Eagles Mentions in the Press (2006 - 2017)

[Ive always been a dreamer]

That is an interesting find, UTW - don't remember seeing this before. Can't even imagine Joe retiring now - much less back then.

[buffyfan145]

Just saw this article on Entertainment Weekly with Richard Linklater, the director of "Dazed and Confused", "Boyhood", and others, and he posted more of his playlist he used to help make his recent movie "Everybody Wants Some!!" which included "I Can't Tell You Why". :D The movie is set in 1980 and he calls it a spiritual sequel to "Dazed and Confused" as it takes place 4 years later and is about a college baseball team (some of the freshman characters in the first film were baseball players). I haven't seen the film yet but will soon once it's out on DVD but I have noticed just from the film's trailer and posters the guys in the film have similar hairstyles to the Eagles "Long Run" era. I have heard it's got a lot of songs from the late 70s and 1980 as well in the movie but nice to see at least one Eagles song made it. Apparently his full playlist had over 200 songs on it.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/23/everybody-wants-some-richard-linklater-alternate-80s-soundtrack

[Eagles7]

That is an interesting find, UTW - don't remember seeing this before. Can't even imagine Joe retiring now - much less back then.

Well, this was a year or so after his daughter's death..I believe all of that changed Joe for the next 20 years.

[UndertheWire]

Back in January there were a few mean-spirited articles about the Eagles. I've just read a well-written blog in thatexplains why one of these was wrong in nearly every aspect, so I'll share.

http://culturecatch.com/music/glenn-frey-eagles

The second, is someone comparing the reactions to the deaths of Bowie and Prince with Glenn. Although I disagree with many of the descriptions and phrases, the premise is interesting. He suggests that Bowie and Prince had more cultural impact because they were "other" whereas the Eagles were what was expected and therefore, Bowie and Prince were more likely to have changed lives.

http://www.thepublicprofessor.com/prince-bowie-and-glenn-frey-21st-century-public-mourning-as-a-rejection-of-cold-war-culture-or-why-nobody-really-gives-a-shit-about-that-guy-from-the-eagles/

[Freypower]

And in all of that, Glenn himself, the man & the musician, is utterly lost. He was according to that just a member of a band that made music.

I understood the first article to some extent. I hated the second. 'Why nobody really cares about that guy from the Eagles' indeed.

The man himself said 'people did things to the Eagles'. Ordinary people who weren't obsessed with being 'different' had their lives enriched by the band and I had my life immeasurably enriched by Glenn Frey and HIS music.

I dislike the term 'silent majority' as it always seems to be used by political conservatives who object to any kind of change & seem to take it for granted that the majority agree with them. In this case, however, there was a very large number of people who loved the Eagles & perhaps felt that somehow their lives were changed, even if they didn't go out & start revolutions.

[sodascouts]

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The man himself said 'people did things to the Eagles'. Ordinary people who weren't obsessed with being 'different' had their lives enriched by the band and I had my life immeasurably enriched by Glenn Frey and HIS music.


A-FREAKING-MEN.

[GlennLover]

A-FREAKING-MEN.

I'll second that!!!

[UndertheWire]

One final link. It's on a Beatles-related blog and although it's ostensibly about Glenn, it has stories about other Eagles, especially Randy and Joe.
http://beatleshistorian.com/?p=310


The inclusion of Timothy B. Schmit into the 1992 tour of Ringo’s All-Starr Band (http://amzn.to/1SazVtw) reflects a most unusual irony. Eagles’ co-founder Randy Meisner was the bass player for Poco; when he left Poco in 1970, he was replaced by Timothy B. Schmit. When Mesiner left The Eagles in 1977, coincidentally his replacement was none other than Timothy B. Schmit. What the music world does not know is that Randy Meisner was actually a member of Buffalo Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY), too. He was hired as the bass player, but a month or so later the band broke up. The original Eagles bassist practiced with Buffalo Springfield during that time, but the band broke up in 1968 before Randy Meisner could appear on an album or in concert. Believe it or not, a very young Timothy B. Schmit also auditioned for the position with Buffalo Springfield that ultimately went to Meisner right before the famed group disbanded.

[NightMistBlue]

Holy cow, Joe played guitar on Andy Gibb's "(Love Is) Thicker Than Water"?! Did not know that. Maybe they interacted at Criteria Studios. Felder mentioned in his book that he got to know and like the Gibb brothers, particularly Barry.

Thank you Utw for referring us to that blog.

[sodascouts]

Thanks for that!

[Funk 50]

Thanks UTW, I enjoyed reading that. Interesting that Randy had been pencilled in to join Buffalo Springfield.

I can't believe they didn't mention Ringo and Joe's, 1981 Old Wave album. Joe was also at The Beatles Shea Stadium gig.I think Henley attended a The Beatles gig too.

There must be more number one hits, featuring one or more Eagles, although none come immediately to mind.

Did Wilson Phillips Hold On reach number one? Joe played on that too

I hope it's not a final link. :thumbsup:

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Looks like UTW has been doing some homework this week. Thank you for these links. As usual - WELL DONE!!! :thumbsup:


The man himself said 'people did things to the Eagles'. Ordinary people who weren't obsessed with being 'different' had their lives enriched by the band and I had my life immeasurably enriched by Glenn Frey and HIS music.

Ditto from me too!

Abso-freakin'-lutely!!!

[thelastresort]

Take It Easy claims Number 8 spot in this month's Classic Rock Magazine's 25 Greatest Country Rock Songs, ranking behind Metallica, naturally. (Mama Said for anyone wondering.) The top three in reverse order are Dead Flowers by The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd's The Ballad of Curtis Loew, and Ramblin' Man by The Allman Brothers Band.

The magazine has previously featured a Top 100 Albums of the Seventies special, which featured not one entry for either the Eagles, Joe Walsh, or any album with which any Eagle has featured (to the best of my knowledge, something TBS, Joe or Felder played on could well have slipped my attention).

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for posting this, TLR.

I have to say I'm not usually a fan of the magazine's lists. Once again, they predictably place obscure songs that many have never even heard above true classics that are almost universally loved. Go figure! :shrug:

[Jonny Come Lately]

Take It Easy claims Number 8 spot in this month's Classic Rock Magazine's 25 Greatest Country Rock Songs, ranking behind Metallica, naturally. (Mama Said for anyone wondering.) The top three in reverse order are Dead Flowers by The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd's The Ballad of Curtis Loew, and Ramblin' Man by The Allman Brothers Band.

The magazine has previously featured a Top 100 Albums of the Seventies special, which featured not one entry for either the Eagles, Joe Walsh, or any album with which any Eagle has featured (to the best of my knowledge, something TBS, Joe or Felder played on could well have slipped my attention).

I trust that when they do their '25 Greatest Heavy Metal Songs' list, Enter Sandman will claim number 8 spot, ranking behind Out Of Control, naturally. :wink:

We can dream!

I think a common problem with lists of the best folk/country rock or acoustic rock songs is they are too generous to bands who don't specialise in these styles. I sometimes get a feeling the compilers think along the lines 'I like this song, and it has pedal steel in it, let's include it!'. This is perhaps a bit unfair or me to say given that I haven't seen the list myself, but the Metallica inclusion makes me think this. The Eagles would certainly have topped my list rather than Ramblin' Man, which is definitely not the best country rock song IMO. It does have great harmonised guitars but I don't think is that strong or memorable a song (it does the 'rock' part well, the 'country' part, which is probably more important on a list like this, less so). In fairness I love The Ballad of Curtis Loew, and I think the inclusion of The Stones is understandable (country was a big influence on them - this is why I thought it was a good idea for Don to get Mick Jagger to appear on Cass County), although my first guess for them would have been Wild Horses rather than Dead Flowers.

As for the Top 100 albums list - nothing at all? Each to their own I guess, but I can't say I agree!

[thelastresort]

I trust that when they do their '25 Greatest Heavy Metal Songs' list, Enter Sandman will claim number 8 spot, ranking behind Out Of Control, naturally. :wink:

We can dream!

I think a common problem with lists of the best folk/country rock or acoustic rock songs is they are too generous to bands who don't specialise in these styles. I sometimes get a feeling the compilers think along the lines 'I like this song, and it has pedal steel in it, let's include it!'. This is perhaps a bit unfair or me to say given that I haven't seen the list myself, but the Metallica inclusion makes me think this. The Eagles would certainly have topped my list rather than Ramblin' Man, which is definitely not the best country rock song IMO. It does have great harmonised guitars but I don't think is that strong or memorable a song (it does the 'rock' part well, the 'country' part, which is probably more important on a list like this, less so). In fairness I love The Ballad of Curtis Loew, and I think the inclusion of The Stones is understandable (country was a big influence on them - this is why I thought it was a good idea for Don to get Mick Jagger to appear on Cass County), although my first guess for them would have been Wild Horses rather than Dead Flowers.

As for the Top 100 albums list - nothing at all? Each to their own I guess, but I can't say I agree!

I always have maintained Out of Control was the closest the Eagles ever got to heavy metal!

There are also entries for Elvis Costello and the Attractions (Good Year for the Roses), Kings of Leon (Wasted Time), Pink Floyd (Country Song (The Red Queen Theme)) and Led Zeppelin (Hot Dog), and though Zep did have some folky moments none of those are renowned for their contributions to country rock; meanwhile you have the likes of Poco and even CS&N (Young makes it to Number 4 with Are You Ready for the Country) with nothing to show, when both were pretty big names in the 70s folk-country rock scenes. I also expected Wild Horses for the Rolling Stones, but agree they are worthy of their place.

I will revisit the 100 Albums issue when I get a chance but I'm fairly certain there was no Eagles / solo input into any of them.

[Jonny Come Lately]

The Eagles are again represented in a country rock-related Classic Rock list, this time a list of the 10 Essential Country Rock albums. Their choice, believe it or not, is Hotel California...

Tim is also represented on this list, as Poco's Crazy Eyes also makes their top ten. You can read their comments and see the rest of the list here:

http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-04/the-10-essential-country-rock-albums

As great an album as HC is, I can't help but think that any of the earlier albums would fit in better on this list. What is strange is that their comments focus on the arrival of Joe and departure of Bernie. Desperado would be my choice.

[buffyfan145]

I saw that article and the only thing I could think of as to why they chose "Hotel California" was if they're talking about today's country music. The country genre has so many different sounds to it now with the younger artists mixing in sounds from rock, pop, hip hop, alternative rock, and R&B. I know a lot of traditional country fans don't like it but I have no issue with it since I listen to all those genres anyway. I do know a lot of younger country artists in their 20s & 30s include the Eagles as an influence and do list "Hotel California" as an album that influences them. Joe is even an influence himself on the younger country artists/guitarists as well, and I've actually heard some recent 80s sounding country songs that sound like what Don or Glenn would've had out in the 80s.

But I agree for country-rock it should have been "Desperado".

[UndertheWire]

There's a passing reference to the band in this article about a couple of record business people who are raising funds to mount orchestral extravaganzas based on the music of classic rock bands. I think Henley and Azoff will be more inclined to put together their own show where they have creative control and a larger share of the profits (eg the musical). Anyway, it's interesting to see how the music might be exploited in the future.


Now that their fans have demonstrated a willingness to snap up $1,000 seats, the live-music industry is trying to figure out what to offer them next. But banking on the participation of any one act appears increasingly risky, especially given the unexpected deaths this year of artists such as Eagles co-founder Glenn Frey, rocker David Bowie and pop star Prince.
“We’re getting old,” Eagles manager Irving Azoff said at a panel event earlier this week, noting that four of his management clients, including Mr. Frey, had died.

Mr. Konowitch said the idea for RockmaniaLive was born several years ago when a group of booking-agency heads and promoters warned him against managing certain classic rock acts because it wasn’t clear how much longer they could tour.
He began researching the economics of symphonic tribute shows, which he discovered could reliably draw as many as 6,000 fans thanks to their nostalgia for the music and loyalty to their local orchestras—no matter how clumsy or “cheesy” the production, he said.

To help line up some initial individual investors—whom Mr. Konowitch declined to disclose—he hired Grammy-winning producer Rob Cavallo, known for his work with punk’s Green Day and rock’s Dave Matthews Band, and composer David Campbell, the father of Beck, to arrange classic-rock albums for orchestras that will perform alongside carefully cast guitarists, bassists and drummers. Vocalists will sing on only a few of the songs in a given show, in front of giant screens displaying elaborate visual effects. http://www.wsj.com/articles/rockmanialive-to-mount-live-orchestral-concerts-of-iconic-bands-1475208061

Reading that last paragraph, it sound like just the kind of show that Don Felder is taking part in next summer.

[UndertheWire]

Billboard has a list of groups where two or more of the members have had top-40 hits.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7541849/beatles-nsync-one-direction-groups-solo-hits

What I noticed is that only two of the groups had four or more members who had solo hits. One is The Beatles.

[FWIW]

Billboard has a list of groups where two or more of the members have had top-40 hits.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7541849/beatles-nsync-one-direction-groups-solo-hits

What I noticed is that only two of the groups had four or more members who had solo hits. One is The Beatles.
And only one group had 5 members with solo top-40 hits :)

Thanks for the link UtW. It is very impressive that each member of the Beatles had a #1 hit.

[sodascouts]

Very interesting - our band really is special.

[Eagles7]

Don Felder and Joe Walsh named as 3rd greatest guitar solo for HC. Congrats Guys!

http://www.kshe95.com/news/real-rock-news/jimmy-page-david-gilmour-and-don-felder-joe-walsh-top-greatest-guitar-solo-list

[Eagles7]

Here's another- History of the Real Seven Bridges Road including interviews with The late Steve Young, author of that beautiful song.

http://primemontgomery.com/?p=14787

[Delilah]

Billboard has a list of groups where two or more of the members have had top-40 hits.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7541849/beatles-nsync-one-direction-groups-solo-hits

What I noticed is that only two of the groups had four or more members who had solo hits. One is The Beatles.

And Don Felder barely missed it--his "Heavy Metal (Takin' a Ride)" peaked at #43 in 1981.

Thanks for the article, UTW; it confirms what I suspected--that the Eagles had more members with solo success than most of their contemporaries. It definitely reflects the depth of talent within the band (although I realize chart success is only one indicator of talent).

[Eagles7]

A ver special group indeed. Too bad Heavy Metal didn't bump up two slots. Then we'd have six Top 40 guys! I don't recall Timothy's Top 40 hi. I need to go take a listen on YouTube. That was an interesting article. Thank you for posting.

[Jonny Come Lately]

Don Felder and Joe Walsh named as 3rd greatest guitar solo for HC. Congrats Guys!

http://www.kshe95.com/news/real-rock-news/jimmy-page-david-gilmour-and-don-felder-joe-walsh-top-greatest-guitar-solo-list

Very well deserved! It's an absolute classic for sure. From a personal point of view I'm pretty pleased with the top three, which covers my three favourite bands. It's not a very original list, mind you. Almost as soon as I saw the headline I thought 'I wonder which two songs they went for by those guitarists? I can probably guess...' The results were every bit as (un)surprising as I expected!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Billboard has a list of groups where two or more of the members have had top-40 hits.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7541849/beatles-nsync-one-direction-groups-solo-hits

What I noticed is that only two of the groups had four or more members who had solo hits. One is The Beatles.

Yep - that is quite impressive! Let's hear it for the boys! :yay:

[buffyfan145]

That's awesome!!! :D Interesting seeing all those other groups listed as well as it was more than I thought.

[Delilah]

Don Felder and Joe Walsh named as 3rd greatest guitar solo for HC. Congrats Guys!

http://www.kshe95.com/news/real-rock-news/jimmy-page-david-gilmour-and-don-felder-joe-walsh-top-greatest-guitar-solo-list

I didn't mean to overlook this, but CONGRATULATIONS TO DON AND JOE!!!:rockguitar:

Well-deserved, they're in good company and they definitely have earned their place in musical history!

[WalshFan88]

Some of that list is right on, others not so much. Maybe I should do a thread about that in the "other music" section.

But absolutely HC should be there in the top 3 if not number 1!

The guitar department of the Eagles is often overlooked by their amazing vocal skills but those two guys knew how to tear it up and really make great rock n' roll music and with Glenn on rhythm (most of the time although he was a fine soloist), they were as much as a three guitar army as Lynyrd Skynyrd was. It's just that most people are more concerned with the harmonies, vocals, and lyrics. But you don't have to tell me that the Eagles were blessed with some of the very best guitar players of the 70s. They really should be in the same breath as Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Richards, Joe Perry, Slash, Jeff Beck, Eddie Van Halen, etc. For some, they are. For others, they are simply but sadly overlooked. Not by me. ;)

[UndertheWire]

Very few hit singles are instrumentals, so it makes sense that a group with multiple lead singers is more likely to have members who have "solo" hits.

In the Billboard list, the Genesis entry should probably include Mike Rutherford whose group, Mike + the Mechanics had two #10 hits in the US. Maybe he was excluded because he didn't sing.

[UndertheWire]

I have found a lot of interviews with Phil Kenzie where he talks about the Long Run tour. I've posted some links to youtube audio interviews in the supporting musicians threads, but as this is text, I can just post the Eagles part so it's about the band rather than Phil.


R.V.B. - Is there any performances in your day that really stand out where you really thoroughly enjoyed yourself?

P.K. - Oh gosh, the biggest has to be the first two gigs with The Eagles. That was the most magnificent tour. The Eagles were making so much money. They had been voted the most popular band in America. They had their whole touring thing down, whereby their backline and everything had to be provided by the promoter. All they showed up with was their guitar guys and their guitar pick. Their uniform on stage was, wear a white shirt and a pair of blue jeans... that was it. There were two stadiums of equal size. One of them was the Giants stadium. They were just told flat out by Azoff... he said "Look, you're making so much money here. If you don't spend some of this money, it's going straight to the government. You're gonna pay it all in tax." They said "Right, we better spend it then, haven't we?" So they just started spending money lavishly on that tour. I spoke to Felder later and said "You guys spoiled me", and he said "We spoiled ourselves. It's never been like that since." They broke up at the end of that tour. They spent money like water on that tour. Every hotel I was in... and I was just the sax player... an add on as it were, but I was in a suite with a great big table full of flowers. Any kind of booze I wanted, and whatever else I wanted... matches with my name on it. You name it, it was there.

R.V.B. - That's really living the life of a rock star.

P.K. - More than that because, Rod was the life of a rock star at his level. I asked "How are we getting to the gigs?" This was in New York. I think back now when I saw the Twin Towers go down and I remember us being at Windows of the World. You couldn't get in that place... it was booked for a year. God knows how much money it took, they just had a party their one night.

R.V.B. - Money wasn't an option.

P.K. - No, "How much does it cost to throw everybody out?" They just bought the restaurant for a night. So I said "How are we getting to the gig?" and they said "You'll see... just be down in the lobby at such and such time." So I go down to the lobby, and I see these great big limos. "Are we driving there in the limos?" We drove down to the Hudson river and they had six helicopters. We jumped in these helicopters and started roaring off like Apocalypse Now. I was in the helicopter with Joe Walsh, and he was just yelling all kind of things out of the window. We buzzed things... we went under the Brooklyn Bridge. We buzzed the Empire State Building. I thought "Who's been paid off to let us do this?" Coming back, we went down Broadway at 200 feet in six helicopters.

R.V.B. - Holy crap.

P.K. - Coming out to Giants Stadium we landed with search lights right in the middle of the fucking stadium. So it was wild.

R.V.B. - That's some crazy rock and roll stories.

P.K. - Everything on the tour happened like that. We stayed at The Playboy Club up in Illinois. We stayed on the Queen Mary in Long Beach. It was the most luxurious tour I've ever been on. Rod's was not to be sneezed at either. We did some wild things on Rod's tour, but nothing like The Eagles was. We had a private 707 jet, that was black with a red underbelly. It was all gutted inside with nothing but armchairs and your personal TV's.

R.V.B. - How long was that tour?

P.K. - It wasn't that long. I didn't come in at the beginning of it. The reason I got the gig was because Davis Sanborn had been one of the guys who played on the record with them, and he became ill. There was a lot of drug usage in those days and David was rather susceptible at the time to getting addictive habits. He became obsessed with cocaine at the time.

R.V.B. - That was they heyday time period.

P.K. - The cocaine on that tour was amazing. They had to have a rule, that you don't do it before you go on stage. There was just phenomenal amounts of cocaine there. Not only did everyone have a suite in the hotel, but they also had a spare suite for partying so nobody was kept up. On the ladies side of things they had three E buttons. I said "What are those?" The third encore. "What do you mean, where is a third encore?" They said "Back at the hotel." So the guys were all running around handing these buttons out to girls who wanted to be with The Eagles. So you walked into the spare suite and there were hundreds of girls in there.

R.V.B. - Did that kind of stuff go on with Rod also?

P.K. - Not to the same degree. Not that there weren't people around but it just wasn't as luxurious. The Eagles were making phenomenal money. With Rod... they were upset when I was going out. The first two gigs I did with the Eagles... I think Rod had made two million on the whole tour and that was the whole world. The Eagles made nearly a million bucks on the first two gigs.

R.V.B. - I heard a story that some rich guy in the Hampton's out here by me paid them a million bucks to play one private party.

P.K. - The first two gigs. There guarantee was 400,000 against 60% of the gate. They broke the gates on each one. The gate was worked out to 60,000 as the break even figure. They had 72 or 73,000 in each stadium. As we finished, and the promoter handed the check... Felder turns to me and shows me this check for $986,000.

R.V.B. - That's a pretty nice payday.

P.K. - I had only been on the tour for two days. Nice. He goes "Thinking of asking for a raise?" I go "You're damn right." (Hahaha)

R.V.B. - You know it just goes to shoe though that something had to break. That lifestyle can't go on forever without problems happening.

P.K. - Well of course. You can't take the kind of pressure... and the personalities. They were all very talented people and talented writers. There was always that element of, well whose really the best. Even with Randy Meisner that happened. I said "Why did he leave?" to Don Felder and he said "Well, he wrote Take It To The Limit, and he decided he was a songwriting genius." I said "Is he?" and he said "He's gone off to prove it." A similar thing happened... Henley went off and had his personal stardom bid and so did Glenn Frey. Joe kind of floated in and out. Joe was always going through problems, especially in the early 80's with again, an addictive personality. Booze was his big problem. He almost drank himself to death at one point. I remember talking to Felder and he had said to Irv Azoff... this is later in the 80's, "I'm really worried about Joe. What can we do?" Azoff apparently turned around and said "You're worried? He's living at my house. (haha) I'm taking care of him on a daily basis."http://musicguy247.typepad.com/my-blog/2015/02/phil-kenzie-interview.html

And more from the same interview:


R.V.B. - I like the sax playing in the song Sea Cruise... the way it carries the song along.

P.K. - It's funny that you should say Sea Cruise. Guess what I played with The Eagles when they came as the first encore? There's a picture of me playing Sea Cruise and Glenn Frey, when he went out there being from Detroit, he wanted to appear like the sax guy, even though he doesn't play sax. there's a picture of him holding my alto and me playing tenor playing Sea Cruise together.

R.V.B. - Who sang that one?

P.K. - Glenn did... it was his idea. He wanted to do it. He thought it would be really killer to do as an encore.

[Funk 50]

Thanks UTW. I read the whole interview. Enjoyable and informative. I knew nothing about Phil Kenzie, apart from he played the fabulous alto on The Long Run from the Eagles Live album. Very surprised to learn that he's from Merseyside. A few little subliminal insights into Felder too. :p

[UndertheWire]

Here's some more. My guess is that what he thought was the Eagles site was a fan site.


Phil: It’s so funny because with the Eagles, I was actually right in the middle there when they broke up for the first time. I was right between Glenn Frey and Don Felder when they were about to have a punch out; literally to punch each other to bits. At a point where Don Felder actually seized a Gibson guitar and smashed it to pieces so that all he had in his hand was the neck with the big club like end where it joins the body and would have probably decked Glenn Frey with it, had Glenn Frey dared to go one foot closer to him. I was right in the middle of that. Pieces of the guitar actually hit me (laughs) as he was kind of splintering it.

Firmly enough, that same little bridge that they were trying to depart the stage from at the moment that happened was the same bridge I was trying to get on to get on the stage. This was all at the Long Beach Arena, down there where we were doing a benefit for Senator Cranston. I don’t think it was the last gig of the tour actually. That’s when they broke up right then. They were literally threatening and screaming at each other.

That particular venue was when I was trying to get on the stage and the security guard mysteriously decided he was going to stop me. I was standing there with a saxophone around my neck, but what do you think this is? (laughs) I’m supposed to be on the stage. They actually had a recording going on at the desk and they have actually posted it recently on the Eagles site. And you can actually hear Glenn Frey on stage going, “Oh, we’re gonna do this next number and we need Phil. Where is Phil?” Then he goes, “Oh Phil.” Then he goes, “Oh here he is, here’s Phil.”

I eventually pulled my way past security and got on stage. And they put every bit of it on the site and of course I go on to play the “Long Run” with them and scream on that. And I thought, of all the tracks they could have put on, that’s the one they put on. And then right next to it, they put the only version I’ve ever heard in my life of my playing the what was touted to be the David Sanborn solo on “Sad Cafe.” And I played that live.

The thing was they found out that David was in very bad shape at that time. He recovered later, but that’s why they had to let him go off this tour because he was messed up on cocaine at the time. Later, he recovered.

And Felder said – Don was a friend of mine, “Well you see, the thing is; David never played the solo.” And I said, “What do you mean?” And he said, “Well, we had him down in Florida for three days; we walked him in the city about three days and he played bits of it.” He said, “And he just wasn’t in a great shape, so we sent him home and then we pieced the solo together from the bits he played. I said, “Are you serious?” He said, “That’s why when we put him on the stage, he couldn’t remember what he played because he never played it.” I said, “Oh, so I have to learn what he never played”. He said “Yeah.”

When I played it on stage, I was the only person that did play it – actually played it as it was on the record from front to back. And they recorded it and put it on their site. That’s the first time I’ve heard “Sad Cafe” with a saxophone solo like that actually played live and recorded. It was amazing to me that they would make that choice as well at this time in my life. Of all the tracks they could have put up there, they put those two. Both of them were with me on.http://musicenthusiastmag.com/phil-kenzie-a-night-with-the-cat-2015-interview/

[Delilah]

Very few hit singles are instrumentals, so it makes sense that a group with multiple lead singers is more likely to have members who have "solo" hits.

In the Billboard list, the Genesis entry should probably include Mike Rutherford whose group, Mike + the Mechanics had two #10 hits in the US. Maybe he was excluded because he didn't sing.

I dunno. True, the odds increase with multiple lead singers but KISS, Pink Floyd, Queen, Steely Dan, the Beach Boys all had multiple lead singers with less than stellar solo success, at least in the U.S.

Mike Rutherford was probably excluded b/c Mike + the Mechanics was a band, not a solo act.

[UndertheWire]

Mike Rutherford was probably excluded b/c Mike + the Mechanics was a band, not a solo act.
Maybe, but they've included duets and bands featuring the artist, so I think as the "Mike" in the band name, it should count. It's not as if the solo artists don't have bands backing them.

[Funk 50]

I dunno. True, the odds increase with multiple lead singers but KISS, Pink Floyd, Queen, Steely Dan, the Beach Boys all had multiple lead singers with less than stellar solo success, at least in the U.S.

Mike Rutherford was probably excluded b/c Mike + the Mechanics was a band, not a solo act.

Mike Rutherford did have a solo hit, at least here in the UK, I bought it. I found it, cut price in the ex-chart singles basket so I reckon it charted. It certainly got played on the radio.

Before he formed Mike And The Mechanics, Mike Rutherford released two solo albums, Smallcreeps Day featuring Noel McCalla on vocals and Acting Very Strange, his only attempt at doing the lead vocals himself. It was a wise move, one that Felder should follow, to put a band, with great lead vocalists, together.

Working In Line was a great single. I always included it on my home-made Genesis cassettes. On the album it's part of a suite of tracks, and imho it doesn't work as well. I loved the B-side Compression too.
I've just discovered that my other two favourite tracks from Smallcreeps Day, Time And Time Again and At The End Of The Day made up the A and B side of a single too but I expect that never charted.

Reminds me of when I bought Life In The Fast Lane as an ex-chart single. I really wasn't that keen on the song but I bought it because Walsh's name was on it. That's when I discovered The Last Resort. The whole seven minutes plus masterpiece on the b-side. When I finally bought the Hotel California LP, Try And Love Again and Wasted Time (reprise) were the only tracks I was unfamiliar with.

Thanks again for the Phil Kenzie stuff UTW. Always great on hear another side of the story. I'm going to make a point of listening to the onstage banter between the band members on the Eagles live album. :bye:

[sodascouts]

I have found a lot of interviews with Phil Kenzie where he talks about the Long Run tour. I've posted some links to youtube audio interviews in the supporting musicians threads, but as this is text, I can just post the Eagles part so it's about the band rather than Phil.
http://musicguy247.typepad.com/my-blog/2015/02/phil-kenzie-interview.html

And more from the same interview:

Thank you so much for that, UTW. What a fascinating read! Wow, my mind is freaking blown. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall (or in the helicopter lol).

[UndertheWire]

It looks like one leg of The Long Run Tour ended on March 7, 1980 and the next started on June 14, 1980 at Yale, followed by the Giants Stadium on 15th June. That must be when Phil Kenzie joined.

[chaim]

Thanks for the Phil Kenzie interview!

[NightMistBlue]

Yes, thank you. What an amazing career that guy has had. May I quote one bit about the Eagles:
"They were all very talented people and talented writers. There was always that element of, well who's really the best. Even with Randy Meisner that happened. I said 'Why did he leave?' to Don Felder and he said 'Well, he wrote Take It To The Limit, and he decided he was a songwriting genius.' I said 'Is he?' and he said 'He's gone off to prove it.' A similar thing happened... Henley went off and had his personal stardom bid and so did Glenn Frey."

[Jonny Come Lately]

Thanks UtW for posting the Phil Kenzie interview. It was a really enlightening piece, which I think is quite refreshing.

[UndertheWire]

One thing I like about Phil Kenzie is that he's enthusiastic about his time playing with the Eagles. In one interview, he says that was his best touring experience. When I hear his stories about some acts not giving credit to sidemen, I can contrast that with the way the Eagles always introduced the supporting musicians and credited them on albums.

Now here's something from Bob Seger:

Did your writing change from that point?
I think so. Glenn Frey, who’d made it with The Eagles before Beautiful Loser, heard the initial tracks for the album. He listened to the songs and said: “Now you’re starting to write. Now you’re starting to get it”. He said: “Now you take your time. Take the time it takes to write good songs”. He was kind of my mentor, even though he was three or four years younger than me. With Glenn, the son became the father in a way. Seeing how hard Glenn and Don [Henley] worked on their stuff inspired me. Don would just kill himself over lyrics and Glenn would kill himself over music. Watching the two of them first-hand you could see how committed they were to their music.
You co-wrote the Eagles’ Heartache Tonight.
Yeah, but that was much later.
Was there as much meticulous attention to detail going into The Eagles’ songs when you worked with them?
Oh yeah. You listen to Don’s lyrics. He didn’t lighten up. You listen to the stuff they did in 1980 and it’s as good as the songs they did in 1975. Heartache Tonight started with me and Glenn at his house. I was playing bass and he was playing guitar. He had this little thing: 'Somebody’s gonna hurt somebody.’ He wanted to write a shuffle. So we’replaying that groove, and Glenn’s singing the verses, and suddenly, out of the blue, the chorus came into myhead.[Sings] ‘There’s gonna be a heartache tonight, heartache tonight, I know”.
I started singing that and Glenn goes: “Yeah!”. I took what he was singing about and jumped right into the chorus. Then Glenn called [Joe] Walsh. Now it’s like one o’clock in the morning. Walsh gets up and comes down and starts playing guitar on it, and comes up with the bridge. Then JD Souther came in right after Walsh that same night. He’d help Glenn with lyrics. The next day Henley chimes in and goes: “Oh yeah”, and he starts writing a lot of the lyrics. So that’s how that song happened.http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-10-22/bob-seger-making-all-the-right-moves

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Awesome stuff. Thanks UTW.

It sounds funny to hear Seger speak of Glenn as a mentor when we heard it the other way around from Glenn for so many years.

[buffyfan145]

Thanks for posting UTW!!! :D Loved reading that from Bob.

[Jonny Come Lately]

Very interesting and informative article, thanks for posting. It's the fourth different perspective I've read on how Heartache Tonight came into being, the other viewpoints being from Glenn, J.D. and Don F. Each one has been different, although Bob's version seems to match but Glenn and J.D.'s accounts more. I think they both also mentioned about jamming on electric guitars, although IIRC IJ.D. said that he was with Glenn during the jam sessions and then they called Bob when they wanted help with the chorus. Although now I think about it I don't think that's actually contradictory in any significant way.

One thing I'd be interested to know is what Bob means about Joe working on the bridge - I'm guessing he means Joe's slide guitar solo parts? That would be my guess, as Joe isn't credited as a writer for the song, but I can't be completely sure.

[chaim]

One thing that seems to be consistent is that the song started with the verse Glenn had and Bob came up with the chorus idea. As for the bridge, it has happened a lot that someone wasn't credited when he/she came up with a section in the song. But in this case I think that Bob's memory failed him. Or perhaps Joe played a chord that inspired Glenn or/and Bob to write the bridge. Joe could have played something that was enough to inspire the others to write, but not enough for an actual writing credit. And now Bob remembers that Joe wrote the whole bridge. Who knows...

[Eagles7]

UTW, loved the articles. Also loved how Kenzie lamented the lack of sax solos and guitar solos in today's music. I have always been a big Springsteen fan, and nobody did it like Clarence. I real miss the guitar solos also.

There were some amazing pieces of music in those days!

[Eagles7]

Oh, also loved all the little tidbits from Don Felder, since they were friends.

[chaim]

Oh, also loved all the little tidbits from Don Felder, since they were friends.

That was the first time I've heard that Take It To The Limit went into Randy's head - as a writer. Not sure if I believe that. That happened with Peter Criss (KISS) and Beth. But Randy had more to do with his song than Peter with his! :hilarious:

[buffyfan145]

This is slightly Eagles related but I've seen them mentioned now in a few reviews of Kings of Leon's latest album "Walls". Kings of Leon really have gone back to their Southern rock sound they started with but it's also still current including having some nice ballads. I've seen some already saying "Walls" is their "Hotel California" and it's now my fav KOL album. I've never liked all the songs on one of their albums till now. It's such a fantastic album and I think I can hear the comparison there.

[UndertheWire]

This is slightly Eagles related but I've seen them mentioned now in a few reviews of Kings of Leon's latest album "Walls". Kings of Leon really have gone back to their Southern rock sound they started with but it's also still current including having some nice ballads. I've seen some already saying "Walls" is their "Hotel California" and it's now my fav KOL album. I've never liked all the songs on one of their albums till now. It's such a fantastic album and I think I can hear the comparison there.
Funny you should say that because http://www.thenational.ae/arts-life/music/album-review-kings-of-leon-return-to-their-roots-in-walls (this review) turned up today and the review is full of Eagles references.

[buffyfan145]

That was one of the ones I saw last night UTW. :D Glad I wasn't the only one realizing it.

[Jonny Come Lately]

This is slightly Eagles related but I've seen them mentioned now in a few reviews of Kings of Leon's latest album "Walls". Kings of Leon really have gone back to their Southern rock sound they started with but it's also still current including having some nice ballads. I've seen some already saying "Walls" is their "Hotel California" and it's now my fav KOL album. I've never liked all the songs on one of their albums till now. It's such a fantastic album and I think I can hear the comparison there.

This is weird because I was reading a review of the Kings of Leon album in the newspaper on a train journey a couple of weeks ago. There were no Eagles mentions in their review, but by some strange coincidence, one of the albums I was listening to on that journey was Desperado. It was only recently that I discovered that they were originally a Southern rock band, I was really only aware of their (for want of a better term) more 'stadium rock' type songs (Sex On Fire and suchlike).

[Delilah]

This from the Washington Post where Don Henley and others discuss Don's previous statements about Deacon Frey, the Kennedy Center Honors, some band history and Glenn's death.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/don-henley-says-the-eagles-are-done-it-was-always-glenn-freys-band/2016/11/28/ccd89a4a-aa6a-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html

[sodascouts]

Well, there you go then. I'm going to change the title of the other thread!

A revealing article.

[UndertheWire]

The lyrics manuscript for Hotel California is up for auction at Sotheby's on Dec 10th.
http://pitchfork.com/news/70080-john-lennons-sgt-peppers-piano-bob-dylan-lyric-sheets-more-up-for-auction/

Here's a picture - I wish it was all spread out.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/rock-roll-n09587/lot.55.html

Any handwriting experts here? I think the sheet with all the rhymes for "Ice" is probably Glenn's whereas the one headed "Hotel California" is Don's. Of course, it doesn't tell us who came up with a line/phrase/word, just who wrote it down.

[Funk 50]

Very interesting document, considering that they always claimed that they disposed of anything that they didn't use. Thanks for posting UndertheWire. 8)

[Brooke]

This from the Washington Post where Don Henley and others discuss Don's previous statements about Deacon Frey, the Kennedy Center Honors, some band history and Glenn's death.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/don-henley-says-the-eagles-are-done-it-was-always-glenn-freys-band/2016/11/28/ccd89a4a-aa6a-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html

Great article! Thanks Delilah!

And loved the HC lyrics! So great to see documents like that! :heart:

[shunlvswx]

It was sad, but great article.

We learn a little bit of what we was going on with Glenn in his final year. It sad to know what the pain Glenn was going through all these years. I guess we will never really know if it was the drugs or RA that killed him. Nobody knows. Not Cindy. Not Irving. Not anyone.

I figure Don did go to the hospital to see Glenn even if he was a coma. Just picturing Don, Sharon and Cindy at Glenn's bedside hoping and praying he will make it makes me sad, but its nice to know she had somebody there sometimes for support.

[Brooke]

I'm sure someone was there with him most of the time. Families just do that.

[buffyfan145]

That is a great article but it is very sad too. I hate that I can easily picture what they were going through as I had a very close friend that was on life support for a month after his car accident before he died and seeing him like that was so hard and seeing what his family went through. Different situation as my friend was only 25 at the time, but it still is such a hard thing to go through and see that happen to a family member or friend.

And thanks UTW for the lyric sheets too.

[Freypower]

It was sad, but great article.

We learn a little bit of what we was going on with Glenn in his final year. It sad to know what the pain Glenn was going through all these years. I guess we will never really know if it was the drugs or RA that killed him. Nobody knows. Not Cindy. Not Irving. Not anyone.

I figure Don did go to the hospital to see Glenn even if he was a coma. Just picturing Don, Sharon and Cindy at Glenn's bedside hoping and praying he will make it makes me sad, but its nice to know she had somebody there sometimes for support.

We do know. The article makes it quite clear. He died of pneumonia. His immune system was weakened because of the drugs, true, and then there was a change of medication, but the actual direct cause was pneumonia.

The ulcerative colitis is something that people have been tending to forget. He once said he was 2 & 0 in colon surgery which was a great record to have. He probably realised that he would not be so lucky the next time it reared its head. Think of certain songs about running out of time.

As for RA, my late father-in-law had it too. My husband says his fingers were like claws.

The bedside scene must have been heartbreaking, but I'm glad I know about it.

[Funk 50]

The lyrics manuscript for Hotel California is up for auction at Sotheby's on Dec 10th.
http://pitchfork.com/news/70080-john-lennons-sgt-peppers-piano-bob-dylan-lyric-sheets-more-up-for-auction/

Here's a picture - I wish it was all spread out.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/rock-roll-n09587/lot.55.html

Any handwriting experts here? I think the sheet with all the rhymes for "Ice" is probably Glenn's whereas the one headed "Hotel California" is Don's. Of course, it doesn't tell us who came up with a line/phrase/word, just who wrote it down.


DETAILS & CATALOGUING

The Eagles
ORIGINAL AUTOGRAPH MANUSCRIPT OF “HOTEL CALIFORNIA” [1976] - THE ESSENTIAL LYRICS AS RELEASED ON THE 1977 HOTEL CALIFORNIA ALBUM.
14 pages of lined yellow paper (8 ½ x 11 in; 216 x 280 mm). Comprising the working version of the iconic anthem, from rudimentary images and lines, to a near final version; with numerous edits and emendations in both Henley and Frey’s hands.

I wonder where current owner, Ed Sanders, got it from. I'm sure Henley would want it, under lock and key, if not through the shredder. I bet Walsh and especially Felder might think of bidding too. I can see rock museums breaking the bank to have it on display under their roof.

[NightMistBlue]

Ed Sanders?! The same cat who was in the Fugs and wrote a book about Charles Manson? Dang.

[Houston Baby]

Soooo, if 14 of us contributed $100,000.00 each that would be $1,400,000.00 and we would have a great shot at winning it. Each person would then get 1 page. Who's in? :D

I guess I could cash in my 401K and mortgage the house. :hmm:
Seriously I wish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or the Smithsonian would get it instead of a individual unless the buyer is willing to donate or loan it to a museum.

Thanks for sharing UTW! I had not heard about the auction.

[Brooke]

I wonder how this person got the lyrics sheets?

It should definitely be in Henley's possession or like HB said, RRHoF.

I wish I could help HB, but I'd never come up with that kind of money! :lol:

[Delilah]

Soooo, if 14 of us contributed $100,000.00 each that would be $1,400,000.00 and we would have a great shot at winning it. Each person would then get 1 page. Who's in? :D


Well, I'm in, as long as it originally came from a smoke-free environment. :hilarious:

UTW, I agree with you about the handwriting, except for the page that references Blanche du Bois, one of the most tragic movie characters. It looks like Glenn's handwriting and resembles the "ice" page, but the prose sounds all Don Henley.

[UndertheWire]

This is a really good article about the Eagles in Florida in the 70s. It includes relatively specific detail about the writing and recording of the song, Hotel California.




It was a typical afternoon early in 1976 in Miami’s Criteria Studios. The Eagles had recorded two versions of “Hotel California” in L.A. But the first was in the wrong key and the second was in the wrong tempo, too fast.

“The actual track used was born in Miami at about 4 p.m. in Criteria’s Studio C. When we got all the sounds right, tempo right, key right, it was magic,” recalls producer Bill Szymczyk, who coached the band from “On the Border” through “Eagles Live.”


Henley, an English literature major and voracious reader, was the band’s “Vice President in Charge of Lyrics.” He and Frey were still wrestling with the words to “Hotel California” after most of the music had been recorded.

The two locked themselves in what they called the “Hollywood Room” of their rented 1934 art deco mansion at 5242 N. Bay Road in Miami Beach to try to finish the song.

“They stayed in there for three days to work on that song,” says Cindy Johnson-O’Dare, a co-founder with Jeri Jenkins of Home At Last, a company that provided room and board for rock bands. “Jeri and I brought tray upon tray of coffee and sandwiches to them.”

About 2 p.m. on the third or fourth day, Henley and Frey, (who Szymczyk dubbed “The Lone Arranger,”) came downstairs to the kitchen.

“They asked us to listen to the lyrics,” says Jenkins. “I remember the line, `She’s got the Mercedes Benz,’ spelled b-e-n-d-s. We thought that was great.”

“There was an excitement and electricity between them,” adds Johnson-O’Dare. “It was important that the words all meant something. They didn’t just write to make it rhyme.”

Ed Mashal, who served as Szymczyk’s engineer, said Henley and Frey “labored over lyrics.
“I don’t think anybody had a sense of what that tune and that album were going to do,” says Mashal, “but I think they knew it was some of their best work.”

Guitarist Felder hatched the music to “Hotel California.” The now-classic extended guitar jam between Felder and Walsh at the end of the song also happened in Criteria’s Studio C. It was recorded a month after the rest of the song and involved about eight hours of jamming over a period of several days.

“We wanted to have individual statements turning into a double lead,” Walsh says. “We knew it was something special, but we didn’t know if it was any good or not. We had lost perspective.”
Szymczyk recalled the session as “an eight-hour joy ride. Walsh was on my right and Felder on my left, jamming their brains out. It was like being in the middle of the gunfight at the O.K. Corral.”
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/entertainment/how-eagles-classic-hotel-california-was-recorded-i/ntJrB/

[thelastresort]

Never knew they hired a mansion to finish writing Hotel California. That is amazing :lol:

[DivineDon]

Thanks, UTW -really interesting to get an insight into their process. Just goes to show how in tandem Don and Glenn were.

[buffyfan145]

Thanks UTW for that!!! :D I never knew about the Miami recording and that was an awesome read.

[NightMistBlue]

Many thanks, UtW. This is news to me, about them renting a house at 5242 N Bay Road*. I thought they were staying in Golden Beach, at 461 Ocean Blvd. - and they were, but not exclusively it seems.

This touches on the actual hard copy of the HC lyrics, which are being sold by Ed Sanders (ex-Fug, author of a book on Manson and an extensive, though unreleased tome on the Eagles). This article reminds me that one of the women who ran Home at Last said *she* owned a copy of the hardwritten lyrics to HC.

*A wealthy enclave called LaGorce - Barry Gibb has lived there with his family for decades; his brothers had homes close by. Jimmy Page lived there for a short time, but couldn't stand the tourist boats going by each day and a fellow on a loudspeaker talking about him!

[NightMistBlue]

Here's the rest of the article:

The Eagles already had recorded three hit albums and had five Top 40 singles when they first came to South Florida in August 1974 to record “One of These Nights.”

The band did much of its best work in Florida.

“We’d always get more of a swamp sound in Florida,” Szymczyk says. “The best thing about working and living in Florida is it got them out of their hometown, and by doing so made them a hell of a lot more comfortable. They were in a much more creative, non-hassle environment than in L.A. They wrote more because they were interrupted less.”

It wasn’t all work. The band never recorded on Sundays. Group members, especially Frey and Henley, were sports fans and Szymczyk, a Dolphins season ticket holder, took them to all the home games. The band members talked in sports terms, calling Szymczyk “Coach” and “The Don Shula of Rock ‘n’ Roll.”

Along with the rock ‘n’ roll, there was plenty of sex and drugs. All anyone will say about that is, “There was a lot of debauchery with that band.”

The band and crew rented several homes in the area, the most popular being 461 Ocean Blvd. in Golden Beach, where Eric Clapton had stayed while recording his classic 1974 album, which he named after the address. “Everyone wanted to stay in Eric Clapton’s house,” Szymczyk recalls.

They liked the area so much that after finishing each record, they put their beds, TVs, pillows and even a favorite coffee pot and grinder in storage so everything was quickly available when they returned to make the next record.

Each record was more successful than the previous one - and more emotionally and psychologically difficult to make.

By the time the Eagles set up camp in Szymczyk’s own Bayshore Studios in Coconut Grove in late 1977 to make “The Long Run,” the pressure to feed the beast was immense.

“Every album from ‘On the Border’ on,” says producer Szymczyk, “when we’d convene, we were very aware of the two-edged pressure sword, peer pressure from (the music industry) and pressure from the public. It got bigger, so now what do we do?”

Szymczyk notes that “On the Border” took three months to record; “One of These Nights”, six; “Hotel California”, nine. “The Long Run” took 18 months over nearly three years.

Perfectionists as they were, band members became obsessed with every little detail, literally laboring for hours over syllables. Egos and patience were stretched to the limit.

Szymczyk realized this was the Eagles’ swan song.

At the beginning of “The Long Run” sessions, Szymczyk thought the band had another two or three albums in it. “But in the middle, I knew it was over. For us to do the live record (in 1980) was a minor miracle.”

Szymczyk won’t pull skeletons from any closets. He attributes the demise of the band in 1980 to “friction amongst the band members themselves, an `I’m tired of dealing with you’ mentality. And you could apply that to any two people in any combination.”

Pressures within the band remained long after they reunited. Felder, who grew up in Gainesville, was removed from the band and wrote a good memoir about his experiences. Frey died earlier this year from complications of colitis and rheumatoid arthritis. On Sunday, band members Frey, Henley, Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit were awarded Kennedy Center honors by President Obama. But even that was tinged with the typical controversy that has always surrounded the band: Felder thought it was wrong that he and original members Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon were not honored in the ceremony.

[Brooke]

Very interesting article! I never knew about 461 Ocean Blvd either!

Thanks UtW and NMB!

[Freypower]

The last time I saw the band, in Brisbane, before The Long Run Don told the story about recording in Florida at Eric Clapton's place. 'Was it Avenue or Boulevard'? he mused.

'Boulevard', I said. I was directly below him.

'Boulevard, thank you' he responded. He didn't look at me but he heard me clearly.

That's MY special Henley memory, that and the wave I gave him at the end which he returned.

[Philh]

Possibly the wrong thread for this but this Friday at 20:30 on Sky Arts TV channel here in the U.K, there is a documentary on the Eagles which appears to be a new one.
It's part of Sky Arts 'Discovery' series. Although only 30 mins, I will definitely be watching.

[Freypower]

One of the co-founders of the Eagles former manangment company, Front Line Management, has died; Howard Kaufman. I don't think he had any involvement with them after they reformed.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/howard-kaufman-dies/

[NightMistBlue]

I'm glad the article explained the evolution of Front Line b/c it was very difficult to understand (for me, anyway):

Kaufman and Azoff created Front Line Management in 1974, where their roster included the Eagles, Steely Dan and Jimmy Buffett. Nine years later, Azoff left to become president of MCA Records, where he stayed until 1989, and Kaufman formed HK Management. They merged and revived the name in 2005, and sold it to Ticketmaster in 2008, at which point Azoff became its CEO.

[UndertheWire]

After that feat, can you work out when Azoff was manager for individuals as well as the band?

As far as I can tell, he has been manager for Don Henley throughout.
He stopped managing Glenn some time between 1982 and 1984 but they must have remained on good terms, as Azoff was behind Glenn's move to the MCA record label.

In 1994, Azoff was manager for the band and presumably Henley. Felder also seems to have considered Azoff to be his manager at this time. Meanwhile, Glenn and Joe had their own managers (Peter Lopez and David Spero, respectively).

From around 2000 or 2001, Azoff managed everyone (except Felder, I assume). According to Spero, Joe was given the choice of being managed by Azoff or being treated as a sideman. Spero also claims that Azoff never wanted him involved in 1994, but Glenn stood up for him. It seems like there was a lot more going on than the firing of Felder in those 2000/2001 negotiations.

[NightMistBlue]

No, I've never been able to work out Randy's management path either. He stayed with Front Line after he left the Eagles, but had trouble getting booked for concerts which led to his suspicion that Azoff was blackballing or otherwise hindering him in the industry. After a confrontation between the two men in 1978, Randy eventually went with Trudy Green. Ms. Green worked closely with Howard Kaufman at Front Line and later HK Management. So... Randy was still on Irving's farm so to speak.

[UndertheWire]

You can sometimes find it on the liner notes. Soda has transcribed the line notes for all of the Eagles albums and all of Glenn Frey's, which makes those easy to find.

Glenn:
No Fun Aloud (1982): Irving Azoff and Front Line ManagementThe Allnighter (1984): The Fitzgerald-Hartley Co.
Soul Searchin' (1988): The Fitzgerald-Hartley Co.
Strange Weather (1992): Peter Lopez
Solo Collection (1995): Peter Lopez

Eagles:
Eagles (1972): Direction The Geffen-Roberts Co.
Desperado (1973): Direction The Geffen-Roberts Co.
On the Border (1974): Irv Azoff and David Geffen get thanks. No credit for "direction" or "management".
One of These Nights (1975): "Special Thanks To Irv Azoff, And Everyone At Front Line Management"
Hotel California (1976): Direction: Front Line Management
The Long Run (1979): Direction: IRV AZOFF and Front Line Management

Hell Freezes Over: Personal management Irving Azoff, Peter Lopez
1972-1999: Selected Works: Irving Azoff
The Very Best of the Eagles: Management: IRVING AZOFF - azoffmusic management
Long Road Out of Eden: MANAGEMENT: IRVING AZOFF

[Funk 50]

Best Classic Bands have an excerpt, focusing on The Singer/Songwriter Explosion Of The ’70s, from a forthcoming book; America’s Songs III: Rock!, out in March from author Bruce Pollock.

http://bestclassicbands.com/singer-songwriters-book-excerpt-2-21-17/

"In the book Pollock takes a critical look at approximately 300 songs that shaped the genre from 1953 to 1993"

I'm a little surprised to learn that Peaceful Easy Feeling was written in '68 or '69. :eyebrow:

[UndertheWire]

I'm a little surprised to learn that Peaceful Easy Feeling was written in '68 or '69. :eyebrow:
I suspect the author has that wrong. I've certainly heard Jack Tempchin describe it as a "new" song when Glenn first heard it when Glenn's band was 8 days old. The other thing I think he gets wrong is the bit about Jack hearing Henley sing PEF. I've heard Jack talk about going to that rehearsal and hearing Henley for the first time, but he didn't say what Henley was singing.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Folks - It seems we have the same discussion going on in two different threads, so I'm going to move the posts here from today over to the other one. Please make any further comments about an Eagles resumption in the other thread (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6955) so as to not go too far off topic in this one. Thanks.

[Funk 50]

A VVS headline featuring, 60's Beatles peer and Merseybeat stalwart, Gerry Marsden, lead singer of Gerry And The Pacemakers, caught my attention. I was reaaly surprised to see the Eagles get a mention in the text;


he fell flat on his back while performing the Eagles Peaceful Easy Feeling

http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/03/gerry-marsden-of-gerry-pacemakers-in.html :eyebrow:

[priscillaupstate]

Hope he's ok but what a way to go!

[Funk 50]

Gerry is ok. He was angry with the news article, bringing up his past, major heart surgery when, as he says, it was just he knee playing up.

"About 40 minutes into the show my knee started playing up, I lost my balance and my PA came up, got my guitar and got me to come off the stage. It’s a pain in the a**e rather than anything serious, well really it’s a pain in the knee. I came home and now it’s strapped up and I’m resting. It was nothing serious."

I can't imagine the guy doing any major physical gyrations while performing Peaceful Easy Feeling or would that be a Painful Kneesy Feeling :p

http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017/03/gerry-marsden-of-gerry-pacemakers-in.html

[Jonny Come Lately]

Found a good (and unexpected!) mention in the football section of The Times (of London) - Scott Arfield, a Scottish/Canadian who plays for Burnley FC, talks about his love of music, and how he sung Take It Easy as his initiation song on joining the club! I've provided a link, although most of the article is behind a paywall.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/birthplace-scotland-playing-for-burnley-representing-canada-2m9chbx79


For my initiation, I sang Take It Easy by the Eagles. Fat boy music! Because it has a guitar in it! For me, it's proper music. I love music with lyrics, a story to pull me in like the Courteeners. That's massive talent, telling a story through a song.

The term 'fat boy music' was coined by one of his team mates, who is mainly into grime music and thinks that the rock and alternative music Arfield likes is 'middle-aged men, sitting in a pub, drinking beer'!

He also mentioned TIE in an older article from a few years ago.
http://beatsandrhymesfc.com/scott-arfield-interview-jackpot-looms-large-on-the-clarets-wheel-of-fortune/

[Funk 50]

Here's part of a Chaz & AJ, radio interview with Jimmy Koplik, who's introduced as Chairman Of Live Nation North East Region.

I was drawn to this by the amusing Joe Walsh story, that probably wont make Joe's autobiography but Jimmy also talks about Eagles upcoming concerts and, answering listeners questions, addresses, Felder, Farewell Tours and delivers an insight as to why bands don't retire. In a word, Adrenalin. :smile:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5735824-joe-walsh-almost-missed-the-famous-yale-bowl-concert?t=0

[Delilah]

I bet to this day, Joe has a strong aversion to ice. :hilarious:

It's not clear to me that Mr. Koplik has any real firsthand knowledge about this summer's concerts. It sounds like he's just parroting what's he's read in Billboard and elsewhere like the rest of us. :shrug:

[sodascouts]

Agreed, Delilah. It's quite pathetic how many sites seize upon something reported elsewhere and recycle it every few days to pretend that it's something new.

[Funk 50]

Not knowing exactly when the interview took place, Mr. Koplik could be the source of the story. As Chairman of Live Nation (NE Region), I'd expect him to have some interest and knowledge of what his company is up to.

I prefer stories about the Eagles to be heavily recycled rather than ignored or dismissed as un-newsworthy.

[UndertheWire]

My take was that Mr Koplik has been reading the same news items as us but that he has some personal knowledge of the people concerned (from when they played in venues within his remit) which makes his interpretation more interesting than typical recycled news.

[UndertheWire]

Some real news, with a statement from Henley.
"Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975" has been included in the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-library-congress-national-recording-registry-nwa-eagles-20170329-story.html


“Popular music is one of this country’s finest exports,” Eagles founding member Don Henley (http://www.latimes.com/topic/entertainment/music/don-henley-PECLB002338-topic.html) told The Times on Wednesday via email.
“We excel at it. Popular music and radio programming created and recorded in the USA have been a global force that crosses geographical, cultural and political boundaries.”

“Some anthropologists,” Henley said, “say that humankind has about 1,000 more years of existence on this planet. So, one might logically ask, ‘What’s the point of archiving these recordings?’ We do it for the same reason ancient cave dwellers made drawings on the walls of their caves – to say, ‘We were here and this is what our life was like.’”

“Each of the other selected songs you mentioned,” Henley wrote, “has a special resonance in my life: Judy Garland’s ‘Over the Rainbow,’ one of the greatest ballads ever written, is part of the childhood of every Baby Boomer (and pre-Boomer, back to 1939). ‘Hound Dog’ (Elvis Presley’s version) was the first rock & roll record I ever owned. ‘I’ll Fly Away’ (Dillards’ version on ‘Wheatstraw Suite’ LP) has always been a favorite and was sung at my mother’s funeral. ‘Amazing Grace’ was one of my grandmother’s most beloved hymns.”

Referring to his Eagles bandmate Glenn Frey, who died last year, Henley added, “Glenn, being the avid sports fan that he was, would have been so pleased to know that our album went into the archives alongside Vin Scully’s historic 1957 broadcast of the Brooklyn Dodgers-New York Giants game at the Polo Grounds, the last Dodgers-Giants game ever played there.”

This is what Billboard had to say:

Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975), Eagles (1976)
It's unusual for a group to be best known for a greatest-hits compilation, especially for the Eagles who, at the time, were thought of as an album band, not a singles band. It's even more surprising because the members of the group had no say in the decision to release such an album and didn't want one released. Against a backdrop of lawsuits, their record company decided to put out a greatest-hits package while the Eagles worked on their next studio album. The supposed potboiler, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975), was intended merely to generate income and buy the Eagles some time while they worked on what would become Hotel California. Instead, the overwhelming response thrilled the record company — less so some members of the band. Don Henley complained that cobbling together a hits package diminished the artistic integrity of a concept album like Desperado,"from which two songs were taken. Nevertheless, fans loved the greatest hits, and it undeniably elevated the stature of the Eagles, making them one of the most successful and best-loved groups of their era.
(It doesn't even get a mention in the Billboard introduction, let alone the headline).
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7743466/judy-garland-nwa-david-bowie-national-recording-registry

[buffyfan145]

That's awesome it's going into the Library of Congress!!! :D That and their 2nd Greatest Hits (and the radio) was how I and a lot of us in the younger generations grew up with their music.

[Delilah]

Very cool! I love that it's this particular album that is considered "culturally, historically and aesthetically significant" enough to be preserved by the Library of Congress.

[Funk 50]

Some real news, with a statement from Henley.

"Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975" has been included in the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-library-congress-national-recording-registry-nwa-eagles-20170329-story.html


“Popular music is one of this country’s finest exports,” Eagles founding member Don Henley told The Times on Wednesday via email.
“We excel at it. Popular music and radio programming created and recorded in the USA have been a global force that crosses geographical, cultural and political boundaries.”

“Some anthropologists,” Henley said, “say that humankind has about 1,000 more years of existence on this planet. So, one might logically ask, ‘What’s the point of archiving these recordings?’ We do it for the same reason ancient cave dwellers made drawings on the walls of their caves – to say, ‘We were here and this is what our life was like.’”

“Each of the other selected songs you mentioned,” Henley wrote, “has a special resonance in my life: Judy Garland’s ‘Over the Rainbow,’ one of the greatest ballads ever written, is part of the childhood of every Baby Boomer (and pre-Boomer, back to 1939). ‘Hound Dog’ (Elvis Presley’s version) was the first rock & roll record I ever owned. ‘I’ll Fly Away’ (Dillards’ version on ‘Wheatstraw Suite’ LP) has always been a favorite and was sung at my mother’s funeral. ‘Amazing Grace’ was one of my grandmother’s most beloved hymns.”

Referring to his Eagles bandmate Glenn Frey, who died last year, Henley added, “Glenn, being the avid sports fan that he was, would have been so pleased to know that our album went into the archives alongside Vin Scully’s historic 1957 broadcast of the Brooklyn Dodgers-New York Giants game at the Polo Grounds, the last Dodgers-Giants game ever played there.”


This is what Billboard had to say:

Quote:

Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975), Eagles (1976)
It's unusual for a group to be best known for a greatest-hits compilation, especially for the Eagles who, at the time, were thought of as an album band, not a singles band. It's even more surprising because the members of the group had no say in the decision to release such an album and didn't want one released. Against a backdrop of lawsuits, their record company decided to put out a greatest-hits package while the Eagles worked on their next studio album. The supposed potboiler, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975), was intended merely to generate income and buy the Eagles some time while they worked on what would become Hotel California. Instead, the overwhelming response thrilled the record company — less so some members of the band. Don Henley complained that cobbling together a hits package diminished the artistic integrity of a concept album like Desperado,"from which two songs were taken. Nevertheless, fans loved the greatest hits, and it undeniably elevated the stature of the Eagles, making them one of the most successful and best-loved groups of their era.

(It doesn't even get a mention in the Billboard introduction, let alone the headline).
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7743466/judy-garland-nwa-david-bowie-national-recording-registry


Thanks! UndertheWire

Great comments from Don. I didn't think he'd mention that he opposed it's release. :bye:

[Dawn]

Many thanks UTW!!:thumbsup:

[Dawn]

Just posted this link to a recent news article in the 3.O tour thread.

Twilight of the Rock Gods - originally published in the WSJ

http://us.vocuspr.com/ViewAttachment.aspx?EID=cpZ7cCcDKQLTCyyd3OPZGRnH/JzLBb7VZOryYvI6uCQ%3D

[Funk 50]

I've been waiting for an update on the progress of Sheryl Crow's new album. The one Don and Joe, maybe Timothy too are on.

According to this New York Times article by Jon Pareles - March 31, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/arts/music/sheryl-crow-be-myself-interview.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

Sheryl's next album will be called Be Yourself (due April 21).


She also has a follow-up nearly done: a set of collaborations with friends, mentors and idols including Willie Nelson, Neil Young and members of the Eagles. There's a little more about it in the last paragraph. :-)

[NightMistBlue]

I enjoyed both articles, thank you Dawn and Funk. The cynic in me is saying regarding Sheryl: well, the move to "go Nashville" didn't work for her, so she's reverting to '90s Sheryl. Good luck to her though, she's very talented.

Twilight of the Rock Gods is a sobering piece. These gentlemen are entering their 70s, most of them. Half - half! - of concert revenues are from these senior bands. What will replace them, tribute bands? Holograms? Nobody knows. It's a shame that the music industry didn't do more to invest in young rock bands back in the 90s, what I think of as the last gasp of rock with the wave of alternative bands led by Nirvana.

[buffyfan145]

Didn't know where to post this but Brad Paisley actually mentions Glenn in a lyric in is new song "Last Time for Everything". It debuted online today and the lyric is "Watching Glenn Frey sing "Already Gone" at the Forum in L.A. There’s a last time for everything.” The full song is out now on Spotify.

[priscillaupstate]

Thanks. I just listened on YouTube!

[East Texas Girl]

Didn't know where to post this but Brad Paisley actually mentions Glenn in a lyric in is new song "Last Time for Everything". It debuted online today and the lyric is "Watching Glenn Frey sing "Already Gone" at the Forum in L.A. There’s a last time for everything.” The full song is out now on Spotify.

How cool Buffy!! I look forward to listening to it.

[shunlvswx]

The guys or Don are supposed to be interviewed tonight at a NYC station at 8:00 pm Eastern Time. They will explain why they decided to do the festival. I read that Don was on early this morning.

I really wasn't going to share this since some are not happy with them, but I went ahead since some may be interested.

http://q1043.iheart.com/

[longtimeeaglesfan]

Thanks for sharing that...I'll be interested in hearing what he (or they) have to say.

It was mentioned in Joe's thread that he said during his Facebook live event today regarding the upcoming East/West concerts that they would have some help from friends and thought they could still kick ass.

[shunlvswx]

Paraphrasing what was said. I don't know if anybody will care.

Don, Joe, and Timothy are being interviewed. Don and Joe talked first.

Don said they agreed they wanted to pass the first year of Glenn's death to mourn and see if they wanted to do a year later.

The year came and it was actually Irving who went to them about the festival. When came to them about this, they scratched our heads and they thought it wouldn't be a good idea. If it’s appropriate or not(so basically they were still saying no at this point and thought they still shouldn't get back together). Irving said their were still a demand from the fans for them to come back in some shape or form to perform. They wanted to see them and the other groups that was around during the same time as them to perform at the festival. So they thought about it. Discuss it with Glenn's family and they decided to give it a try. So they did discuss and get approval from Cindy and probably their children since he said Glenn's family.

The interviewer asked if Don if they were still the Eagles without Glenn. Don said we're not the same Eagles People asked who will replace Glenn. He said nobody. Glenn was irreplaceable, but the songs are the same. They will add a couple of new people to the lineup that they know Glenn would approve of, but Don didn't say who. Cindy did approve the people. The songs will carry on but there's no replacing Glenn. The fans want to hear these songs and they want to hear the songs played live by the people who were involved.

The show will be a celebration of Glenn's life and the band and he thinks Glenn would approve.

[shunlvswx]

Timothy is looking forward to the shows. All of them.

They played Take It Easy and now Already Gone.

[shunlvswx]

Don wanted to tell the fans they appreciate all the love they gave to them when Glenn died. They heard them.

[LuvTim]

The guys or Don are supposed to be interviewed tonight at a NYC station at 8:00 pm Eastern Time. They will explain why they decided to do the festival. I read that Don was on early this morning.

I really wasn't going to share this since some are not happy with them, but I went ahead since some may be interested.

http://q1043.iheart.com/

Thank you, shun.

[Delilah]

Paraphrasing what was said. I don't know if anybody will care.

Don, Joe, and Timothy are being interviewed. Don and Joe talked first.

Don said they were going to morn for a year and come back the following year to see if they want to do it.

The year came and it was actually Irving who went to them. Timothy, Joe, and Don were still saying no. Irving said their were still a demand from the fans for them to come back in some shape or form to perform. They said will give it try. They did talk to Cindy and she did approve this.

Don said they will NOT replace Glenn and the band will not be the same without Glenn. They will add a few people to the band for the concert, but they didn't say who. Cindy did approve the people. The songs will carry on. They will play the songs. Don said the fans will like who they picked. These are the only shows right now. I'm thinking those people will sing Glenn's songs and Don/Timothy/Joe will do there's.

The show will be a celebration of Glenn's life and the band and he thinks Glenn would approve.

I wasn't able to listen to this so thank you for the overview. It's good to know that Cindy Frey was consulted and she approves.

[East Texas Girl]

You are super quick Shun, the interview just went off on my radio and you already have it all here. Thanks so much for posting it all because I missed the first part.

[buffyfan145]

Thanks Shun for posting what they said. :) It makes me feel much better about it.

And you all are welcome about Brad's song. I've listened to it all now and love it. So many relevant things in it and nice tribute to Glenn, Little Jimmy Dickens, and Prince in the lyrics.

[shunlvswx]

You're welcome. I was mostly paraphrasing and I tried to write down and remember the key points. I thought it was a good interview. I know I probably missed a lot of stuff, but I'm tried to post the important points

Want to add what Joe said too.

Joe was asked what his reaction was when he first heard of this. He said he didn't embrace it at first, but he thought about it for a while and finally agreed along with Don and Timothy to give it a try.

[shunlvswx]

Actually I don't think they were in NYC. The show was called Icons or something like that. So I'm guessing this was a syndication type of show that is played on different stations across the country.

[shunlvswx]

You are super quick Shun, the interview just went off on my radio and you already have it all here. Thanks so much for posting it all because I missed the first part.

I listened to the link I posted at 7:00 my time. I didn't know if this show was played on other stations across the US.

[East Texas Girl]

I listened to the link I posted at 7:00 my time. I didn't know if this show was played on other stations across the US.

Ohhh, they played the interview on the radio in the 8:00 hour in the Dallas area.

[sodascouts]

Shun, when I tried your earlier link, I couldn't find the interview. Is it still up? I'm probably overlooking something obvious!

[New Kid In Town]

Soda - I do not know if this will help, but you can go to the Eagles Fastlane FB Page to hear the interview. Just scroll down for it. The interview was done by Jim Kerr, who is a DJ at my local NY/NJ Classic Rock Station 104.3. He has been around forever and worked other NY stations before moving to this station.

[Brooke]

Thanks for sharing this. It does help to know that Glenn's family approved it.

[Dawn]

With all due respect I can't imagine Glenn's family not approving particularly if Deacon Frey has been added to the band which is a very real possibility.

[WalshFan88]

I was reading an OLD interview with the original Lynyrd Skynyrd band when Allen, their guitarist turned on the jukebox and it started playing "Lyin' Eyes". Allen HATED that song because his wife played it when he returned home from the road. :hilarious:


Allen gets up to punch out the juke box. He presses some buttons and returns to his seat. Big time spender.

"City girls just seem to find out early..." warble the Eagles.

"Hey I didn't play 'Lying Eyes!' Allen roars at no one in particular. "The last time I got off the road and came home, the first thing my wife did was play that song. That really hurt. I'm only home six weeks out of a whole year and then that."

It was posted on a LS FB group. Here is the original post with the entire interview:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1787551314867851/permalink/1896078437348471/

[sodascouts]

Lol! That's hilarious!

[Funk 50]

This seems to be the only source of what I'd label as a major Eagles story.

http://kbgo.iheart.com/onair/big-95-morning-show-31453/big-music-news-eagles-tears-for-15748578/


EAGLES: Don Henley is talking about Hotel California as its 40th anniversary nears

December 8th will mark the 40th anniversary of the release of the Eagles' fifth studio album, Hotel California, which means a deluxe anniversary edition is on the way. But Don Henley wants to make one thing clear regarding this reissue:

"It's not because Glenn [Frey] passed away. They were gonna do that anyway because a lot of bands are doing that when anniversaries come up like that."


I've been looking for more info but there doesn't appear to be any :ack:

[Scarlet Sun]

This seems to be the only source of what I'd label as a major Eagles story.

http://kbgo.iheart.com/onair/big-95-morning-show-31453/big-music-news-eagles-tears-for-15748578/



I've been looking for more info but there doesn't appear to be any :ack:
Seems like it's a year late for that

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[Delilah]

A deluxe anniversary edition of Hotel California? That would be awesome! Even if it is late, I don't think it would make much difference; given what happened in 2016, the lateness is understandable. HC was released at the end of 1976 anyway and didn't reach its height in popularity until 1977.

Imagine, a deluxe edition with a bonus disc of unreleased demos, re-mixes from the vault, live recordings, a DVD with an entire concert from the tour, a couple of posters or pictures, a booklet with some back stories...:drool:

Wishful thinking, I know. If anything happens it'll probably be an overpriced re-issue with the same old remastering.

[East Texas Girl]

Delilah, I like your thinking! If any of those items you mentioned were included it would be great!! Personally I would love to see the DVD.

You're never too old to hang posters on the wall of your favorite guys, are you?! ;)

[Delilah]

Delilah, I like your thinking! If any of those items you mentioned were included it would be great!! Personally I would love to see the DVD.

You're never too old to hang posters on the wall of your favorite guys, are you?! ;)

Lol, that's right, East Texas Girl, never too old, still young at heart!

[Scarlet Sun]

Imagine, a deluxe edition with a bonus disc of unreleased demos, re-mixes from the vault, live recordings, a DVD with an entire concert from the tour, a couple of posters or pictures, a booklet with some back stories...:drool:
Felder's VOL lead vocal?

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[Delilah]

Felder's VOL lead vocal?

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Definitely, I'd love to hear that. :cool:

[buffyfan145]

That would be awesome if it's like that Delilah!!! :D Hopefully we'll find out more soon if something is coming.

[New Kid In Town]

I for one would love to see a DVD release of the whole Capital Center Concert from DC. We know it was filmed so there has to be more footage in a vault somewhere. The Eagles went on for years and years about having no lost films/footage and than it suddenly appears in HOTE and the concert disc. I would bet there is plenty more.

[WalshFan88]

Brad Paisley's new single from his CD that drops tomorrow has a line about Glenn in it. The song is called "Last Time For Everything", which is very sad but I'm glad he mentioned Glenn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14c1Dv6FXPU

[priscillaupstate]

Bill Maher just ended his show's discussion of Earth Day by quoting Don Henley and then playing The Last Resort.

[LuvTim]

Brad Paisley's new single from his CD that drops tomorrow has a line about Glenn in it. The song is called "Last Time For Everything", which is very sad but I'm glad he mentioned Glenn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14c1Dv6FXPU


Did I see Will Hollis with Brad Paisley on TV last week? :shrug: There was a guy behind Brad on keyboards. (I think it was a keyboard. Could have been a steel guitar. It was hard to tell.)

[GlennLover]

Comments by Mick Fleetwood about the Eagles' upcoming performances: http://rock107.com/mick-fleetwood-says-the-eagles-surprise-plan-to-perform-without-the-late-glenn-frey-is-really-historical/

[shunlvswx]

I saw this on facebook and I thought it was cool. I knew Felder played on one of the Bee Gees album, but not the other guys.

http://jmsdimaiwat.blogspot.com/2017/04/eagles-members-who-were-bee-geesgibb.html

[Freypower]

I saw this on facebook and I thought it was cool. I knew Felder played on one of the Bee Gees album, but not the other guys.

http://jmsdimaiwat.blogspot.com/2017/04/eagles-members-who-were-bee-geesgibb.html

No proof whatsoever is given for these claims. I have both One & ESP & I have never heard that Frey, Henley & Schmit appear on them. Glenn is listed in the Wikipedia entry for ESP as making an uncredited appearance on Giving Up The Ghost. There is no source for this. Similarly with Henley & Crago on the song One.

Felder appears on He's A Liar from Living Eyes.

[sodascouts]

Very interesting - thanks shun!

[NightMistBlue]

My fellow Americans: "60 Minutes" is going to do a feature tonight on photographer Norman Seef, who photographed the Eagles and pretty much everyone else in pop and rock. The program is delayed because of a golf tournament, but keep yer eyes peeled...

EDIT: It's on now.

[New Kid In Town]

Thank you for the heads up .

[NightMistBlue]

The Eagles weren't mentioned at all! Waaah. :doh:

It was an interesting segment though. Turns out Seef filmed all of his photo sessions. So there is film presumably of the One of These Nights photo session. Most of his films have been sitting in a vault, undeveloped, all these decades. But he hopes to have them in a documentary someday. It will cost half a million dollars to have all this film developed and restored, so who knows when that may happen. And Seef is 78 years old.

I hope we get to see the Eagles and other footage someday. They showed his films of Ray Charles, Ike and Tina Turner, John Travolta, Steve Martin.

[LuvTim]

The Eagles weren't mentioned at all! Waaah. :doh:

It was an interesting segment though. Turns out Seef filmed all of his photo sessions. So there is film presumably of the One of These Nights photo session. Most of his films have been sitting in a vault, undeveloped, all these decades. But he hopes to have them in a documentary someday. It will cost half a million dollars to have all this film developed and restored, so who knows when that may happen. And Seef is 78 years old.

I hope we get to see the Eagles and other footage someday. They showed his films of Ray Charles, Ike and Tina Turner, John Travolta, Steve Martin.

That must have been interesting. Sorry I missed it.

[NightMistBlue]

Comments by Mick Fleetwood about the Eagles' upcoming performances: http://rock107.com/mick-fleetwood-says-the-eagles-surprise-plan-to-perform-without-the-late-glenn-frey-is-really-historical/
Bah. That link has gone bad. I was interested in what Mick had to say.

[GlennLover]

Bah. That link has gone bad. I was interested in what Mick had to say.

Here's a link to ABC Radio News with the same info: http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2017/4/25/mick-fleetwood-says-the-eagles-surprise-plan-to-perform-with.html


Courtesy of The Classic

One of the musical highlights of this summer will be the Classic East/Classic West Festivals, taking place in July in New York and L.A. with a lineup that includes Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, The Doobie Brothers, Journey, Steely Dan, and Earth, Wind & Fire. The Eagles haven't performed since co-founder and frontman Glenn Frey died last year, but according to Fleetwood Mac's Mick Fleetwood, they've somehow found a way to fill the huge gap left by Frey's absence.

"I'll leave the surprise of how they're doing it to unfold in their own world at these two shows," Fleetwood tells ABC Radio, "[but] I think it's really historical."

The drummer adds that he's delighted that The Eagles are returning to the stage.

"I think it's hugely profound for the Eagles that they're coming out and doing these shows," he tells ABC Radio. "And I'm really glad that the band is still existing and seemingly intent on continuing as a band."

As for Fleetwood Mac, so far the two festivals, on July 16 and July 30, are the only announced dates for the band, though guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and singer/keyboardist Christine McVie are doing their own tour starting in June to promote their self-titled duets album.

Copyright © 2017, ABC Radio. All rights reserved

[NightMistBlue]

Bless his heart. I figured he would say something positive but he truly seems like a warm, loving dude.

Thank you, GlennLover!

[secret squirrel]

Not the press exactly but the TV guide. Saw the title of an episode of The West Wing:

Somebody's Going to Emergency, Somebody's Going to Jail.

Sure most of you have seen it before but it's a reminder of how the Eagles have infiltrated everyone's consciousness. Kinda cool.

SS
xx
http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/peter-quinn-rupert-friend-in-homeland.html

[buffyfan145]

Saw this article come up on Glenn's Google Alert that there's some Eagles documentary that was made last year that will be airing on the Ovation channel called "The Long Road". They'll be airing other docs on other classic rock artists too all June. Here's the blurb from the site:

Eagles: The Long Road (2016) - Wednesday, June 7 at 8:00am ET

This documentary pays tribute to the life and career of one of the main band members, Glenn Frey. It revisits the achievements of one of the bestselling and most loved American rock bands of all time. Featuring some of their most popular tracks including "Hotel California", "New Kid in Town", "Life in the Fast Lane", "One of these Nights" and more, follow THE JOURNEY of the life of a true musical icon who will always be remembered.


http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/Ovation-TV-to-Present-Month-Long-Celebration-of-Classic-Rock-Legends-20170517

[Dawn]

Saw this article come up on Glenn's Google Alert that there's some Eagles documentary that was made last year that will be airing on the Ovation channel called "The Long Road". They'll be airing other docs on other classic rock artists too all June. Here's the blurb from the site:

Eagles: The Long Road (2016) - Wednesday, June 7 at 8:00am ET

This documentary pays tribute to the life and career of one of the main band members, Glenn Frey. It revisits the achievements of one of the bestselling and most loved American rock bands of all time. Featuring some of their most popular tracks including "Hotel California", "New Kid in Town", "Life in the Fast Lane", "One of these Nights" and more, follow THE JOURNEY of the life of a true musical icon who will always be remembered.


http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/Ovation-TV-to-Present-Month-Long-Celebration-of-Classic-Rock-Legends-20170517

Thanks for the heads up I saved the air date and am looking forward to watching.

[secret squirrel]

Here's just a piece from UCR re Eagles line-ups.

Might be posted elsewhere. If so, please feel free to delete.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/eagles-lineup-changes/

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/peter-quinn-rupert-friend-in-homeland.html

[Dawn]

Tune in to Good Morning America this Thursday, June 1st to see Earth, Wind & Fire and The Doobie Brothers perform live in advance of The Classic East and West Concerts this July with The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Steely Dan and Journey!

[Dawn]

10 classic rock songs that radio stations need to stop playing now

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/13/10_classic_rock_songs_that_radio_stations_need_to_ stop_playing_now/

[shunlvswx]

Interesting list. I do hear those songs a lot. I don't see radio decreasing those shoes airplay.

[Delilah]

The article is over a year old. Has anything changed since it was published? I don't listen to classic rock stations much anymore but I doubt "Ol 55" has seen increased airplay. I definitely agree with the alternative suggestions for Lynryrd Skynyrd and Van Halen.

[NightMistBlue]

I have started hearing Blondie's "One Way or Another" on a classic rock station.

[Pippinwhite]

I said on the Seven Bridges Road thread that I listen mostly to Sirius, and they have a larger Eagles playlist. I hear a good variety there. I hear them on 70s on 7, The Bridge (32), and Classic Vinyl (26) -- and elsewhere, occasionally, but those are the most likely channels.

But yeah, some of these other chestnuts need to be retired for a while. Although, on Sirius, you are more likely to hear the lesser-known stuff from any band. Best money I spend every three months -- no commercials!

[shunlvswx]

The songs I mostly hear a lot on my local radio station are HC, Life In The Fast Lane, Take It Easy, Take It To The Limit, Peaceful Easy Feeling, The Long Run and Lyin' Eyes.

Sometimes I would hear New Kid In Town and Desperado.

[priscillaupstate]

Don Henley will be hosting a show on the Beatles channel on SiriusXm this Friday at 5pm & 8pm. Sometimes you can get a free trial for online listening..

[UndertheWire]

This is a part of a "Where are they now" for 70s rock bands. Yes, by choosing the first and last line-ups, a former member is ignored, but then they also fail to mention Peter Green for Fleetwood Mac.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/music/70s-rock-bands-where-are-they-now/ss-BBDmJaA?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=LENOVODHP15#image=22

[Jonny Come Lately]

Found this opinion-based list of the best slide guitar solos in music. Although the author is not an Eagles fan, he gives Joe fifth place on his list for his slide solo on Victim Of Love.

http://blog.noahjazz.com/?p=328


That said, Joe Walsh’s slide solo on this song from the Hotel California album is virtually perfect by my definition of what slide guitar should be on a rock song. There is an emotive, wailing quality to the phrasing in the spirit and aesthetic of Duane Allman, while the melodic choices fit perfectly into the “arena rock” framework.

I agree with his opinion on Joe's slide on VOL - I think it's absolutely brilliant. I especially agree about the excellent melodic choices Joe makes. For the record, number one spot goes to Duane Allman for his slide solo on the Allman Brothers' Statesboro Blues.

[buffyfan145]

Just saw this article on Billboard mentioning the Eagles since One Direction has joined them, The Beatles, and others as bands that have had 4 or more members with Top 40 solo hits.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7849421/one-direction-the-beatles-groups-four-members-top-40-hits

[Delilah]

Thanks for the link, Buffyfan! I touched on this in the Billboard Action topic. I'm glad to see Billboard confirm what I suspected about the Eagles' solo successes. I do think it's unbalanced to compare the Beatles who had 4 members to Fleetwood Mac who had about 50. :smile: And counting U2's Clayton and Mullen on "Mission Impossible" (a cover I might add) as 2 separate hits is kind of lame.

[buffyfan145]

No problem Delilah. :) I agree with you too about the other bands. Though did see the 5th member of One Direction Louis Tomlinson is going to release his first single soon too so they might get to 5 by the end of the year. I've noticed too while I didn't care for their boy bandish singles I actually have liked a lot of their solo songs. LOL

[shunlvswx]

Vince's top 5 favorite Eagles songs.
http://www.rollingstone.com/country/lists/vince-gill-my-five-favorite-eagles-songs-w492653

[Dawn]

"The reconfigured group – billed officially as “Don Henley, Joe Walsh & Timothy B. Schmit, with Vince Gill and Deacon Frey” – is taking a measured approach to regaining altitude after the death of co-founder Glenn Frey, Deacon’s father, in January of last year, both in terms of timing and filling Frey’s enormous role.

Variety wrote of the first concert: “If this was a test run for whether a post-Glenn Frey version of the Eagles could pass muster, it augured well on that front, thanks to some smart choices about fill-ins for the late co-frontman. The most obvious live ringer was Frey’s 24-year-old son, Deacon,…looking and sounding spookily like the family patriarch in his most heartthrob-ish post-Troubadour days — and also put on some of the rowdier, earlier songs his father sang….Country great Gill provided as assured a recreation of Frey’s slick soulfulness on ‘Tequila Sunrise,’ ‘Lyin’ Eyes’ and ‘New Kid in Town’ as anyone could.”

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/the-eagles-announce-new-tour-dates-1202526442/

[sodascouts]

"The reconfigured group – billed officially as “Don Henley, Joe Walsh & Timothy B. Schmit, with Vince Gill and Deacon Frey” –

I wondered what the "official billing" was - I figured it was this, but now we have it in black and white.

[Funk 50]

I was sure that the Eagles were working on a contribution to Dan Fogelberg's forthcoming Tribute Album. The most recent reports had Henley and Walsh credited separately but this article, dated 26th August 2017, bills the Eagles as a collective.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/arts/2017/08/26/dan-fogelbergs-ties-nashville-what-you-should-know/580006001/

No information about which track they are performing or whether or not Frey (Glenn) is involved. I think they're preparing to release it around Thanksgiving time.


After Fogelberg died in 2007, Irving Azoff, Norbert Putnam, Chuck Morris, and Jean Fogelberg began to produce a Fogelberg tribute album in Nashville. Many tracks were performed and produced here with artists including Garth Brooks, The Eagles, Michael McDonald, Vince Gill & Amy Grant, Train, Zac Brown Band, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Donna Summer, Dobie Gray, Boz Scaggs, Casey James and more. The tribute album is expected to be released soon.

Garth Brooks would never be billed above the Eagles in the UK!

[Funk 50]

Everybodies favourite support act, "JD & The Straight Shot, will release its vibrant sixth studio album Good Luck And Good Night on September 15th."


Good Luck And Good Night boasts two memorable covers including a rousing rendition of the Three Dog Night classic Shambala chock full of vocal harmonies, and, in homage to friend Glenn Frey, a sweepingly stunning cover of the Eagles’ It’s Your World Now.

http://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/jd-straight-shot-release-new-album

[Glennsallnighter]

Came across this in a Google alert and while strictly a Richard Marx reference the back up by some of the Eagles at the time and his compliments to then surely makes it worthy of a mention

http://www.mauinews.com/life/maui-music/2017/09/delight-in-acoustic-night-with-richard-marx/

[NightMistBlue]

Thank you for that, GA. Richard has worked with some amazing people. Didn't know about the Whitney Houston and Maurice White links.

[Delilah]

Thank you for posting the link, GA. I couldn't help but notice Luther Vandross referred to his Grammy-winning song, "Dance With My Father" as "my 'Piano Man'...my 'Hotel California' "--nice mention of the Eagles' most famous song.

Meanwhile, this is an article from someone of the younger generation who realizes that the Eagles are not so bad after all (and featuring what is one of my absolute favorite pictures of the band).

"The Eagles Are One of the Coolest Bands Ever" The Week, August 14, 2017 (http://theweek.com/articles/717560/eagles-are-coolest-bands-ever?ref=yfp)

[New Kid In Town]

GA and Delilah - Thanks for posting both of them. Never knew Richard Marx and Whitney worked together. She has such a beautiful voice.
Love the article about the guys and he makes good points about every song he discusses.

[chaim]

A nice article, although I don't think it's anybody's duty to love the Eagles. I don't mind if somebody genuinely doesn't like them. It only irritates me when people "hate" them because you're supposed to hate them if you want to be a "serious" music lover.

[Pippinwhite]

Great column. Thanks for posting it! There is absolutely no telling how many hours I've studied and how many tens of thousands of words I've written with Eagles Vol. 1 in the background. I wore out one cassette. Guy knows what he's talking about.

Just like I couldn't stand Nirvana from the first track (apologies to any fans), I loved the Eagles from the first song. Everything about their music just matches my DNA, for want of a better description. They can sing me to Glory with Seven Bridges Road.

[New Kid In Town]

Yep, could not agree more Pippin.
I recognize Kurt's talent but that style of music never appealed to me. JMHO.

[NightMistBlue]

They can sing me to Glory with Seven Bridges Road.

Ooh, what a great phrase. I can't guarantee I won't steal that at some point :)

[Pippinwhite]

NMB-- Have at! :grin:

[eagles557]

My uncle in Seattle sent me this article in the Seattle Times regarding The Eagles playing Safeco Field on September 30th. Good read!

http://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/the-eagles-are-coming-to-town-with-glenn-freys-son-deacon-taking-his-place/

[Delilah]

My uncle in Seattle sent me this article in the Seattle Times regarding The Eagles playing Safeco Field on September 30th. Good read!

http://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/the-eagles-are-coming-to-town-with-glenn-freys-son-deacon-taking-his-place/

Thanks for the link, Eagles557. FYI, this was posted on Don Henley's press thread. A moderator can correct me if I am wrong but I believe this sub-forum is for the Eagles from 1971-2016, based on other posts that were moved to other threads.

EDIT: note to moderators--perhaps a new thread for this kind of information/news can be posted under "Eagles Guests" ?

[eagles557]

Thanks for the link, Eagles557. FYI, this was posted on Don Henley's press thread. A moderator can correct me if I am wrong but I believe this sub-forum is for the Eagles from 1971-2016, based on other posts that were moved to other threads.

Okay, thanks for the info. Good to know!

[sodascouts]

Thanks for the link, Eagles557. FYI, this was posted on Don Henley's press thread. A moderator can correct me if I am wrong but I believe this sub-forum is for the Eagles from 1971-2016, based on other posts that were moved to other threads.

EDIT: note to moderators--perhaps a new thread for this kind of information/news can be posted under "Eagles Guests" ?

Good question and one I hadn't really thought about, but I think since this is a Don interview, his press thread is the appropriate place. We can just do it by who's in it. If it's Vince Gill or Deacon Frey getting interviewed, then it gets put in the "Guest" forum.

[Philh]

Interesting feature including various Eagles about the music they were doing before they were famous.

http://bestclassicbands.com/rock-stars-early-recordings-9-26-17/

[Delilah]

Wow, thanks for the article Philh. With the exception of Randy's "You Send Me", I hadn't heard any of these before, even though I knew they were out there. That doesn't sound like Don Henley at all, lol! I guess the writer forgot about Joe and the Measles, or maybe couldn't find enough about them.

[NightMistBlue]

Interesting feature including various Eagles about the music they were doing before they were famous.

http://bestclassicbands.com/rock-stars-early-recordings-9-26-17/

Wow! Is that Glenn singing lead on the Mushrooms song? In a faux English accent?! Amazing.

I loved every pre-Eagles track. Seems like their primary influences were Beatles and Byrds.

[sodascouts]

That was really interesting - and yeah, Glenn's voice on that sounds so weird if I hadn't been told it was him, I wouldn't have recognized it. I blame Bob Seger!

[buffyfan145]

Just saw not only are the Eagles with Vince and Deacon going to be playing the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville on October 29th, but they're getting a limited Eagles station on Sirius XM in November and will broadcast the Opry performance and more. It's big they're playing the Opry as it's usually only for those in the country music scene and shows how they've played a part in country music.

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/eagles-grand-ole-opry-siriusxm-concert-1202577506/

[FreyFollower]

Just saw not only are the Eagles with Vince and Deacon going to be playing the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville on October 29th, but they're getting a limited Eagles station on Sirius XM in November and will broadcast the Opry performance and more. It's big they're playing the Opry as it's usually only for those in the country music scene and shows how they've played a part in country music.

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/eagles-grand-ole-opry-siriusxm-concert-1202577506/

WSMonline.com always airs the Opry live, so hopefully this will also be the case for those of us who do not get Sirius. Many rock stars have played the Grand Ole Opry. There are two shows each Saturday, with guests usually performing 1 or 2 songs on each, but some only play on one show; as I would guess would be the case. There's not really a bad seat, and they (used to anyway) let you walk up to the stage and take a picture.
As Vince is a member, he will likely be hosting the segment on which they appear. It's a shame it doesn't air on GAC/CMT anymore.

[Pippinwhite]

I have Sirius, but yes, WSM always airs the Opry on their website. I'd love to go, since I'm only 2 hours from Nashville, but I don't see it happening. I'm sure it will be a great show. Something about the atmosphere at the Opry House seems to bring out the best in artists. I'm equally certain there will be a LOT of Eagles fans in the house.

It's really a wonderful tribute to the whole band, and their body of work. Many, many country artists are huge Eagles fans and they will receive a warm welcome from the audience and other artists alike.

[buffyfan145]

WSMonline.com always airs the Opry live, so hopefully this will also be the case for those of us who do not get Sirius. Many rock stars have played the Grand Ole Opry. There are two shows each Saturday, with guests usually performing 1 or 2 songs on each, but some only play on one show; as I would guess would be the case. There's not really a bad seat, and they (used to anyway) let you walk up to the stage and take a picture.
As Vince is a member, he will likely be hosting the segment on which they appear. It's a shame it doesn't air on GAC/CMT anymore.

It's not a normal Opry concert though but a full Eagles one. The article goes into more detail about it. It'll be a big event and saw some fans wondering if this might be filmed which I could see even more with it being at the Opry.

[Delilah]

I thought the article said it was invitation only--so how does one get an invitation (just wondering)?

apologies if this isn't the right place to discuss Eagles + guests

[Annoying Twit]

It's not a normal Opry concert though but a full Eagles one. The article goes into more detail about it. It'll be a big event and saw some fans wondering if this might be filmed which I could see even more with it being at the Opry.

Yes please.

[shunlvswx]

I thought the article said it was invitation only--so how does one get an invitation (just wondering)?

apologies if this isn't the right place to discuss Eagles + guests

You have to be a subscriber to Sirius Radio. I think the cutoff date to do the contest was for anyone that were subscribers before September 12th. They did this same thing with Don. It was only for the people who were subscribers. I'm going to try to do another free 30 day trial so I can listen to it the whole month.

I don't think this will be broadcast on WSM. They don't broadcast concerts that are played there. Just when Grand Ole Opry is on.

[Dawn]

On one occasion, the author writes, Jann got a call from a member of the Eagles in the middle of the night, complaining that Leibovitz had used up all his crystal meth. He replied, “So what do you want me to do about it?’ ”

http://nypost.com/2017/10/22/how-rolling-stone-staffers-lived-sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll/

[Dawn]

On one occasion, the author writes, Jann got a call from a member of the Eagles in the middle of the night, complaining that Leibovitz had used up all his crystal meth. He replied, “So what do you want me to do about it?’ ”

http://nypost.com/2017/10/22/how-rolling-stone-staffers-lived-sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll/

Definitly not planning to read the book but curious if CC has been interviewed.

[Freypower]

Definitly not planning to read the book but curious if CC has been interviewed.

Who is CC?

[Dawn]

Cameron Crowe.

[New Kid In Town]

Wonder which Eagle made the phone call to complain to Werner ? Silly me, I did not even know Crystal Meth was "in" then. I thought that was in much later. I'm sure they all partook, including CC. However, he was still just a teenager so who knows. Don F. mentions Glenn and Don H. "protecting" CC in his book, and being amazed that someone so young was working for RS.

[Dawn]

Thanks NKIT it's been awhile since I read Felder's book, good to know.

CC and Glenn were good friends and I think CC was genuinely fond of Glenn and appreciated his talent as much he did his gregarious, self-confident personality and the "brotherly" advice Glenn would dispense from time to time.

I have no idea who allegedly called Wenner to personally complain but I suspect none of them could/would be happy ... still curious sbout CC and whether he was interviewed for the book those were fast times to be sure.

[New Kid In Town]

I never read about any of the guys using crystal meth. I was surprised by that story but not anything else. Boy RS sounds like it was crazier than the Eagles touring life.

[Delilah]

Wonder which Eagle made the phone call to complain to Werner ? Silly me, I did not even know Crystal Meth was "in" then. I thought that was in much later. I'm sure they all partook, including CC. However, he was still just a teenager so who knows. Don F. mentions Glenn and Don H. "protecting" CC in his book, and being amazed that someone so young was working for RS.

Well, I think we can rule out Randy. Annie Leibovitz doesn’t seem his type and I doubt he was close enough to Wenner that he could simply call him up in the middle of the night like that.

There’s probably a lot of stuff that the band members did that hasn’t been written about.

[sodascouts]

I think that might be a mistake. Our mystery Eagle probably called complaining about coke. It wouldn't be the first time details got a little fudged about something like that.

Crystal meth didn't get going until the 80s, after the government cracked down on injected meth (source (https://luxury.rehabs.com/crystal-meth-addiction/history/)), so the timeline doesn't work with it being a call from an Eagle. I guess it could have been a former Eagle during the "me decade", but more likely Jann has his drugs mixed up.

If it was coke during the 70s as I suspect, then it could have been any of the Eagles except Bernie.

If it is the 80s and crystal meth which I doubt, I suppose it could have been Joe... Glenn did coke until the mid-80s, Don Henley did coke until the early 90s... I never heard of meth. Not sure about the drug habits of the other guys.

[Delilah]

Based on the timeline in the article, I assume this took place in the 70s, although I agree that may not be the case.

I’m not surprised about Randy or any of the guys doing coke or meth (well, except for Bernie). Meth would allow them to stay up all night and party. I just don’t think Randy would be doing it or, ummm, anything else with Annie Leibovitz. Or having the boldness to make a late night call to Wenner to complain about it. It doesn’t seem in keeping with his personality.

[YoungEaglesFan]

I think that might be a mistake. Our mystery Eagle probably called complaining about coke. It wouldn't be the first time details got a little fudged about something like that.

Crystal meth didn't get going until the 80s, after the government cracked down on injected meth (source (https://luxury.rehabs.com/crystal-meth-addiction/history/)), so the timeline doesn't work with it being a call from an Eagle. I guess it could have been a former Eagle during the "me decade", but more likely Jann has his drugs mixed up.

If it was coke during the 70s as I suspect, then it could have been any of the Eagles except Bernie.

If it is the 80s and crystal meth which I doubt, I suppose it could have been Joe... Glenn did coke until the mid-80s, Don Henley did coke until the early 90s... I never heard of meth. Not sure about the drug habits of the other guys.

Why is Bernie being excluded? During most of his time in the Eagles he did coke.

[New Kid In Town]

I think that might be a mistake. Our mystery Eagle probably called complaining about coke. It wouldn't be the first time details got a little fudged about something like that.

Crystal meth didn't get going until the 80s, after the government cracked down on injected meth (source (https://luxury.rehabs.com/crystal-meth-addiction/history/)), so the timeline doesn't work with it being a call from an Eagle. I guess it could have been a former Eagle during the "me decade", but more likely Jann has his drugs mixed up.

If it was coke during the 70s as I suspect, then it could have been any of the Eagles except Bernie.

If it is the 80s and crystal meth which I doubt, I suppose it could have been Joe... Glenn did coke until the mid-80s, Don Henley did coke until the early 90s... I never heard of meth. Not sure about the drug habits of the other guys.

I think you might be right here Soda. Glenn has always been very honest and upfront about the drugs he used. I have never heard any story about meth use from or about him. Don at times tended to be a little more coy about his drug use. I do not see either Randy, Don F. or Bernie making a call like that. Who knows about Joe. I'm surprised they would call Werner since their relation with him was so bad. I can't see them expecting him to sympathize with them when they hated each other.

[sodascouts]

Why is Bernie being excluded? During most of his time in the Eagles he did coke.
Because Bernie was the guy who told Felder not to do more than a little bit of coke at a time, that it was dangerous and he needed to be careful - that it could "fry [his] brain." While everybody else was snorting with abandon, he was proceeding with care. Calling up a guy in the middle of the night, upset because he didn't have a readily available hit? Not Bernie.

[Delilah]

Why is Bernie being excluded? During most of his time in the Eagles he did coke.

By the time Bernie left in 1975, he’d rejected the drugs and the rock and roll lifestyle that he considered unhealthy. He was into surfing, a healthy diet, etc. In fact, that was one of the sources of conflict that led to his exit. That why it’s doubtful he was the Eagle being described in the Post article. I suppose the incident could have happened early enough while he was still doing drugs but that doesn’t fit in with the timeline of Leibovitz’s own drug use as stated in the article.


I think you might be right here Soda. Glenn has always been very honest and upfront about the drugs he used. I have never heard any story about meth use from or about him. Don at times tended to be a little more coy about his drug use. I do not see either Randy, Don F. or Bernie making a call like that. Who knows about Joe. I'm surprised they would call Werner since their relation with him was so bad. I can't see them expecting him to sympathize with them when they hated each other.

I agree Glenn has been honest and upfront about his drug use but always? He seemed to value his privacy more than to reveal every single drug he ever used or anything else of a similar nature that isn’t really anyone else’s business. From the articles, interviews and documentary, various members admitted the “drugs flowed.” I don’t believe “drugs” is a term confined to coke and pot. Well-to-do rock stars would have access to all kinds of stuff and could dabble in this or that, esp. if they thought it helped the creative process. Coke obviously was the drug of choice, though.

There probably was a little fudge in the details as Soda posted, and I’m inclined to believe that Wenner carelessly used the term “crystal meth” when he probably meant plain powdered meth.

[YoungEaglesFan]

Because Bernie was the guy who told Felder not to do more than a little bit of coke at a time, that it was dangerous and he needed to be careful - that it could "fry [his] brain." While everybody else was snorting with abandon, he was proceeding with care. Calling up a guy in the middle of the night, upset because he didn't have a readily available hit? Not Bernie.

I know that he was more careful than the others and quit but he was one of the more bold eagles. In terms of personality I think he would. I doubt Both dons would and neither would randy. I feel like either Glenn or Bernie would the type of guy to do it

[sodascouts]

I'm surprised they would call Werner since their relation with him was so bad. I can't see them expecting him to sympathize with them when they hated each other.

Yeah, the whole story smells funny, honestly. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the mistake was that he remembered the band wrong - that it was a member of Jefferson Starship or something! lol

[Delilah]

I know that he was more careful than the others and quit but he was one of the more bold eagles. In terms of personality I think he would. I doubt Both dons would and neither would randy. I feel like either Glenn or Bernie would the type of guy to do it

Actually, I think Glenn or either of the Dons could have made that phone call. They were the alpha males who wouldn’t hesitate going straight to the top, IMO. I wouldn’t rule out Joe either.

[FreyFollower]

Yeah, the whole story smells funny, honestly. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the mistake was that he remembered the band wrong - that it was a member of Jefferson Starship or something! lol

Right! My first thought after reading that story was that it sounded like bull! How can anybody who was such admitted dopehead be believed to be able to keep his stories straight, anyway?

[Delilah]

Right! My first thought after reading that story was that it sounded like bull! How can anybody who was such admitted dopehead be believed to be able to keep his stories straight, anyway?

Perhaps he kept a journal.

To be fair, Glenn and Don H were also “admitted dopeheads,” yet no one ever seems to question their accounts of what happened back then.

I recently read the book,”You’ll Never Make Love in This Town Again” so my perspective is a little jaded and jolted right now.

[UndertheWire]

Who did the photographs for the RS "Hell Is for Heroes" profile (that's the 1979 Charles M Young piece)? It sounded like Young did plenty of late night partying with Don and Glenn while he was researching, so maybe he supplied the phone number. It could even have been a prank call that was close enough to the truth for Wenner to believe it.

[NightMistBlue]

Crystal meth didn't get going until the 80s, after the government cracked down on injected meth (source (https://luxury.rehabs.com/crystal-meth-addiction/history/))

I think injectable meth was called crystal meth as far back as the 1960s. Some people thought that Tommy James wrote his 1969 hit "Crystal Blue Persuasion" about his experiences with crystal meth, but he denies it.

https://www.crystalmethaddiction.org/History_of_Crystal_Meth.htm

[Dawn]

I think injectable meth was called crystal meth as far back as the 1960s. Some people thought that Tommy James wrote his 1969 hit "Crystal Blue Persuasion" about his experiences with crystal meth, but he denies it.

https://www.crystalmethaddiction.org/History_of_Crystal_Meth.htm

Love CBP talk about a blast from the past ... Tommy James and the Shondells :heart:

Thanks for the link!

I am confused about meth and the different versions but found this info kinda helpful in terms of the timeline.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/etc/cron.html

[Delilah]

Who did the photographs for the RS "Hell Is for Heroes" profile (that's the 1979 Charles M Young piece)? It sounded like Young did plenty of late night partying with Don and Glenn while he was researching, so maybe he supplied the phone number. It could even have been a prank call that was close enough to the truth for Wenner to believe it.

The credits in the RS Special Edition lists Norman Seeff as the photog who took the LR line-up pic, dated 1979 and featured in the “Hell is for Heroes” article. He also took the cover photo showing the LR line-up.

[Pippinwhite]

At least Glenn comes out looking not too bad in the "Make Love" book, as I recall. I read that years ago. It was in our local library. LOL. Maybe I need to find it again.

As for the infamous phone call, a prank call is a distinct possibility. Which, if true, means it might have been an Eagle, and might not have been. If it was a prank call, I can see Glenn thinking that would be absolutely hilarious, and my money is on him, any day -- as a joke. I can almost hear the conversation planning it, now. These were the days before caller ID, and it was a lot harder to get caught. If it was a real call to the top, my bet is DH. I figure Glenn would have just kicked her out and called his dealer, and Joe would have called his dealer. But Don, now... Yeah, I can definitely see him calling Jann to yell at him.

At this point, however, it's all entertaining speculation. No one's gonna cop to it at this late date. LOL.

[New Kid In Town]

Agree Pippin. I could see Don calling and bitching. Remember those famous letters he has been known to send off when angered over something.

I don't think it was Bernie as he was no longer doing drugs by 1975 and it sounded like the time period was after he had left the band. I also could never see Randy doing that, totally out of character for him. Don H. struck me more as the one as he was the one who hung out with Charles Young for the "Hell Is For Heroes" RS interview.

[Dawn]

Yeah, Henley and toilet-paper-gate ... lol

[New Kid In Town]

Dawn - LOL ! Who could forget that ? Charles Young rags on Don about the toilet paper letter in his "Hell Is For Heroes" article. That's one of those things that he will hear forever.

[Delilah]

At least Glenn comes out looking not too bad in the "Make Love" book, as I recall. I read that years ago. It was in our local library. LOL. Maybe I need to find it again.

Oh, I absolutely agree. Without getting into the details it was quite evident Glenn was more caring and respectful towards women than the others in the book.

[East Texas Girl]

Originally Posted by Pippinwhite
At least Glenn comes out looking not too bad in the "Make Love" book, as I recall. I read that years ago. It was in our local library. LOL. Maybe I need to find it again.



Oh, I absolutely agree. Without getting into the details it was quite evident Glenn was more caring and respectful towards women than the others in the book.

Hmmm, maybe this is a book I need to check out ?! :hmm:

[Pippinwhite]

@ETG: Oh, you definitely do!

[New Kid In Town]

ETG - Glenn comes out as very caring and polite in the book. However, I can not say the same thing for Don H. Beware, some of the stories are horror stories in terms of the way the girls were treated. But, it is a good quick read.:blush:

[groupie2686]

Is there a lot about Glenn and Don in this book? I'd like to read it, but I don't want to spend the money if it just mentions them in passing and most of it is about other people.

[East Texas Girl]

Thanks Pippin and NKIT, I will look into it.

[NightMistBlue]

Is there a lot about Glenn and Don in this book? I'd like to read it, but I don't want to spend the money if it just mentions them in passing and most of it is about other people.

They're not mentioned in passing, it's more substantial. I listened to the audiobook, but it seemed like it was a whole chapter on Glenn and Don.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Pippinwhite]

Amazing how many of us have read that book, isn't it? :lol:

Or maybe not...

[NightMistBlue]

I don't know why I read it! I'll never look at George Harrison or ukeleles in the same way... :hand:

[Pippinwhite]

That crossed my mind, too. LOLOLOLOLOL.

[New Kid In Town]

OMG - LMAO - Glenn is one small chapter. Don is two. It is worth the read. Like I said, Don dose not come out looking so good. Just keep that in mind.

[Delilah]

Even though Don doesn’t leave the best impression, at least he’s not like the jerks into pain and torment. I actually skipped thru some parts b/c I couldn’t read anymore.

As an aside, there was a steamy scene involving Matt Dillon.:smokin:


I don't know why I read it! I'll never look at George Harrison or ukeleles in the same way... :hand:

:rofl:

[sodascouts]

The chapters are each about a page, so you're buying the book for three pages of material.

Glenn is the only guy in the book who comes out looking good or, as "Linda" puts it in her terms, "the only one I'd do for free." It wasn't just that he was skilled - although there is that - but it's that he was kind to her. He's the only man in the whole book who treated her with respect.

The book is very sad, if you read the whole thing.

Don is featured in two stories by two different women. He is not cruel, and I wasn't surprised by his hedonism, but the way they paint him in terms of his attitude and ego made him look pretty lame. They have nothing but contempt for him, and it shows.

[Delilah]

The Eagles are listed under one of music’s 30 “fiercest feuds” by Rolling Stone magazine. The band is the 3rd one featured in the article (after Lennon/McCartney and Wilson/Love). They have plenty of company—some of these squabbles I didn’t even know about.

“Music's 30 Fiercest Feuds and Beefs” Rolling Stone, Sept. 15, 2017 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/musics-30-fiercest-feuds-beefs-taylor-kanye-slash-axl-w498640/roger-waters-vs-david-gilmour-w502181)

[New Kid In Town]

Delilah - Thanks, I had read something similar to that a few years ago in RS. This was more in depth and listed a lot more people.

[sodascouts]

Did anybody else have trouble getting the RS page to load properly?

[New Kid In Town]

Soda - I did. I had to close and and it worked the second time I tried it.

Makes you realize the Eagles were not the only ones with some nasty feuds.
I forgot there were so many.

[sodascouts]

I think all the ads flying around are screwing it up for me, as it hasn't worked on multiple tries, but I think I probably know the story anyway!

It's true that in terms of feuding, the Eagles are in good company. Felder is definitely the more dramatic in terms of feuding. Glenn just gave him the cold shoulder; Henley would make the occasional cutting remark in the press, but largely, he did the same. Not much drama there. Felder was the one who wrote the tell-all, took the digs on social media, made the passive aggressive statements in the press, and wrote the song "You Don't Have Me (http://donfelderonline.com/solo/roadtoforever/youdonthaveme.htm)." He knew how to feud.

[New Kid In Town]

WOW - I never read those lyrics before. No guessing who he is talking about. Is the song on Airborne ? I do not have the cd/album.
Soda - You are so right, he sure does know how to feud - for 16 years !

[Delilah]

I think all the ads flying around are screwing it up for me, as it hasn't worked on multiple tries, but I think I probably know the story anyway!

It's true that in terms of feuding, the Eagles are in good company. Felder is definitely the more dramatic in terms of feuding. Glenn just gave him the cold shoulder; Henley would make the occasional cutting remark in the press, but largely, he did the same. Not much drama there. Felder was the one who wrote the tell-all, took the digs on social media, made the passive aggressive statements in the press, and wrote the song "You Don't Have Me (http://donfelderonline.com/solo/roadtoforever/youdonthaveme.htm)." He knew how to feud.

Sorry about the problems with the page. It loads for me but the part about the Eagles doesn’t show automatically—I have to click on an extra link.

The article discusses the VOL recording episode, the Cranston benefit, the disputes over revenue-sharing and the lawsuits. It only touches on what’s been going on since (“the wounds never healed”) and quotes Felder’s statement after Glenn’s death:


When Frey died in January 2016, Felder paid him a warm tribute in the Associated Press. "I had always hoped somewhere along the line, he and I would have dinner together, talking about old times and letting it go with a handshake and a hug."

[NightMistBlue]

That's an interesting, eyebrow-raising article. How do you get to the Eagles section though? My page ends at Nicky Minaj and some person I've never heard of.

OT: Sir Elton was brilliant at the bitchy quips, wasn't he? I hope he's alright - he's been worrying silent about Donald Trump using "Rocket Man" to insult Kim Jon-un.

[East Texas Girl]

When I click the link the first article is about Pink Floyd, but if you click on load previous right above their passage it is the Eagles story.

[NightMistBlue]

Thank you! It didn't work that way for me, but I appreciate you being helpful :)

[East Texas Girl]

Hmm, I guess they are all different; it worked for me that way twice. Oh well, it was worth a try. You are welcome, by the way. :wink:

[Freypower]

WOW - I never read those lyrics before. No guessing who he is talking about. Is the song on Airborne ? I do not have the cd/album.
Soda - You are so right, he sure does know how to feud - for 16 years !

You Don't Have Me is from Road To Forever.

Also remember the way he behaved right after Glenn died when the Grammy tribute was arranged. He whined that he wasn't part of it. As usual, it was all about him, despite any tribute he may also have paid.

[Pippinwhite]

You know, it's kind of odd. Bernie and Randy had just as much reason to stay PO'ed at Glenn as Don. Look at the circumstances under which they left the band. But they made it up with Glenn. No hard feelings. I mean, Glenn (and maybe others) helped pay Randy's medical bills. He was under no obligation to do that. And he and Bernie apparently had buried the hatchet, too. That kind of tells you who's really behind the animosity, here.

I feel like if Don had picked up the phone and said, "You know Glenn, let's just grab a beer and talk," I think Glenn would have given him the opportunity. And if Don had just said, "Look. We were both strung out on coke and we were jackasses. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said and done what I did. I was wrong," then I think Glenn would have responded in kind, and even if they never worked together again, they'd have been cool. And, Don wouldn't have those regrets. And in spite of some of his whining, I think he does have regrets, but now it's too late. And people who know they've behaved badly and don't want to own it sometimes whine about it. Glenn came out and said in HOTE that he knew he hadn't handled things very well. He was absolutely open about it, which leads me to believe a sincere apology from DF would have also received one.

And you know what? We don't know if Glenn, especially when he realized how sick he was, but before he went into the hospital the last time, may have tried to reach out to Don and was rebuffed. We just don't know. (Because, I guarantee Don will never tell if he did, because it would make him look really bad.)

As I said on another thread, I think the takeaway from this very sad situation is to be sure you make your amends before it's too late.

[Freypower]

You know, it's kind of odd. Bernie and Randy had just as much reason to stay PO'ed at Glenn as Don. Look at the circumstances under which they left the band. But they made it up with Glenn. No hard feelings. I mean, Glenn (and maybe others) helped pay Randy's medical bills. He was under no obligation to do that. And he and Bernie apparently had buried the hatchet, too. That kind of tells you who's really behind the animosity, here.

I feel like if Don had picked up the phone and said, "You know Glenn, let's just grab a beer and talk," I think Glenn would have given him the opportunity. And if Don had just said, "Look. We were both strung out on coke and we were jackasses. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said and done what I did. I was wrong," then I think Glenn would have responded in kind, and even if they never worked together again, they'd have been cool. And, Don wouldn't have those regrets. And in spite of some of his whining, I think he does have regrets, but now it's too late. And people who know they've behaved badly and don't want to own it sometimes whine about it. Glenn came out and said in HOTE that he knew he hadn't handled things very well. He was absolutely open about it, which leads me to believe a sincere apology from DF would have also received one.

And you know what? We don't know if Glenn, especially when he realized how sick he was, but before he went into the hospital the last time, may have tried to reach out to Don and was rebuffed. We just don't know. (Because, I guarantee Don will never tell if he did, because it would make him look really bad.)

As I said on another thread, I think the takeaway from this very sad situation is to be sure you make your amends before it's too late.

Perhaps, but I suspect Felder was probably blocked from being able to call Glenn after he was fired.

[NightMistBlue]

Yeah, as far as we know, Bernie and Randy didn't get into extended legal battles with the Eagles. When lawyers get involved, it gets way more complicated.

[Pippinwhite]

It certainly does, NMB. No doubt about that.