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Pippinwhite
10-27-2017, 09:13 AM
@Magnolia-- He has that effect on me, too.... :drool:

groupie2686
10-27-2017, 10:03 AM
Pippin and Magnolia - I agree. Glenn looked sooooo good here.

I can only imagine how excited people were when this aired in 1994 (I was 8 years old and not aware of who the eagles were yet). I love watching this. Their harmonies sounded so perfect...their harmonies on Heart of the Matter and Help Me Through the Night in particular were heavenly.

chaim
10-27-2017, 11:08 AM
Yes, Glenn looked amazing at that point.

shunlvswx
11-08-2017, 10:30 AM
Happy 23rd Birthday to the Hell Freezes Over album. I can't believe its been 23 years.

Brooke
11-08-2017, 10:56 AM
Wow, I can't either!

So glad they got back together then! :heart:

New Kid In Town
11-08-2017, 12:49 PM
Wow - 23 years ! I remember when I heard they were re-uniting for the MTV show. I was so excited and shocked that hell had frozen over. They all looked really great during the HFO time period. I remember being shocked by how good looking Don F. was after he cleaned up and cut his hair. Glenn and Don def looked amazing then.

Pippinwhite
11-08-2017, 01:04 PM
@ NKIT -- I was so glad, too! I'd seen the Take it Easy video with Travis Tritt, so I knew they were looking good, and I'd been so excited since that video, hoping it meant a reunion. I enjoyed the MTV show SO MUCH! They looked like they were having such a good time.

BillBailey1976
11-08-2017, 01:30 PM
This album and concert are really what got me into the Eagles. I had greatest hits 71-75, and knew the most popular, but not until I caught the HFO concert on VH1, during the "Eagles Family Tree" deal, did I get hooked. They showed HFO, South of Sunset marathon, Don Kirshner episodes, and I was a total fan.
My mom and dad got me tickets to see the Eagles in Knoxville, on Jan 31, 1995.....I was blown away.
I still say that they sounded best during this era.

New Kid In Town
11-08-2017, 02:16 PM
Pippin - Totally agree. I remember being excited when MTV debuted the TT video- they made a big deal about it. I also remember thinking how hot they all looked - lol .

Delilah
11-08-2017, 02:30 PM
I wonder if there should be a separate thread for the MTV show taping/broadcast. Anyway I’ll go ahead and pose my queries here.

For whatever reason, the HFO Special on MTV completely passed me by in 1994. Probably b/c I was watching less MTV by then. At some point I remember reading or watching the news and it was announced that the Eagles were reuniting and going on tour. That was when I learned they were officially getting back together. I remember thinking, ‘how cool’ but it never occurred to me to go see them. At that point they seemed more of an, umm, oldies act. :nervous: (Of course looking back now that they are still performing at age 70, being in their 40s seems young, lol) Anyway, getting concert tix just wasn’t a priority for me, esp. after hearing about their sky-high ticket prices.

So, when did it actually become *official* that they were back together as a band?

1. 1993 the Travis Tritt video
2. 4/25/94 the taping of the MTV special—perhaps word leaked out to the press
3. 1994 the announcement of the tour-exactly when I don’t know; the first concert took place 5/27/94

I can see 1-2 happening without meaning that they were back together as a band; it could have all been a one-off. But then maybe they had gone ahead and announced they were back before the MTV taping.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 03:10 PM
Well, these album anniversaries are just coming one after the other, aren't they? I guess a lot of albums get released now in preparation for the Christmas season.

So... Hell Freezes Over is FIFTEEN this year! Old enough to get its driver's permit! ;)

It's not so much the content of this album as what it symbolized - America's favorite band, finally coming back together again. We already talked about the TV special in another thread, but what about the album itself?

I've gotta go now, but I'll be back to write more later.

I did go ahead and search for that other thread but couldn’t find it. FWIW, had I found it, I would have moved my post. Sorry.

New Kid In Town
11-08-2017, 03:21 PM
Delilah - From what I have read, Glenn, Don, Joe and Irving held a meeting in Aspen in Jan.1994. They told Joe they wanted to get back together but he could not be a part of it unless he entered rehab. He did and I think, but am not sure, the announcement came out in March or April 1994.

I saw the HFO Tour in March 1995 at the Spectrum in Philly with three friends. We paid $75.00 for our tickets. That was expensive but we all figured we would never see them tour again if we did not go then. Little did we know how long it would last.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 03:45 PM
Thanks, NKIT. There must have been a press release or something. I wish I would have looked into going back then but a lot was going at that time. It would have been great to see them with Don F although I wouldn’t have known anything about him. And I wouldn’t have known enough to miss Randy either, being late to his fandom. So it would have been the most ideal time for me, as I was too young to see them in the 70s.

Pippinwhite
11-08-2017, 04:17 PM
@Delilah -- Seems like there's a bit of an interview with Tim in HOTE where he mentions the Travis Tritt video and was standing around saying, "Hey guys, this is really working here!" or something to that effect. I know Travis himself said he wouldn't do the video if they couldn't get the Eagles in it. He had enough clout at that time that he could say something like that and people would make things happen.

So maybe that's when they started talking seriously about getting back together. I'd say it was certainly a catalyst.

New Kid In Town
11-08-2017, 04:19 PM
Delilah - At least we have the video to watch. I think Don F.'s book said the tour was originally only supposed to last for six months. But, when they kept selling out the tour kept getting extended. Next thing you know it was a two year tour which they made a fortune from.

Dawn
11-08-2017, 04:41 PM
Don H, Glenn and Irving announced to Joe, Timothy and Felder they'd struck a deal with MTV for a live performance in April 1994 to be aired 6 months later. This was also when they learned they had formed new business entities giving them a majority position in the new companies all but muscling Felder out. In effect Don and Glenn would be getting a much larger slice of the pie leaving the other three "to share the leftovers" (Don Felder, Heaven and Hell)

According to Felder the official start of the resumption tour began at the rehearsal stage for the MTV gig at Culver Studios. The actual MTV gig was to be filmed on a Warner Bros stage in front of a live invited audience.

Dawn
11-08-2017, 04:42 PM
HFO Tour began May 27, 1994.

My My
11-08-2017, 04:46 PM
I too remember what big news it was when "Hell Froze Over." I remember how expensive the tickets seemed at the time. I didn't watch the MTV special at the time either, don't think I knew it was on. I guess at that point, married with 3 kids, concerts weren't really a part of my life anymore! I thought they looked good, but not like the guys that I loved from the 70s. I too remember thinking "wow, these guys are in their mid 40s!" And I'm only 10-12 years younger than they are! Funny that I would see them in Louisville when they were 70...go figure!

Dawn
11-08-2017, 04:50 PM
It was the Travis Tritt video that lit the match sparking Eaglemania. The lunch meeting in Aspen between Azoff, Henley, Joe and Glenn was to throw numbers around ... numbers too tempting for any of them to resist/refuse.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the info, everyone. Does anyone know when there was an official announcement to the public? Perhaps it was the announcement of the tour, since the MTV show didn’t air until months later.


Delilah - At least we have the video to watch.

True, except now I have knowledge and understanding of what was going in behind the scenes, the disputes over money, that Felder gets fired, that Randy wasn’t there and wanted to be. I understand why that was the case; I’m not trying to start some debate about that here. But it seems to be the beginning of an effort to write him out of the band’s history, until the documentary when there was no choice but to acknowledge him.

Anyway, it’s great there’s a video and the band continued to perform, gain new fans, renew interest in lapsed fans, etc. It’s just bittersweet for me in a way it would not have been back in 1994-95.

Dawn
11-08-2017, 05:46 PM
D, all I know is reportedly it was Azoff who sent a fax announcing the news to the media about the resumption tour that simply said: Hell Has Frozen Over.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 06:17 PM
Thanks, Dawn. Seems by that simple announcement Irving was taking a lot for granted i.e. that the media knew what he was talking about.

To add something to the thread topic: of the 4 new songs from the album, the one I like best is “Learn to Be Still.” I just wonder why Don sang it the way he did. I think maybe he should have tried it in a higher key, like in “End of the Innocence.”

Freypower
11-08-2017, 06:26 PM
Thanks, Dawn. Seems by that simple announcement Irving was taking a lot for granted i.e. that the media knew what he was talking about.

To add something to the thread topic: of the 4 new songs from the album, the one I like best is “Learn to Be Still.” I just wonder why Don sang it the way he did. I think maybe he should have tried it in a higher key, like in “End of the Innocence.”

IMO the low key style of vocal is a pleasing contrast to the multitude of overwrought, melodramatic vocals with which Henley normally favours us. It's why it's a particular favourite of mine along with A Month Of Sundays. I like it when he scales it back.

Pippinwhite
11-08-2017, 07:09 PM
@Delilah -- We weren't one of the newspapers favored with an Azoff press release (too small. LOL.) However, when the entertainment writer at the Birmingham News got it from a friend, she freaked out and called our features department. That was in the days before we had voice mail, it was late afternoon, and I caught the phone call. "THE EAGLES ARE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!"

"Huh? What are you talking about, Mary?"

"The EAGLES! I got a fax from my buddy at the Denver paper from the Eagles' manager that said, 'Hell has frozen over'! What else could it mean?"

"Holy crap. Let us know if you hear anything else."

Lordy. I hadn't thought about that in YEARS. Lot of water under the bridge since then. He sent a follow-up in the next couple of days. She sent a copy of it, but our fax machine was a piece of crap and it was a fax of a fax of a fax and you could hardly read it. Still, I wish I'd kept it.

New Kid In Town
11-08-2017, 07:39 PM
I remember hearing it on the news of the local NYC tv stations. If I remember right, the announcement started as "Hell Has Frozen Over". Everyone seemed to know what it meant. I was so happy I could not believe my ears. I think it was THAT big an announcement. I remember everyone talking about it at work the next day.

Pippin - A great story !
Dawn - TY, I could not remember all the particulars ! t's been a long time but I guess I should have remembered as we have talked about it enough here - lol !

Delilah
11-08-2017, 08:17 PM
IMO the low key style of vocal is a pleasing contrast to the multitude of overwrought, melodramatic vocals with which Henley normally favours us. It's why it's a particular favourite of mine along with A Month Of Sundays. I like it when he scales it back.

Ah, but it’s those “overwrought, melodramatic vocals” that gave them so many of their hits. If I’m not mistaken, LTBS was released as a single and went nowhere. Perhaps if Henley used a sympathetic, more emotional approach to convey the song’s earnest Biblical message, LBTS would have been a hit too. Instead he sounds tired and cynical.

He sings in a higher key in “A Month of Sundays” and you can hear the vulnerability and brokenness in his voice.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 08:19 PM
@Delilah -- We weren't one of the newspapers favored with an Azoff press release (too small. LOL.) However, when the entertainment writer at the Birmingham News got it from a friend, she freaked out and called our features department. That was in the days before we had voice mail, it was late afternoon, and I caught the phone call. "THE EAGLES ARE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!"

"Huh? What are you talking about, Mary?"

"The EAGLES! I got a fax from my buddy at the Denver paper from the Eagles' manager that said, 'Hell has frozen over'! What else could it mean?"

"Holy crap. Let us know if you hear anything else."

Lordy. I hadn't thought about that in YEARS. Lot of water under the bridge since then. He sent a follow-up in the next couple of days. She sent a copy of it, but our fax machine was a piece of crap and it was a fax of a fax of a fax and you could hardly read it. Still, I wish I'd kept it.

What a cool memory! And that fax would have been a nice souvenir.

YoungEaglesFan
11-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the info, everyone. Does anyone know when there was an official announcement to the public? Perhaps it was the announcement of the tour, since the MTV show didn’t air until months later.



True, except now I have knowledge and understanding of what was going in behind the scenes, the disputes over money, that Felder gets fired, that Randy wasn’t there and wanted to be. I understand why that was the case; I’m not trying to start some debate about that here. But it seems to be the beginning of an effort to write him out of the band’s history, until the documentary when there was no choice but to acknowledge him.

Anyway, it’s great there’s a video and the band continued to perform, gain new fans, renew interest in lapsed fans, etc. It’s just bittersweet for me in a way it would not have been back in 1994-95.

I think that there was some effort to make people forget about Randy but I don’t think it would have been appropriate for Randy to be back in. Tim was there most recently. Unless they did what they did with Bernie in HOTE it wouldn’t have made sense

sodascouts
11-08-2017, 08:46 PM
I did go ahead and search for that other thread but couldn’t find it. FWIW, had I found it, I would have moved my post. Sorry.

I think I was referring to this thread (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470) but it seems to me your comments are appropriate for this thread, so no need to worry. I always appreciate how diligent you are about searching for relevant threads and keeping things on topic.

Delilah
11-08-2017, 08:48 PM
I think that there was some effort to make people forget about Randy but I don’t think it would have been appropriate for Randy to be back in. Tim was there most recently. Unless they did what they did with Bernie in HOTE it wouldn’t have made sense

I think I was pretty clear in my post:


I understand why that was the case; I’m not trying to start some debate about that here.

ETA: thanks, Soda!

Freypower
11-08-2017, 09:44 PM
Ah, but it’s those “overwrought, melodramatic vocals” that gave them so many of their hits. If I’m not mistaken, LTBS was released as a single and went nowhere. Perhaps if Henley used a sympathetic, more emotional approach to convey the song’s earnest Biblical message, LBTS would have been a hit too. Instead he sounds tired and cynical.

He sings in a higher key in “A Month of Sundays” and you can hear the vulnerability and brokenness in his voice.

Fair point about that type of singing being on a lot of hits; for these lyrics, a different approach was needed. He sounds cynical because that's what the song is until near the end. As for the message being 'Biblical' I suppose this is to do with the 'sheep without a shepherd' stuff. I am not the person to address this.

Dawn
11-08-2017, 09:47 PM
Pippin - that is a great story ... it's funny I don't remember when, where or how i first heard the news the Eagles were coming back but I do remember not being all that upset when they left lol. Perhaps because I'd been a fan since the 70's I simply accepted their decision and focused on seeing other bands I liked in concert. I also had settled down and was starting a family so I might have been a little distracted. In any event it was great to see them back on tour and I am glad I was able to see them live though without Randy and Bernie I always felt nostalgic. Still do ... they were so special.

Dawn
11-08-2017, 10:07 PM
I remember hearing it on the news of the local NYC tv stations. If I remember right, the announcement started as "Hell Has Frozen Over". Everyone seemed to know what it meant. I was so happy I could not believe my ears. I think it was THAT big an announcement. I remember everyone talking about it at work the next day.

Pippin - A great story !
Dawn - TY, I could not remember all the particulars ! t's been a long time but I guess I should have remembered as we have talked about it enough here - lol !

You are welcome NKIT. I do not have the best memory and greatly appreciate all the info and stories you have shared here. If I can help by looking something up I am always happy to try. We have a great group here, I have learned alot from all of you.

My My
11-08-2017, 10:45 PM
Fair point about that type of singing being on a lot of hits; for these lyrics, a different approach was needed. He sounds cynical because that's what the song is until near the end. As for the message being 'Biblical' I suppose this is to do with the 'sheep without a shepherd' stuff. I am not the person to address this.

I am not an expert on all things religious either, but Psalm 46:10 is "Be still and know that I am God..." Be still is a popular quote on inspirational items right now. The only reason I knew the verse was that I bought a pendant with "Be Still" on it for a friend whose husband is fighting a brain tumor. She wrote the entire verse out when she sent me a thank you note.

I was wondering if Henley even knew that it was a popular Bible verse given his seeming aversion to religion.

BillBailey1976
11-09-2017, 08:08 AM
Don't forget though, Don did do the hymn "Unclouded Day" on his debut solo album. So, even if he's opposed to religion, he obviously has some knowledge of it, albeit, seemingly only head knowledge.

My My
11-09-2017, 09:52 AM
Very true, BB. Still kind of ironic that all these years later "Be Still" would become such a popular inspirational quote. Maybe a "God wink" to Don...

Delilah
11-09-2017, 01:13 PM
I am not an expert on all things religious either, but Psalm 46:10 is "Be still and know that I am God..." Be still is a popular quote on inspirational items right now. The only reason I knew the verse was that I bought a pendant with "Be Still" on it for a friend whose husband is fighting a brain tumor. She wrote the entire verse out when she sent me a thank you note.


Thanks, My My, this is what I had in mind, although there are a couple of others. Also the lines about the sheep without a shepherd and wandering in the desert are Biblical references.



I was wondering if Henley even knew that it was a popular Bible verse given his seeming aversion to religion.


Don't forget though, Don did do the hymn "Unclouded Day" on his debut solo album. So, even if he's opposed to religion, he obviously has some knowledge of it, albeit, seemingly only head knowledge.

I read that he does not like organized religion due in part, at least, to the fire-and-brimstone sermons that he heard as a child. Plus he may have studied the Bible in one of his literature classes. It does appear he has some familiarity with the subject. He grew up in a small Bible Belt town as did I, so I’m not surprised.

sodascouts
11-11-2017, 03:21 PM
His grandmother's favorite hymn was "The Unclouded Day" and I daresay if he had a typical upbringing in a small Texas town in the 40s and 50s, then the family went to church on Sundays.

And he nicked the chorus of "The Sweet By-and-By" by Bennett in "The Sad Cafe." I always wondered why he wasn't included in the songwriting credits. Surely switching the order of the phrases isn't enough to make it "original."

However, one need not ever have attended church to be familiar with the Biblical imagery that characterizes Christ as a shepherd.

In this song, we see him condemn Christianity as false along with other things that people are seeking to fill the void in their lives, reducing Jesus to nothing but one more "wrong god" with "starry-eyed" delusions of grandeur.

The "be still" line is not a nod to the Bible he's just disavowed. It's his replacement for the Bible. Heaven is not where you go to be with God. "Heaven [is] lying at your feet." You don't need anything external like a "starry-eyed messiah" who will just "meet a violent farewell." If you could just look away from such a messiah and "awaken" - if you could just "learn to be still" instead, then you'd find happiness. Take heed and maybe "someday you will." That's the message of this song.

Note: The opinions expressed above are my interpretation of what Henley is trying to say - not my own opinions. Quite the opposite. I'm not a fan of the song.

sodascouts
11-11-2017, 07:03 PM
@Delilah -- We weren't one of the newspapers favored with an Azoff press release (too small. LOL.) However, when the entertainment writer at the Birmingham News got it from a friend, she freaked out and called our features department. That was in the days before we had voice mail, it was late afternoon, and I caught the phone call. "THE EAGLES ARE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!"

"Huh? What are you talking about, Mary?"

"The EAGLES! I got a fax from my buddy at the Denver paper from the Eagles' manager that said, 'Hell has frozen over'! What else could it mean?"

"Holy crap. Let us know if you hear anything else."

Lordy. I hadn't thought about that in YEARS. Lot of water under the bridge since then. He sent a follow-up in the next couple of days. She sent a copy of it, but our fax machine was a piece of crap and it was a fax of a fax of a fax and you could hardly read it. Still, I wish I'd kept it.

By the way, I didn't comment on this, but what a great memory - it blows my mind that she would know what Azoff meant without any more explanation! It just shows how big the band was - no more need be said!

Dawn
11-11-2017, 07:47 PM
His grandmother's favorite hymn was "The Unclouded Day" and I daresay if he had a typical upbringing in a small Texas town in the 40s and 50s, then the family went to church on Sundays.

And he nicked the chorus of "The Sweet By-and-By" by Bennett and Webster in "The Sad Cafe." I always wondered why they weren't included in the songwriting credits. Surely switching the order of the phrases isn't enough to make it "original."

However, one need not ever have attended church to be familiar with the Biblical imagery that characterizes Christ as a shepherd.

In this song, we see him condemn Christianity as false along with other things that people are seeking to fill the void in their lives, reducing Jesus to nothing but one more "wrong god" with "starry-eyed" delusions of grandeur.

The "be still" line is not a nod to the Bible he's just disavowed. It's his replacement for the Bible. Heaven is not where you go to be with God. "Heaven [is] lying at your feet." You don't need anything external like a "starry-eyed messiah" who will just "meet a violent farewell." If you could just look away from such a messiah and "awaken" - if you could just "learn to be still" instead, then you'd find happiness. Take heed and maybe "someday you will." That's the message of this song.

Note: The opinions expressed above are my interpretation of what Henley is trying to say - not my own opinions. Quite the opposite. I'm not a fan of the song.

Very interesting Soda, thanks for sharing your interpretation, thoughts and feelings.

FreyFollower
11-11-2017, 10:15 PM
It at once angers and saddens me when Don goes off on such tangents, (Fail Grasp, etc.), Seemingly blaming Christians and Americans in general for the actions of a few corrupt people. Greedy people have wrecked the environment. Some evil folks use religion to manipulate others. Loved ones suffer and die in this imperfect world. His anger and bitterness IMO is woefully misdirected.
I pray he finds the peace his dear grandmother knew was awaiting her when she sang "The Unclouded Day".

The Hell Freezes Over project, thankfully, shows how perceptions can change.

Pippinwhite
11-12-2017, 12:24 AM
I think it illustrates his disillusionment with organized religion. Many people have expressed serious reservations about that, while still remaining believers. I hope Don is in that camp. Grandchildren can really change people, though, let me tell you. Usually for the better. Made a former boss of mine act half-human! LOL.

Delilah
11-12-2017, 03:15 PM
His grandmother's favorite hymn was "The Unclouded Day" and I daresay if he had a typical upbringing in a small Texas town in the 40s and 50s, then the family went to church on Sundays.

And he nicked the chorus of "The Sweet By-and-By" by Bennett and Webster in "The Sad Cafe." I always wondered why they weren't included in the songwriting credits. Surely switching the order of the phrases isn't enough to make it "original."

Wow, I never made that connection, but you’re right. But it’s such an old song, perhaps it has fallen into public domain. Can’t make that excuse with The Long Run though, with much of the melody “borrowed” from Tryin to Live My Life Without You.



In this song, we see him condemn Christianity as false along with other things that people are seeking to fill the void in their lives, reducing Jesus to nothing but one more "wrong god" with "starry-eyed" delusions of grandeur.

The "be still" line is not a nod to the Bible he's just disavowed. It's his replacement for the Bible. Heaven is not where you go to be with God. "Heaven [is] lying at your feet." You don't need anything external like a "starry-eyed messiah" who will just "meet a violent farewell." If you could just look away from such a messiah and "awaken" - if you could just "learn to be still" instead, then you'd find happiness. Take heed and maybe "someday you will." That's the message of this song.

Note: The opinions expressed above are my interpretation of what Henley is trying to say - not my own opinions. Quite the opposite. I'm not a fan of the song.

I didn’t think he was espousing nor condemning Christianity. I just thought he was using these Biblical expressions as the premise for the song’s message and applying it to contemporary society. I’ll have to re-think this now. I find it sad that the 2 new songs he wrote for their 1st album in 14 years find him bitter and cynical (I’m not going to get into the hypocrisy of Get Over It).

Delilah
11-12-2017, 03:28 PM
I think it illustrates his disillusionment with organized religion. Many people have expressed serious reservations about that, while still remaining believers. I hope Don is in that camp. Grandchildren can really change people, though, let me tell you. Usually for the better. Made a former boss of mine act half-human! LOL.

Pippin, true about grandchildren. I find it telling that Don H is the only Eagle to return to his home state (and the Bible Belt part of it too) to live and raise his children. And he married a down-home Texas gal. Perhaps he is no longer rejecting his roots as much as he has in the past (and finding peace as FreyFollower states).

YoungEaglesFan
11-12-2017, 03:29 PM
I don’t think Don is calling out Christianity but is trying to make comparisons between our life and Christianity. I remember someone saying don had told Merle Haggard that the issue with today’s music is that “it’s gotten too far from the land and the church” (paraphrased). I know that could not be 100% literal but I think Don has an appreciation for religion and the values it preaches. I don’t think he cares about which religion but rather the lifestyle it fosters. Because he follows a lot of Thoreau and Emerson thinking, which isn’t exactly anti religion it preaches the individual and has some beliefs that aren’t compatiable with Christianity. I think he looks back to his childhood at church as part of his interest in literature and a childhood in which looks upon fondly. I think he looks at the lack of the church and community setting as a cause of social upheaval today. I could be wrong but that’s my take on it

shunlvswx
04-25-2018, 09:33 AM
Happy 24th Anniversary to the taping of Hell Freezes Over.

cosec3791
04-26-2018, 10:16 AM
tbh I really did not like HFO's new tracks that much. I only like Get Over It somewhat. I personally liked the concert more. One of the last unique setlists ever in their live performances, with rarities (for that time anyway), like Peaceful Easy Feeling, The Last Resort, Wasted Time (reprise) and In the City (which was exceptionally rare in the HFO tour). Good performances.

groupie2686
04-26-2018, 11:05 AM
Happy anniversary, HFO! I love the album and the concert. I don't know why people don't like the new songs on the album, I love all 4.

YoungEaglesFan
04-26-2018, 11:50 AM
I think Learn To Be still and Get Over It are very good songs. I think LWKUA is a pretty good song, and TGFY is ok. Not bad but it’s missing something. Wish we had more from them but it was still a solid effort

cosec3791
04-26-2018, 11:56 AM
Also to me, the rest of the tour's setlist was meh. Too many cliched songs for the most part. I really do not care about Love Will Keep Us Alive tbh. Such a common song, even today. I only really look forward to Hotel I really do not like Henley and Frey's solo stuff that much.

And the irritating thing about the tour is that every performance was recorded. Why? Because, basically every venue has pro shot (like Christchurch), but we will never get to see it. Nor will they ever release it. Like there are good concerts from HFO, like Irvine 1994, Giants Stadium 1994, Osaka 1995, Dublin 1996, etc. Argggghhh!!! Classic Eagles. And WalshFan, if you ever see this, trust me, you have never seen an awesome setlist then. There are way better ones than Eagles Live or Christchurch. Look at the link. These are examples of a brilliant setlist. Really wish we had footage (at least audience recordings) for these concerts. Trumps HFO completely tbh.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1977/tangerine-bowl-orlando-fl-63c5464f.html
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1977/jeppesen-stadium-houston-tx-73c54651.html
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1977/alpine-valley-music-theatre-east-troy-wi-63c5465b.html
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1979/capital-centre-landover-md-73c12649.html
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1979/the-omni-atlanta-ga-43df3ba3.html
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eagles/1980/university-arena-university-of-new-mexico-albuquerque-nm-7bc12664.html

BillBailey1976
04-27-2018, 12:41 PM
HFO has a special place in my heart. It was the reason I really got into the Eagles. As a High School kid, I fell in love with them during the VH1 showing of HFO, along with all the Eagles Family Tree stuff they showed, like the Don Kirshner stuff, and the South of Sunset marathon.
Then that was the first concert I saw, getting to see the live HFO tour.
Best moment was after seeing HFO on tv, I was expecting to never get to hear the original Hotel California. Talk about super pumped when the spot light came on, to DF playing the double neck...Great moment!!!

I really wish that next year for the 25th Anniversary they do one of the following
1. 3 CD set HFO 25th Anniversary + 2 Disc HFO Live tour (the HC release gives me hope)
2. 1 CD + DVD, 25th Anniversary HFO cd + Live HFO Tour Concert Video. (The Glenn Frey set coming out gives me hope for this)

cosec3791
04-27-2018, 01:30 PM
HFO has a special place in my heart. It was the reason I really got into the Eagles. As a High School kid, I fell in love with them during the VH1 showing of HFO, along with all the Eagles Family Tree stuff they showed, like the Don Kirshner stuff, and the South of Sunset marathon.
Then that was the first concert I saw, getting to see the live HFO tour.
Best moment was after seeing HFO on tv, I was expecting to never get to hear the original Hotel California. Talk about super pumped when the spot light came on, to DF playing the double neck...Great moment!!!

I really wish that next year for the 25th Anniversary they do one of the following
1. 3 CD set HFO 25th Anniversary + 2 Disc HFO Live tour (the HC release gives me hope)
2. 1 CD + DVD, 25th Anniversary HFO cd + Live HFO Tour Concert Video. (The Glenn Frey set coming out gives me hope for this)

(RANT INCOMING)



Lol the last hopeful paragraph

They will give us nothing. Because that's the Eagles for you. They have recorded every HFO show (obviously including both nights of the Burbank show) and still do to this present day. They even remastered some (like 1994 Giants Stadium, Dublin 1996, etc.) But nope, that's that. We will never get any again. I am 120% sure. Henley claiming there is nothing in the vault, all that is bull****. Such lying, especially when all of us want more. Heck they even apparently planned to release 1994 Irvine and 1999 Los Angeles, but nope, classic Eagles, not releasing stuff.

(Quite OT, sorry) Tbh, the Hotel 40th Anniversary release is pretty lame. Why can't they give something worthwhile for once?? We (okay maybe not everyone, but still). Don't. Want. Forum. 76. Again and again. And please. No overdubbing. They did it for the new release yet freaking again. They could've released to us: 1977 Nassau (Try and FREAKING Love Again was there!), 1977 Alpine Valley, 1977 London (April 28th had an orchestra apparently!)


Here's a thing Henley and Azoff. If you want us to stop bootlegging, RELEASE STUFF.

shunlvswx
10-26-2018, 10:30 AM
Happy 24th Birthday to the Hell Freezes Over special airing on MTV.

sodascouts
10-27-2018, 05:21 PM
The special that started it all back up again!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HELL FREEZES OVER TV PROGRAM!

New Kid In Town
10-27-2018, 05:29 PM
Wow, 24 years ! I remember how excited everyone was. I wish they would release an "Official day two" of the show. From what I have heard, it seems better than day one.

Brooke
10-29-2018, 11:47 AM
We were soooooo excited to see them back together and on tv! Didn't have the money to go to a show on the tour though. Our kids teenage years!

Ive always been a dreamer
10-29-2018, 11:56 AM
Yep - there will be lots of HFO events to celebrate in November. I never made it to a HFO concert either and it is one of my biggest regrets because it's the first time I ever actually tried to go to a show. I regret not going to a show back in the 70's as well, but not quite as much as HFO, because it was not even a possibility for me back then since I was dirt poor. However, with HFO, I tried my best to get to a show, but I was traveling full-time for work in the 90's and I just never could sync up schedule to match theirs. Oh well - I tried to make up for it starting in 2003 so I can complain (but sometimes I still do). :ziplip:

shunlvswx
10-29-2018, 12:49 PM
The HFO era was my teenage years so I definitely wasn't able to go especially with my mother being very strict with me listening anything that's not black music and (long story, but I'm just glad I listen to different genres).

I fell in love with the Eagles back then and then stopped listening to them into the millennium, but I only had a few of their songs on my MP3 player between 2000-2013.

sodascouts
10-29-2018, 10:16 PM
Shun, my parents were strict too - only it was no non-Christian concerts at all!

I enjoyed watching the Hell Freezes Over concert on television, but it never even occurred to me to actually go to a show myself.

My, how things have changed!

shunlvswx
10-29-2018, 10:35 PM
I should had said my mother wouldn't allow me to go to "white artist" concerts. Yeah. My mother was that strict. I actually was listening to other genres around the time the Eagles got back together, I just couldn't go to certain concerts. When I was in high school and I was starting to listen to other genres, I was ashamed to say I listen to other genres that wasn't R&B or rap. That has changed thank goodness.

shunlvswx
11-08-2018, 01:55 PM
Happy 24th Birthday to the Hell Freezes Over album. I kinda hate that they stopped playing Get Over It and The Girl From Yesterday after the tour ends. I would loved to hear Get Over It again.

sodascouts
11-16-2018, 07:44 PM
Same here. Those were great songs. Very underrated.

captainnemo
11-17-2018, 06:21 PM
They just removed the album from Spotify! :( I really like the live songs on there... especially LITFL where you can hear that bass!

sodascouts
11-20-2018, 05:56 PM
They just removed the album from Spotify! :( I really like the live songs on there... especially LITFL where you can hear that bass!

What the..?? BOO!!!

I wonder if it has something to do with Legacy?

EaglesFan86
11-29-2018, 10:20 PM
I just got the DVD and CD of Hell Freezes Over earlier this year and it wasn't until I watched the documentary History Of The Eagles that I remembered seeing it on television with my parents. I was around 7-8 years old at the time and thought it was cool and that I liked the two lead singers Don & Glenn but didn't think much else of it other than I liked it because I loved music even at an early age

sodascouts
12-03-2018, 12:34 AM
I just got the DVD and CD of Hell Freezes Over earlier this year and it wasn't until I watched the documentary History Of The Eagles that I remembered seeing it on television with my parents. I was around 7-8 years old at the time and thought it was cool and that I liked the two lead singers Don & Glenn but didn't think much else of it other than I liked it because I loved music even at an early age

So you just got them recently! What do you think of them now - like them any better?

shunlvswx
04-25-2019, 11:55 AM
Happy 25th Anniversary to the taping of Hell Freezes Over. I can't believe its now been 25 years.

shunlvswx
10-27-2019, 12:05 AM
Happy 25th Birthday to the HFO special airing on MTV.

Ive always been a dreamer
10-27-2019, 11:19 AM
Thanks for reviving this thread, shun. Actually, the official anniversary of the MTV special airing was yesterday. But, it is hard to believe this is the 25th anniversary year of hell freezing over. There are so many events to celebrate for the resumption starting with the taping of the special in the spring of 1994. A lot of events to celebrate next month as well.

shunlvswx
10-27-2019, 12:30 PM
Actually. I did post it yesterday. It was still the 26th when I post it.

But i can't believe it is 25 years. I wish i was able to go to the shows back then. I was a closet fan until 2013.

sodascouts
10-29-2019, 09:41 PM
25 years. Incredible. Back then I had no clue how big a part the Eagles would play in my life!

groupie2686
10-30-2019, 10:15 AM
I was a kid when this came out and I didn't become an eagles fan until many years later, but I remember my mom playing the CD (or maybe it was a tape back then!) in the car all the time. I remember being confused about the 4 different voices, how was that the same band!

New Kid In Town
11-01-2019, 05:24 PM
I was a kid when this came out and I didn't become an eagles fan until many years later, but I remember my mom playing the CD (or maybe it was a tape back then!) in the car all the time. I remember being confused about the 4 different voices, how was that the same band!

CA - Lol ! That makes sense though. I recall an interview with Glenn back in the 80's. He called the Eagles a "faceless" band because most people did not know what they looked like as they never put their pictures on their album(except for Desperado in the cowboy gear) and did not give a lot of interviews. Back in the day I think you had to be a die hard fan to know what they all looked like. This was before MTV and 24/7 coverage. By the time HFO came along it had been almost 14 years and people forgot what they looked like but of course never forgot the songs.

Ive always been a dreamer
11-02-2019, 11:28 AM
Yeah groupie - I think the fact that they always had 4 lead vocalists is one of the things that made the Eagles so special - that is a real rarity for bands.

And, as far as their looks in 1994, I had followed Don and Glenn throughout their solo careers, so my only real shock is that I thought they both looked the best they ever had. To me, Timothy looked pretty much the same that I remembered him from the 70's, but Joe and Felder were the most shocking to me - I hardly recognized either of them. Felder had really cleaned up and Joe went from major rock star to college professor. :shock:

Elle81
04-04-2021, 05:49 PM
I was finally able to buy this album. I've loved it since it was released and just could never afford it. However last week while at Walmart, I saw this on their discount rack. I gasped and said very loudly "No Way!" I almost started to cry. So yes I paid the eleven dollars for it. 27 long years, and now I finally have a copy.:partytime:

sodascouts
04-04-2021, 07:29 PM
Congratulations - enjoy!

Elle81
04-05-2021, 10:57 PM
Congratulations - enjoy!
Thanks! I will. :D

New Kid In Town
04-06-2021, 08:54 AM
Yeah groupie - I think the fact that they always had 4 lead vocalists is one of the things that made the Eagles so special - that is a real rarity for bands.

And, as far as their looks in 1994, I had followed Don and Glenn throughout their solo careers, so my only real shock is that I thought they both looked the best they ever had. To me, Timothy looked pretty much the same that I remembered him from the 70's, but Joe and Felder were the most shocking to me - I hardly recognized either of them. Felder had really cleaned up and Joe went from major rock star to college professor. :shock:

Dreamer - I agree. I was literally shocked when I saw Don F. in the Travis T. video - I could not believe he was the same guy ! The only looks I did not like on Don & Glenn were when Don had that very long hair and Glenn's crewcut. Compared to what Joe looked like a few years before, he looked amazing. I had no idea he wore glasses - lol ! I thought Tim pretty much looked the same. I thought they all looked great considering their 70's life style.

Ive always been a dreamer
04-09-2021, 04:57 PM
I thought they all looked great considering their 70's life style.

Amen! That's the bottom line, ain't it? :thumbsup: