Don in the Press/Blogs/etc.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

How about another Awwww! That is just sweet. It is amazing how something that took so little effort on Don's part can turn someone into a lifelong fan.

[Prettymaid]

I can't believe they misplaced that letter!

[sodascouts]

I know! I mean, seriously, you have a treasure like that and you're so careless with it that you wind up losing it?? Unbelievable! But it's a sweet story nonetheless.

[EagleLady]

Maybe it's not that they are careless but they just misplace it.

[Britt]

awww, how nice is that of Don! I would have framed that letter. But that's just me.

[TimothyBFan]

Maybe it's not that they are careless but they just misplace it.

Which would be careless!!! :brickwall:

Another awwww from me also! That was a great read!!

[Brooke]

Wow! I cannot imagine misplacing that letter either! It would be framed and hanging on a wall at my house!

[Wendy]

Long time lurker - first time poster.

So I did a little research and found out her name is "Brittany Olson". She is (get this) Eva Longoria's best friend. Or at least she was the Maid of Honor at Eva's wedding.

Here's a link to a thread: http://x17online.com/celebrities/eva_longoria/one_down_one_more_to_go.php

If you do a "Find on this page" with your Internet Explorer the words "Brittany Olson" it comes up on the thread.

It's from an Anonymous poster... but says she is the illegitimate daughter of Don. An Eagles Fan posts that Don only has 3 kids. The Anonymous poster writes back saying that his other 3 kids just found out this past year about their big sis.

And then later the Anonymous poster says that Don is a "pompous @#% when you know him personally" and she can't divulge any more personal info. Hrmpf.

I don't know if any of this is true... but it's interesting.

Then if you google "Brittany Olson" and Eva Longoria, there's a whole bunch of links saying that she was the Maid of Honor. No photos that I can find as of yet.

Did Don ever date "Carla Olson" He did some vocals and engineered her 1984 album "Midnight Mission".

Ahhhh the plot thickens! :partytime:

Love this message board,
Maid
She was raised by her mom, Pam and Mark Olson, mostly in Texas.

[tbs fanatic]

LOL - Had to laugh at the '..pompous @%..' bit. It's not much of a stretch to imagine Don coming across like that. :woah: did I just say that? <runs and hides>.

[Nobody'sBeach]

Now, you know, "Anonymous poster" will not put anything out there that has not been thouroughy researched and completely accurate...

Just face the facts, people!

[Britt]

See attached article where Don mentions he has four kids.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2007-02-10-henley-musicares_x.htm

[DonFan]

Wow! I cannot imagine misplacing that letter either! It would be framed and hanging on a wall at my house!
I'm a little late with this comment, but I just read the blog and was touched that Don wrote the letter and so quickly, too. And I would have definitely framed the letter, immediately!

[ticky]

Irving just twittered this... interesting reading from "COPYRIGHTS & CAMPAIGNS
BEN SHEFFNER'S NOTES ON COPYRIGHT, FIRST AMENDMENT, MEDIA, AND ENTERTAINMENT LAW, AND POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS"

"Henley, DeVore settle lawsuit; Henley rails against remixes and mash-ups, YouTube, 'dark side' of Internet; songs are not 'toys or playthings' "
(http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/2010/08/henley-devore-settle-lawsuit-henley.html)

[Troubadour]

Thanks for that, Rhonda. It's funny - there are two 'anonymous' comments at the bottom of the article, with utterly polarized opinions, and yet I can see both sides. There's the 'Henley should stop whining and get over it' camp and the 'it's his right to defend his property' one. I suppose us 'everyday people' will always look at rock stars and think "Oh, you have loads of money - lighten up!" but of course, they had to work hard to get where they are. His songs are his property, and it's a matter of what's right and wrong legally, and according to Don, morally. Even though reading his comments about this doesn't leave me beaming, I completely respect his right to defend what's his.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well put, Troub. I agree - the copyright issues are complicated matters, that's for sure. There are so many grey areas that it makes it extremely difficult to know exactly where to draw the line sometimes.

[sodascouts]

I am disappointed that Henley lumps all unofficial YouTube music videos into one big affront to humanity, but I'm not surprised.

Songs are not "playthings" and "toys"... I don't even know what to say to that. Perhaps Henley doesn't mean it to come out the way it sounded - as if a song were nothing more than a piece of property that generates revenue.

Yes, musicians need to put food on the table... but I think it is very telling that almost all struggling musicians welcome YouTube fanvids and the free exposure it gives them.... Exposure that gets them revenue in the long run. Not only do they understand it, they want it. Maybe they know a bit more about what puts food on the table than Henley does at this point - Henley's pantry has been well-stocked for almost four decades.

Henley has been so successful for so long I think he's forgotten that not everyone has an established fanbase; some people still have to get their name "out there" and with the demise of radio and the old-school record companies, the internet is the key. Some struggling musicians have made their careers by singing unauthorized covers on YouTube, the most famous of which is Justin Bieber - but even if you don't care for Bieber, there are other artists who have been helped as well.

One should note that the official videos sticking to the "formula" almost never go viral. It's the fanvids that are going outside the box and they are being rewarded for it by the public who eat these fanvids up. (They eat up the good ones at least - the bad ones go by the wayside, which is as it should be). If these videos have nothing to offer, why are they so popular?

Did people rush to send each other links to Chris Brown's video for "Forever" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMKX22BHeE)? No. Why should they? It's the same as 1000 other videos like it.... the guy sings, dances in a club, hooks up with a scantily clad beautiful woman, some special effects get thrown in... snooze. Did they rush to send each other links to the wedding video using "Forever" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DCt3Lmi28)? Yes.... because that video was more entertaining and more original.

It cost Brown nothing. It demonstrably garnered him revenue. And the problem is...? That fans are being interactive and creative instead of sitting in their chairs listening reverently? That is the only "ethical" way to enjoy music, eh?

I guess we can sing to it, dance to it - but only in private or in a place like a club where the music has been licensed - and even then you better not record it with your digital camera and upload it to YouTube so you can show your friends your moves!

Apparently, the money you paid for that song/album in the first place allows you to listen to it in private, maybe with a few friends you've invited over. With Henley's strict stance, even messing around with his music in private is unethical in principle, even if no one else ever sees it. You're still treating it like a "plaything," after all, and therefore sinning against him as The Artist.

What I really find unfair is that people who do this are getting lumped in with file sharers and music pirates, as if there were no moral distinction between stealing music and engaging with it creatively.

I wish Henley could join those songwriters and musicians who delight in the non-commercial creative ventures their music inspires in others - like his own songwriter Larry J. McNally, for instance, who complimented a video done to the Eagles' recording of his song "I Love to Watch a Woman Dance."

Ironically, Henley himself has engaged in the derivative works he rails against - do you think Fox News or any of the other networks/news channels gave permission for their clips to be flashed behind him while he sings "Dirty Laundry" during an Eagles show? What about the personalities involved - was Sean Hannity's permission sought? Bill O'Reilly? Barbara Walters'?

What about the bloggers and websites shown, such as PerezHilton.com and the Drudge report? Was their permission sought? Have they received any compensation?

What about all those magazines tossed on the pile? Were each of the publishing companies who produced those magazines paid for that? What about the personalities who appeared on the cover of those magazines? Were they paid for the use of their image? Has Sarah Palin received a check?

And look at Henley photo-shopped onto the cover of Time magazine at the end... it's funny and I love it, but was Time paid for the use of their logo? Wouldn't stupid people believe that was an actual cover and therefore falsely associate Time with Henley?

By putting those clips and images to the soundtrack of "Dirty Laundry," Henley is changing their meaning, isn't he? Isn't that transformative? Isn't that what he condemns when it's his music that's being used? It's video and not music and I believe it all falls under "fair use," but it's still "playing" with copyrighted material - something he characterizes as unethical.

I'm not trying to diss Henley here; he sincerely believes in what he's saying and he has his reasons. However, I wish he could understand that it's not as black and white as he perceives it to be.

Some interesting reading:

Soul Music Owes Its Existence to Derivative Work (http://yupnet.org/boyle/archives/130)

Bad Copyright Laws Are Killing Jazz and Harming Jazz Musicians (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100615/0255059823.shtml)

Cut It Up: Copyright, Creativity, and the Global Remix Culture (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/cut-it-copyright-creativity-and-global-remix-culture)

The above articles do not call for the discarding of copyright law, but for reform of it to make it less strict and stifling to creativity.

And here's a few examples which all call into question the immorality of people uploading themselves singing covers or making non-commercial small-time amateur videos sound-tracked to songs written by others:

Teen Sensation Justin Bieber discovered when manager saw him singing covers on YouTube (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/teen-pop-star-justin-bieber-discovered-youtube/story?id=9068403)

Journey's new lead singer discovered when group saw him singing covers on YouTube (http://www.carloople.com/2008/01/17/pinoy-arnel-pineda-discovered-by-us-journey-band-on-youtube/)

YouTube turns Aspiring Singers into Stars (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/04/eveningnews/main6743700.shtml)

Train links to an unauthorized use of Soul Sister by UVIC on their Facebook and encourages their fans to watch it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGDRSWB46w)

Songwriter Larry J. McNally applauds unauthorized video done to Eagles song "I Love to Watch a Woman Dance" which he wrote (http://www.larryjohnmcnally.com/wordpress/?m=200711)

Do Viral Music Videos Sell Records? (http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2010/06/do-viral-music-videos-sell-records-a-closer-look-at-ok-go/)

Chris Brown's sales go up after couple uses his song in their wedding video uploaded to YouTube (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/youtube-trumpets-popularity-of-viral-wedding-dance/)

Food for thought. I won't presume to say I know I'm right, but I do feel my opinion has a lot of evidence to back it up, and is therefore just as valid as Henley's regardless of the fact that I am "just" a fan.

[Maleah]

I adore Don, as everyone well knows......but I 199% agree with absolutely everything you've said! However, I don't think Don will ever notice that there's a flip side to every coin. lol

[Brooke]

If he could read Soda's comments, maybe, just maybe, he could begin to have an inkling and understand!

But that probably won't happen. :-(

[Freypower]

Soda, that was so eloquent. I agree with it too. Henley's narrow focus on 'copyright' ignores the wider implications and benefits that YouTube offers.

[sodascouts]

TechDirt adds their two cents (ignore the lame comments after the article):

Don Henley Hates YouTube; Complains That the Government Needs to Do Something (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100805/15015310512.shtml)

[Freypower]

Someday, somewhere, some poster who doesn't like Henley or the Eagles will come up with something more original than Denis Leary's line (which I find funny, I admit, but it has been overused) or The Dude's fictional line if they think Henley/Eagles are wrong on some issue. I am not holding my breath. Article good, comments mostly pathetic.

[TimothyBFan]

I have only 2 words to say..... NARROW MINDEDNESS!!!

[sodascouts]

Someday, somewhere, some poster who doesn't like Henley or the Eagles will come up with something more original than Denis Leary's line (which I find funny, I admit, but it has been overused) or The Dude's fictional line if they think Henley/Eagles are wrong on some issue.

Seriously! I thought the same thing. How long ago did Leary say that? Early nineties, right? And The Big Lebowski came out in the late nineties. That's over a decade ago, folks, and in Leary's case nigh on 20 years. Get some new lines, people. If you're going to be insulting you can at least be clever about it... but perhaps that's too much to ask from people who instead of addressing Don's opinions on an intellectual level, prefer to attack him personally.

[Freypower]

We have addressed this before but the band recorded How Long only because Soda put the old version on YouTube and Glenn's kids watched it. I suppose if Don was against recording it for this reason he kept quiet.

[sodascouts]

We have addressed this before but the band recorded How Long only because Soda put the old version on YouTube and Glenn's kids watched it.

That's something that's always mystified me about Don's hard-line attitude towards YouTube.

Glenn was very open about getting the idea to record "How Long" from his kids/wife watching the 1973 video of them performing it in Holland on YouTube (which, as FP points out, I uploaded - both on YouTube and on GFO (http://www.glennfreyonline.com/multimedia/live/HowLongHolland73.wmv)). That song was subsequently released as the lead single off of Long Road Out of Eden and demonstrably generated revenue for them, not to mention the song won a freaking Grammy.... yet Don chooses to ignore this fact when castigating YouTube.

Obviously, he has problems with YouTube on a theoretical level in spite of how it has benefited him on a practical level. If he wants to concentrate on the theoretical, he has every right to do so, but I think in the interest of fairness Don should at least acknowledge that benefit when discussing YouTube.

[Prettymaid]

Ironically, Henley himself has engaged in the derivative works he rails against - do you think Fox News or any of the other networks/news channels gave permission for their clips to be flashed behind him while he sings "Dirty Laundry" during an Eagles show? What about the personalities involved - was Sean Hannity's permission sought? Bill O'Reilly? Barbara Walters'?

Just trying to get caught up on this thread and I have to admit that I never thought of this but it is a very valid point.

[sodascouts]

On the heels of our discussion, here is a funny blog detailing a history of Henley or Eagles song spoofs:

http://flavorwire.com/110605/the-hilarity-of-don-henleys-influence-a-history

Note the "Avocado" reference! Great minds think alike.

BTW I had no idea William Hung had covered Hotel California... SO BAD.

[Maleah]

BTW I had no idea William Hung had covered Hotel California... SO BAD.

I didn't know that either until I read it somewhere else recently. That is one cover I am NOT going to search for. LOL

[Prettymaid]

I'm sorry Weird Al! I didn't know you had thought of Avocado first! :fear:

[sodascouts]

I'm sure yours is better, PM. Hopefully Weird Al will never try to sue you. ;)

[Prettymaid]

Aww thanks Soda - I think!

[sodascouts]

Judge for yourself (it's part of a medley so it's very brief):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseN-YJxbtY

For those unfamiliar with it, check out PM's:

https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=77917&highlight=avocado#post77917

ETA: Just went back and re-read that parody thread. Oh my gosh, it was hilarious!

[GlennLover]

That was great, PM! You've got Weird Al all beat to heck. LOL!

[Prettymaid]

Yeah, that thread was a lot of fun.

[sodascouts]

Don gets a mention as a financial supporter of Senate incumbent Harry Reid to the tune of $2400:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/115331-reid-cashes-in-on-star-power

[Koala]

Don Henley Airs Conservative Views on Copyright Law
Henley blames 'online retailers' for 'bullying' recording industry

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/194542

[TimothyBFan]

Nothing new there huh? Poor Don, fighting a losing battle.

[sodascouts]

The suggestion to remove copyright law enforcement from under the purview of the Library of Congress to the Dept. of Commerce aspect is new. I hadn't heard that before. I guess he feels the DoC would be more aggressive and come down harder, but the issue he complains about - The DMCA's "Safe Harbor" legal protection of sites like YouTube - would not be affected by such a move. The courts have ruled on that. (See Viacom vs. YouTube (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-prevails-in-viacom-youtube-copyright-lawsuit-appeals-on-deck/36229) decision. Of couse, Viacom is appealing.)

He also for the first time admits the futility of constantly policing the sites and recognizes the ill-will it generates among the fan community:

Without this change, copyright owners are left with the unjustifiable and oppressive burden of constant policing of the online companies’ sites, which has little real effect on the continual problem of infringement of property, and serves mostly to embitter fans and the users of these sites.

So he knows this, but apparently he still feels it is worth his while to persist in the removals. I don't get that.

At any rate, I'm not sure why Rolling Stone seems so astonished by his viewpoint. Where have they been?

[Freypower]

I think the key is the word 'conservative'. They expect someone who is known for his 'liberal' views to be less 'rigid' on issues such as this. They don't spend much time following this sort of case because it would mean less time for them to salivate over the every move of certain other artists I will not name.

[sodascouts]

Some responses to Don's statements. They make interesting reading.

"Don Henley Still Really Confused" - TechDirt.com (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100827/03550310793.shtml)

"Don Henley: 'Eliminate or Drastically Reduce Safe Harbor Provision'" - ZeroPaid.com (http://www.zeropaid.com/news/90455/don-henley-eliminate-or-drastically-limit-safe-harbor-provision/)

"Trade Groups: Policing Our General Copyrights Is Just Too Hard" - Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/08/trade-groups-policing-our-digital-copyrights-is-just-too-hard.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)

"Don Henley: 'Copyright Office Clearly Has Not Been a Strong Enough Advocate for Copyright Holders'" - Clancco (http://clancco.com/wp/2010/08/28/don-henley-copyright-office-clearly-has-not-been-a-strong-enough-advocate-for-copyright-owners/)

[ticky]

Here's an exclusive interview with Don from Diablo (San Fransisco East Bay Magazine) about a solo concert on September 20th! at Wente Vineyards. Sounds like a great opportunity to see Don close up and personal *G*
Awesome Exclusive Interview with Don Henley of the Eagles (http://www.diablomag.com/D-blog/Petes-Popcorn-Picks/September-2010/Awesome-Exclusive-Interview-with-Don-Henley-of-the-Eagles/index.php?previewmode=on)

[sodascouts]

Cool! Some comments about the interview:

- How old is this reporter to entitle his story "Awesome Exclusive Interview with Don Henley"?

- People talking on cell phones during concerts - especially when doing so loud enough for the artist to hear - need to have their butts kicked. The texting, while rude, at least isn't disruptive to others. I remember at the Chicago show seeing the person next to me checking their e-mail via iPhone in the middle of the concert and I'm thinking "Seriously???" But it's become an addiction. They don't even understand it's rude anymore, I think. I told my class the other day, "Put away your cell phones while I'm teaching. I don't want them to be out anywhere you can see them, because I know you'll be glancing at them, your fingers itching to touch them, desperate longing on your face, and I want to help you resist the temptation to sneak a peek." I got some laughs as I continued in a melodramatic voice, "I know how you love your dear cell phone, how you clutch it to your chest and say 'Cell phone, I need you! I adore you! You are everything to me!' - but you and the love of your life will have to be separated for the next 50 minutes."

- "What is the most satisfying thing about the ongoing success of the band, and being able to perform 'Already Gone' to stadium crowds after all these years?" Don was polite not to reply "We don't." But his abrupt answer shows his annoyance, I think. Still, they play an excerpt from that song on their ad for the tour...

The interview picks up after that, though.

I'm with Don that "Waiting in the Weeds" is extremely underrated. What a masterpiece.


Stan [Lynch] is one of my best friends, my son’s godfather.

I didn't know that - cool. Like the author, I like to find out little things like who these guys hang with and consider good friends.


[Lynch and I] work together often and are currently co-producing my next album, which will be a collection of country songs – originals and covers.

Oooh! This is promising! Don Henley goes hard-core country. He's letting the Texan go wild (although I think the only time he is "quasi-redneck" is when he lies out too long by his mansion's swimming pool). I bet it will be great. On a side note, I have read interviews where Glenn said he planned to do this back in 1994 (hence the country-flavored "Girl from Yesterday" on HFO), but that never materialized. Don has a better track record of actually following through with such things, though, much as I admire Glenn. I haven't forgotten about Glenn's stated intention to make an album of big band covers, but since that was several years ago now, I think I should. :(

And check out the story Don tells about a US spy plane crew in a prison camp, amongst other stories. Fascinating. He must be so proud.

[Maleah]

I read that interview earlier too. Loved the stores about HC! How amazing that must feel! I laughed at Don's response about the greatest achievement being the ongoing success of the band because it was short and to the point, and obviously a little on the annoyed side. lol

[sodascouts]

I find it interesting that it seems Don is more comfortable doing e-mail interviews, while the rest of the guys do phone interviews. I guess he appreciates the fact that e-mail interviews give him more time to think and craft his responses to perfection. ;)

[Maleah]

I 100% agree! Even during phone interviews or face to face interviews, it seems like Don often pauses to give thought to what he's going to say. I can only imagine that he likes the extra time he gets with the email versions. lol

[TimothyBFan]

Another interesting incident occurred back in the spring of 2001 when a U.S Navy surveillance plane collided in mid-air with a communist Chinese fighter jet. A Chinese pilot was killed and the U.S. spy plane had to make an emergency landing on the Chinese-controlled island of Hainan in the South China Sea. The 24 crew members were captured and interrogated by the Chinese authorities until the U.S. government issued a letter of apology. During the 11 days of their detainment, the crew gradually developed good relations with their guards, with one guard asking them for the lyrics to "Hotel California".

When I first started reading this, I was afraid he was going to say that the detainees were tortured by having to listen to Hotel California over and over. ;)

Good interview.

[Brooke]

Finally got time to read that interview. Loved it!

So, has WITW been released as a single? How can he expect it to become 'rated' if it's not released? The average music listener won't ever hear it. It's my very favorite on the LROOE cds.

Loved the stories about HC, too! :cool:

[Koala]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-music/q-a-don-henley-651970.html

Q&A: Don Henley of the Eagles

[sodascouts]

Henley no longer does phone interviews -- he says he prefers to respond to questions on his own time and can be more articulate answering e-mailed queries.
Looks like we guessed right there!


Atlanta is always on our tour schedule. It’s one of our strongest fan bases
Interesting.


I don’t think that the fans want to hear any speeches from us Especially if a speech means we'll have a shorter encore.


We don’t have a group ritual. Sports teams have a pregame “pump-up” because they’re trying to crush an opponent. We don’t have an opponent. We just have thousands of allies.
It's true we're all allies, but his reason for "pump-up" sure is negative. I always thought it was to build solidarity and a feeling of brotherhood - no matter what happens, we're in it together. And didn't they used to do something like this by singing "Seven Bridges Road" back in the day? Did he view performing back then as trying to crush an opponent? Not the audience, necessarily, but perhaps personal demons.

Or I might be making too much out of that statement!


I enjoy working on two projects at once because one informs the other. Country and R&B share some basic elements. There will be original material and some covers on both recordings.

This is so cool. It reminds me of Lindsey Buckingham putting out two albums in as many years - one acoustic and one electric. Just record the songs at one time and put them on the album that fits 'em.


Ray Charles and Otis Redding, both native Georgians, had a profound effect on me.

Ooh, work the local angle. Smooth, Don, smooth!

And then, he goes on to diss Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Nothing new there.

As for Twitter, here's what I get when I do a search for "Don Henley":
http://twitter.com/search/users?q=don+henley&category=people&source=find_on_twitter

But in all seriousness, I can relate to the fraud aspect at least. Some of you may remember this:
https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1666

[Koala]

http://www.austin360.com/music/acl-fest-2010-preview-the-eagles-952763.html

ACL Fest 2010 preview: The Eagles
It's a Don Henley interview

[AmarilloByMorning]

"You could say that those songs have memorable melodies, married to decent lyrics."
Excessive modesty, party of one...

[Koala]

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20101008/ENTERTAINMENT/101009322/-1/sports?Title=Don-Henley-of-the-Eagles-answers-a-few-questions

Don Henley of the Eagles answers a few questions

[Koala]

Henley shares views on legacy, music industry

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2010/10/21/henley_shares_views_on_legacy_music_industry.aspx

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, that was a very interesting read. I particularly liked the optimism displayed in the last question :thumbsup: ...



JM: In an interview with CNN, you said that your latest album will probably be the last for The Eagles. After so many years, how does a band come to a decision like this, or know when it's time to stop?

DH: Well, that statement was just my personal opinion. The band, as a unit, hasn’t come to any such decision.

In any case, I think we’ll know, intuitively, when it’s time to stop. But it would be foolish to hang it up, now, when we’re still filling arenas and stadiums all over the world.

We’re enjoying the fruits of our labor.

[Prettymaid]

Of course the part Dreamer quoted caught my eye too, but Mr. Henley made me stop and think with this.


I’d hate to be starting out in these times, in this throw-away culture. So many things, now, are ephemeral, disposable. Nothing seems to be made to last and I think that’s because we’ve lost our attentiveness, our discernment, both as creators and consumers.
We don’t demand quality, so we don’t get it. There is still some good music being made, but a lot of what’s out there, now — to borrow a phrase from “Hamlet” — is just “... sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
But, everything runs in cycles and, sooner or later, we’ll come to the end of this one.

[sodascouts]

One of Don's better interviews; very well-written. You can tell he took some time with it. He makes good sense and I can understand where's he coming from better with this article than some of his others. He makes a lot of good points.

I agree that all things go in cycles, and in the digital era, those cycles become shorter and shorter. Look at MySpace - it used to be ubiquitous, but now it's fading. For good or for ill, nothing lasts forever.... and that includes corporations.

I found his comments about the money being in touring now to be food for thought. If it's true that the music industry is going back to being live-based, it would ironically be a throwback to pre-acetate days when being a musician meant being able to sing for your supper on a regular basis. Music was still a business - instruments have been made and sold for thousands of years; you can find them in ancient Egypt. People were paid to sing and play. They might not have become billionaires, but they were able to make a living doing what they loved. The profession of the musician has been around long before the evolution of the record company and will continue even if that corporate entity collapses.

Then, people could not hide their inadequacies through studio tricks. Perhaps it is time for a return to that paradigm. In such a paradigm, the attitude would become "They sounded great live; let's buy their stuff" rather than the record-label paradigm, which is the opposite. Their attitude: "You need us to get your name out there; that's the only way people will buy your album. Then, if they like it, they'll go see you live and buy more."

Don is right that in such a system - the system in which he and the Eagles thrived - the record labels are necessary. In the live-based scenario, perhaps they will not be, especially as the power of the internet continues to grow. What Don sees as a "myth" now might become quite possible before long.

After all, Mozart didn't need a record company to have a "lifetime career of scale."

Industries change. I bet the carriage-making industry was hit hard when everybody started using those darn cars.... cycles indeed.

And I bet that in 50 years, Google will also be a thing looked back upon with nostalgia and missed by those who benefited from that "sovereign nation."

In the end, though, it's all about the music. It's wrong to illegally download songs and I condemn that, but such behavior won't destroy music. Nothing can do that.

[Freypower]

Oh dear, oh dear. I am sorry Don, but the words 'sound and fury signifying nothing ' are from Macbeth, not Hamlet. They are from the greatest soliloquy of all time which begins 'tomorrow & tomorrow & tomorrow/creeps in this petty pace from day to day'.

The relevant part is:

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing

I can understand why he might confuse it with Hamlet, however.

Please excuse me getting on my Shakespearean high horse. His comments were very interesting.

[sodascouts]

Yeah, he messed up on attribution, but at least the quote itself was used effectively within the context of what Don was saying. I always respect the incorporation of Shakespeare! Besides, he gave some props to his college profs, so I refrained from drawing attention to his slip-up. ;)

By the way, something just occurred to me... I wonder if the wording of the line from Waiting in the Weeds - "while peacocks prance and strut upon the stage" - is inspired by Macbeth's bitterly despairing soliloquy?

[Koala]

Don Henley on the Eagles: 'It Would Be Foolish to Hang It Up Now'


http://www.670kboi.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=115&itemid=29591188

[TimothyBFan]

Right you are Don, right you are!!! :thumbsup:

[Troubadour]

I know nothing is guaranteed, and Don's mind seems to change with the weather regarding this issue ;) but reading that makes me happy.

Truthfully, while they're still fit enough to tour, and still selling the tickets... I can't see them giving it up. It's what they do, and what they've always done. Despite the downsides, it's obviously still a great thrill to tour and perform their songs to crowds all over the world.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I bet it's safe to say that most of us here would not take exception to Don's remarks in that interview. :partytime:

[Scarlet Sun]

One of Don's better interviews; very well-written. You can tell he took some time with it. He makes good sense and I can understand where's he coming from better with this article than some of his others. He makes a lot of good points.

I agree that all things go in cycles, and in the digital era, those cycles become shorter and shorter. Look at MySpace - it used to ubiquitous, but now it's fading. For good or for ill, nothing lasts forever.... and that includes corporations.

I found his comments about the money being in touring now to be food for thought. If it's true that the music industry is going back to being live-based, it would ironically be a throwback to pre-acetate days when being a musician meant being able to sing for your supper on a regular basis. Music was still a business - instruments have been made and sold for thousands of years; you can find them in ancient Egypt. People were paid to sing and play. They might not have become billionaires, but they were able to make a living doing what they loved. The profession of the musician has been around long before the evolution of the record company and will continue even if that corporate entity collapses.

Then, people could not hide their inadequacies through studio tricks. Perhaps it is time for a return to that paradigm. In such a paradigm, the attitude would become "They sounded great live; let's buy their stuff" rather than the record-label paradigm, which is the opposite. Their attitude: "You need us to get your name out there; that's the only way people will buy your album. Then, if they like it, they'll go see you live and buy more."

Don is right that in such a system - the system in which he and the Eagles thrived - the record labels are necessary. In the live-based scenario, perhaps they will not be, especially as the power of the internet continues to grow. What Don sees as a "myth" now might become quite possible before long.

After all, Mozart didn't need a record company to have a "lifetime career of scale."

Industries change. I bet the carriage-making industry was hit hard when everybody started using those darn cars.... cycles indeed.

And I bet that in 50 years, Google will also be a thing looked back upon with nostalgia and missed by those who benefited from that "sovereign nation."

In the end, though, it's all about the music. It's wrong to illegally download songs and I condemn that, but such behavior won't destroy music. Nothing can do that.
very nice!

[Prettymaid]

-- Ever since they got back together in 1994 for their Hell Freezes Over tour, The Eagles have been constantly threatening to break up again, this time for good. But according to comments recently made Don Henley, that threat seems to have lifted.


I'm not sure about the "constantly threatening to break up" remark. Yes, they have talked about shortening their shows or not touring anymore but just because a band doesn't make records or tour anymore doesn't necessarily mean they're broken up, does it? I mean, they've not talked about desolving the band since HFO, have they?

[sodascouts]

Well, when the guys were being inducted into the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame in 1998, Glenn characterized their time as a band as if it were over:

"Over the nine years that the Eagles were together during the seventies, over the three years that we were together during our reunion..." ie, the band had not been "together" since 1996.

That all changed just a year later in the latter half of 1999, when they were planning the release of the Selected Works and the Millennium concerts, as well as the possibility of a new album... which led to the attempt to renegotiate Felder's contract - we all know how that went!

Since then, they've been touring off and on. However, in 2005, Glenn did talk of "ending it" and that talk has come up again. Does he mean "ending it" with regard to touring and making music together (which would end it in all but name) or officially "breaking up"? Who knows.

I do agree that the "constantly threatening to break up" is a mischaracterization.

[sodascouts]

very nice!

Thanks!

[Prettymaid]

I remember when Glenn was going around with Natalie Mains promoting the summer tour he said something like, 'The Stones didn't break up - they just went and did their own thing separately. At the time we didn't know we could do that or we would have done that too.'

Well, now they know they can do that. I can't believe the Eagles would ever break up again knowing they can just go off and do their own thing. Even if they were to never perform together again that wouldn't be considered a break up.

[Koala]

Don Henley checks in

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/27/1893680/don-henley-checks-in.html

[Peekaboo]

Not sure if this has been posted or not. Got this in a Google alert but it's from an article on Oct. 3rd. I only just now read it because I'm way behind on checking my email.

http://lubbockonline.com/entertainment/2010-10-03/jeff-nicholson-and-eagleslocal-criminal-defense-attorney-collects

Pretty cool that this guy has gotten autographs from every member of the Eagles former and present.


The local attorney also enjoys sharing another encounter that took place “following a Henley solo show in Oklahoma City a couple of years ago.”
Nicholson, his wife and sons headed to an IHOP south of town. There, he said, “We had a late night breakfast with Henley and some of his friends.
This in particular caught my attention. I was at that concert.

[tequila girl]

They’ve kept their chops up.

Could someone please explain to be what this expression means? i've seen it used a few times and im stumped!

[Prettymaid]

Could someone please explain to be what this expression means? i've seen it used a few times and im stumped!

chops (chhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/obreve.gifps)
pl.n. 1. The jaws.
2. a. The mouth.
b. The lower cheeks or jowls.
c. Muttonchops.

3. Slang The technical skill with which a jazz or rock musician performs.

So in this case the author is saying, they've still got it!

Can you imagine seeing Don Henley in an IHOPS!!!???!!! Either this guy is really lucky or he's a stalker! :hilarious:

[tequila girl]

3. Slang The technical skill with which a jazz or rock musician performs.

So in this case the author is saying, they've still got it!

Can you imagine seeing Don Henley in an IHOPS!!!???!!! This guy is really lucky or he's a stalker! :hilarious:
Thanks that's the one I was looking for! :thumbsup:...........and I just had to google Ihops - never heard of them, you learn something every day :)

[Ive always been a dreamer]

The local attorney also enjoys sharing another encounter that took place “following a Henley solo show in Oklahoma City a couple of years ago.”
Nicholson, his wife and sons headed to an IHOP south of town. There, he said, “We had a late night breakfast with Henley and some of his friends.


This in particular caught my attention. I was at that concert.

Well, Jess - too bad you weren't at that IHOP as well!

[sodascouts]

Have to admit I'm really surprised Don would darken the door of an IHOP -are there very few restaurants open late at night in that area, Peek?

[Koala]

Racy VH1 Doc Tells Of Eagles Drummer's Mile-High Threesome

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/racy-vh1-doc-tells-of-eagles-drummers-mile-high-th/47048/

[sodascouts]

Yeah, seems like Don was extremely into the multiple partners thing back in the day, and had taken to hiring "sets" of high-class hookers instead of just one at a time - See You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again. That was only, of course, when groupies like Connie weren't available!

As for this story, Connie's sure getting a lot of mileage out of it. ;)

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, I have to say that I got quite a giggle out of this ...


This is pretty much a new variation on the same story Connie has been selling for years on daytime talk shows, but it always seems to make for good press. But you have to wonder where fellow Eagle Glenn Frey was when all this was happening? Reading up on how to fly a plane, perhaps?

Yep - Glenn was fiercely hitting the books ... and all the while we thought Henley was the studious one! :lol:

[Freypower]

From Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/photos/the-15-most-eco-friendly-rockers-20101216/don-henley-0686162

It's news to me that it was Henley who released Common Thread, no matter where the royalties went.

[sodascouts]

Yes, that phrasing was a bit misleading, but it's always nice to see Don getting recognized for his work.

[Prettymaid]

Not to steal the thread, but there was one particular rocker I went looking for when I read the title The 15 Most Eco Friendly Rockers - and I found him...in Bonnie Raitt's photo :eyebrow:. I would have thought JB would have his own mention, but oh well...

And yes, of course I saw our Don! It's always nice to see our favorite rock stars doing good things! :nod:

[Koala]

DON HENLEY IS A SOUL MAN

http://bitchback.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/683/

[tequila girl]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[tequila girl]

Guess I'll have to re-read this article as I wasn't sure if this person really liked Don.:hilarious:jk......:angel:I think he did!! :love::grouphug::xoxo::smokin:

:evil::steviesmack::argue::fight: :robinhood: :hilarious:

[TimothyBFan]

That was really nice!! Loved all the added vids also!:thumbsup:

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, I think it goes without saying that I definitely agree with this person about how great Don's voice is. And I even agree that Don's verse in Leather and Lace is my favorite part. But, I can't agree with the comments about Stevie's inferior contributions to the song. What makes the song for me is that it is a duet with two totally unique, awesome voices. And just in case the writer doesn't know it, Stevie is the one that wrote the song.

[Brooke]

"he writes great songs, but it is that voice."

Yep, that's what did it for me! That...............and other things! :hilarious:

Seriously though, his voice is nothing short of awesome.

[sodascouts]

Yeah, this was positive about Don but why the digs at Stevie? :steviesmack:

[EaglesKiwi]

"It’s just raw emotion- and which comes through in his songs and what he puts into his songs."

I certainly agree with this part - and I love the emotion both in the writing and the performing!

[Troubadour]

Ah yes... that voice. :inlove:

[Koala]

http://admpreview.straitstimes.com:90/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=83835d991da5d210VgnVCM10000043 0a0a0aRCRD&vgnextchannel=e981758920e39010VgnVCM1000000a35010a RCRD

Together for the long run

[tequila girl]

Great find (yet again) Koala!! :thumbsup:

Woohooo love this bit.........



This year will yield another big feather in their cap - the 40th anniversary of the Eagles - and a short film is being made about their history. and lots of other bits too of course! :partytime:

[Brooke]

Great interview!

Loved this:

"This year will yield another big feather in their cap - the 40th anniversary of the Eagles - and a short film is being made about their history."

OMG, this is too much to comprehend! :yay:

And interesting that his oldest daughter is mentioned.

"Henley, who has two other daughters aged 10 and 35, "

:shock: Hmmmmmm.

[sodascouts]

Yeah, she hardly ever gets mentioned! I think it's cool that he's acknowledging her.

And a film - holy crap! That's awesome! The only part of that I don't like is "short." lol I imagine it will be a documentary, only this time officially sanctioned. Think of all the rare footage we'll get to see, the as-yet-untold stories! (Hopefully I'm not expecting too much.) Wouldn't it be a hoot, though, if it was an actual short movie, with actors playing the guys in their younger days?

[tequila girl]

I imagine it will be a documentary, only this time officially sanctioned. Think of all the rare footage we'll get to see, the as-yet-untold stories! Wouldn't it be a hoot, though, if it was an actual short movie, with actors playing the guys in their younger days?

A documentary will be fine by me! :thumbsup: :partytime: I actually wouldn't want a movie, with some actors playing the parts....it just wouldn't be right! :fear:

[Annabel]

Loving this :thumbsup: and great news about the short film. :yay:

[Prettymaid]

That is the single best interview I have read by any of the Eagles in a long time! Practically every paragraph was filled with info I didn't know or had not heard before. I worry about Don's voice - he seems concerned about it.

Thanks Koala!

[Brooke]

I sooooooo hope it will be footage that we've not seen before. Pleeeeeeease give us some new old stuff guys! :pray:

[TimothyBFan]

Finally got around to reading this. WOW!!!!

Thought of all our Don lovers when I read this line-" he said, intense blue eyes holding your gaze."

"He understands the redemptive, even healing, power of rock music"-Ain't it the truth Don!!!

I'm with everyone here regarding the making of the film!!! How cool will that be. I don't care what it contains--just GIVE IT TO ME BABY!!!!

[Eve]

I just now read this interview. Once again, good find Koala!

I found the little Wal-Mart bit interesting. Then they go and release their first album in, how many years?, and it is only sold at...Wal-Mart.

[Freypower]

I just now read this interview. Once again, good find Koala!

I found the little Wal-Mart bit interesting. Then they go and release their first album in, how many years?, and it is only sold at...Wal-Mart.

Was it only sold at Wal-Mart in the United States?

[Maleah]

I think they had a contract where it could only be sold through Walmart for the first year.....or something along those lines.

[sodascouts]

I was a little surprised about the Wal-mart comment, considering their prior professional relationship, but kudos to him for being real.

I remember at the time of the deal the Eagles made with Wal-mart (Like Maleah, I remember it being that Wal-mart was given exclusive distribution rights for one year), Mr. Henley ( ;) ) made it a point to say that many of Wal-mart's practices had changed for the better in recent years and that they were contributing significantly to the Walden Woods Project and other charities.

Whether one approves or disapproves, their deal with Wal-mart enabled LROOE to finally get made - not because of the fact that they needed Wal-mart to bankroll them, but because they needed an authoritative entity to hold them to a deadline so that they were motivated to get the songs done. "Yeah, we really should do that soon..." because "OK, we have to do this NOW." And for that, I am grateful.

[Annabel]

Was it only sold at Wal-Mart in the United States?

Wal-mart bought out Asda in the UK. But in answer to your question I bought my copy from Sainsbury's in my food shopping. Pretty much any shop selling cd's sold them here. (mostly supermarkets these days. :))

[tequila girl]

I think I pre-ordered mine from Play.com....or maybe Amazon

[Eve]

because they needed an authoritative entity to hold them to a deadline so that they were motivated to get the songs done. "Yeah, we really should do that soon..." because "OK, we have to do this NOW."

LOL! They are grown men, they shouldn't need an authoritative entity to hold them to a deadline.

[Maleah]

They may be grown men but even grown men sometimes need someone to give them a big push towards the finish line, in this case a finished product. ;) At 27 years old, I sometimes need it too! For instance, cleaning my apartment.......I always say "I really need to get that done." I usually say it as I sit in my recliner reading a book, surfing the net, or playing a game. LOL However, when I make plans for someone to come over to my place, it suddenly becomes "ok...I HAVE to get this place clean....in 3 hours!!!" Which is quickly followed by my moment of freaking out and then a mad dash at cleaning. lol

[sodascouts]

Same here, Maleah. In fact, truth be told, the ONLY time I clean is when company is coming over.

I saw this interview linked on Facebook by 3E Tuesday morning but didn't get a chance to click on it until Koala posted it here. It's very personal and humanizing. I understand he has to take care of his voice and not talk too much, but I like this kind of face-to-face interview much more than the e-mail ones. His answers to the email ones are always very studied, carefully constructed, and well-elucidated, but they don't have the same warmth.

[Maleah]

I pretty much only clean for company too Soda! The, uhm, problem is.....I don't get company very often. :blush: LOL

I LOVED this interview! One of my favorites I've ever read from Don. Somehow I had a hunch that Don would prefer to be called Mr. Henley, as a sign of respect. Guess I was right!

[sodascouts]

Somehow I had a hunch that Don would prefer to be called Mr. Henley, as a sign of respect.

Yep - me too!

[WalshFan88]

VERY cool! Can't wait for this documentary/short film.

[Prettymaid]

I pretty much only clean for company too Soda! The, uhm, problem is.....I don't get company very often. :blush: LOL

Well start cleaning ladies, 'cause I'm coming for a visit - first stop North Dakota and then Memphis! :hilarious: And I'm bringing my white glove with me!

I agree with Soda. This kind of interview is obviously the best. And kudos to the interviewer for asking good questions!

[Brooke]

Ok, I'm confused. (What else is new? lol) I read the interview, but is there a video too? I've looked around here and can't seem to find it.

As far as cleaning, girls, girls, :fingerwag: :fear: I clean (and hubby helps!) the whole house thoroughly every week! :nahnah:

[sodascouts]

Well start cleaning ladies, 'cause I'm coming for a visit - first stop North Dakota and then Memphis! :hilarious: And I'm bringing my white glove with me!

Well, it's not gonna be that color when you leave, lol!

Brooke - that article has no accompanying video; it just talks about the Eagles maybe making a short film.

[Maleah]

Well start cleaning ladies, 'cause I'm coming for a visit - first stop North Dakota and then Memphis! :hilarious: And I'm bringing my white glove with me!


Eek! So shall we plan for next year? You know....to give me time :fear: LOL


Brooke that's what my Mom did too! Somehow I think the cleaning gene missed me though. Tsk....such a shame. :hilarious:

[sodascouts]

Also worthy of note:

I wonder why the construction in Linden requires such close attention from Don? I just assumed he helped bankroll the restoration, not directed it. Interesting. I will have to go back and visit it - during the day this time. We don't want a repeat of my emotionally scarring LOST IN LINDEN (https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=125432#post125432) incident. lol


We love our work, we can't sit around and do nothing.'

That's what I like to hear!


'But I do look back and sometimes, I wish I knew what I knew now,' he said.Hmmm - see, this is why I wish Don would write a book. I'd like to know what he learned from all those wild experiences.


'The only good thing about being famous is, you can do things for people. And the bad thing is the c**p on the Internet. Something gets up on the Internet, it never goes away whether it's true or not.'You don't have to be famous to have people talk trash about you on the internet. I know this first hand! It sucks but you just gotta go on living your life the best way you know how and let your actions speak louder than their words. At least Don gets compensation, lol. And I think there might be a few other perks to fame... like never having to go without. Still, I appreciate the sentiment of his words.

He seems very, very concerned about being perceived as a "regular guy" and I think it's admirable. His hesitation to admitting to the occasional extravagance is quite a change from the old days indeed, when they boasted about having the money to use Lear jets for booty calls!

[Annabel]

Just found this with a mention of Don about 4 paragraphs down. (Not sure she is a fan :laugh: )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susanna-quinn/post_1630_b_814412.html

[sodascouts]

Apparently she caught him on a bad day.

Be careful what you say to kids, famous folks - it can come back to bite you when they grow up! lol

[Koala]

Henley to Receive Inaugural Recording Artists' Coalition Award

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-recording-academy-to-recognize-vice-president-joe-biden-senator-bob-corker-and-grammy-winning-recording-artist-don-henley-at-10th-annual-grammys-on-the-hill-awards-in-washington-dc-on-april-13-117922944.html

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for finding that, Detective Koala! That's quite an honor for Don to be recognized like this. YOU GO, DON!!! :rockon:

[tequila girl]

:partytime:Yayyyyyyy Go Don!! :drummer: :cool: :applause:

Great Find Koala, Thanks! :thumbsup:

[Annabel]

:rockon: Yay nice one. :applause: :applause:

[sodascouts]

Henley to Receive Inaugural Recording Artists' Coalition Award

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-recording-academy-to-recognize-vice-president-joe-biden-senator-bob-corker-and-grammy-winning-recording-artist-don-henley-at-10th-annual-grammys-on-the-hill-awards-in-washington-dc-on-april-13-117922944.html

Isn't Don the founder of the Recording Artists' Coalition? Is he giving the award to himself? ;)

Seriously, though, good for Don!

[EaglesKiwi]

Isn't Don the founder of the Recording Artists' Coalition? Is he giving the award to himself? ;)

Seriously, though, good for Don!
:rofl:

[DODH]

Maid! I am so glad you decided to stop lurking and post--and post about Don, my very favorite subject! Welcome!
I have never heard of Carla Olson nor have I ever seen that picture of Don with her. (I love Google too. ;) ) So Brittany is Eva Longoria's best friend, huh? If she was born in 1975, she would be 34 now. I bet there is a picture of Eva with her somewhere.

Thanks for all your digging. Good work--and we are glad you are here!


I found this on Brittany when she was younger and was in some Miss Teen pageants out of Round Rock. She sort of looks like Don in the eyes.

She is second from the left in the back row wearing the ivory/white colored dress with silver heels.

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa440/kimethakendall/brittanyolsonroundrocktexasmissteen2.jpg

[sodascouts]

A very lovely girl.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yes - Brittany is a very pretty lady - but then, she has good genes so I guess there is little wonder! :wink:

And the way I understand this is that it is a special grammy award that Don is being given in recognition of his work with the Recording Artists' Coalition.


Isn't Don the founder of the Recording Artists' Coalition? Is he giving the award to himself? ;)

Seriously, though, good for Don!

[sodascouts]

And the way I understand this is that it is a special grammy award that Don is being given in recognition of his work with the Recording Artists' Coalition.
I guess the award is especially designed to honor members of the RAC then, given its name.

[Brooke]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonFan
Maid! I am so glad you decided to stop lurking and post--and post about Don, my very favorite subject! Welcome!
I have never heard of Carla Olson nor have I ever seen that picture of Don with her. (I love Google too. ) So Brittany is Eva Longoria's best friend, huh? If she was born in 1975, she would be 34 now. I bet there is a picture of Eva with her somewhere.



I found this on Brittany when she was younger and was in some Miss Teen pageants out of Round Rock. She sort of looks like Don in the eyes.

She is second from the left in the back row wearing the ivory/white colored dress with silver heels.

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa440/kimethakendall/brittanyolsonroundrocktexasmissteen2.jpg

Ok, I'm confused here. (Doesn't take much) Who is Carla Olson, mentioned above, and who is Brittany?

[whitcap]

Ok, I'm confused here. (Doesn't take much) Who is Carla Olson, mentioned above, and who is Brittany?

Brittany is Don's oldest daughter.

[TimothyBFan]

A brief mention of Don in Sammy Hagar's book Red. Talking about Geffen Records & Warner Brothers Records when he first joined Van Halen. Geffen didn't want to give him up to Warner Brothers because he was their biggest act....

"As Geffen's distributor, Warner Bros. was taking 50 percent of Geffen's earnings and I was Geffen's biggest artist at the time. Elton John hadn't worked on Geffen's label. Neil Young was a disaster-Geffen ended up suing him. Donna Summer didn't have any hits for him. There was me; Don Henley, who had one big album; and John Lennon, who died shortly after giving Geffen his first album, although it did sell millions after he was shot. Geffen wasn't likely to let his biggest act walk across the street just because he wanted to sing with another band."

[TimothyBFan]

Under the category of very strange....

Sirius Classic Rewind is playing LITFL and before it started the DJ said that on April Fools Day, the Eagles official site, Eaglesband.com, reported that Don Henley would be recording with Patsy Cline and someone else who was deceased (don't remember who they said) because he's ran out of people to record with as a joke.

First of all---just went there and no such thing, in fact the last update looks to be from 2/10. We here all know that Eaglesband.com hardly ever updates anything. So where this info came from....who knows. Very strange!!

[GlennLover]

Under the category of very strange....

Sirius Classic Rewind is playing LITFL and before it started the DJ said that on April Fools Day, the Eagles official site, Eaglesband.com, reported that Don Henley would be recording with Patsy Cline and someone else who was deceased (don't remember who they said) because he's ran out of people to record with as a joke.

First of all---just went there and no such thing, in fact the last update looks to be from 2/10. We here all know that Eaglesband.com hardly ever updates anything. So where this info came from....who knows. Very strange!!

Willie, I got that as a Google alert. I believe the other person mentioned was Hank Williams. It was an April Fool joke posted by another site. Good imagination, though. :laugh:

[TimothyBFan]

Willie, I got that as a Google alert. I believe the other person mentioned was Hank Williams. It was an April Fool joke posted by another site. Good imagination, though. :laugh:

I knew there was no way it was on Eaglesband.com!! And you're right, it was Hank Williams now that you've jogged my memory.

[whitcap]

Under the category of very strange....

Sirius Classic Rewind is playing LITFL and before it started the DJ said that on April Fools Day, the Eagles official site, Eaglesband.com, reported that Don Henley would be recording with Patsy Cline and someone else who was deceased (don't remember who they said) because he's ran out of people to record with as a joke.

First of all---just went there and no such thing, in fact the last update looks to be from 2/10. We here all know that Eaglesband.com hardly ever updates anything. So where this info came from....who knows. Very strange!!

It was on the eaglesfans.com

[sodascouts]

Guys, I decided with all the talk about Don's new album/albums that I'd make a separate thread for it - you know there will only be more and more as the release date approaches, and I don't want it to get buried.

I went back through this thread and dug out all the relevant stuff - I tried my best to move it all, but there will inevitably be a bit of duplication. Still, I think it's worth it to give a special thread to Don's new albums. In fact, I think I'll do the same for stuff about Joe's new album when I get some time.

Here's the new thread for all things pertaining to the new albums:

https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3056

[Koala]

Don Henley Champions Musicians' Rights on the Hill

http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1104/don_henleys_riff_on_music_rights.html

[Koala]

GRAMMYs Take The Hill! Vice President Biden, Senator Bob Corker, Don Henley Honored By Paul Williams, Bruce Hornsby, Dave Koz & Stevie Wonder…

http://www.revamp.com/story.php?StoryID=1148

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks again for posting that, Koala. That was quite an honor for Don. He was in pretty good company here!

[sodascouts]

Definitely!

[TimothyBFan]

I don't remember if this has ever been mentioned here before and I had actually forgotten about it till I just read it.

I'm still reading Steven Adler's book and on page 188 he mentions how after rehab he had found out that GNR had played the AMAs without him.


When I got out, someone asked me why I hadn't appeared on the American Music Awards. I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. He proceeded to tell me that GNR performed "Patience" during the American Music Awards at the Shrine Auditorium with someone else on drums. I found out later that it was Don Henley of the Eagles who took my spot. I was completely blindsided by this, so stunned and hurt, I can't begin to describe the feeling of betrayal. Nobody in our organization ever mentioned anything about the AMAs to me. My first thought was: "And I didn't even need f***ing rehab!"

Here is a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TSA-yspDsc

And some screen caps I did.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/Don%20Henley/DonwithGNR.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/Don%20Henley/DonwithGNR2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/Don%20Henley/DonwithGNR3.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/williehoo/Don%20Henley/DonwithGNR4.jpg

ETA: I'm sorry---but this should of probably went in Don in The Press---Powers That Be, please move in you feel the need!!!!

[TimothyBFan]

Now that's my kind of picture of Don!!!! I just want to grab a fishing pole and join him on the riverbank!! LOVE LOVE LOVE outdoorsy Don!!!!!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for the screen caps, Willie.

Nice to know Steve wasn't bitter! :lol:

[Annabel]

With you on that Willie. Great photo. :thumbsup:

[Koala]

10 Richest Rock Singers

http://www.mademan.com/mm/10-richest-rock-singers.html


On this list Don is on place #3!



3. Don Henley:Lead singer of The Eagles, this superstar has an unbelievable $250 million, and worth every penny. Henley’s songs are soul-stirring, well-recorded and tasteful, and they all have a point: whether it's love, melancholia, nostalgia or even anger, it's always perfectly expressed. His prolific music is timeless.

[AzEaglesFan]

If you click on some of the other "Best Of" lists. Hotel California is on one list (Best Rock Song I think) and Desperado is on Best Rock Ballad list.

[Freypower]

10 Richest Rock Singers

http://www.mademan.com/mm/10-richest-rock-singers.html


On this list Don is on place #3!

It's in 'no particular order'.

I wonder how much the OTHER lead singer of the Eagles is worth.

[EaglesKiwi]

I agree with the comments on Don's music...

But I do find this type of list a little strange. There's a big difference between earning it and having/keeping it - firstly the many generous donations some of these (and other) musicians make to charity, and secondly some of them e.g. Paul McCartney have had to pay out $$$ for divorces. (Lots of them in Rod Stewart's case!).

[sodascouts]

There's very little information about how they estimate the kind of money these people have, so I take these lists with a grain of salt.... especially when the site also features lists such as "10 Tips on How to Masturbate." lol

[EaglesKiwi]

:shock::shock::shock::rofl:

[WalshFan88]

There's very little information about how they estimate the kind of money these people have, so I take these lists with a grain of salt.... especially when the site also features lists such as "10 Tips on How to Masturbate." lol

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Annabel]

My Google alert tonight is Don & Sharon's wedding anniversary tomorrow. 16 years :partytime:

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/19/2887272/save-the-date-this-week-in-celebrity.html

[sodascouts]

Cool! Celebrity / rock star marriages rarely make it to 16 years nowadays. Here's to Don and Sharon Henley - may they celebrate many more happy anniversaries together! :cheers:

[Brooke]

Good for them! :cheers:

[luvthelighthouse]

Found this when I was looking for something else. Not sure if it's been posted here before or not... it must be from last year...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstage/arena-rock/don-henley-0

Guess he still gets nervous before shows... lol

[Brooke]

Lol!

[sodascouts]

I've seen that before and always assumed it was from the late 80s or something... but now I see from the bottom corner of the source document (http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/donhenley1.gif) that it's dated May 3, 2000 - it's from the Inside Job tour. So we both guessed wrong, ltl!

I find it especially funny that the "SPECIAL NOTE" part of the rider in question is in all caps with an exclamation point. It's obviously VERY IMPORTANT! Sounds like it was probably added in reaction to some kind of emotionally scarring incident from a past tour involving backstage buddies of promoters. ;)

[tequila girl]

I've seen it somewhere before too........but can't remember where :confused:

[Henley Honey]

I'm sure without putting restrictions on the promoters it would be a free-for-all backstage so I can understand the rider, but he does seem like a bit of a diva with the "I can't go on" attitude. Dude. Chill.

[EaglesKiwi]

I have a lot of sympathy for him - I can only imagine some of the comments people have made over the years (based on what I see posted on the internet!). I understand him wanting a controlled environment before performing. And from watching the DVDs it does look like he still has occasional nervous moments while performing. (Okay, now I'll have to watch the DVDs again so I can back that comment up with examples! )

[luvthelighthouse]

I've seen that before and always assumed it was from the late 80s or something... but now I see from the bottom corner of the source document (http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/750x970/documents/donhenley1.gif) that it's dated May 3, 2000 - it's from the Inside Job tour. So we both guessed wrong, ltl!

I have to tell you... I'm happy to hear this was at least a decade ago! I was having such a hard time imagining Don saying he couldn't go on. lol

[sodascouts]

Hey guys - just wanna clarify - that scenario where Don says he "can't go on" is just the folks at SmokingGun.com poking fun at Don based on the "ARTIST WILL BECOME EXTREMELY UPSET" wording in all caps from the rider they obtained. It didn't really happen (as far as I know, lol).

[Henley Honey]

Thanks for clarifying. i could not picture him being that temperamental. Not my DH. Maybe his evil twin, but not Don.

[Koala]

The Eagles' Don Henley, Laura Bush and the Galveston mafia steal social headlines

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/06-28-11-the-eagles-don-henley-laura-bush-and-the-galveston-mafia-set-to-steal-social-headlines/



Audubon Society soars with an Eagle

When the Houston Audubon Society takes over Houston Country Club on Oct. 6, the award for Outstanding Achievement in Wetlands Conservation will got not to just any ordinary citizen but to Don Henley of The Eagles fame.

[sodascouts]

Congrats to Don!

[Troubadour]

Cool!

[Brooke]

Way to go Don! :thumbsup:

[Annabel]

:thumbsup: Nice one.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I'd like to also add my congrats to Don as well. Very well deserved!!! :nod:

[Maleah]

Congrats to Don from me as well! Very cool!

[tequila girl]

How did I miss this???? :headscratch:

Big Congrats to Don from me as well!! :applause: :applause:

[sodascouts]

Just a little mention: In Bob Lefsetz's newsletter, a piece of trivia appeared that I hadn't heard before - Mary Kay Place is the godmother to one of Don's children.

[Koala]

The future of Caddo: Hutchison, Henley tout importance of lake

http://www.news-journal.com/article_f14ef0ec-c427-11e0-8ea7-001cc4c03286.html

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss120/wall_e_2009/4e43e9edd2ea3_image.jpg?t=1313126652

[tequila girl]

Great Find Koala - Thanks! :thumbsup:

[Brooke]

Hey, Don in color! Looks good! :yay:

[sodascouts]

That color looks great on him indeed, and I love how invested Don is in Caddo Lake's welfare. I also like his comments about Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Don is not as unyieldingly partisan as some would like to paint him.

[Henley Honey]

I googled "Giant Salvinia" and watched an NBC report about the different plants that are killing the eco-system in lakes all across the Country. It's more widespread than I'd thought -- originating in South America. Like most things, prevention is half the battle, but it may be a losing battle with careless boaters unwittingly spreading the Species and their overwhelmingly fast reproduction. Scary stuff.


And, on a more frivolous note -- He Shaved Off the Goatee!!!! :yay:

[Koala]

A good friend of me send my this last night!
Its a short video with Don!

Caddo Lake Preservation

http://www.ktbs.com/news/26898589/detail.html

[sodascouts]

What a lovely video - especially full-screen! Seeing those birds fly away was uplifting. Don looks fabulous, too.

[tequila girl]

Great video Koala, thanks for sharing it and thanks to your friend too! :thumbsup:
But........."Former" Eagles member Don Henley????? :???:

[Brooke]

Ha! Question in the other thread answered! :doh:

[sodascouts]

But........."Former" Eagles member Don Henley????? :???:

One of those typical journalistic goof-ups. Some journalists think the band hasn't been together since 1980, lol.

[Prettymaid]

Having just recently watched videos of the release into the wild of the eagles I invested so much time watching from the nest to the wildlife center I really enjoyed this video, although having learned a lot on the subject my first response to them handling the adult eagle was that they were not properly holding it's head!

[Brooke]

But at least they knew some Don Henley trivia! :cool:

I enjoyed that, thanks Koala!

[Koala]

Don Henley Urges Artists to Know Their Rights

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/16/don-henley-urges-artists-to-know-their-rights/

[Troubadour]

That video... Sigh.

[Annabel]

Don Henley Urges Artists to Know Their Rights

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/16/don-henley-urges-artists-to-know-their-rights/


There are a few of these stories out atm. These were my google alerts tonight.

http://www.licklibrary.com/news/2011/8/1962-don_henley_fights_for_musicians_rights

http://www.antimusic.com/news/11/aug/19Eagles_Battling_Record_Label_Over_Ownership_Of_T heir_Music_.shtml

http://www.antimusic.com/news/11/aug/19Eagles_Battling_Record_Label_Over_Ownership_Of_T heir_Music_.shtml

[Koala]

Don Henley: Internet theft is a job-killer, too

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2011-08-21-counterfeit-copyright-protect-ip-act_n.htm

[EaglesKiwi]

Very interesting article. Must go check out the US law-making process... I get the feeling a lot more bills are introduced and discarded over there!

Thanks for the link, Koala.

[sodascouts]

Just got around to reading Henley's op-ed from USA Today - very interesting indeed. He certainly is a formidable rhetorician.

For those who are interested in hearing both sides of the debate, here are some other viewpoints:

Partial responses from the EFF, whom Henley includes in his criticism: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/eagles-singer-don-henley-eff-google-aid-and-abet-criminals.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss (I find the first response much better than Templeton's, which suffers from the fatal flaw of cheesy incorporation of Eagles titles - I was cringing as I read it).

A couple other responses:

http://brainwagon.org/2011/08/26/don-henley-on-the-protect-ip-act/

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/95333/a-response-to-don-henley-on-the-protect-ip-act/

[EaglesKiwi]

Thanks for the links, Nancy. I found this particularly interesting in the last link:

"What if only one page contains infringing material and the rest is perfectly legal?"

I wonder if this means that if somebody makes a comment on an article and posts a link in their comment, that this would be infringing material?

New Zealand has just introduced new laws (effective today!) around this area. It's been controversial, to say the least.

[sodascouts]

Thanks for the links, Nancy. I found this particularly interesting in the last link:

"What if only one page contains infringing material and the rest is perfectly legal?"

I wonder if this means that if somebody makes a comment on an article and posts a link in their comment, that this would be infringing material?


I could easily see this type of thing happening. Already this kind of "scorched earth" policy can be seen on sites such as YouTube, where user accounts with many harmless, perfectly legal videos are obliterated if they put up more than two "infringing" videos. Plus, since the policy is "guilty until proven innocent", someone could make a false complaint about a video infriging and YouTube will take it down, no questions asked. It assumes the complaint is valid and does not investigate -too much trouble. If the complaint was false, you're the one who has to prove it. In other words, anytime you are suspected of infringement, you have to prove your innocence - they don't have to prove your guilt unless you appeal. That's not how American justice is supposed to work.

The Righthaven controversy of last year (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/25/r-j-files-copyright-suit-against-source-story-40-t/) also speaks to this possibility... only instead of a targeted site being forced to pay a fine to a private entity and then continuing on, the site would be eradicated from search engines and essentially have access to it cut off unless it took circumventing actions. I take no comfort in the fact that this bill is addressed towards foreign sites. The precedent it sets would be easily applicable to domestic, non-commercial ones in the future. Plus, the language includes domestic sites in those it would obliterate from search engines if those sites "enable" the foreign sites in some way such as linking to them.

The dangers of blowing away site access due to the posting of links by third parties is especially true if the DMCA "Safe Harbor" legislation were to be gutted, as Henley wants it to be (DMCA "Safe Harbor" protects a site from being held liable for infringing uploads by its users - see Henley's thoughts on it here (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-airs-conservative-views-on-copyright-law-20100825)). However, the DMCA aspect is a separate issue so I'll refrain from going off on that tangent any further.

It's a thorny issue. While few condone illegal behavior and Henley's frustration is understandable, this attempt at a solution seems at best ineffective and at worst the first step down the slippery slope of internet censorship.

My reaction to the PROTECT IP act is similar to my reaction to the PATRIOT act. Both acts address real problems, both have good intentions, but overall both provide ineffective solutions that set dangerous precedents for government intrusiveness. Henley's language about those who object to the PROTECT IP act being aligned with criminals is also very reminiscent of the rhetoric used to push through the PATRIOT act. That kind of language seems designed to intimidate people into keeping silent if they object, and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, frankly. I just trust that such was not Henley's intent and that, as a reasonable fair-minded man, he would welcome intelligent debate.

I respect Henley's intellect tremendously and I understand his desire to find solutions to industry problems, but I feel he is backing the wrong horse here.

[EaglesKiwi]

Hmm, I see what you mean. The NZ law seems to have been rushed through, and nobody's really happy with it. Copyright holders have to pay the ISP to issue the infringement notices - not great if you're a new artist without a lot of money - and it's then up to the person receiving the infringement notice to prove their innocence. Also, the account holder is liable regardless of who has done the downloading - if you get 3 infringements it's a NZ$15,000 fine - but I'm not sure who actually gets the money - I'm picking it's not the artist!!

[Freypower]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-record-companies-not-going-to-roll-over-on-copyright-issue-20110907

He says at the end his album will probably come out 'in the spring'. After Glenn's, I suppose. I am reluctant to comment about the two albums competing with each other.

[sodascouts]

Interesting article. While admittedly I don't know all the ins and outs of the issue, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that the artists should own their own masters. What he says about the labels essentially screwing people over for decades is one of the reasons I can't muster up much sympathy when the labels cry about how they don't get as much revenue as they used to. Maybe it's simply a natural adjustment - they used to get too much.

I think it's commendable that he mentions he has "four children" instead of the typical "my wife and I have three children" bit - although it is a bit mind-blowing to think Don Henley has a daughter older than I am. While it's not my business how he intends to divide his estate, I have to admit, I admire that he takes responsibility for his first child and intends to provide for her despite the fact she was born outside of marriage. Too many guys turns their backs on their kids in those circumstances.

[EaglesKiwi]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-record-companies-not-going-to-roll-over-on-copyright-issue-20110907

He says at the end his album will probably come out 'in the spring'. After Glenn's, I suppose. I am reluctant to comment about the two albums competing with each other.
I don't think they will be competing with each other. I think people who are fans of the Eagles would be willing to buy both - heck, given the amount we shell out on tickets, we're used to investing in our passion! :hilarious:

[EaglesKiwi]

Interesting article. While admittedly I don't know all the ins and outs of the issue, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that the artists should own their own masters. What he says about the labels essentially screwing people over for decades is one of the reasons I can't muster up much sympathy when the labels cry about how they don't get as much revenue as they used to. Maybe it's simply a natural adjustment - they used to get too much.
He has a valid point about them being independent contractors. The law in NZ has been pretty thoroughly tested on employee vs contractor in various industries - is it as clear cut in the US?

I'd also be interested to see how much artists make/have made in the past from actual record sales vs touring, merchandise, and other endorsement type activity... and how much the artists get vs the record labels. Is that sort of info published anywhere?


I think it's commendable that he mentions he has "four children" instead of the typical "my wife and I have three children" bit - although it is a bit mind-blowing to think Don Henley has a daughter older than I am. While it's not my business how he intends to divide his estate, I have to admit, I admire that he takes responsibility for his first child and intends to provide for her despite the fact she was born outside of marriage. Too many guys turns their backs on their kids in those circumstances.
Totally agree.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I don't think they will be competing with each other. I think people who are fans of the Eagles would be willing to buy both - heck, given the amount we shell out on tickets, we're used to investing in our passion! :hilarious:
I agree with this, EK - I don't view this as a competition. As was mentioned in another thread, Glenn chooses to keep a much lower public profile than Don, so it would not be at all surprising to me if Don's album is better promoted.

[sodascouts]

He has a valid point about them being independent contractors. The law in NZ has been pretty thoroughly tested on employee vs contractor in various industries - is it as clear cut in the US?

I'd also be interested to see how much artists make/have made in the past from actual record sales vs touring, merchandise, and other endorsement type activity... and how much the artists get vs the record labels. Is that sort of info published anywhere?


Good questions that I don't have the answers to. I once tried to look up those figures regarding revenue stream percentiles for a question LTL had posted a while back, and they're surprisingly hard to find in any specifics - just lots of vague "Most of the money is made by touring" type statements. I do remember an interesting quote from Glenn - he said their iTunes royalties added up to the equivalent of the amount of money the Eagles made in "39 minutes on stage in Kansas City."

[EaglesKiwi]

Good questions that I don't have the answers to. I once tried to look up those figures regarding revenue stream percentiles for a question LTL had posted a while back, and they're surprisingly hard to find in any specifics - just lots of vague "Most of the money is made by touring" type statements. I do remember an interesting quote from Glenn - he said their iTunes royalties added up to the equivalent of the amount of money the Eagles made in "39 minutes on stage in Kansas City."
Somehow that doesn't surprise me. I think I've heard Don say something about the band only getting 10 cents per download.

Sounds like most of the money is still going to the labels...

[Koala]

Beat It: The Top 10 Singing Drummers

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/singing-drummers-0916-2011/

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for posting that Koala. Although, I'm not a fan of these type lists, this one isn't too bad. Of course, I think they got the #1 and #2 spots reversed. I do think David Grohl is very talented - but not more than the talented Mr. Henley! :nope:

[Freypower]

If people like the Rare Earth & Husker Du drummers are included, then where is Roger Taylor from Queen? :-x

[sodascouts]

Well, it depends on how much weight you give drumming vs. vocals. I think Don Henley is a much better singer than Grohl, but Grohl is a much better drummer. Check out his work with Nirvana before most of us even knew he could sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqktrGnryOM&feature=player_embedded

When has Don ever thrown himself into his drumming like that?

On the other hand, Grohl's voice has a gritty intensity that works well within his genre, but doesn't have the emotional range of Don's. When Grohl tries to do ballads and slower numbers, his voice loses its power IMHO. Don can sing anything and make it his own.


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ)

[Scarlet Sun]

How often does Dave Grohl sing lead and drum at the same time?

[sodascouts]

He sang backing vocals while drumming on occasion, but never lead as far as I know. I don't believe he ever did "Marigold" live with Nirvana, and that was his only lead vocal for them.

[TimothyBFan]

If people like the Rare Earth & Husker Du drummers are included, then where is Roger Taylor from Queen? :-x

AMEN my sister!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdDNFJpil50

And I agree with Soda---David did NOT sing lead while drumming with Nirvana. That's messed up! And Levon Helm at #10? A lot of people would disagree with that!!! Not a great list!

[sodascouts]

One might argue that comparing Grohl's drumming style with Henley's is not really fair in the sense that Henley has to conserve his energy to sing lead. That's a valid point when it comes to the way they drum in concert.

However, if you turn to the studio recordings where it's not necessary to sing and drum at the same time, you'll hear the same marked difference in style. Of course, you'll have to look at 70s Eagles recordings for this, because Henley doesn't drum on his own solo albums (!) and I have a feeling he didn't drum much, if at all, on the Long Road Out of Eden album (hence the lack of attribution on the liner notes). Anyone disagree?

[Freypower]

In the other thread I just said that I was frustrated because of the lack of information about who plays drums on LROOE. I wish I could hazard a guess. He must do some of it because he's credited... surely. I have always thought maybe Business As Usual & Frail Grasp were him playing drums. But I have no evidence.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Sounds like the Eagles will be busy next year. Good news for us!

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110929/A_ENTERTAIN/109290308&cid=sitesearch

(To give credit, L&M posted a mobile version on Facebook that prompted me to search for this).

[Henley Honey]

Great find !!

Very informative, especially:

Henley said: "A 40th Anniversary burst of activity is due in 2012."

Additionally: "We've got several projects in the works, including a record, a docmentary, more touring and, in a couple of years a theatrical production based on our musical catalog."

I'm loving the sound of that!! :thumbsup:

[Freypower]

I wonder what he means by 'a record'.

[Henley Honey]

I'm thinking -- rather than a whole new album of new material which we would all love but I don't see happening -- they'll release a
"Recorded Live" album of the last tour. He didn't say a new album. He said a record. That to me intimates no new material. Just MHO.

If not a new album, the "live" record seems to be their only other option. I doubt they could release another greatest hits cd. What would they name it? The very, very, very, very Best of the Eagles? Doubtful.

[Tori]

I literally jumped out of my chair when it said "more touring". YES! :thumbsup:

[EaglesKiwi]

I literally jumped out of my chair when it said "more touring". YES! :thumbsup:
Me too!! :partytime:

I'm hoping it's the start of another long, worldwide tour (maybe over several years so they get decent breaks too).

[TimothyBFan]

I'm not as excited about the touring bit as I am the new record and dvd bit!! How freaking exciting is all of this?!?!?

[sodascouts]

Maybe they've decided to go through with Glenn's idea about recording covers of songs done by their musical inspirations. We could hear the Eagles do "On the Way Home."

[Henley Honey]

I literally jumped out of my chair when it said "more touring". YES! :thumbsup:


Me Three!! I'm sure Wisconsin will be on the tour list. :thumbsup:

[Maleah]

Obviously everyone can see this already, but I moved the "Back To Basics" posts into the "Don In The Press" thread since it is an interview. Looks like it worked! Carry on! :thumbsup:

[Koala]

Houston Audubon Society honors Don Henley, Caddo Lake Institute


http://www.chron.com/life/society/article/Houston-Audubon-Society-honors-Don-Henley-Caddo-2207731.php

[sodascouts]

Don attends the dedication of a church in honor of his friend journalist John Gordon (small photo included of Don joining others in prayer):

http://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/news/building-a-legacy-church-friends-dedicate-media-center-in-honor/article_10f5d49e-8d83-5254-ad53-ca41167b4a9d.html

[Troubadour]

Awww. Thanks for finding that, Nancy.

[sodascouts]

I was looking through some Google alerts (which I sadly don't check as often as I should) and found this:

Don Henley Has No Patience For Your 'Gotcha' Questions, Lamestream Rock Critics (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-has-no-patience-for-your-gotcha-questions-lamestream-rock-critics/)
It's old news, and we discussed it when it first occurred, but the way Don pwned that interviewer still makes me laugh!

[Henley Honey]

I totally understand why Mr. Henley loses his patience. Picture yourself sitting a hotel room on a press junket. In a five-hour period you are repeatedly asked inane, personal and annoying questions by dozens of "journalists".
Some have preconceived or negative ideas about you and your art. Some have their own agendas. Some have no clue. How many torturous hours and ridiculous questions would I get through before losing it? Not many. Is it part of the territory? I guess. Does it make it any easier to handle? Nope. I'm just glad that he manages to effectively skewer this "journalist" with a sharp tongue. Maybe it'll be incentive for future interviewers to keep their questions thoughtful and relevant rather than inane. JMHO.

[sodascouts]

I agree, HH. In this case, the interviewer was clearly trying to embarrass Don by calling him out about wine not being a spirit. "Do you regret that lyric?" the guy asked him. How is Don supposed to react to a question like that? "Gee whiz, I never thought of that! My bad! Thanks for pointing it out and giving me the opportunity to apologize for making this mortifying mistake." I guess he could've laughed it off, but he couldn't resist giving that smarta$$ a snarky set-down and I don't blame him. In fact, I find it highly amusing.

ETA: That article only contains an edited version of the quote. Here is Don's full response:
Don: Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention -- and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.

Don = 1; Lame Interviewer = 0

[Glennhoney]

..haha...WELL DONE DON!:thumbsup:

[sodascouts]

Cute Don mention on former backup singer Jana Anderson's Facebook:

"In honor of Groundhog Day, I have a slightly funny Groundhog Day story. It was several years ago, I was on tour as a backup singer with Don Henley. We were all on the commerical flight, including Don. We pulled away from the New York airport gate. Because of weather, we were unable to take off...for FIVE AND A HALF HOURS!!! They couldn't take out the carts and serve us any food or drinks because we were in a line to take off...FOR FIVE AND A HALF HOURS!!! Guess what the free inflight movie was? Yep, GROUNDHOG DAY with Bill Murray. We watched Groundhog Day TWO TIMES IN A ROW BEFORE EVEN TAKING OFF. Then they played it a third time while we flew. Ironic enough? :) "

[Brooke]

Too funny! :lol:

I'm sure that was pretty terrible, but being stuck on an airplane with Don wouldn't be so bad! :drool:

ETA: IF he was in a good mood! :wink:

[EaglesKiwi]

How deliciously funny is playing that movie 3 times?

I have to admit, if I didn't have any water or food with me I would have been losing the plot after 5 hours... although it might be enough time to screw up my courage to say hello to Don... nah, I'd just think I was gonna annoy him and would sit back in the cheap sits dreaming and kicking myself.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I dunno - I've gotta think that if I were stuck on an airplane with Don for 5 hours, that would give me plenty time to muster up enough courage to speak to him! :thumbsup:

[Koala]

Don Henley to be 2012 MAC Gala Guest Speaker

http://meadeactivitycenter.org/2012/02/mac-matters-gala-2012-to-feature-don-henley/

[Brooke]

Interesting! Thanks Koala!

[EaglesKiwi]

Interesting! Thanks Koala!
I wonder why/how they got Don? I know they've all done a lot for various charities over the years (in addition to the ones they have established themselves e.g. Caddo Lake Inst/Walden Woods), but do the guys get approached for a lot of this sort of thing, how do they pick what they will support?

[sodascouts]

I wonder why/how they got Don? I know they've all done a lot for various charities over the years (in addition to the ones they have established themselves e.g. Caddo Lake Inst/Walden Woods), but do the guys get approached for a lot of this sort of thing, how do they pick what they will support?

Here's what MAC is, according to their website:
"The Meade Activity Center project was initiated by a group of local citizens with the goal of constructing a state-of-the-art fitness facility that will provide programming and activities to improve overall wellness in the area. With the recent national focus on rising health care costs and diseases caused by obesity and smoking, this volunteer-based organization is taking an innovative approach to improve the quality of life for a community that previously had limited access to fitness opportunities."
I wonder if MAC is actually non-profit? Their "vision" and "fundraising" seems to imply that they are, as well as the statement that it is "volunteer-based." Everyone here has assumed they are - but where does it say that? If you look at their site, a membership to this "state of the art fitness facility" costs $40 a month and if you want to use the golf course, it costs $80 a month. Financial aid is available so presumably they give discounts to poor people, but overall MAC sure doesn't sound like a charity to me. Just to be sure, I asked them straight out. I'll let you know their reply.

At any rate, I doubt Don would accept money for himself, but it is probably known to many Directors of Fundraisers that the fastest way to Don's heart is through Walden Woods. Judging from some of his past activities, he's not too discriminating with regard to where the money for the donation comes from, so he is unlikely to turn you down if you can contribute a substantive amount. That makes him a prime candidate to approach for such things, be they non-profit or for-profit.

It would be interesting to see what Don's speech will cover - the importance of exercising?

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It would be interesting to see what Don's speech will cover - the importance of exercising?

I hope so, these guys have another 40 years to go.

[EaglesKiwi]

Here's hoping they're still performing for many more years (I'm not sure about 40 more years, though!).

Hmm, he could do a speech on people taking individual and collective responsibility for their local communities - environment, recreation and other facilities, wellbeing etc. He could tie it into what is being achieved by the Caddo Lake Institute...?

[sodascouts]

As of today, I have gotten no reply from MAC to my question about whether or not this is a non-profit (a question which I not only emailed them but asked them on their facebook - a facebook they've posted on since then). To me, that silence says it all.

Seems like they are actively trying to mislead people into thinking they are a charity - notice how they bold the words "non-profit" in the write up, even though that is describing Don's work, not theirs.

When I ask them point-blank if it is a non-profit... a simple yes or no question... they don't answer. Why not?

There's only one reason that I can see: an honest answer ("yes, we're for profit") will destroy the illusion they're trying to create with all their implications and noble-sounding statements about wanting to help the community. The lawyers tell them not to outright lie, so they just don't answer.

This is a business, and the community members must pay a pretty penny for their "access to fitness opportunities." The website vaguely mentions there is a possibility for "financial aid" but gives no specifics. Certainly that is not what their main purpose is. Their main purpose is to make money.

Now, there's nothing wrong with that. Who knows - perhaps a portion of their profits go back to the community in some way (although they never explicitly say so). I have no problem with a fitness center holding a gala to encourage investment in their enterprise. I do have a problem with the way they are trying to strongly imply they are a non-profit (without outright saying it) when they are actually a for-profit business.

Maybe Don should give a talk about corporate ethics.

However, EaglesKiwi, I think your guess is far more likely!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Technically, unless they have certain IRS-sanctioned distinctions, they are not allowed to bill themselves as non-profit, even if their goal isn't to make money. There's a fitness facility here in town that charges people money, depending on where they live (town, county, or out-of-county) and they also get money from the local governments. They are not non-profit, yet they operate in the red each year and in order not to take more money from local governments, they have fundraisers a few times a year. Not sure it's the same thing.

[sodascouts]

If that's the case, more power to them... but why not just say so when asked directly?

[EaglesKiwi]

If that's the case, more power to them... but why not just say so when asked directly?
Maybe because it's harder to explain? (Although VA did a fantastic job!). And they wouldn't necessarily want to say that they operate in the red each year!

Soda - I would almost be more surprised if Don didn't find a way to work "corporate ethics" into his speech, even if he goes with my themes!

[Victim of Love]

Found this item online today:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/don-henleys-caddo-lake-rothstein_n_1273143.html

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It's a shame that such an institute feels obligated to give the money back, but I can see why they do. I promise, if I win Friday's Mega Millions lottery, I'll donate the money back.

[sodascouts]

Rothstein claims a friendship with Don, and Don did dedicate a song to him and his wife on their anniversary a while back. However, the Caddo Institute itself seems to not even be aware of him at all, according to that article - the Caddo Institute's president Lowerre says "We just thought he was an attorney." Rothstein probably exaggerated the personal connection.

While I understand that this money is "blood money" tainted by the fact that Rothstein ripped off so many people, I still wonder why it should be given back. Given back to whom - Rothstein - the guy who stole it?! I'd much rather this money, though gained wrongfully, could at least be used here in a positive way.

Now, if the money was being given back to the people Rothstein ripped off, that would be another matter. Perhaps that's what's going on?

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Now, if the money was being given back to the people Rothstein ripped off, that would be another matter. Perhaps that's what's going on?

If the article said that it was, I missed it. But his company is probably being sued, or something similar and needs to raise the funds and after the lawyers, I'd think it would go to those who were ripped off.

[sodascouts]

Yes, that's right. I found another article (http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/blog/picking_up_the_pieces/2012/02/don-henley-institute-pays-50000-to.html) that explains this a little better. This is my understanding of the situation: The Caddo Institute, along with several other charities that received donations from Rothstein, has had to come to an agreement with the firm's bankruptcy lawyers in order to return a portion of the funds, thus enabling the firm to pay debts including settlements to the victims.

In that case, it is more than appropriate than the funds be given back.

[Topkat]

Here's another article about the doctorate degree the Eagles will be receiving;
Do we now have to call him Dr. Henley?

http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=800886

[zeldabjr]

Here's another article about the doctorate degree the Eagles will be receiving;
Do we now have to call him Dr. Henley?

http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=800886

yeah Dr.Henley...Dr.Schmit...Dr.Walsh...and Dr. Frey:thumbsup:

[Henley Honey]

In the words of Robert Palmer . . .

Doctor, Doctor, give me the news, I've got a bad case of loving you. http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Love%20Animated%20Emoticons/in%20love%20heart.gif

[zeldabjr]

In the words of Robert Palmer . . .

Doctor, Doctor, give me the news, I've got a bad case of loving you. http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Love%20Animated%20Emoticons/in%20love%20heart.gif

:hilarious:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

In the words of Robert Palmer . . .

Doctor, Doctor, give me the news, I've got a bad case of loving you. http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Love%20Animated%20Emoticons/in%20love%20heart.gif

So true!!!!!!!!!

[Tori]

In the words of Robert Palmer . . .

Doctor, Doctor, give me the news, I've got a bad case of loving you. http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/animated%20emoticons/Love%20Animated%20Emoticons/in%20love%20heart.gif

Agreed... so true! :heart: