal. Yesterday I saw someone wearing a mask for the first time.

    Just to clarify, there was indeed a case of Ebola diagnosed in Dallas a few years ago. The patient had travelled from an African country and there was a lot of hysteria about all the people who came into contact with him, from his partner to the hospital personnel, one of whom ended up being quarantined in her cabin on a cruise ship. Needless to say, there was no “massive death count.”

    Quote Originally Posted by NightMistBlue View Post
    That's wonderful. A lot of people in the U.S. don't have that, but should. In my workplace, we've been getting emails from the brass to stay home if we feel unwell. But we don't have paid sick days! And this is a hospital environment, not that everyone deals with patients. Sorry, I've gone a bit OT.

    My mom's nursing home has now instituted a "no visitors" policy, including family. It's best to keep them safe though, they are the most vulnerable.
    Hey, NMB, I used to work in a hospital setting as well and we had something called Paid Time Off which could be used for sick days, vacation, doctor appointments or whatever. That was many moons ago though and I know a lot has changed.

    The “no visitors” policy sounds like a good idea. Stay safe, NMB’s mom.


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    Good to know. However, I think had that patient not quarantined well by the healthcare system and had been more exposed to more people, and it had a chance to spread at large like CV is doing - there would definitely have been a massive death count. The point still stands. Your chances of surviving an ebola infection are the most grim of any virus that we know of - even in healthy people. Referring to ebola virus outbreaks, we've never had one over here and it's a damn good thing or yes, we most certainly would have had a massive death count. Ask any ID specialist or epidemiologist. It's nothing to make memes about or to be glossed over. It's not hysteria!

    The mortality rate of COVID-19 is almost 10 times higher than the flu! And we don't even know all of the data yet. The White House has severely mishandled this IMO, tests aren't getting out anywhere near as fast, data isn't coming back like it should. I have no doubt there are people out there right now who are carrying it without knowing it because the severity of it isn't anywhere as severe as in the older population! Also the contagiousness rate is higher. Whereas influenza patients will infect 1.3 new people, novel CV patients are infecting 2-3 people. This also explains the necessity to cancel large events and stay at home!

    Thankfully, we are starting to see a little action on the part of POTUS on this. We need more travel bans and we need to cancel any and all large events that house a number of people be it concerts/sports/conferences, etc. I think if we take it as serious as it is, we can at least not spread misinformation and make comics out of what is a very real situation with a measurable impact on life.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    I do feel bad for anyone that has it and hope and pray it all goes away as soon as possible.

    I guess I feel that where I live, boondocks of NE Missouri, I'm pretty much safe.
    Now that we can agree on!

    I also live out in the boonies, albeit in Illinois. I call it Redneckville, USA! However my family is still taking all of the precautions someone who lives in Peoria, Springfield, or Chicago would take.
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    Governor of Ohio has just increased spring vacation for school kids K-12 to 3 weeks starting Monday. Also a ban on meetings/gatherings of more than 100 people. (Work, church, libraries and such are exempted.) I'm gathering from Facebook posts that there is not a roll of toilet paper to be purchased in Xenia anywhere. (Good thing I bought some last Saturday… and yes, we needed it.)

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