Eagles Mentions in the Press (2006 - 2017)

[Restless Heart]

I know this is late but in reply to that earlier article count me among those who want to hear new music too.

I remember Sebastian Bach. I used to like him when I was younger. Good to see he has good taste in music. ;)

[Brooke]

That's pretty amazing that he likes the Eagles so much! Just doesn't seem the type! :lol:

[DJ]

I just came across a website called Theuncool.com the official website about everything Cameron Crowe. There is a great QA with the Eagles from RS article #196. circa 1975. I'd have copied/pasted but there's swearing in it. Good Read.
Probably already seen by all but thought I'd give it a shout out.

[Witchy Woman]

Sebastian Bach is an amazing singer, and it's a shame he can't or won't reconcile with his former bandmates in Skid Row. It's awesome that he appreciates and knows great music when he hears it.

[tjh532]

Great Article DJ - I hadn't seen that before. Thanks for sharing!

[WalshFan88]

Very cool article. Never guessed Baz as an Eagles fan... He's a great singer.

[GlennLover]

Just hot this in a Google alert: http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-522728/ Righteous Brother, Bill Medley talks about how "Desperado" changed his life.

[tjh532]

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing that. I love how at the end he says that the song feels like an old friend. Isn't it amazing how songs that have meant so much to us can feel like that?

[Houston Baby]

That was a touching story. I love Bill Medley and this makes me love him even more. It is amazing but not surprising how the Eagles' songs touch so many.

Now if they would have gotten the names on the photo line up correct. Bernie is Glenn and Glenn is Bernie. Reminds me of the opening credits of The Monkees show when they kept putting Peter's name on the other guys. :hilarious:

[sodascouts]

Just hot this in a Google alert: http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-522728/ Righteous Brother, Bill Medley talks about how "Desperado" changed his life.

What a great testament to the Eagles' abilities!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks GL. I love reading how our guys' inspire people, including other talented artists!

[Glennsallnighter]

I've just posted that in the retro thread without realising it was here. Great story. I love how our guys have inspired others!

Better go delete it! Lol.

[Thirsty&Hot]

love those Bill Medley and Sebastian Bach articles!

This article talks about a new Laurel Canyon exhibit at the Grammy Museum in LA that just opened May 9 and will run until November. I will definitely be checking it out when I'm there this summer!

There's a mention of the Eagles...Henry Diltz quote :)


Laurel Canyon Music, Vibe Moves to Grammy Museum (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/laurel-canyon-music-vibe-moves-grammy-museum-23673371)



things that will be on display: (from the Grammy Museum website (http://www.grammymuseum.org/on-display/special-exhibits/laurel-canyon)):

Richie Furay’s (Poco) 1970s “Nudie” Suit;
Costumes, instruments and ephemera from the Modern Folk Quartet;
Jim Morrison’s (The Doors) writing chair;
Arthur Lee's (Love) 6 String Flying V guitar;
Cass Elliot’s (The Mamas and the Papas) c.1960s, hand painted chair;
Original photography of Henry Diltz and Graham Nash from the era;
Exclusive interviews with various artists and industry experts;
Original menus, scrapbooks, handbills, and posters;
And more!

it will be cool if they have some piece of Eagles memorabilia there!

[secret squirrel]

Great find, SS! I love him, I saw them with Guns 'n Roses at the Forum in 1991.

I used to fancy him, very briefly and bought one single.

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/im-on-fire-shakey-graves.html

[Victim of Love]

Jack Tempchin posted this pix on his FB page -- part of the Laurel Canyon exhibit. Definitely includes some Eagles items.

[DJ]

https://eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1066&d=1400025033 (https://eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1066&d=1400025033)
LOOK, IT'S RANDY'S BASS!!!

[GlennLover]

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss232/1Cdn/e16d1dd4640aa48c37096347d1f8eb14_zps3cf360a5.jpg

[sad-cafe]

Randy with the mustache is my favorite look for him

[Thirsty&Hot]

Jack Tempchin posted this pix on his FB page -- part of the Laurel Canyon exhibit. Definitely includes some Eagles items.

yeah I saw that on FB too! but not sure how many more things...or how exciting they are.. haha. like a lyrics sheet doesn't excite me that much unless it was maybe Glenn's handwriting or something.
I wonder if they have any outfits on display...
or what they would even be if they did have outfits on display...those 2 outfits to the right look pretty generic.

some things that might be cool to see:
an original "party plane" shirt..
3E pins...
black and gold eagles jacket (tho now you can own your very own of those clothing items)
the "Fart" shirt? haha
an Eagles medallion? (tho i would guess they would hold those very dear to them)
a guitar..(is that really Randy's bass in the photo?)

what would YOU like to see on display?

[MaryCalifornia]

Bernie's turquoise flower bracelet. Pictures of the guys performing with their various bands prior to Eagles.

[Brooke]

I'd like to see one of the famous medallions and a pair of Glenn's patched jeans!

[UndertheWire]

I'd like to see one of the famous medallions and a pair of Glenn's patched jeans!
I'd like to the the size label on those jeans. Just how skinny were these guys?

[GlennLover]

Here's an interesting article about Hotel California:http://projects.scpr.org/static/infographics/hotel-california/

[Thirsty&Hot]

I'd like to see one of the famous medallions and a pair of Glenn's patched jeans!

oh the jeans! that's a good one!

[Thirsty&Hot]

Bernie's turquoise flower bracelet. Pictures of the guys performing with their various bands prior to Eagles.


I love Bernie's turquoise flower bracelet! I wonder if he still has it.

[Thirsty&Hot]

Here's an interesting article about Hotel California:http://projects.scpr.org/static/infographics/hotel-california/

hmmm that doesn't seem right haha
I feel like ...especially in more recent years...they would perform HC at every show! I feel like it's their most well known song...as in even people who aren't Eagles fans know HC and know it's an Eagles' song.

[GlennLover]

hmmm that doesn't seem right haha
I feel like ...especially in more recent years...they would perform HC at every show! I feel like it's their most well known song...as in even people who aren't Eagles fans know HC and know it's an Eagles' song.

I think they would have played it more too.

I know it says that it is a partial list of concert set lists, but it doesn't even include the two dates when I saw them. Of course they played HC.

[Freypower]

There are a lot of problems with that. It could not have been performed in 1975 because it hadn't been written. I don't know how the percentages have been calculated because they have played it as you say at every show since they reformed. Surely they did more shows in 1977 than that! Surely there were more shows in Japan in 1979 than one.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I agree that that list is way off. I can think of numerous shows that aren't on the list, including several that I attended myself. I would be extremely surprised if there has ever been an Eagles show since Hotel California was released where it was not played.

Now, as far as Glenn's patchwork jeans, there is a brown pair (probably the ones he is wearing in the footage of he and Don performing with Linda Ronstadt) that is in the band's display at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. If my memory serves me correctly, they weren't very large. They were some pretty skinny boys indeed. Definitely worth checking out if you are ever in the Cleveland area. :thumbsup:

[prayfordaylight]

The number is way off because setlist.fm's data pre-2000s is spotty at best. Even if they have pre-HFO tour dates listed, the vast majority of them don't have set lists.

[GlennLover]

I got this article. In a Google alert & I have posted in the [Don Felder In the Press[/I] thread as well. http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/ex-eagle_don_felder_surprised.php?page=2 I think every one should "Get Over It" & move on. We've heard it all before, ad nauseum. They are not going to be "friends" again so let it go.

BTW, it is only Don H that calls him 'Mr Felder'.

[UndertheWire]

I got this article. In a Google alert & I have posted in the Don Felder In the Press thread as well. http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/ex-eagle_don_felder_surprised.php?page=2 I think every one should "Get Over It" & move on. We've heard it all before, ad nauseum. They are not going to be "friends" again so let it go.

BTW, it is only Don H that calls him 'Mr Felder'.

Last week, I said I thought it was a marketing ploy. So I just checked on ticket availability for his Houston gig on Sunday and there are a lot of unsold seats (it looks to be only 50% sold).

[shunlvswx]

I got this article. In a Google alert & I have posted in the [Don Felder In the Press[/i] thread as well. http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2014/05/ex-eagle_don_felder_surprised.php?page=2 I think every one should "Get Over It" & move on. We've heard it all before, ad nauseum. They are not going to be "friends" again so let it go.

BTW, it is only Don H that calls him 'Mr Felder'.

I agree. Don called Don Mr. Felder not Glenn.

Glenn called Don F either Don Felder or Felder. It made sense since their were two Dons in the group at that moment. Glenn even called Don H "Henley." To tell the truth. I think they called Don H "Henley" sometimes because I heard Timothy and Joe called him that too.

Other than that part in the HC era, I don't even remembered Don H ever saying Don F name. Oops. I forgot also the "I guess" line.

It was an interesting article.

[UndertheWire]

This was also posted in the Felder thread but belongs in the main section, too. Classic Rock magazine have made a previously unpublished interview from 2001 available online. You have to register to read but you don't have to subscribe.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/2014-05-14/exclusive-previously-unpublished-eagles-interview

Don Henley, Glenn, Timothy and Joe talk about their plans to record a new studio album. They sound relaxed and optimistic. The Felder firing does get a mention but that's been discussed in the Felder thread.

They talk about Don Henley as the Lyric Police and this is what he has to say:

Nobody likes a know-it-all, Don.
Don Henley: That’s true. But what I learned about lyrics, and rejecting lyrics, I learned from Glenn and (early Eagles collaborators) J.D. Souther and Jackson Browne. So it’s just coming back to haunt them. They made me the opinionated prick that I am today! Now Glenn’s pretty good at policing lyrics himself. Sometimes I will defer. We all get too close to things to see them sometimes, and it’s great to have him come in, if I get stuck he’s great at unsticking. He wrote some of the best parts of Hotel California and Desperado too. I get credit for a lot of that, but the fact is that he wrote some of the pivotal lines that I wouldn’t have thought of in a million years.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for posting this, UTW. The band did, in fact, sound very relaxed in that 2001 interview. I'm glad to hear Don once again set the record straight about the band's lyric polices. Unfortunately, no matter how many times they say it, I think people have a tendency to believe that the member that sings most of the song is the one that wrote it, especially when it comes to the lyrics.

And although it took them six years more years after this interview before releasing LROOE, I personally think they very successfully achieved their goals as defined by Glenn and Don in these quotes ...


Is there an element of fear in making a new album – that it might not match your past work?

Glenn Frey: Yeah, we’ve talked about that. It’s a double-edged sword. Whatever the Eagles do is going to be highly scrutinised. There’s going to be a lot of expectation. But on the other hand, I really don’t think we would do anything that would tarnish our legacy. We discussed it: what do we want to do, what do we expect out of this? And the genesis of it was: we’re going to be the Eagles! We’re going to make a record with the talent that we have. And I think… well, we won’t put it out if it’s bad, how about that? I just figured it out!

Don Henley: Certainly, we don’t want to fail. We’ve never really known much failure. And I can’t think of another instance where a band has not made an album of new material in twenty years and has then made a triumphant return. So that, to me personally, is pressure – to prove that we can do it. And that’s why we’ll do this as quietly and as low-key as possible, behind closed doors. I just don’t think we’ll go to the lengths that Axl Rose goes to – to keep people away.

[tequila girl]

Love this quote from Don
They made me the opinionated prick that I am today!
Hahaha Gotta love the man!! :heart:

[GlennLover]

This was also posted in the Felder thread but belongs in the main section, too. Classic Rock magazine have made a previously unpublished interview from 2001 available online. You have to register to read but you don't have to subscribe.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/f...gles-interview

Don Henley, Glenn, Timothy and Joe talk about their plans to record a new studio album. They sound relaxed and optimistic. The Felder firing does get a mention but that's been discussed in the Felder thread.

They talk about Don Henley as the Lyric Police and this is what he has to say:

Quote:
Nobody likes a know-it-all, Don.
Don Henley: That’s true. But what I learned about lyrics, and rejecting lyrics, I learned from Glenn and (early Eagles collaborators) J.D. Souther and Jackson Browne. So it’s just coming back to haunt them. They made me the opinionated prick that I am today! Now Glenn’s pretty good at policing lyrics himself. Sometimes I will defer. We all get too close to things to see them sometimes, and it’s great to have him come in, if I get stuck he’s great at unsticking. He wrote some of the best parts of Hotel California and Desperado too. I get credit for a lot of that, but the fact is that he wrote some of the pivotal lines that I wouldn’t have thought of in a million years.

That's very interesting, UTW. It's so true that Glenn's lyric contributions have often been downplayed or discounted, especially on these two songs. I have read a number of articles that suggest that Glenn had little or no input into the lyrics of Hotel California. It's nice to hear from the horse's, or in this case Eagles', mouth that this isn't the case.

[bluefeather]

Don's quote about being an opinionated prick:rofl:

[Freypower]

That's very interesting, UTW. It's so true that Glenn's lyric contributions have often been downplayed or discounted, especially on these two songs. I have read a number of articles that suggest that Glenn had little or no input into the lyrics of Hotel California. It's nice to hear from the horse's, or in this case Eagles', mouth that this isn't the case.

The quote by Henley about Glenn's lyrical contribution needs to be seen by all the detractors who claim that he didn't/can't write lyrics, starting with Don Felder.

[shunlvswx]

We have proof that Glenn wrote some of the lyrics to Get Over T. As the end credits were rolling on HFO, you can hear Glenn telling Don the line, "Complain about the present and blame it on the past." He probably wrote more to that song. I always thought Don wrote majority of that song because that's so him, but I think there are line in that song or any song that Glenn and Don wrote together could be their personality.

[GlennLover]

The quote by Henley about Glenn's lyrical contribution needs to be seen by all the detractors who claim that he didn't/can't write lyrics, starting with Don Felder.

Here, here!!! :thumbsup:

[SilverMoon]

Last week, I said I thought it was a marketing ploy. So I just checked on ticket availability for his Houston gig on Sunday and there are a lot of unsold seats (it looks to be only 50% sold).
Don Felder's May 23 concert in St. Augustine, FL is sold out:

http://staugamp.sjcvenues.com/e3793_Styx-Foreigner-Don-Felder.aspx

[Thirsty&Hot]

Eagles made #2 in the Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time: The Complete List (http://m.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/02/17/top-20-worst-bands-of-all-time-the-complete-list?page=19) in the LA Weekly.

clearly the writer is a moron...and judging from the comments...many agree haha

[Freypower]

Eagles made #2 in the Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time: The Complete List (http://m.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/02/17/top-20-worst-bands-of-all-time-the-complete-list?page=19) in the LA Weekly.

clearly the writer is a moron...and judging from the comments...many agree haha

That was over two years ago.

[prayfordaylight]

http://www.americansongwriter.com/2014/05/lyric-week-eagles-wasted-time/

Lyric of the week: Wasted Time

[MaryCalifornia]

Great find, PFD. Love this song, so nice to see it acknowledged. It is my iPhone wake up alarm for 6:30 and 7:00, while D-D/D(R) is 6:45 and 7:15.:thumbsup:

[Thirsty&Hot]

That was over two years ago.

oh you're right...i didn't notice the date..it showed up in my facebook feed so I thought it was new.

[Houston Debutante]

This was also posted in the Felder thread but belongs in the main section, too. Classic Rock magazine have made a previously unpublished interview from 2001 available online. You have to register to read but you don't have to subscribe.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/2014-05-14/exclusive-previously-unpublished-eagles-interview

Don Henley, Glenn, Timothy and Joe talk about their plans to record a new studio album. They sound relaxed and optimistic. The Felder firing does get a mention but that's been discussed in the Felder thread.

They talk about Don Henley as the Lyric Police and this is what he has to say:
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Don as the lyrics police, I can just see that, reminds me of that video where he was a teacher and handing back papers! :lol:

[UndertheWire]

Here's an analysis from 2006 of why Greatest Hits was the best-selling album in the US.
http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_4133162

I was surprised, too, but I thought that maybe I just didn't understand american culture.

On a more serious note, in 2002, Jack Tempchin, JD Souther and Jackson Brown sued Warner/Chapell for underpayment of songwriting royalties for songs on the Greatest Hits album. [Note the suit was against the publishing company representing those artists and not against the Eagles or their management]

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/feb/27/business/fi-eagles27
http://articles.latimes.com/2002/nov/23/business/fi-eagles23

[secret squirrel]

Don't know if this has been posted here or not yet.

http://www.americansongwriter.com/2014/05/lyric-week-eagles-wasted-time/

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/gordon-gano-impure-charisma.html

[Freypower]

This is not a particularly good way of starting the tour coverage.

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/the-best-and-worst-of-the-eagles-20140522-zrkuz.html

Of course I think he is wrong about Heartache Tonight (is he even talking about the correct song? We all know the huge burst of energy which ends it) but he could have included one of Glenn's other songs in his 'best' list.

[Victim of Love]

FP, you're right that it isn't the most flattering of articles ever written about our guys, especially with their first European show just a few short hours away. However, as I read Peter Vincent's article I reminded myself that it's just one opinion - and that global ticket sales for HOTE serve to prove the negatives to be so very off the mark! I just hope Vincent doesn't feel obligated to attend a show and write a review. And if he does, he should take a bathroom break during Heartache Tonight!

[GlennLover]

HT is one of my favourite songs. The audiences at the concerts certainly don't agree with his opinion. I don't think I have ever heard it panned before.

[secret squirrel]

Here's an article re Oz tour. Like the way our boys are already telling people what to do.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-fans-have-to-stay-in-their-seats-and-put-away-their-phones/story-fni0c1az-1226926087860

SS
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http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/gordon-gano-impure-charisma.html

[UndertheWire]

Glenn spoke to a WA newspaper about taking the tour to Perth.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/music/a/23723664/eagles-to-kick-off-oz-tour-in-perth/

[sodascouts]

Good to see Glenn doing some press. Usually Don seems to handle it, and while Don is quite well-spoken of course, he also has a tendency to be a bit grumpy-sounding and display an old-fogey attitude that is decidedly uncool.

For instance, one of the first articles promoting the tour is this one (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-fans-have-to-stay-in-their-seats-and-put-away-their-phones/story-fni0c1az-1226926087860). Who promotes their tour by talking about how rigid the rules of proper concert behavior will be??? While there's a bit of ink devoted to more positive aspects (about seven sentences or so), the vast majority of it comes off as NO PEOPLE WHO PRESUME TO STAND WITHOUT PERMISSION, NO VIDEO-TAKERS, NO PEOPLE WHO TAKE MORE THAN WHAT THE BAND CONSIDERS A "FEW" PHOTOS, NO SMARTPHONE USERS DURING CONCERTS WANTED! STAY HOME, YOU "INCREDIBLY SELFISH" JERKS! THE BAND SEES YOU AND VIEWS YOU WITH CONTEMPT AND DISGUST AS A "GREAT ANNOYANCE"!

Amidst all this is info on how to buy tickets. Yeah, this concert sounds like a blast! Sign me up!

Of course, it is evident from the many shows I attend that I think it IS a blast and well worth the money, but Don makes it sound like school. I especially hate the way he makes it sound like the band is spending their time judging you from the stage instead of concentrating on giving you the best show they can.


We have our security people gently tell them to sit down.
"Gently"? Many threaten to throw you out! To be fair, though, we can't blame the band if some of their Blackshirts abuse the power they've been given. Maybe they haven't been told to make that threat within seconds of giving the first "warning." I'd like to believe that.


We don’t want our shows posted on You Tube. It spoils it for people who are going to come to a show in the future. We’d like for them to experience it for the first time in the audience rather than experience it on a crappy video that sounds horrible.
Yeah, because people are holding guns to the heads of future concert-goers to force them to watch the YouTube videos before they attend.

Rhetorically re-framing the "no YouTube" rule as an unselfish act that helps fans is a good idea, but only if it can be logically supported. Otherwise, it is rather unconvincing.

The copyright argument from earlier in the paragraph is valid, although the Eagles' efforts to keep their content off of YouTube (which has been going on for some time now; even PopGala's "How Long" was taken down back in 2007) is misguided and damaging to the band, IMHO.

Let me add that I respect and admire Don Henley. He is an amazing singer and songwriter - one of the best. I just believe he needs to stop this public crusade to control fan behavior, if for no other reason than to focus on cultivating goodwill for the band as these types of rants do the opposite. The amount of time he spends griping about fan behavior in the press is ridiculous. He's been complaining about all this AT LENGTH for YEARS now. YEARS. How about talking about the music more, Don? Spending more time reminding people why they love the Eagles and would enjoy the show?

This is one of the greatest bands in the world. Their music is powerful; their voices are incredible; their current concert is filled with rich history, rare nuggets like the "Doolin-Dalton / Desperado Reprise" as well as the myriad of hits listed that please the casual fan. The addition of Bernie, which does at least get some ink in the interview, is tremendous. I know I've only been a fan since 2005, but these are the best Eagles shows I have ever seen. As I've said before, these concerts are epic. This show is a must-see for any fan of the band; it's a hardcore fan's wet dream.... but Don wants to talk about the Eagles' concert rules and his scorn for those who disobey. He needs to FREAKING LET IT GO.

[NYC Fan]

Soda-

Completely agree with you. I love Don, but he's pretty much in "get off my lawn" territory here.

Not sure what the solution is, but it seems like a pretty alienating stance for a rock band to take.

[Freypower]

FP, you're right that it isn't the most flattering of articles ever written about our guys, especially with their first European show just a few short hours away. However, as I read Peter Vincent's article I reminded myself that it's just one opinion - and that global ticket sales for HOTE serve to prove the negatives to be so very off the mark! I just hope Vincent doesn't feel obligated to attend a show and write a review. And if he does, he should take a bathroom break during Heartache Tonight!

He probably will be writing the review in Sydney as he appears to have replaced Bernard Zuel as the Herald's music critic Zuel slammed them on both their previous tours. This guy will no doubt do the same with the exception of a couple of nice words about Henley.

As far as Henley's comments I am suitably chastened & if I attend a show probably won't even attempt to take any photos.

If they hate YouTube so much, they could always have released a DVD of the LROOE tour, and one of this tour. That appears to be asking too much of them.

As for Glenn, I am glad he remembered his After Hours show, and at least he tries to sound as if he is looking forward to the tour.

[tjh532]

In regards to the Youtube issue - there are some fans that for whatever reason - be it economic, distance, whatever - that will never get to see their favorite band live. A performance on youtube will be their only opportunity to see/hear their band onstage. Obviously it doesn't compare with being there live. But it is the next best thing. And though they think they need a tight rein for copyright reasons, I think the pros outweigh the cons. There are a lot of times that I am just poking around on youtube and come across someone I've never heard before. Or I might hear about an artist and can go listen to them.Either way, if I like what I hear I usually head over to itunes to download some of their music. It's great advertising if you ask me.

[MaryCalifornia]

But Soda, tell us how you really feel...:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

[WalshFan88]

Agreed Soda on all counts.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

The last couple concerts I went to, they did allow a few pictures to be taken. I didn't feel comfortable taking advantage of it because I know how they feel about it. I sort of wish I had at the Raleigh concert since I remember so little of it now. I might feel differently in Sept and take a few if they still allow it, but we'll see. Glenn very definitely shook his head 'no' at me when he saw my phone at the NYC shows last November, when pictures were allowed, so his thoughts on it were pretty easy to read.

None of them strike me as the type, and Don especially, to do something that goes against what they believe in just to look 'cool' or to 'try and fit in'. In a lot of ways I admire that. They don't need to prove anything to anybody. They may be in the minority in how they handle their concerts, but they are far from the only ones who feel the way they do.

I do think the 'black shirts' (who weren't anywhere in sight in Cincinnati) were more than a little over-eager at getting people to sit the second night in LA. Of course, they weren't nearly responsive enough, in my opinion, the first night.

[sodascouts]

None of them strike me as the type, and Don especially, to do something that goes against what they believe in just to look 'cool' or to 'try and fit in'. In a lot of ways I admire that. They don't need to prove anything to anybody.

Only to a certain degree. These men work in the entertainment industry. They know they need to care about how they are perceived.

A simplified scale:

AWESOMELY COOL--------------------------------------UTTERLY LAME

The Eagles may not care about being perceived as "awesomely cool" anymore, but somehow I don't think they want to be perceived as "utterly lame" either. Right now they are closer to the left, but each one of these rants moves them in the wrong direction!

I agree that it is admirable to stick to one's beliefs even if they are not popular. However, you don't have to go against what you believe in order to exercise tact and restraint in what you choose to talk about. We're talking about refraining from repeatedly ranting about fan behavior, not speaking out against human rights violations or something.

If Don truly believes he has a moral imperative to exhort Eagles fans to turn away from their sinful concert behaviors lest they incur the band's wrath and be cast into the outer darkness by security... if he believes that talking about the music instead of delivering a fan behavior sermon is an abhorrent betrayal of his belief system.... then I guess we could admire his single-minded devotion to his moral imperative if not the imperative itself.

I imagine he has a bit more perspective than that, though. I just wish that sense of perspective would give him a nudge during these interviews.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I totally get the band's stance on videoing and people standing at concerts when others aren't and blocking the view of those behind them, on a song that doesn't rate standing up (think Saturday Night vs. Life In The Fast Lane). What's more, I TOTALLY AGREE with that opinion. As for videos and incessant photos (of which I've been guilty of myself) I agree with that one as well, from the perspective of having to watch an entire concert through the cell phone of the person in front. You look at it as a rant against fan behavior and how totally lame it is. I look at it as sticking up for the great fans they have who aren't natured to make a scene or even strongly ask someone to put their camera down lower or to sit down. I feel they are sticking up for the vast majority of the people who have paid for a seat. Perhaps in the interview, Don wanted to warn people that if they plan on being an inconsiderate jackass, perhaps they shouldn't waste their money going to the concerts because it won't be tolerated?

Anyway, while Don was the one in the interview, he's not the only one in the band that feels this way. It's Glenn that tells the fans during the concerts, if needed. We can all rant against Don, but it's a band decision, and it surely wasn't Don that shook his head at my camera, and it wasn't Don who motioned to me to sit down during the second Atlantic City concert in 2012.

They are one of the most successful bands in the history of music, they're still at the top of their game, and are still selling out large arenas as a single band. Most of those who still tour from the 70's and 80's have to double up with another big-named band in order to fill the seats. I'm thinking they know what they're doing, and what they're doing is working. I've heard far too many people sit in those seats and hear the 'rules' about cameras and standing and feel a sense of relief over it to think our guys are totally out to lunch on this one. I thought he handled it well in the interview, and I choose to look at it as being considerate--letting people know the rules before spending money on a ticket. In my opinion, it'll sell more seats than not.

I agree they should be careful about how they get their point across, and it doesn't work to be boorish just because a few in the audience are being boorish. However, I didn't feel the statements in the interview crossed any lines.

[secret squirrel]

If they hate YouTube so much, they could always have released a DVD of the LROOE tour, and one of this tour. That appears to be asking too much of them.

Exactamundo. We saw them on the LROEE tour and the DVD would be the perfect gift for our Dad (that we could borrow) - he's forever asking if they've put one out yet. can't believe they didn't record any of it ...

SS
xx
http://secretsquirrelshorts.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/gordon-gano-impure-charisma.html

[UndertheWire]

As the Farewell 1 DVD was such a success, maybe they're waiting for the Australian tour to record the current tour.

[sodascouts]

WARNING: I realize this post is way overlong but I'm having trouble editing myself, and this is a lazy day for me as school doesn't start up again for a few days. What's below is the result of too much time on my hands. ;)


I totally get the band's stance on videoing and people standing at concerts when others aren't and blocking the view of those behind them, on a song that doesn't rate standing up (think Saturday Night vs. Life In The Fast Lane). What's more, I TOTALLY AGREE with that opinion. As for videos and incessant photos (of which I've been guilty of myself) I agree with that one as well, from the perspective of having to watch an entire concert through the cell phone of the person in front. You were the same nice person and genuine fan when you took videos and photos as you are now, yet according to Don's definition, you were "incredibly selfish" back then. Maybe you've bought into his characterization of your past behavior, but I think you're being too hard on yourself. I think you were just as good a fan then as you are now.

I think the same about Peekaboo, Freypower, Maleah, and the many other genuine fans who have taken more than a few photos during a show.


You look at it as a rant against fan behavior and how totally lame it is. I look at it as sticking up for the great fans they have who aren't natured to make a scene or even strongly ask someone to put their camera down lower or to sit down. I feel they are sticking up for the vast majority of the people who have paid for a seat. Perhaps in the interview, Don wanted to warn people that if they plan on being an inconsiderate jackass, perhaps they shouldn't waste their money going to the concerts because it won't be tolerated? I have taken photos, and I cherish the memories they evoke long after the concert is over. I took two videos of Timothy B. Schmit at his solo shows, one song in 2009 and one song in 2011, because they're so rare. I took a video of a couple songs from Glenn's Los Angeles show in 2008 when he performed songs he never has before and probably never will again. Only one came out, but it is the only known recording in existence of him doing "Werewolves of London." I have stood during "Already Gone", "Those Shoes", "Rocky Mountain Way", "How Long" and "Seven Bridges Road" when people around me weren't. I have been to shows where people around me stood at NO TIME during the ENTIRE SHOW... not even when the Eagles said it was OK. Do I have to stay in my seat during "The Long Run" because the people around me aren't moved by the music and would rather rest their feet and eat nachos? I'm just as "great" a fan as they are, if not more so. Make no mistake - it's the casual fans, not the "great fans", who make up the majority of the audience... chatting through the show, making multiple beer runs during performances, leaving early to beat traffic... THEY get to determine whether or not I stand?

Then again maybe they're considered better fans than I am by some, because according to the definitions provided, I'm NOT a "great fan." I'm one of the "incredibly selfish" fans who is a "great annoyance" to the band. That's how this article makes me feel, anyway, even if Don didn't mean it like that... but maybe he did. I don't know. That's the problem.

See, this type of interview doesn't just alienate jackasses - and I do recognize there are some jackasses. I've seen them; I've been next to them and behind them myself. I understand why your personal experience with someone filming in front of you the whole time informs your opinion. I agree that extreme behavior like that isn't cool, and it surprises me that no one said anything to this person. I am not an advocate of jackassery (I'm making up words now, lol).

This interview lumps us all together, though. That hurts. It hurts worse because I believe they're nice guys. I believe they care about their fans; I know firsthand that Glenn does. I don't believe Don is intentionally being hurtful... but he's being hurtful nonetheless.

I'm lucky enough to be recognized by Glenn on occasion, and I treasure that. He's my favorite male singer and someone I ardently admire. It's hard for me to post this kind of thing about his band's policies. I don't enjoy criticizing the Eagles. I don't do it lightly, and I certainly don't do it mean-spiritedly. If I see them unfairly maligned, I'm right there defending them. Evidence of that is all over this board. However, I'm sick of this and I feel I need to say something. I'm not going to keep quiet just because I love them. That would go against MY beliefs. It would also make me a hypocrite.


Anyway, while Don was the one in the interview, he's not the only one in the band that feels this way. It's Glenn that tells the fans during the concerts, if needed. We can all rant against Don, but it's a band decision, and it surely wasn't Don that shook his head at my camera, and it wasn't Don who motioned to me to sit down during the second Atlantic City concert in 2012.
Oh, I know Don and Glenn feel the same way about videoing and standing. It's just Glenn has the good sense not to insult some fans in his interviews.

If Glenn were the one saying such harsh things, then I'd be criticizing him. I don't change my views once I find out they might displease Glenn Frey. I give his opinions serious consideration because they come from someone I respect, but I make up my own mind.

I do refrain from the unsanctioned behaviors out of deference to the Eagles' wishes because it's their show, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not going to say Don's the champion of the "great fans" in this article when that group apparently doesn't include me.

I'll be a good little girl during the shows, and I'll have a good time anyway. The Eagles will make me forget all the bad feelings once they start singing those amazing songs with those incredible voices, provided they don't bring me down again by chastising people from the stage. Their music is more powerful than any of this stuff.

I still encourage people to attend their shows. The show is FANTASTIC and worth the money; the show is only spoiled if the security is really aggressive and ugly, which I don't think happens too often. I think Lissa and I just had bad luck at the LA Forum. However, if I'd gotten treated like that every time, I would've stopped going to shows. Me, who's been to so many shows, who adores the Eagles with all my heart, who thinks they've made some of the best music in the history of rock'n'roll and who runs fan sites dedicated to them, who has eagerly shoved my money into their pockets and considered it a privilege to be able to hear them play... I would've stopped going to shows.

For people like me, their shows are fantastic DESPITE this stuff, not because of it. For people like me, it serves as a distraction from the music. I know everyone is not like me, but I don't feel I should be discounted either.


They are one of the most successful bands in the history of music, they're still at the top of their game, and are still selling out large arenas as a single band. Most of those who still tour from the 70's and 80's have to double up with another big-named band in order to fill the seats. I'm thinking they know what they're doing, and what they're doing is working.This argument doesn't take into consideration that before they started all this, they were still selling out stadiums. What brings people in is their awesome music, not their fan behavior policies.

Plus, I think they're self-aware enough to understand that their success does not automatically validate every decision they make.


I've heard far too many people sit in those seats and hear the 'rules' about cameras and standing and feel a sense of relief over it to think our guys are totally out to lunch on this one. I thought he handled it well in the interview, and I choose to look at it as being considerate--letting people know the rules before spending money on a ticket. In my opinion, it'll sell more seats than not.You think these condemnations of wayward fans will make people more eager to see the Eagles. I certainly don't have any statistical proof otherwise.

However, my personal experience differs from yours when it comes to the opinions of people around me. I remember when Lissa was yelled at by security during "Already Gone" and she was threatened with expulsion - there wasn't one person around us going "YES! SO GLAD THE EAGLES ARE LOOKING OUT FOR US! KICK THAT GIRL OUTTA HERE!" They were outraged on her behalf and many of them encouraged her to stand up anyway. We, of course, were too frightened of being thrown out to do so at that point, but like I said no one I could see was cheering the Blackshirt on.

At any rate, while I see what you're saying, I don't think that this "problem" is worthy of the amount of time Don dedicates to it in the press. I think the way he harps on it distracts from the music. It's in the freaking HEADLINE!


I agree they should be careful about how they get their point across, and it doesn't work to be boorish just because a few in the audience are being boorish. However, I didn't feel the statements in the interview crossed any lines.That's our fundamental disagreement. I think Don was way too personal. I don't think he should say ugly and hurtful things about some of the fans, many of whom are nice people that have done such things at other shows without problems - even with encouragement from some bands.

My friend Kristin stands during the entirety of a Stevie Nicks concert, even if no one else is. She is the sweetest girl you can imagine. She just adores Stevie so much she wants to dance the whole time, even if it's just swaying. It's like a religious experience for her, and while admittedly sometimes I wish she would sit down when it's just her in our section, that's my hang-up. Is she "incredibly selfish" for standing? No, I don't accept that characterization of my good friend. I don't think it's fair.

The Eagles are adored by many, and that gives them the power to hurt those people badly with their words. If for no other reason, that should be enough to make them think twice about being insulting towards some fans in interviews. If he must speak of all these rules, he could at least refrain from the personal disparagement.

As always, though, this is JMHO, and I recognize that perfectly reasonable and intelligent people like VA may not agree with it. I'll still passionately defend it, though. Summer vacation allows me to do so at length, lol.

And no matter what...

THE EAGLES ROCK!!!

[sodascouts]

As the Farewell 1 DVD was such a success, maybe they're waiting for the Australian tour to record the current tour.

That would be great! How I wish we'd had one from LROOE. Since this tour is so historic, it would be perfect for such a thing.

[Houston Debutante]

I'm sure Don didn't mean to include people like you Soda, I think he could have maybe chosen his words better but he is going after the jackasses.

Also if the band says it's okay to stand than you can stand even if people behind you aren't standing, right? I think that's okay, that's what I did in Houston.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Well, Soda, I agree that they were over the top with how they handled PLS and you at the second LA show. In fact, I think the band would think security was out of line on that one. Like I said, though, the boorish jackass in front of us the first night was allowed to stand for way too long before he realized they were serious about kicking him out.

Yes, I'm not normally a selfish person, or so I like to think, but I'll be the first to admit that taking so many pictures, especially the second night in Atlanta was over the top. I had my camera up over my head to keep from getting the people walking in front of me in the pictures. I'm sure the people behind me watched most of the concert through the screen. I won't say I was selfish, just clueless. If I'd realized what I was doing and kept doing it, then yes, I'd say I was at the height of selfishness, regardless of how I am in day to day living.

The band is in the best position to see the people weaving and swaying to see around the cameras and people standing, as well as the looks of annoyance on their faces. I still say they are looking out for the majority of their fans. At a concert, it's about the people who've paid to be in the seats, and a good fan respects the wishes of the band. They are OK with people standing up after about the seventh song.

I mentioned this in the Raleigh thread and it bears repeating. I was in the aisle seat, front row there, and the security guy told me I could stand on the opening strains of Already Gone. He asked me twice after that to stand. He mentioned that others would stand and dance if I did. Those beside me wanted to but for whatever reason didn't because I didn't. I wanted to, I was just far too ill to stand. The point is, the band would like people to 'move' during that song, so obviously you and PLS weren't in the wrong in LA, security was.

I will say this, Soda, I've never seen you stand when you weren't supposed to (regardless of what security thought in LA), and I've never seen you sit through a concert with your phone blocking the view of those around you. I don't think Don's comments were directed at you or people like you. His comments were directed at people like the boor in front of us at the first LA concert, and I really hope that kind of person was insulted and doesn't buy any more tickets, especially if they would be in front of me. It is totally OK to stand during Long Run (and the other songs you mentioned), even if no one else is. I mean, if you have a handicapped person behind you who can't stand easily, that's one thing, but normal people can and should stand during this song if they want to see over someone who is standing and enjoying it.

BTW, I never took any videos at any concert. I don't even know how, which is actually kind of aggravating as having video of my nephew's confirmation last week would have been nice, but I never have time to read the manual.

[sodascouts]

I understand, VA. And I'll just leave it at that, but I do want to post this hilarious photo - it's from an article commenting on the policy, used as an illustration of what to do during ballads:

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/news/39471/You-need-permission-to-stand-up-at-an-Eagles-gig

http://ic.f.tsatic-cdn.net/1312/635_340/b4df6_1312062.jpg

[MaryCalifornia]

That picture is hilarious.

I think their message is intentional and strategic - the guys know that probably 90% of ticket revenue comes from people who are over 45 who do not want to stand for 3 hours at a rock concert. The message is that their show is meant to be enjoyed like a performance you would enjoy at the symphony or opera or even on Broadway. There may be a point where the music gets rockin' and the audience stands, but otherwise, it is "an evening of music with the Eagles." It is not a Katy Perry or Justin Timberlake concert, the same rules do not apply. You can expect to be comfortable and not bothered by your neighbors. They need to keep the oldsters who can afford the tickets comfortable and coming back show after show. (And yes, I know there are many of us who are not oldsters, especially not me :eek:) Unfortunate, though, that the message seems to be so "strong" Down Under, don't know what happened there.

[Freypower]

That picture is hilarious.

I think their message is intentional and strategic - the guys know that probably 90% of ticket revenue comes from people who are over 45 who do not want to stand for 3 hours at a rock concert. The message is that their show is meant to be enjoyed like a performance you would enjoy at the symphony or opera or even on Broadway. There may be a point where the music gets rockin' and the audience stands, but otherwise, it is "an evening of music with the Eagles." It is not a Katy Perry or Justin Timberlake concert, the same rules do not apply. You can expect to be comfortable and not bothered by your neighbors. They need to keep the oldsters who can afford the tickets comfortable and coming back show after show. (And yes, I know there are many of us who are not oldsters, especially not me :eek:) Unfortunate, though, that the message seems to be so "strong" Down Under, don't know what happened there.

Nothing happened in 2010. You have seen some of my photos, I take it? I took a huge number of them. There were absolutely no problems & dare I say it, one Eagle in particular seemed to enjoy the fact that I was taking his photo so often (the evidence is towards the end of his photo thread). Since 2010 their policy on this appears to have hardened significantly, and they now want us to know it. At this stage it seems unlikely that I will be able to take any photos. However I do note that Don said something about not minding the occasional still photo; it's the constant filming he hates.

What I don't do is stand up unless others do & at an Eagles show it really doesn't bother me. I have also never attempted to take video.

I would say though that I wasn't supposed to take photos of solo shows here either, but at the Opera House everyone did & nobody tried to stop them.

[MaryCalifornia]

I am referring to this week's Australian newspaper articles re: the HoTE tour in 2015 - specifically the link that Soda posted above. I don't know anything about articles from 2010 announcing that tour or what Don Henley's message to fans was at that time.

[Freypower]

I am referring to this week's Australian newspaper articles re: the HoTE tour in 2015 - specifically the link that Soda posted above. I don't know anything about articles from 2010 announcing that tour.

I know that but when you said 'don't know what happened there' I thought you might want to know how things went on the previous tour as far as taking photos went. I don't see the Australian press stuff as particularly different from what has been said by them in the recent past about this.

My point is that it appears this tour will be much stricter & less fun than 2010 was, in line with the rest of the world.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I've had a lot of fun at all of them, but then, perhaps I'm an 'oldster'! No comments, please... :D

[Thirsty&Hot]

Good to see Glenn doing some press. Usually Don seems to handle it, and while Don is quite well-spoken of course, he also has a tendency to be a bit grumpy-sounding and display an old-fogey attitude that is decidedly uncool...

.... but Don wants to talk about the Eagles' concert rules and his scorn for those who disobey. He needs to FREAKING LET IT GO.

Hahaha I've noticed this too! I love this rant. Right on. And yes we still love you Don!

[WalshFan88]

http://ic.f.tsatic-cdn.net/1312/635_340/b4df6_1312062.jpg

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Thirsty&Hot]

Austin..I love your current Joe signature photo!!

[Witchy Woman]

Some guy from Forbes magazine finally got around to watching HOTE. Here is his review :

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2014/05/23/a-special-documentary-the-history-of-the-eagles/

[Ive always been a dreamer]

First of all, I love that picture - it is hilarious! And thank you, VA and soda for a very intelligent debate. You both make some very excellent arguments, IMO, and I can see legitimacy in both viewpoints. Bottom line for me is I don't have a problem with the band's policy, but I do have a problem if the delivery of the message comes across as condescending, parental, or harsh.

I'm going to repost part of what I wrote in my review of my last show that I saw in D.C. because that was the one show I remember where I felt the band handled things perfectly. Here's some of what I wrote ...


... I thought they made it very clear exactly when standing was okay and the audience complied. Nothing was ever mentioned after the pre-show announcements until right before Heartache Tonight. At that point, Glenn said something like … ‘We want to thank everyone for being so attentive and being respectful by remaining seated. But, that portion of the program is now over. It’s time to get up and move your body.’ The audience got up, yelled and applauded, and remained standing for the rest of the show.

I didn’t hear anyone complaining at all. I’m actually okay with their policy as long as they make it clear like they did that night. I just don’t like it when they reprimand the audience or leave it up to the audience to guess when or if it’s okay to stand. Are there other songs that I would personally like to stand for earlier in the show – Yes. But, I can live with the way it was handled in D.C. – it’s a good compromise. Those who want to sit (or are short like me) get to see a good portion of the show without their view being obstructed, but you also get a chance to rock out for a good while at the end.

[ktdids]

http://ic.f.tsatic-cdn.net/1312/635_340/b4df6_1312062.jpg

See, proof that Don is always right! (As if! LOL!)

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Uh-Oh!! A back-and-forth between two of my faves! All stuff we've already read and knew, but UCR is making it out to be a war of sorts.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-robert-plant/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yep - nothing like spicing things up with some journalistic sensationalism! :twisted:

[thelastresort]

Not strictly the press but my second favourite guitarist ever has just said this about my favourite ever! Glad to know he's a Joe Walsh fan!

http://instagram.com/p/ob6qpVo6Qz/

[thelastresort]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11259648

New Zealand Herald piece / interview with Henley. In it he hits back at claims from Robert Plant that they reunited because they were 'bored'. Makes for a decent read. RS has a similar article which is just an abridged version with the typical anti-Eagles comments.

[tequila girl]

No matter how hard I try I can't imagine Don using the word 'mate'


What did the doco mean to you? Was it like a weight off your shoulders?
Actually we left a lot of things out, mate.

It's a word that gets a lot of usage in certain parts of the UK - but is it also used in US? somehow it just doesn't seem right.....

[UndertheWire]

It's widely used in Australia, so presumably New Zealand, too. Maybe he was just trying a bit of localisation.

[tequila girl]

Ahh Yes, I suppose so......I still think it would've sounded weird coming from Don though! :hilarious:

[shunlvswx]

I found this article on Facebook. 20 years ago today, The Eagles performed their first show together on the HFO tour in Irvine, CA.

http://theboot.com/eagles-hell-freezes-over-tour/

[NYC Fan]

No matter how hard I try I can't imagine Don using the word 'mate'

[B]

It's a word that gets a lot of usage in certain parts of the UK - but is it also used in US? somehow it just doesn't seem right.....

That jumped out at me too. I can't imagine a good Texas boy like Don using the word mate. Agree that maybe he was localizing it. I have a friend who lives in England that I travel with, a boss who is originally from Dublin, and I probably watch way too much British TV. I find myself unconsciously using words and phrases I've picked up that I know are very Irish and English. But it does crack me up thinking of him saying that in his Texas twang :-)

And no, it's not regularly used in the US, that I know of. At least not in NY.

[thelastresort]

I hope he said it in a dodgy London accent like Bill Symczyk * did in HOTE :lol: (when discussing his phone call to Glyn Johns)

* - no idea how you spell it!

[Freypower]

I hope he said it in a dodgy London accent like Bill Symczyk * did in HOTE :lol: (when discussing his phone call to Glyn Johns)

* - no idea how you spell it!

There wasn't any need to use a London accent when he was talking to a New Zealander. The word is far more common in Australia, though, or at least that is what I assumed.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Wow! This is, of course, separate from the 'rules' that have been laid down since then, and nothing to do with our guys at all. It just happened at their concert in Minneapolis last year.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/01/the-eagles-fan-lawsuit-police-officer-minneapolis/

[Ive always been a dreamer]

:hmm: Pretty vague on the details ... hard to say what really happened there.

[sodascouts]

Heaven knows security can go on power trips and be heavy-handed - I had one grab my arm one time - but getting physical to that degree, with REAL police (as opposed to rent-a-cops) and an arrest? I suspect she was drunk or high, and acting really out of control.

[MaryCalifornia]

Great pic of the guys TMZ used!!

[GlennLover]

Interview Don did with Australian media: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/don-henley-talks-resentment-jealousy-and-bustups-as-eagles-put-egos-aside-for-australian-tour/story-fni0bvjn-1226943002053

[UndertheWire]

Interview Don did with Australian media: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/don-henley-talks-resentment-jealousy-and-bustups-as-eagles-put-egos-aside-for-australian-tour/story-fni0bvjn-1226943002053
I like that he acknowledges a couple of common criticisms of the doc:


Guitarist Joe Walsh has his rehab documented by the documentary.
“One thing in the documentary that is a little bit unfair is that he certainly wasn’t the only one who had problems,” Henley says. “We all did. But he chose to speak about his a little more freely than the rest of us and that’s his right to do that. We were all right there with him.”
and



Don Felder has claimed that the feuding between Frey and Henley has been downplayed in the film.“To a degree,’ Henley admits. “There really hasn’t been too much to that, there’s certainly none of it on film. We have had our differences, we still do, but we’re a lot like brothers. We fight but we’re still family.

[GlennLover]

I like that he acknowledges a couple of common criticisms of the doc:

and

I had the same thoughts when I read those criticisms, UtW.

[bluefeather]

Great pic of the guys TMZ used!!

definitely, I love the Timothy pic of course

Don's interview is a good read, I like that the write acknowledges things like the Henley-Frey feud and Joe's problems but not in a judgemental way. Also nice to see Don agreeing with the interviewer and not just downright thrashing his interpretations.

[thelastresort]

Interesting stuff from Henley on Felder. Seems a bit more 'warming' than I would expect judging by other sources.

[Houston Baby]

Good interview! Thank you for posting GL!

[Zanny Kingston]

Great Read- Thanks for posting GL!

[Freypower]

He says his albm will be out in September. He says it is POSSIBLE there could be another Eagles album.

I don't detect any particular 'warming' towards Felder; he doesn't want to talk about Felder & he makes that obvious. He is very specific on the 'whole is greater than the sum of the parts' implying that Felder was the one who didn't understand that.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Henley is releasing his own solo album in September, and says there has been “a bit of talk” about a new Eagles album. “We don’t want to force one unless there’s some enthusiasm for it.”

I would be SSSSOOOOOOOOO happy!

[thelastresort]

I don't detect any particular 'warming' towards Felder; he doesn't want to talk about Felder & he makes that obvious. He is very specific on the 'whole is greater than the sum of the parts' implying that Felder was the one who didn't understand that.

Ah. Read it back and realised the 'brothers' comment was in regard to the whole band.

[Freypower]

Ah. Read it back and realised the 'brothers' comment was in regard to the whole band.

Actually, I believe he is referring to his relationship with Glenn:

Don Felder has claimed that the feuding between Frey and Henley has been downplayed in the film.
“To a degree,’ Henley admits. “There really hasn’t been too much to that, there’s certainly none of it on film. We have had our differences, we still do, but we’re a lot like brothers. We fight but we’re still family.

[Thirsty&Hot]

I would be SSSSOOOOOOOOO happy!

yeah...who is he kidding? haha there would definitely be enthusiasm for it! can't they tell by the sold out stadiums?

[sodascouts]

Oh my gosh... New Eagles album.... Holy crap!!! I would be thrilled!

And like FP said, the statement about brothers quoted was in regard to the Frey/Henley relationship, as the reader can see from the question he was answering.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

yeah...who is he kidding? haha there would definitely be enthusiasm for it! can't they tell by the sold out stadiums?

I have a horrid feeling he might have meant their enthusiasm and not ours!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

OMG - I can't even wrap my brain around the thought of another Eagles album ... that would just be more than awesome!!! :pray: :pray: :pray:

[GlennLover]

I have a horrid feeling he might have meant their enthusiasm and not ours!

Thay's the way I read it.

[ktdids]

Don seems to be enjoying things right now, the break must have been good for everyone! The thought of another album is almost too good to be true, but I'm feeling all giddy about it anyway! I'll settle for Don's album sooner than later though, while they all get their creative juices flowing...

[Brooke]

Wow, new Eagles album? I had never even imagined the possibility! And wouldn't that mean another tour? Endless thoughts! Happy, happy, happy!

[UndertheWire]

How many years? They have a week's break between Dublin and London. Wouldn't it be neat if they could drop into a studio with Glyn Johns and record half an album?

[Midnight Visitor]

How many years? They have a week's break between Dublin and London. Wouldn't it be neat if they could drop into a studio with Glyn Johns and record half an album?

Funny. I can't really see that ever happening. Glyn is retired and didn't seem too in love with working with the Eagles. Not to mention Glenn's, ummm, it just doesn't see very likely does it?

[UndertheWire]

"In those days we did everything fast."

[secret squirrel]

Mainly Don but relevant to all as mentions HC. Gotta say I totally agree with him. Ask for a licence if you want to use someone's song. It's not to do with being old-fashioned, it's about respect and integrity.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/04/the-eagles-don-henley-frank-ocean-okkervil-river-song-theft

SS
xx
http://pistoriusontrial.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/oscar-pistorius-has-gad-guilt-anxiety.html

[Thirsty&Hot]

I have a horrid feeling he might have meant their enthusiasm and not ours!

ohhh:brickwall:

[thelastresort]

To be fair though what could give you more enthusiasm than realising forty years later you can still do a 100-day tour over two continents and sell out practically every night?

[Thirsty&Hot]

To be fair though what could give you more enthusiasm than realising forty years later you can still do a 100-day tour over two continents and sell out practically every night?

Seriously!:thumbsup:

[Elizasong]

Hello,

I am reading the autobiography from Paul Stanley of KISS and he recalls when they performed for a bunch of industry people the first time in California.

On February 18th Casablanca unveiled KISS at a party in Los Angeles. Before they finished playing everybody cleared the room. Too loud, too garish they complained. "Hey we weren't the Eagles. No comfortable volume of songs about being desperate in a desert. We were East coast and proud of it and thought the whole west coast cowboy things was a bit of a joke."

Ironically there is a picture of Paul Stanley and Glenn Frey at the RRHOF.

[Freypower]

Here is the Kiss thread:

https://eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3988

[Elizasong]

Ok, Feel free to move my post if you feel it doesn't belong in this section. Thanks.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I think FP meant it as a reference for more KISS posts. It's an Eagles Message Board, so an Eagles mention trumps the rest, so it should be in the Eagles forum. If I were to move it, it would be to the Eagles Press thread, but perhaps it's just me.

[UndertheWire]

The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/09/band-reunions-kinks-oasis-libertines) has a piece about bands reuniting and naturally includes the Eagles in the examples.

The heady power of being in a band is the invisible elastic that will, almost always, eventually prompt one musician to pick up the phone to their estranged colleague and ask them if, hey, they fancy getting back together. Because however agonising it was back then, (a) you're still the only people with that shared experience (no one else quite understands you like an old bandmate); (b) a reunion makes your audience happy in a way your solo stuff rarely does; and, most compellingly, (c) bitch gotta make rent.

It seems there is no inter-band bust-up so awful that cannot be mended by the judicious bringing to bear of (a), (b) and (c). After a decade of substance abuse and serial infidelity, the Eagles (http://www.theguardian.com/music/eagles) had descended into a complex but bitter intra-band rivalry measured out in the amount of drugs ingested and groupies procured, and brought to a head by niggling personal habits. "No one else can suck the fun out of a room," said Glenn Frey about Don Henley – possibly referring to the drummer's habit of penning letters to the studio's maid with specific instructions on how the toilet paper should be folded(the little pink flowers needed to be folded on the undersides of the sheets, this being how they did it in Hotel California presumably). As the 70s drew to a close, the rivalries intensified. Don Felder: "I bought my wife Susan a beautiful kimono, hand-embroidered, in heavy material. Don Henley bought 20."

Before a concert in Long Beach, California, tensions between Felder and Frey came to a head when Felder took umbrage at the backstage presence of Frey's politician friends. The pair exchanged insults on stage ("I'm gonna kill you", "Bring it on, asshole!"). After the gig, Felder vented his rage on his guitar – only for Frey to issue the fabulously catty riposte: "Typical of you to break your cheapest guitar." A week later, inevitably, the Eagles were no more. The band, of course, would drily name their reunion tour Hell Freezes Over – an allusion to Henley's stock answer when asked if there was any likelihood of the band reforming. No one was pretending the Eagles were best buddies once again. We're all a little older and more pragmatic. At the beginning, bands grow out of friendship; and at the end, well, bands grow out of those friendships.

[Thirsty&Hot]

‘It was inappropriately titled’: Did ‘History of the Eagles’ focus too much on Glenn Frey and Don Henley? (http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/06/10/it-was-inappropriately-titled-did-history-of-the-eagles-focus-too-much-on-glenn-frey-and-don-henley/)

welll I can't say I'm complaining, but I suppose if it could have been longer and included the background/biographies of all of the members, I would've dug that too.

I guess they figured Glenn and Don were the founding members and therefore, how they got their start was most important in the formation of Eagles.

[Freypower]

What else do you expect Don Felder to say.

[thelastresort]

Obviously Felder would say that but he does have a point I think. You find out every little detail of Henley and Glenn's backgrounds but practically zilch on Randy's history or Felder's considerable stints with Crosby, Stills and Nash (in various combinations); and very little on Bernie or the James Gang and Joe's long involvement with hard rock dating back to the late 60s. Mention is made of Poco for TBS but again nothing on his longer term background. One of very few shortcomings of HOTE I felt.

[Zanny Kingston]

I was giving this whole thing some thought and something did come to mind- is it possible the other band members may not have wanted to have a deep dive into their personal histories for the HOTE doc?

We know Felder would not have been sensitive about it as he wrote a book about his life, but we don't really know if everyone else felt the same way. Randy and TBS and Bernie seem to live quiet lives and I can certainly respect that. Joe revealed a lot about his decline and his recovery, but earlier in his life, he did suffer a horrible loss and perhaps there were some decisions made in light of that.

As Far as Don and Glenn's history goes, I think it was relevant to the for us to learn how they both ended up going to CA and eventually met, that is where the Eagles history starts to play out.

[sodascouts]

I can see what you mean about some being protective of their personal history, but they barely even touched upon professional histories. I understand why Don Henley and Glenn would get more time spent on their background, but I was a bit surprised that the others got almost nothing. I think Felder has a valid point in that regard.

However, that decision was made by Elwood and co, not Glenn and Henley.

[ktdids]

Maybe they should have made a 7 part documentary series, one part for each member of the band, just to get EVERYTHING in. Just kidding!

[UndertheWire]

The full Felder interview is at Rock Cellar (http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2014/06/06/don-felder-flying-solo-interview/2/#sthash.ato7jARa.YWDOiWEB.dpbs).

I thought it was inappropriately titled as History of the Eagles. It should have been titled The History of Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Bernie Leadon was in more successful bands than anybody in the Eagles before he joined The Eagles. He was in a band called Hearts and Flowers; he was in the Flying Burrito Brothers so he’d been on the road and toured and made records. Randy Meisner had been in Poco and had hits with them and he had also been in the Rick Nelson Stone Canyon Band.

Both of those guys had a more successful history prior in The Eagles than Don Henley and Glenn Frey and all of that was omitted. To say nothing of my history growing up Gainesville (Florida) and being with Stephen Stills, Bernie Leadon, Tom Petty, Duane Allman and all of that history that went on before we all wound up being in the Eagles. The time that was spent primarily focused on Don Henley and Glenn Frey versus anyone else in the band as completely lopsided.
To me, that’s okay; it was their project, they controlled it and they paid for it so it can be any way they wanted it to be. When I was asked to come in and be a part of it it was a tough decision because I knew that whatever editing took place would most likely not be favorable to me. But I wanted to be represented as being part of the project so I went and sat there for probably three, three and a half hours being interviewed and I bet they used five minutes of the interview, which is typical of projects like that. But I think it was just a little lopsided; it should have been called The History of Henley and Frey.


Felder has a point, but he's also wrong in some aspects. There was footage of Bernie in The Flying Burrito Brothers and Bernie talking about leaving that band and if there had been decent footage of Randy in Poco, I think it would have been shown. However, I'm also sure Felder told his stories about Duane Allman, Stephen Stills and Tom Petty and they didn't make the cut (probably because they were peripheral to the Eagles story).

It was a documentary commissioned by the "Eagles" and if Glenn and Don had been unhappy with the final results, it could have been buried like the 1977 documentary and the 800 page authorised biography. I bet the initial negotations went further than "We're going to tell the truth" and took in the overall approach and focus. Within those constraints, Gibney and Ellwood obviously thought they had a worthwhile story to tell (and most of us agree).

If you're looking at a band with a 40-year history where you have two people who have been there throughout, who wrote and sang the majority of their hits and who now have control of the brand and they're paying you, who would you focus on?

[UndertheWire]

Who do you want to book for your private event?

On the music side, many of the most important artists of all time, like Bob Dylan (min. $US250,000) and Patti Smith (min. $US250,000), can be had for an arguably shameful bargain. It also appears possible to order specific band members individually, and it’s interesting to see who costs more: Don Henley (min. $US250,000) is the most expensive Eagle, followed by Glenn Frey (min. $US150,000) and Joe Walsh (also min. $US150,000). The band itself costs at least $US750,000.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/celebrity-booking-rate-list-2014-6

Don Felder min. $50,000
http://www.celebritytalent.net/sampletalent/1130/don-felder-%28of-the-eagles%29/

I couldn't find a price for Timothy. Maybe he doesn't do corporate gigs.

[Houston Baby]

Someone on the board needs to WIN the lottery!!!

[Brooke]

Definitely, HB! :shock:

I wish the HotE doc would have been longer and given more details of Randy and Bernie too. But, with all of the members 40 year history, it would have been long! I guess they stuck with Glenn and Don as being founders and had to stop somewhere, but I would love a complete one someday.

[Thirsty&Hot]

Dads Get Free Father's Day Lap Dances At LIC Strip Club (http://gothamist.com/2014/06/12/lapdance_dads.php#.)

my boyfriend sent me this with the instructions to just pay attention to the first paragraph! :)

I'll just quote it here to spare you haha


There are lots of presents you could bestow upon your father for Father's Day—Drop Crotch Acid Wash Lounge Sweatpants, for instance, or The Eagles: The Complete Greatest Hits. But these gifts are easily misplaced or forgotten, and doesn't Dear Old Dad have enough of Glenn Frey's music, anyway? This year, give the man who sired you what he really wants—a lapdance.

:hilarious:

I said: there's no such thing as too much Eagles/Glenn Frey!

[Houston Baby]

ITA with you T&H. :)

[Brooke]

T&H, too funny!

[sodascouts]

Who do you want to book for your private event?

On the music side, many of the most important artists of all time, like Bob Dylan (min. $US250,000) and Patti Smith (min. $US250,000), can be had for an arguably shameful bargain. It also appears possible to order specific band members individually, and it’s interesting to see who costs more: Don Henley (min. $US250,000) is the most expensive Eagle, followed by Glenn Frey (min. $US150,000) and Joe Walsh (also min. $US150,000). The band itself costs at least $US750,000.http://www.businessinsider.com.au/celebrity-booking-rate-list-2014-6

Don Felder min. $50,000
http://www.celebritytalent.net/sampletalent/1130/don-felder-%28of-the-eagles%29/

OK, folks, let's pass the hat around! ;)

Didn't we hear somewhere that the Eagles charged a million a pop for corporate gigs? Maybe you get 'em for less if you promise to donate part of the proceeds to Walden Woods, lol.

Maybe Timothy's price is negotiated per appearance. Despite his talent, he's not the kind of "name" that corporations want to book, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be interested in a quick $50,000 if someone were to approach his management (I wonder if his solo projects are managed by Azoff too).

Same for Bernie Leadon or Randy Meisner (if his health permitted). That would actually be pretty epic because they never play solo. I'll approach them the next time I have a few tens of thousands of dollars to spare, and I'll be sure to make it a Border party! ;)

(Perhaps they are fortunate none of us can afford them! We'd be requesting obscure numbers no casual fans have ever heard, pestering them about when they're going to release new music, and fawning all over them the entire time, whereas most corporate or private gigs have people munching on dinner while the band plays and are happy to hear a 90 minute set of the Greatest Hits.)

[Thirsty&Hot]

(Perhaps they are fortunate none of us can afford them! We'd be requesting obscure numbers no casual fans have ever heard, pestering them about when they're going to release new music, and fawning all over them the entire time, whereas most corporate or private gigs have people munching on dinner while the band plays and are happy to hear a 90 minute set of the Greatest Hits.)

hahaha YUP!

[tjh532]

hahaha YUP!

If you have to be careful about when you can stand and sit at one of their concerts, can you imagine how they would feel about you eating while they played? haha

Black shirt:"I'm sorry ma'am, those carrot sticks are too loud. I'm going to have to ask you to put them down, or step outside. The other folks at your table can't hear over you crunching."

[GlennLover]

For the most part this reporter "get's it".
I don't agree with this paragraph though http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/185949/9
[QUOTE Of course, this is partly down to the fact that they dispensed with the idea of a bona fide frontman, with each Eagle singing lead vocals on an alternating basis. It also doesn't help that the lion's share of the crooning is done by drummer Don Henley. Although his rasp is a rich, distinctive thing of honey-soaked beauty, imagine the Rolling Stones with Mick Jagger tub thumping away out of view, and that contextualises its strangeness. Of course, this is partly down to the fact that they dispensed with the idea of a bona fide frontman, with each Eagle singing lead vocals on an alternating basis. It also doesn't help that the lion's share of the crooning is done by drummer Don Henley. Although his rasp is a rich, distinctive thing of honey-soaked Of course, Of course, this is partly down to the fact that they dispensed with the idea of a bona fide frontman, with each Eagle singing lead vocals on an alternating basis. It also doesn't help that the lion's share of the crooning is done by drummer Don Henley. Although his rasp is a rich, distinctive thing of honey-soaked beauty, imagine the Rolling Stones with Mick Jagger tub thumping away out of view, and that contextualises its strangeness.[/QUOTE]

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I loved that article! I'm not sure I've ever said that before. Yes, that second paragraph was questionable, but this guy really gets it. The Eagles don't need the stage antics, they have the songs. It's all about the songs. Of course, as any woman in the 70's, 80's (as solo artists), 90's, 00's, and 10's knows, the visuals are pretty good too! :faint::woah: :smitten:

[GlennLover]

I loved that article! I'm not sure I've ever said that before. Yes, that second paragraph was questionable, but this guy really gets it. The Eagles don't need the stage antics, they have the songs. It's all about the songs. Of course, as any woman in the 70's, 80's (as solo artists), 90's, 00's, and 10's knows, the visuals are pretty good too! :faint::woah: :smitten:

Sorry, that wasn't the paragraph that I meant to quote. I was in a hurry & my iPad wasn't cooperating. :brickwall: This is the paragraph I wanted:


Furthermore, one Rolling Stone writer once accused the group of “loitering on stage” during their live shows, and it's true none of them possess the archetypal rock star charisma, stage presence or over-the-top showmanship necessary to be the public face of the band. In the world of rock ‘n' roll, this only makes the Eagles phenomenon all the more extraordinary.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Sorry, that wasn't the paragraph that I meant to quote. I was in a hurry & my iPad wasn't cooperating. :brickwall: This is the paragraph I wanted:

Well, I do agree with that paragraph, because to me, what he meant was that the Eagles have never had to rely on 'antics' to put on a good show. There's no stage rising up out of the floor, there's no dangling from the ceiling or swinging out into the crowd. There's no pyrotechnics, backflips, smashing of guitars, ripping clothes off (which is a darn shame :nahnah: ), choreographed dancing while lip sync'ing, a lead vocalist out front rubbing himself against a microphone stand, etc. They've never needed any of that.

[Brooke]

No they didn't! It was all about the music and everyone loved it! And still do!

[shunlvswx]

I'm not really into antics myself. As long as the artist puts on a good show, I'm happy with them "loitering" :hilarious: on stage. I guess having video in the background is not enough. I love when artist have video playing in the background especially when it goes along with the song.

[sodascouts]

Well, they really don't just loiter. I think that's unfair. Sure, when they're singing they're stationary, but they're moving around otherwise. They even do the occasional gag, like that time they all jumped together for "Boys of Summer" and on Farewell 1 during "All She Wants to Do Is Dance," Glenn actually gets down! They move around more than my girl Stevie does at a Fleetwood Mac show, that's for sure, lol.

[shunlvswx]

Nah. I was just repeating what the critics say. Even Don repeats what they said in the F1 DVD about the critics say they loitered on stage. I was just adding something to that paragraph when it comes to them not having to swing on a rope or whatever artist do to make their show better.

I agree. They do move around and when they do that they look like they are having fun. I miss Don doing his percussion solo with Scott on Funk 49. I wonder why he stopped that.

Actually that was Dirty Laundry they jumped together.

[Topkat]

Was announced on the radio that Joe & Glenn attended Paul McCartney's birthday dinner with their wives in London!!
They get around!:partytime:

[shunlvswx]

Here's an article about Paul's birthday party and the picture from the other thread is in this article too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2661942/From-rock-royalty-toast-Sir-Paul-72-McCartney-joined-Ringo-Starrs-wife-George-Harrisons-widow-members-The-Eagles-birthday-party-The-Ivy.html

[Topkat]

Very nice article! I'm so happy for Paul. He seems really happy with his new wife, I see everyone mentioned in the photo. Looks like Joe got decked out for the occasion!
I was with Ringo the other night,so Barbara was available to go to the party too....LOL:hilarious:

[Thirsty&Hot]

Here's an article about Paul's birthday party and the picture from the other thread is in this article too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2661942/From-rock-royalty-toast-Sir-Paul-72-McCartney-joined-Ringo-Starrs-wife-George-Harrisons-widow-members-The-Eagles-birthday-party-The-Ivy.html

love the photo! fun to see
though I don't love Joe's blue suit! I like him better in black, but I guess you can't get rid Joe's old style entirely!

also, I think this is a hilarious (and odd) way to end the article! :


A recent documentary about the band shows Mr Frey at a 1980 charity gig threatening to kill the group’s guitarist, Don Felder, on stage and organising a fight for after the show.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

also, I think this is a hilarious (and odd) way to end the article! :

Yes, I kept paging down, thinking there was more below, and I even refreshed the page wondering if it didn't all load correctly!

[MaryCalifornia]

There is so much going on in this article I don't even know where to start...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2665426/Why-dont-rockers-EVER-know-retire-As-OAPs-Macca-Eagles-cashing-JAN-MOIR-says-shes-paying-earth-hear-wrinkly-rock.html

[shunlvswx]

Off topic. Well it was nice to see my other favorite group, The Osmonds in the article too. They are touring for the next month or two in the UK. They are huge in the UK, but the USA wouldn't give them the time of day anymore. I didn't think I would never see my two favorite groups in the same article. LOL

OK. Back to the article. Well. Those "old" artist are still selling out arenas and getting new fans every day especially the younger fans like me. I don't know I would say that about some of these current artist. I wonder would people still buy their albums 30, 40 or 50 years from now.

[sodascouts]

Ugh. I never get why people want to diss something that makes others happy. "Old" rockers are giving their fans a blissful experience and all this person can think about is that they don't look or act like they did 40 years ago. Well, freaking stay home then, and let the rest of us enjoy it.

Also, I can't stand all the inaccuracies and misrepresentations that get repeated so often. Here are two: "[Don Henley] doesn't smile once" and "They never talk to or acknowledge each other on stage, nor do they seem to take pleasure in each other’s musicianship or performance." These statements are patently untrue - people on this board saw quite the opposite at the same show this person attended.

Either the author has no problem exaggerating to make a point, or she didn't really pay that much attention and replaced what actually happened with lazy recycling of preconceived stereotypes.

Oh well. If she can't enjoy the concert because the performers are over a certain age, maybe she should check the birthdates of the band members before she forks over her money. Anybody born before 1990 can be crossed off her list. I'm sure there will be a boy band playing the arena sometime soon, and she can revel amongst the tween girls squeeing over their first crushes, not a wrinkled rocker in sight.

As for me, though, I'll be at the Eagles show.

[MaryCalifornia]

Stupidest "article" ever.

[GlennLover]

Ugh. I never get why people want to diss something that makes others happy. "Old" rockers are giving their fans a blissful experience and all this person can think about is that they don't look or act like they did 40 years ago. Well, freaking stay home then, and let the rest of us enjoy it.

Also, I can't stand all the inaccuracies and misrepresentations that get repeated so often. Here are two: "[Don Henley] doesn't smile once" and "They never talk to or acknowledge each other on stage, nor do they seem to take pleasure in each other’s musicianship or performance." These statements are patently untrue - people on this board saw quite the opposite at the same show this person attended.

Either the author has no problem exaggerating to make a point, or she didn't really pay that much attention and replaced what actually happened with lazy recycling of preconceived stereotypes.

Oh well. If she can't enjoy the concert because the performers are over a certain age, maybe she should check the birthdates of the band members before she forks over her money. Anybody born before 1990 can be crossed off her list. I'm sure there will be a boy band playing the arena sometime soon, and she can revel amongst the tween girls squeeing over their first crushes, not a wrinkled rocker in sight.

As for me, though, I'll be at the Eagles show.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[shunlvswx]

I rather see those "older" artist then today's artists. I don't think I've been to any current artist shows. At least they give you your money's worth.

[ktdids]

Demographically I guess we're not allowed any art or entertainment that isn't the current or hip because we're too senile to recognize anything other than old stuff. Never mind that without some of the old stuff, there wouldn't be any new stuff. Sad to see people really don't get the history and legacy in anything around them.

[zeldabjr]

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion...but how does such a snarky sounding article even get published?...

[MaryCalifornia]

The Daily Mail. Enough said.

[Freypower]

These parts:

My favourite Eagle was always Glenn Frey, the long-haired, moustachioed boulevardier who sang Lyin’ Eyes with a crack in his voice; as if he personally had been wounded by a city girl who found out early how to open doors with just a smile.

And Glenn? The former snake-hipped, loon-pant-wearing heart-throb of the counter culture now looks like a part-time taxi driver.



Has she even followed his career between 1975 & now? And then she has the nerve to refer to him as 'her Glenn'.

I agree with you, Soda, especially about the 'Henley didn't smile once' part. Although I haven't seen them since 2010, I know that isn't true.

However I should point out that the Daily Mail does not have a high reputation. It is full of right wing scaremongering & sensationalism. ETA: Thanks MC! Enough said indeed.

[GlennLover]

These parts:

My favourite Eagle was always Glenn Frey, the long-haired, moustachioed boulevardier who sang Lyin’ Eyes with a crack in his voice; as if he personally had been wounded by a city girl who found out early how to open doors with just a smile.

And Glenn? The former snake-hipped, loon-pant-wearing heart-throb of the counter culture now looks like a part-time taxi driver.



Has she even followed his career between 1975 & now? And then she has the nerve to refer to him as 'her Glenn'.

I agree with you, Soda, especially about the 'Henley didn't smile once' part. Although I haven't seen them since 2010, I know that isn't true.

However I should point out that the Daily Mail does not have a high reputation. It is full of right wing scaremongering & sensationalism. ETA: Thanks MC! Enough said indeed.

The comment about the part-time taxi driver angered me the most! What does a part-time taxi driver look like anyway?

[Zanny Kingston]

ugh- I did not know whether to feel insulted by that story or feel sorry for the author's lack of perspective.

The so called article may have had more validity perhaps, if the Eagles, at their current ages, were trying to act and dress like they did back in the mid seventies- but they are obviously smart enough not to. it reminded me of something Don Henley said in the HOTE doc about their audiences "We look like them, we dress like them" that appears to be a theme for them right through today.

I don't think the author understands a couple of facts that the Eagles and some of these other so called "wrinkled rockers" do understand- - The Eagles themselves are part of the baby boomer generation of the United States, the largest segment of our population, and also the wealthiest segment overall. Its also the first generation to really share their music with their children and grandchildren in a really cool way- as several Borderers go to the Eagles shows with their parents and/or their kids, I also know a friend of mine has taken his twenty something son to a Rolling Stones show.
My Parents would never have gone to a concert with me in the late seventies for example to see the Eagles, even though they were really only about 24 years older than I am. It was a generation gap/cultural thing at the time.

its not fair to say its all about "old people" reliving their youth. Being able to get a chance to see some of these rock legends at this point in my life, at least, is a big deal to me. I couldn't always afford to see a concert
years ago when I was starting out, or it was not as easy to travel to see a band in another city as it is now. I am glad the "wrinkled rockers" are still around, because realistically, who in todays music scene,can fill those shoes for us?

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It was a hideous article written by a woman who is looking to sell a newspaper by attacking and sensationalizing, rather than true journalism. I'm not sure the poorly written piece of garbage is worth the attention we're giving it.

[UndertheWire]

Well she is part of the demography (aged 55), which I'd guessed from her reference to 70s Glenn Frey. However, her job is to write what Daily Mail readers want to read. This time it's making people feel they were right not to pay a lot of money to see the bands of their youth. A few weeks ago, it was berating One Direction for breaking the contract with young fans by being filmed smoking pot and saying things they shouldn't have. So Glenn is bad for no longer being young and wild and 1D are bad for wanting to become young and wild.

I agree with her point about paying large sums of money just to see a dot or watch a screen - I wouldn't pay £400 for that.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I agree UTW. On the other hand she knew the seat location before buying the ticket. She's the one who willingly bought the ticket.

[Brooke]

The Beagles? :nope: :hilarious:

Ridiculous article!

[WalshFan88]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/us-music-eagles-idUKKBN0EY1M120140623


He is working on a country album to come out next year that will focus on the kind of music he listened to on the radio with his father and grandfather when he was a child in rural Texas of the 1940s and '50s.

So now it's next year for Don's new album?! This is becoming quite a joke IMO.......

I put this in Eagles Press because it's mostly an Eagles article.

[shunlvswx]

I knew his album wasn't coming out this year. With the guys adding dates, his album release keeps getting pushed back.

Don has been crying wolf for this album for a while. I just don't say, "yeah right" when I hear when it comes.

Nice article. I really want to see the guys in concert. Its becoming very slim. :-(

[Freypower]

Once again this 'new material puts people to sleep' stuff. The LROOE songs did not put me to sleep & neither did the After Hours songs.

As for Henley's album he told the Australian press it was being released in September. Perhaps it's time he stayed quiet about it. Also, the only new dates added recently are for next February & March & they are in Australasia, not the US.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

This is the second article (the first was from Australia) that said the HOTE tour would wrap up in Australia & NZ. I really hope they just say that because there's nothing else on the schedule.

As for Don's album, I wonder if he meant it wouldn't be released in the UK until next year? All I can say is that if it isn't this year, then the guys have time for more concerts this fall.

Jus' sayin'...

[EaglesKiwi]

I've just posted the same article in Don's new album thread before coming here...

I think it's probably realistic that Don's album release won't be until next year after they've finished up in Aust & NZ. So if that leaves a gap for more US concerts... I'm fairly sure no Borderers will be complaining!

[MaryCalifornia]

I'm not sure this is the right thread for this, not sure where it goes, but it is an ad from the Forum touting their new seats, and the photo is from an Eagles show and there's a quote from Glenn. Really cool photo.

http://www.fabulousforum.com/content/dam/forum/about/PremiumSenateSeats.pdf

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Pretty cool. Of course, no pricing listed. I can't even imagine how much that would cost!

[Brooke]

Looks to me like lower bowl tickets just got more expensive and won't be offered in regular sales. Sorry to be a downer, but it is what it is! Hope other venues don't do this too! :worried:

[sodascouts]

It will if they sell, I imagine. I remember Dolan and Azoff talking about doing this kind of thing a while back when they were forming their partnership with regard to the ownership of Madison Square Garden and the LA Forum.

[GlennLover]

I'm bringing this forward from November, 2013. It's post 1546 in this thread.
I know Glenn and Cindy were married in August, 1990. I've seen a wedding announcement that was posted in the Aspen paper shortly after their marriage. I can't remember the exact date, but I think it was around August 20th or 21st. If they married on Saturday before the announcement, that would mean the date was 8/17/90. However, the announcement did not give the date so this may not be correct.

I am posting it because I came upon this information giving a June 30, 1990 wedding date for G Lewis Frey & Cynthia F Millican in Pitkin County, Colorado. (Aspen is in Pitkin county). http://www.peoplefinders.com/marriage-records/cynthia+millican. I don't know how accurate this site is, after all, it does say G Lewis, not Glenn Lewis. It's highly unlikely that there would be two other people with the same names married in Pitkin county in 1990, but the date could he incorrect.

[sodascouts]

That's a lot earlier than I thought, but I never did have a date nailed down, just that August news item. Maybe they were just slow to report it.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

HOTE brings in $145 million and 1.1 million fans...so far.

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/touring/6141117/the-eagles-history-tour-brings-in-145-million-plays-to-11-million



The Eagles are one of the elite touring bands of all time, having grossed $702,110,908 and moved 7,720,760 tickets to 484 shows reported to Billboard Boxscore since the band re-united for the 1994 Hell Freezes Over tour. “The worldwide strength of the Eagles live business is unparalleled,” Azoff tells Billboard. “It just grows and grows.”


Why is it unparalleled? The songs and still-perfect delivery of them!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Awesome!


"These are the best Eagles shows I have ever seen,” says Azoff, who has managed the band for some 40 years. “I love this show. No one should miss it. I also admire them for keeping the ticket prices affordable, and foregoing stadium and outdoor dates for the best possible environment for their fans to experience this amazing show."

Totally agree with Irving on the first half of this quote. However, not too sure about the affordable ticket prices part. :grin: I guess 'affordable' is all in the eye of the beholder. But, one thing for sure, it seems that the demand is still there and as long as they are selling millions of tickets, I guess we can assume they are still affordable to the general public.

[MaryCalifornia]

HOTE brings in $145 million and 1.1 million fans...so far.



That gross number sounds low. That would mean that the AVERAGE ticket is $130, and this wouldn't even include any merchandise sales...But, I don't know why he'd lower the #, maybe they're embarrassed to provide the REAL #s!! I think Borderers have spent more than $145M this year! :hilarious:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I think I've mentioned before, their cheaper tickets, aka 'nosebleeds' are cheaper than other major acts touring. At least, they were last summer when I did the compare. I thought the number low as well, but that's probably what they made as a live act? For their purposes, merchandise might go under 'promotion', same as concessions, and while owned by the band, perhaps a different entity when calculating revenue? I don't know, of course, just throwing out possibilities.

[Brooke]

HOTE brings in $145 million and 1.1 million fans...so far.

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/touring/6141117/the-eagles-history-tour-brings-in-145-million-plays-to-11-million



Why is it unparalleled? The songs and still-perfect delivery of them!

Yup! :nod:

[shunlvswx]

I still wonder why the media is surprise they can still bring in the people and one of the hottest tours at this moment even surplussing some of today's artist. Heck sometimes the guys are still surprise people are still come. They are not has been and they never were IMO. Yes they left for 14 years, but when they picked up where they stop at, it just got bigger and bigger instead of smaller.

The Eagles are great band. People want to see them. I really hope I get to see one of their shows especially HOTE, but its coming very slim since I don't see them coming back to the south anytime soon.:worried:

[UndertheWire]

"Mentions in the Press" is a bit of an understatement for this. It's a short interview with Irving Azoff and there are a couple of significant comments.

This isn't so surprising:

To me, this show they put together--from their performance to the production--is the most satisfying of all Eagles shows. People had better see it quickly because the three hour and fifteen minute set is coming to an end. I'm not saying they're coming to an end, but this version of their live performance is. This show was written to go around once, not twice. That's how it'll be.

But this is a shocker:


MR: Over the years, people have loved hearing new material from the Eagles. Do they do that still? Do they still get together and write?
IA: No, mostly because I told them don't bother, because there's no appreciation for it anymore. Neil Diamond once said to me that he puts four new songs all together in the set because he knows they're going to get up and go to the bathroom when he plays new songs. I've actually discouraged them from doing anything new because there's such a lack of respect these days for icons of our business doing any new material. Their audience wants to hear the body of work that they live with at home, not new material.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ragogna/from-eagles-to-jersey-boy_b_5553742.html

[thelastresort]

Not the press per se, but from a newspaper column written by British actor and all-round nice guy John Challis:

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/news-opinion/john-challis-driven-dream-road-7346413


The final question was ‘What road trip do you dream about?’

Not hard to answer as me and the wife talk about it all the time.

We want to drive across America in a red Mustang convertible with the hood down, playing Beach Boys and The Eagles and Chuck Berry, taking in Route 66 all the way from Chicago to LA.

He's also previously mentioned a love for the Eagles here:

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/317979/My-six-best-albums-John-Challis


EAGLES: HOTEL CALIFORNIA

(Warner)

I was always a big fan but on this record the fantastic guitarist Joe Walsh beefed them up a bit from their original sound. There are great guitar breaks and I love the existentialist lyrics of Hotel California, a favourite track.

Having worked in California I saw where they were coming from.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

To me, this show they put together--from their performance to the production--is the most satisfying of all Eagles shows. People had better see it quickly because the three hour and fifteen minute set is coming to an end. I'm not saying they're coming to an end, but this version of their live performance is. This show was written to go around once, not twice. That's how it'll be.


This is what I figured was coming and soon, and why I just bought a ticket to the Omaha show. Trying to get in as many of these as I can. It's a shame they missed the entire Commonwealth of Virginia and the state of Maryland.

As for the bit about new music, it's a shame Irv feels that way. I'm not sure it's a disrespect so much as people being clueless. A lot of Classic Rock stations do not play new music and the stations that do play new music aren't fit to listen to. So, a lot of people out there just don't even know an artist they like has new music available. If they utilized social media more I think they'd find more interest.

[UndertheWire]

This is from a 2007 interview with photogrpaher Tom Wright:


You introduced Townshend and Joe Walsh to one another. What was it like to watch the two of them jam, in private?
The first time was in a Holiday Inn room in Detroit. They were both playing acoustics. It started out really slow and mellow, with none of that typical thing people might expect, where each guy is trying to outgun the other. It was more like, “Who’s the more humble? Who’s the more low-key and understated?” But then it just took off, like the fog lifting to reveal something else. It’s like going over to Picasso’s house to watch him and Monet paint at the same time. Which guy do you look at? Who do you concentrate on? It doesn’t get any better than that.

On a good night, who was the best live band you ever saw?
They sort of fall into their own categories. Vibe-wise, a great Faces show was totally different from a great Who show. A great Who show was scary. The music was explosive, and when it finished, you felt glad you had survived. When you walked away from a great Rod Stewart and Faces show, you felt like you had been locked in a pub with a hundred people who had just had the time of their life. You walked out smiling. With the Eagles, particularly in recent years, you walk out feeling like you’ve seen Pavarotti. The perfection level is beyond measure.http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/photographer-tom-wright-remembers-0712-2012.aspx
(the book is really good)

BTW, if anyone is in Austin, Texas and can make an excuse for some research, Tom Wright has an archive of his photographs there. Here's the catalogue (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/00033/cah-00033.html).

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Awww, those quotes are so great!! In a guitar duel, I'm sure I'd be watching Joe, in spite of the fact that I've seen him play countless times. His playing is more than how it sounds, it's watching him get into it. It's like he is the guitar.

As for the second quote, yes, our guys do it up great each and every time.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Thinking about this for a while, my favorite part of those quotes is "particularly in recent years". What an accomplishment! To be so great and then be even better. If he's seen the HOTE shows, I bet he's definitely feeling the same way.

[GlennLover]

Have you noticed that people in the music business, including musicians, are on the most part, very complimentary, even in awe, of the Eagles while the so called critics who review their shows tend to pan them? :enraged:

[UndertheWire]

I believe Tom Wright prefers the rougher, more energetic sound of groups like The Who and The James Gang but he still has a lot of respect for the Eagles.

I've been listening to a bootleg of the "Wrong NIght" concert and I'm stunned at how near perfect it is despite all the drama that was going on back- and on-stage. You really wouldn't know it was a band breaking up.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for those posts, tlr and UTW. Always fun to read those kind of comments.

And thanks for finding that interview with Irving too, UTW, although it wasn't particularly fun to read his comments, I must say. I agree with others though that I won't be hugely surprised if they wind up the HOTE tour after Australia. However, they haven't been to nearly the number of cities on this tour as they have traditionally done in the past. The band always say they plan things a year at a time, so I'm gonna :pray: :pray: and :pray: some more that they'll want to schedule more live dates later next year.

[Freypower]

Those comments by Irving about telling them not to write new music beggar belief. I would have thought it wasn't really up to him to dictate their creative direction. He seems to have completely forgotten what a huge success LROOE was. To make this assumption that fans don't want to hear anything new at all is an insult to the intelligence to those of us who wallowed in all the After Hours songs & I would happily do it again for the Eagles. I have never gone to the Eagles to see a nostalgia act. The best shows I saw were the LROOE shows, but apparently this is a minority opinion. I am not going to see them in March to see a nostalgia act either, but if that is what they have become, I suppose I should be glad the manager has finally admitted it outright.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Yes, I was a bit upset at Irving's remark myself. Pink Floyd just let it slip they are releasing new material. I wonder if they know their fans don't want it? :-x In all seriousness, I did wonder if maybe Irving has just lost his touch, and perhaps it's time for him to retire. That won't happen, so we'll see how this plays out.

[Victim of Love]

FP, I wholeheartedly agree that IA has absolutely no business telling the guys not to write more music. It comes across like he thinks he owns them - and we all know they are their own persons! I also find it a bit contradictory to what Joe said recently. It's extremely brazen and arrogant of Irving to imply that he has all creative control over the guys... AS IF!

[UndertheWire]

Maybe he's just telling them what they want to hear.

[Elizasong]

Regardless of what Irving says they are all adults and can make their own decisions if they disagree with him.

[Victim of Love]

MR: Over the years, people have loved hearing new material from the Eagles. Do they do that still? Do they still get together and write?
IA: No, mostly because I told them don't bother, because there's no appreciation for it anymore. Neil Diamond once said to me that he puts four new songs all together in the set because he knows they're going to get up and go to the bathroom when he plays new songs. I've actually discouraged them from doing anything new because there's such a lack of respect these days for icons of our business doing any new material. Their audience wants to hear the body of work that they live with at home, not new material.

I guess in fairness to Irving we need to consider that he may actually have meant that he's advised them against performing new/newer songs (i.e. material from LROOE in particular). When you read his response in its entirety and break down the context I suppose it's possible.

As for those of us who are true diehard fans, they could sing the phone book and we'd remained glued to our seats!

And I agree that they are adults who make their own choices - and if they choose to write new material that is exactly what they'll do. Timothy has said that he is constantly working on new stuff and Joe made a comment that gives hope that they COULD return to the studio. Whether they write together or individually, the fact remains that it's in their blood and nobody, not even Irving, can say or do anything to change that. Once a songwriter, always a songwriter!

[bluefeather]

I agree, well said VOL

[Freypower]

I guess in fairness to Irving we need to consider that he may actually have meant that he's advised them against performing new/newer songs (i.e. material from LROOE in particular). When you read his response in its entirety and break down the context I suppose it's possible.

As for those of us who are true diehard fans, they could sing the phone book and we'd remained glued to our seats!

And I agree that they are adults who make their own choices - and if they choose to write new material that is exactly what they'll do. Timothy has said that he is constantly working on new stuff and Joe made a comment that gives hope that they COULD return to the studio. Whether they write together or individually, the fact remains that it's in their blood and nobody, not even Irving, can say or do anything to change that. Once a songwriter, always a songwriter!

Even if he did mean performing new material I disagree with him. He's saying that he didn't think the LROOE songs were well received so they were right to ditch it. It's now like it was never made.

[Victim of Love]

Point taken, FP...and well-made. Even during the LROOE tour I felt too much of the material was passed over in favor of older stuff. That's not to say that I don't adore the older stuff but there is so much greatness to LROOE and it didn't get a fair shake. Like everyone else, I am totally mystified by the absence of acknowledgement it's getting this go-round.

[DJ]

I can see where Irving is coming from, but fans would love to hear new music in my opinion. On the other side though, I went to a Marshall Tucker concert ions ago and they played new music and everyone in the audience was ticked off. So I guess it goes both ways.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

The thing with our guys is that more than a lot of other bands, people want to sing along. If they don't know the songs, then it loses something. It amazes me how many people go to a concert and don't even know the band has a new album out, let alone the words to it. It's not like the good old days when it was played on the radio 40 million times before you went, so you knew it already. The state of the music industry today is depressing and I'm so incredibly lucky to have grown up when I did.

After having said all that, I disagree with Irving. Of course, he's sitting in puddles of money as a result of knowing what he's doing and I've got drops of money. I still disagree with him.

[sad-cafe]

I have a CD stuck in my Jeep. Hubby says we have to take the stereo out to get it unstuck. It is disc one of LOOE. Could be worse :nahnah:

[sodascouts]

Oh my freaking gosh, I am SO PISSED OFF at Irving Azoff telling the guys not to write or perform new material.

Yeah, they can make their own decisions, but he should be encouraging them, not telling them to "not bother." He should be giving them reasons TO write, not giving them reasons to bow out.

I didn't exactly see swaths of empty seats during the LROOE tour. Did I imagine the fact that the album was #1 on the charts as well? So much for there being no demand.

Oh, sure, LROOE didn't sell as much as their old albums, but that's the way it is in today's climate. Just because you can't match the Hotel California numbers that were reached FOUR DECADES ago doesn't mean you should just give up your art.

I've heard Stevie Nicks say the same thing about nobody wanting to hear her new material, so she doesn't perform more than a couple new songs per tour. At least she has two up on the Eagles there, who currently perform a big fat ZERO songs from their latest album. I love the guys so much, but that is just WRONG. The "History of the Eagles" did not end 20 years ago in 1994.

And before anyone says "Well, their shows sell out so they must be right not to play new songs" remember that they sold out shows for their prior tours where they DID play new songs. They sell great regardless, because they're the EAGLES and people love them.

While I hope Irving Azoff was just talking about telling them to "not bother" to perform new songs (although that's bad enough), what really horrifies me is the notion that he is discouraging them from WRITING new songs. God forbid an artist stops songwriting for purely commercial reasons. If you have the kind of gift these guys have, to throw it away because it will only sell a few million (GASP HORROR) is downright CRIMINAL.

Not to be vulgar, but I hope these guys still have the balls to go forward with new music regardless of what anyone else, including Irving Azoff, may say.

I haven't written a fan letter in years, but I might do so to tell these guys that there are people out there who want new material.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Not to be vulgar, but I hope these guys still have the balls to go forward with new music regardless of what anyone else, including Irving Azoff, may say.

I haven't written a fan letter in years, but I might do so to tell these guys that there are people out there who want new material.

You go, sista!

Given how long it took the guys to get motivated and get LROOE out (and consider the state of Don's new album), I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Irving is using reverse psychology. It often works on men, and perhaps Irving has figured that out? Probably the hard way?

[DJ]

You go, sista!

Given how long it took the guys to get motivated and get LROOE out (and consider the state of Don's new album), I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Irving is using reverse psychology. It often works on men, and perhaps Irving has figured that out? Probably the hard way?


Totally agree with you VA, reverse psychology. I hope that's what he is doing.

[Freypower]

I saw them lose confidence in LROOE songs in 2010. I saw them play BBF & GOTC on the first night in Sydney. Both songs were then dropped. I saw Somebody on three nights & then it was dropped.

None of this happened, it should be remembered, on Glenn's After Hours tour, where he performed NINE songs from the album every night. The only new song which wasn't played at each show was Here's To Life (and on the American leg that wasn't introduced until the LA show I attended) but he then did it at each Australasian show.

It seems to me that we are being slowly prepared for the breakup.

[UndertheWire]

It seems to me that we are being slowly prepared for the breakup.
Hmmm. Maybe, except they won't tell us they've broken up. Before the HotE tour the message was that it was their last big tour although they'd probably still play together afterwards from time to time.

If they get on with their own projects, maybe it's not such a bad idea.

I wouldn't be adverse to a new album with three or four solo songs from each with no attempt to present it as a group offering.

[Freypower]

Hmmm. Maybe, except they won't tell us they've broken up. Before the HotE tour the message was that it was their last big tour although they'd probably still play together afterwards from time to time.

If they get on with their own projects, maybe it's not such a bad idea.

I wouldn't be adverse to a new album with three or four solo songs from each with no attempt to present it as a group offering.

Well, I would. It would be beyond awkward. How would it be billed? You couldn't call it 'Eagles' if it isn't.

[sodascouts]

Yes, if it's an Eagles album, I want all the Eagles involved in every song - even if it's just adding backing vocals or instrumentation to a track that's essentially complete. That's what they did for several LROOE songs.

The good news is that from what they've said, it sounds like they're never going to OFFICIALLY call it quits until someone becomes physically incapable of performing. The problem is that if the occasional post-HOTE shows are going to be 16 or 17 songs from here on out... well... let's just say that "epic" would no longer be an adjective I'd use after seeing a show.

That being said, what's most important to me is the music they RELEASE. That will be around long after the Eagles stop touring. That's why I desperately hope that they still produce work even now, be it as the Eagles or solo.

[UndertheWire]

"Separate Threads: Eagles Flying Solo"? Think of it as an extension to the brand.

Of course, it would be better if they could come together and write and record new material in a timely fashion, but if that's too difficult, I'd rather they recorded new music as solo artists.

[shunlvswx]

I can understand where Irving and even the guys is going with this. I'm going to give you an example. A favorite group of mines, The Osmonds had that same problem. We beg the guys to put out a new studio for many many many years. They kept saying nobody wanted to hear new songs, but we wanted new songs.

They finally put out a new studio album(they are also known to do cover songs. So it was cool to hear actually new songs) 2 years ago. We loved the album and to tell the truth. A lot of fans rather hear those songs than some of the songs they play in their set. Heartache Tonight is one of them. They've been singing that song since the 80s. They catered mostly to the age group from the 60s when they were the Andy Williams show. They always forget about the fans who are their ages.

They have about 4 of the new songs in their setlist now and it took the place of songs some of us were tired of hearing.

I guess it depends. In my case we rather have new songs in the set. I really they barely did any songs from LROOE in the USA other than that one time at the forum.

[UndertheWire]

Last year, there was a story with a headline about "No Christmas cards" but only a summary of the feature was available to non-subscribers at that time. The full piece is now online and it's pretty good, with comments from Bernie Leadon, Glyn Johns, Ron Stone and Jackson Browne.

http://www.uncut.co.uk/eagles/eagles-on-desperado-we-were-quite-taken-with-the-idea-of-being-outlaws-feature



Nevertheless, changes were taking place in the band dynamic. Having worked with them mere months before on their debut, and as a producer who was firmly committed to the Eagles being an equilibrium where “no-one feels left out and is fairly represented”, Johns noticed a clear shift in the power base. “Henley and Frey assumed control during Desperado, is the best way of putting it,” he says. “That feeling was always there, but stronger on the second LP.”
On Desperado, the pair had a hand in writing eight of the 10 originals, and shared writing credits on the two most high- profile tracks – “Tequila Sunrise” and “Desperado”. It was the start of the Eagles’ musical output beginning to reflect both the band hierarchy and also the manner in which it had been formed in the first place. “There was a degree of prefabrication to the Eagles,” says Stone. “We put them all together, with Glenn and Don as the centrepieces, but they wanted it to be a real, organic band. That’s the emotional component of the first two records: to be a proper band, almost playing at being a democracy. What they realised as time went on is that rock’n’roll is a benevolent dictatorship.”
Leadon, perhaps surprisingly, agrees: “They were more suited to lead. It was actually Glyn’s idea to make it more of a four-way thing. The natural dynamic was more like a Beatles vibe, with two main guys, but Glyn pushed hard to make sure Randy and I had two songs each on Desperado, and it worked out OK.” While both Leadon and Stone believe the friction and creative tension was a positive force initially, it quickly became a problem. Shortly into the recording of their third record, On The Border, they sacked Johns. “We fell out, really,” he says. “Henley and Frey treated the others like inferior beings – particularly Frey. I didn’t like what I was seeing at all and I made that fairly obvious.” Don Felder came in on extra guitar and the sound toughened. Not much later Leadon left, then Meisner. “Democracy does not serve the creative impulse well,” shrugs Browne. “In the end, Don and Glenn just took over the band.”

[UndertheWire]

Bill Symzyck on recording Hotel California (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/classic-tracks-0910.htm). It's a bit technical for me this evening.

[UndertheWire]

Here's a fuller version of how Glyn Johns came to produce the Eagles. The song that won him over was "Take the Devil"! Not quite what I was expecting.


EAGLES
Eagles (Geffen, 1972)
The original Eagles lineup decamped to London to record their debut, and shortly thereafter became a money-spinning country-rock behemoth…
I was approached by David Geffen and went to see the band in a little club in the middle of nowhere. Frankly, I wasn’t impressed. They were trying to be a rock’n’roll band but they couldn’t play it to save their lives. I didn’t get it, but Geffen kept going on and on so eventually I agreed to see them rehearse. Their set was OK, but as we were about to take a break somebody said, “Hold on, why don’t we play that ballad Randy [Meisner] has written?” They picked up acoustic guitars, stood around the piano and played “Take The Devil”, with the four of them singing. And that was it. Astonishing. So I tried to introduce more of that acoustic sound and concentrate on vocal blend and arrangements. On “Take It Easy”, I got Bernie [Leadon] to play double-time banjo; they all thought it was a bonkers idea but it worked. It was already a great song, but that one little thing made it different. Some of them weren’t over enamoured with that first record, but that wasn’t apparent when we were making it. Once they had a couple of hits off it that was all OK, apparently!Read more at http://www.uncut.co.uk/node/19764#xGEmF1WYmqHG6epw.99

[shunlvswx]

Oh. Is that the name of that song they sing in the HOTE documentary that won Glyn over? I had always wonder what was the name of that song.

[UndertheWire]

As far as I can tell, "Take the Devil" doesn't have four-part harmonies and doesn't seem to lend itself to that approach. I wonder if it could have been "Most of Us Are Sad" which has a lot of harmonies and has Randy singing lead.

[ktdids]

Bill Symzyck on recording Hotel California (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/classic-tracks-0910.htm). It's a bit technical for me this evening.

Funny how he mentions Fleetwood Mac and the rivalry between them, and says they were "dating each other".
Sounds like Bill would've been cool to work with.

[sodascouts]

As far as I can tell, "Take the Devil" doesn't have four-part harmonies and doesn't seem to lend itself to that approach. I wonder if it could have been "Most of Us Are Sad" which has a lot of harmonies and has Randy singing lead.

I bet it was "Most of Us Are Sad." I've always wondered what the song was, too. Very cool! Interesting reads.

[Thirsty&Hot]

I found these articles because I was doing some research on Hotel California in Baja, Mexico after Soda posted about a Hotel California tequila she and HB found and enjoyed (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=283162&postcount=2761)

so I went on to post about how cool the websites looked for the tequila and the hotel (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=283220&postcount=2764)

turns out maybe we shouldn't want to stay there for Eagles' reasons.
otherwise it looks like a very nice place.


or maybe not...

Tourists Continue to be Duped by Baja's Hotel California (http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2012/10/8/131614/744/hotels/Tourists_Continue_to_be_Duped_by_Baja's_Hotel_Cali fornia_)

Is HOTEL CALIFORNIA of Eagles fame in Baja, Mexico? (http://www.interpacyachtcharters.com/blog/is-hotel-california-of-eagles-fame-in-baja-mexico)

[Ive always been a dreamer]

That account from Glyn Johns that UTW posted varies a bit from other accounts he has given, including his interview in the HOTE doc, where he says the song that grabbed his attention was Silver Dagger. In the early days, the guys used to sing one of it's verses as a lead in to Take It Easy. The lyrics are:

My daddy is a handsome devil
He's got a chain five miles long
And on every link a heart does dangle
Of another maid he's loved and wronged.

[thelastresort]

*Puts on pedantic hat* They actually sang it in the past tense *Removes hat*

I too had always believed it was Silver Dagger that drew him in - it would certainly have shown off their skill in a much shorter time and better way than MOUAS.

Edit - for those who don't know, this is Silver Dagger. Don also joined in from behind the drums and literally as they pulled away at the end Glenn would play the first chord to Take It Easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZco-St61c

[shunlvswx]

I just found out about Silver Dagger until last week when I asked a question on another board I'm on. I always had wonder what was the name of that song they were singing. The funny thing is its in the closing credits and I just didn't notice it.

I've never heard of that song until HOTE.

And when you think of it. Later down the road, 7BR took the place of this song to feature their tight harmonies. 7BR would lead into HL.

[Thirsty&Hot]

ah I made a Silver Dagger post back in January after hearing Joan Baez's version


I was watching Dogfight (1991 movie starring River Phoenix and Lili Taylor) and there's a scene where she's listening to a Joan Baez record. Silver Dagger is playing, and all of a sudden I was like Whoa..wait a minute...that was a verse from Come All Ye Fair and Tender Ladies!

I did some research...I was unaware of the history of that song..and all of these little connections...love it!

They even mention the Eagles singing it before Take It Easy on the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Dagger_(song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDuvjqO5WI4

I love Joan Baez...so beautiful

[thelastresort]

Sorry if I'm misreading you T&H, but aren't Silver Dagger and CAYFATL two separate things altogether?

[Thirsty&Hot]

no you're right...I was mistaken at the time because Silver Dagger was mislabeled as CAYFTL on the Earlybirds bootleg.

though oddly enough CAYFTL is actually noted on the bottom of the Silver Dagger wiki page (linked in my previous post) as "another ballad with similar content"

[Thirsty&Hot]

so...did Eagles ever actually sing CAYFTL?

[thelastresort]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. As I said on the Earlybirds thread, the labelling is wrong and all the songs it refers to are indeed the Silver Dagger verse.

[sodascouts]

so...did Eagles ever actually sing CAYFTL?

Not that I know of.

[sodascouts]

*Puts on pedantic hat* They actually sang it in the past tense *Removes hat*

I too had always believed it was Silver Dagger that drew him in - it would certainly have shown off their skill in a much shorter time and better way than MOUAS.

Edit - for those who don't know, this is Silver Dagger. Don also joined in from behind the drums and literally as they pulled away at the end Glenn would play the first chord to Take It Easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZco-St61c

They changed a couple others words, too, besides the tense. The way they do it:

"My daddy was a handsome devil
He had a chain five miles long
From every link, a heart did dangle
For every lady he'd loved and wronged"

At least, that's what I hear. Of course, the lyrics of folk songs often vary a bit from place to place.

I always thought it was "Silver Dagger" Johns had heard, too, until this article. It would make more sense, and it would also explain why they did it in concert when it doesn't seem to lead thematically into "Take It Easy" in any way. Indeed, all it really does is display their harmonies.

[GlennLover]

They changed a couple others words, too, besides the tense. The way they do it:

"My daddy was a handsome devil
He had a chain five miles long
From every link, a heart did dangle
For every lady he'd loved and wronged"

At least, that's what I hear. Of course, the lyrics of folk songs often vary a bit from place to place.

I always thought it was "Silver Dagger" Johns had heard, too, until this article. It would make more sense, and it would also explain why they did it in concert when it doesn't seem to lead thematically into "Take It Easy" in any way. Indeed, all it really does is display their harmonies.

Instead of "lady" I hear "maid", but my hearing isn't very good.

[Freypower]

Instead of "lady" I hear "maid", but my hearing isn't very good.

I hear 'maid' too because it's only one syllable.

[sodascouts]

It's weird, because I heard the "m" sound, but I went with "lady" because I thought I heard an extra syllable before "he'd."

[Thirsty&Hot]

hmm definitely sounds like he's singing a drawn out "maid" ..which could be mistaken for a second syllable

[sodascouts]

I see what you're saying. Learn something new every day!

[shunlvswx]

I'm watching HOTE right now on Showtime and I just finished watching that clip. My closed caption said maid. It does sound like they are saying maid.

[UndertheWire]

That account from Glyn Johns that UTW posted varies a bit from other accounts he has given, including his interview in the HOTE doc, where he says the song that grabbed his attention was Silver Dagger. In the early days, the guys used to sing one of it's verses as a lead in to Take It Easy. The lyrics are:

My daddy is a handsome devil
He's got a chain five miles long
And on every link a heart does dangle
Of another maid he's loved and wronged.
I've just watched that part of the doc and Glyn Johns doesn't say which song, just that someone said "Let's play Glyn that ballad." Then it cuts to "Silver Dagger" from the BBC concert and after another few sentences from Glyn, it's onto "Seven Bridges Road". It could just be the director choosing the best songs to illustrate the point.

[shunlvswx]

As I was listening to the radio this afternoon heading home, the DJ was talking about the Eagles could do more tour dates. So she was quoting Joe. I'm paraphrasing. So I'm trying to remember what was said. Joe said something like we have a few more years in us. If there's still the demand for them, the people are still coming or their voices are holding and can physically still do it, why stop.

Then the interviewer asked if there will be another Eagles album? Joe said he would like to do another one, but it was up to Glenn and Don.

Sorry I don't have a link to this since I heard it on the radio. I don't know where she got the quotes from Joe, but it was cool to have the DJ talking about the Eagles on my local radio station. The last time they talked about the Eagles was when Don was responding to what Robert Plant said about the Eagles are bored and that's why they are touring or something like that.

[sodascouts]

I like those answers!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I've just watched that part of the doc and Glyn Johns doesn't say which song, just that someone said "Let's play Glyn that ballad." Then it cuts to "Silver Dagger" from the BBC concert and after another few sentences from Glyn, it's onto "Seven Bridges Road". It could just be the director choosing the best songs to illustrate the point.

UTW - It's true that in the HOTE doc, Glyn Johns didn't specifically mention Silver Dagger. However, I have seen/read a few other interviews where he and/or the band members specifically describe the song as the one that they sang for him that caught his attention. I can't remember right now which interviews they are because there are so many, but maybe I'll have have time to look for it later. It probably been discussed here on the board before so I'll see if I can find anything in a search.

[Thirsty&Hot]

As I was listening to the radio this afternoon heading home, the DJ was talking about the Eagles could do more tour dates. So she was quoting Joe. I'm paraphrasing. So I'm trying to remember what was said. Joe said something like we have a few more years in us. If there's still the demand for them, the people are still coming or their voices are holding and can physically still do it, why stop.

Then the interviewer asked if there will be another Eagles album? Joe said he would like to do another one, but it was up to Glenn and Don.

Sorry I don't have a link to this since I heard it on the radio. I don't know where she got the quotes from Joe, but it was cool to have the DJ talking about the Eagles on my local radio station. The last time they talked about the Eagles was when Don was responding to what Robert Plant said about the Eagles are bored and that's why they are touring or something like that.

nice!!:thumbsup:

[Thirsty&Hot]

I wanna post something here, but I noticed we are on page 200...is this thread closing?

[Thirsty&Hot]

Well, I'll post it anyway!
Please move it to the new thread if this one is closing.

Eagles mentioned as one of Lana Del Rey's influences (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/shades-of-cool-12-of-lana-del-reys-biggest-influences-20140716/the-eagles-0048359)


Squint your ears a little while listening to the morose "Pretty When You Cry," and before you know it, you'll be on a dark desert highway with cool wind in your hair. Lana Del Rey has said she listens to the Eagles' "Hotel California" while getting ready for photo shoots.


I definitely hear the Hotel California in Pretty When You Cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrjlupvNZ8

Lana's new album is beautifully moody. Her other influences are interesting to read about (and listen to) too. She had just landed in NY on her way to work with Lou Reed on the morning he died.