Don in the Press/Blogs/etc.

[lizzyplays]

I'm not a huge Henley fan, but I actually might agree with him on a few things such as if someone is profiting from music that he owns. That being said, I do find him somewhat egotistical and 'fuddy duddy' (for lack of a better term).

But do you know what I find even more appalling? When adults resort to sending horrible and nasty PM's to people because they don't agree with another's views or stances.

Lame.

[sodascouts]

If someone sends you a PM that is offensive or is harassing you, please forward it to me so I can deal with it. That's unacceptable.

However, if someone sends you a message that simply pisses you off, please don't bring up such PM feuds with other members in the public threads on the board. They're called "private messages" for a reason. Reply privately or, if it's harassment, report it to me so I can put a stop to it.

[lizzyplays]

It wasn't mine to report, but was shown to me so I have NO rights to 'deal with it'.

Sounds like private, nasty messages are encouraged? How about people just NOT send private, nasty messages and instead, discuss and debate topics like civilized adults. I would like to think that I could voice my opinions, no matter how differing, and not be subjected to PM's from others, calling me names and berating my choices. What kind of person does that?

[Houston Debutante]

calling me names and berating my choices. What kind of person does that?


I do find him somewhat egotistical and 'fuddy duddy'

I think you answered your own question. :lol:

And since you don't seem to be able to understand what sodascouts is saying about not talking about PRIVATE messages publicly, here's an explanation from another site http://voices.yahoo.com/proper-internet-forum-message-board-etiquette-222402.html

In case you don't want to click on the link, I'll write it out here, the site says
'Take Personal Issues Off the Forums. Internet forums and message boards are for public discussions which bear relevance to more than a few people. If you have a personal issue with someone else, take it off the forums. If the message board offers a private message function, use it. If not, exchange e-mail addresses and continue the discussion in private.'


Sounds like private, nasty messages are encouraged?

Hey, I think you may be on to something here, who would have guessed sodascouts wants all her members to fight each other and send nasty PMs to each other, her secret agenda is revealed. Think of all the ways she could benefit from doing that, your accusation makes perfect sense. You're BUSTED sodascouts!

[lizzyplays]

Woof.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

And moving right along to get back on topic - VA, ITA with this post. You are right on here, IMHO ...


I wish I took the time and effort to be as passionate about the things I believe in as Don is. I agree with him being OTT sometimes, and I don't always agree with how he goes about it, but I do appreciate his stance. I don't think it's egotistical to stand up for what you believe in, and I don't think it's an ego problem to want others to respect your property. I do disagree with his statements to the effect that the big companies like Google have too much lobbying interests, as others have said, no one has ever been able to top the entertainment industry. Don's problem is that some in his own industry embrace YouTube, others have just given in instead of fighting it. The ones with the real money in the business (not the artists) merely see it as another way to make money for themselves.

At any rate, I totally agree with the 'whiny, entitled' attitude assesment that someone mentioned, of the ones who used the music. Regardless of how you feel about the issue, the sense that people are entitled to something just because they want it and technology makes it possible is not doing anyone any good. I guess when you raise generations of children who think everyone gets a trophy instead of just those who actually win, this is the mentality you're left with. That attitude is in the current workforce, hence the horrible last two days I've had, but that's a topic for a different thread.

[sodascouts]

Don's passion is certainly commendable when he uses it to help the environment or to champion charities. I of course love it when he infuses his music with passion; that's one reason why I'm such a big fan. As long as that passion is channeled constructively, all is well.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

And moving right along to get back on topic - VA, ITA with this post. You are right on here, IMHO ...

Thanks, Dreamer! I know that I for one would be bitterly disappointed in Don if he compromised on what's right for the sake of appearing 'cool' to his fans. As I said before, his execution may not always be what we'd like it to be, but I give him a lot of credit for his intent. The right road is seldom the easy road. I've actually been thinking about this quite a bit lately...not this issue per se, but the work and strength it sometimes takes to stand up for what's right, but I guess the details of that belong in the 'life' thread. I will say it's been a rough week.

[sodascouts]

Yes, I also admire Don when he does what's right.

[Houston Debutante]

And moving right along to get back on topic - VA, ITA with this post. You are right on here, IMHO ...

ITA with her post too. I'd quote it again but I don't know how to double quote. :(

[Tiffanny Twisted]

wow lose internet for a long time and you miss a lot here:-?

[Thirsty&Hot]

clips of Don on Just Shoot Me:

https://cloud.real.com/s/w25UiP

https://cloud.real.com/s/aK9diP

https://cloud.real.com/s/cdBTiP

[ktdids]

Thanks T&H!
So Nina Van Horn was shacking up with Joe, and single handedly broke up the Eagles! That explains all the stress and arguing going on! Lol!

[Thirsty&Hot]

haha yeah I had never seen that before...it's pretty funny!

[ktdids]

Anyone have Don's appearance on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher? I was looking at Don's IMDB page and was surprised that he was on that show. I'd love to see it if someone had it saved somewhere!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Those Just Shoot Me clips crack me up everytime.

And kt - I don't remember ever seeing Don's appearance on Politically Incorrect, but, to be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if he did appear on the show. I'll bet between Bill Maher and Don that the sarcasm was a thing of beauty. :thumbsup:

[ktdids]

Those Just Shoot Me clips crack me up everytime.

And kt - I don't remember ever seeing Don's appearance on Politically Incorrect, but, to be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if he did appear on the show. I'll bet between Bill Maher and Don that the sarcasm was a thing of beauty. :thumbsup:

That's what makes me want to see it if it exists! Just how far would Don let his composure slip in that kind of setting, with Bill Maher egging the situation on!

[Houston Debutante]

Oh I'd love to see that, I had no idea he was ever on there. But I didn't know he was on Just Shoot Me either.

[lizzyplays]

clips of Don on Just Shoot Me:

https://cloud.real.com/s/w25UiP

https://cloud.real.com/s/aK9diP

https://cloud.real.com/s/cdBTiP

This is a totally unrelated tidbit to Henley, but, when I lived in Los Angeles one of my roommate's was Wendie Malick's (Nina Van Horn) sister-in-law. She actually was never married to Wendie's brother but they had a child together who lived with us on the weekends and who absolutely adored me and vice-versa. I have tons of pics of the niece in my FB photo albums. I met Wendie a couple of times, once at her home because she threw her niece a birthday party and on another time when she got us tickets for the taping of her new show "Hot In Cleveland". I got to meet Betty White, Valerie Bertinelli and Jane Leeves when we went. The brother, Scott, asked me out on a date but considering that I was living with his ex-girlfriend, that felt kind of weird so I declined. He was actually really nice and my roommate was a total nutjob!! I did go out with him for a bottle of wine the last night I was in town before moving back to NC and I've kept up with him a little bit, since. He invited me to some skiing trip in NY a couple of years ago but that was when I first was diagnosed with colitis. Perhaps I should seek him out again.... :hmm:

Ok, back to your regular Henley programming!

Did anyone ever find the Maher clips with Don? That's something I would definitely be interested in seeing!

[Thirsty&Hot]

can't find Politically Incorrect...

found this silly thing during my search though...I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion...even if it's wrong :nahnah:
http://youtu.be/eEet3RwQnaY

[Victim of Love]

Don't know of anywhere to view episodes of Politically Incorrect online and the one in question was among the first: Episode #6. Untitled (http://tv.msn.com/tv/episode/politically-incorrect-with-bill-maher/untitled.199/) -Don Henley; Malcolm McDowell; Lynn Snowden; John Ehrlichman. Original Air Date 01-13-1997.

Henley and Maher together would have been a lively discussion but can you imagine having John Ehrlichman thrown into the mix!?! Now THAT would have been a really interesting view!

FOOTNOTE: While there are a multitude of PI episodes/clips available online, the Henley/Ehrlichman episode is conspicuously absent. Makes you wonder what, if anything, Don has had to do with the 'omission'.

[ktdids]

Don didn't really talk much during the show, I've been told, so probably not Don's fault the show is in limbo land.

[Thirsty&Hot]

well I guess this is being asked at Eagles Fastlane as well
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/songbirdreleased/Eagles%20etc/996CB365-B668-4F55-AB02-74550CFB3D45_zpszzqjonsp.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/songbirdreleased/media/Eagles%20etc/996CB365-B668-4F55-AB02-74550CFB3D45_zpszzqjonsp.png.html)

from the clip doesn't sound like Don got a chance to clearly get a word in haha

https://cloud.real.com/s/VpMCjP

[Houston Debutante]

That's better than nothing, thanks. At least he looks good. :lol:

[Ive always been a dreamer]

AMEN, HD!

[sodascouts]

I found an article about the woman who, back in 1984, played the teenage girl in the "Boys of Summer" video. She didn't get to work with Don directly, but I still found it interesting.

http://noblemania.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-girl-in-video-boys-of-summer-1984.html

[Thirsty&Hot]

I found an article about the woman who, back in 1984, played the teenage girl in the "Boys of Summer" video. She didn't get to work with Don directly, but I still found it interesting.

http://noblemania.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-girl-in-video-boys-of-summer-1984.html

interesting read!

[Houston Baby]

I saw a little article in a Texas Journeys magazine that the annual Linden Wildflower Trails of Texas Festival will be April 26th on the courthouse square at Linden. Don is listed as one of the financial and in-kind supporters. You can check out the website at http://www.lindenwildflowertrails.net/

I think it is so wonderful that he still supports his hometown. So sweet and generous!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

ITA, HB.

And that was fun reading about the girl in the BOS video albeit it would've been more interesting if she had some stories of Don to share! :thumbsup:

[sodascouts]

He's been there in the past, HB. I wonder if he attends regularly?

[Houston Baby]

Hmmm I don't know Soda. I didn't know if he attends or just supports them financially. Either way I might have to consider a road trip!

[MaryCalifornia]

I found an article about the woman who, back in 1984, played the teenage girl in the "Boys of Summer" video. She didn't get to work with Don directly, but I still found it interesting.

http://noblemania.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-girl-in-video-boys-of-summer-1984.html

This is very cool, I love stuff like this. I went a little deeper into his blog, and he says this:

Three fun facts you get right now:
Two “Huey girls” (Janet Cross and Signy Coleman) dated Don Henley.

It's here:
http://noblemania.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-girl-in-video-original-interviews.html

[Houston Debutante]

Hmmm I don't know Soda. I didn't know if he attends or just supports them financially. Either way I might have to consider a road trip!

I'd go if we knew he would be there. How can we find out??

[Elizasong]

Billy Joel was just interviewed by Howard Stern. He revealed something very interesting. Does anyone have thoughts on this quote??

He was going to form a soft-rock supergroup with Sting and Don Henley: Joel couldn’t think of “another guitar player, I don’t remember who it was” who would join the band. But, he left open the possibility for a new group because he explains, “I liked being in a band. Someday we might put together a silly super group.”

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Now THAT would be very interesting!!!

[ktdids]

Billy Joel was just interviewed by Howard Stern. He revealed something very interesting. Does anyone have thoughts on this quote??

He was going to form a soft-rock supergroup with Sting and Don Henley: Joel couldn’t think of “another guitar player, I don’t remember who it was” who would join the band. But, he left open the possibility for a new group because he explains, “I liked being in a band. Someday we might put together a silly super group.”

What would the setlist possibly look like?!

[Houston Baby]

I would definitely put that band on my concert list!

[Brooke]

That's interesting! I just can't imagine them together in a band, but it would be awesome! Who would sing lead? I guess they could all have a chance at it!

[sodascouts]

Billy Joel was just interviewed by Howard Stern. He revealed something very interesting. Does anyone have thoughts on this quote??

He was going to form a soft-rock supergroup with Sting and Don Henley: Joel couldn’t think of “another guitar player, I don’t remember who it was” who would join the band. But, he left open the possibility for a new group because he explains, “I liked being in a band. Someday we might put together a silly super group.”

Was this like in the 80s or something?

It would be cool for a one-off or a brief tour, but an actual band? I don't know. I know Sting and Don are really tight, though, so I can see why they were tossing the idea around.

[Elizasong]

I didn't hear the actual interview but I suspect that idea was from a while back. Would be very interesting!

[Houston Debutante]

Don, Sting and Billy Joel are all great singers but I think a supergroup with all of them might not have worked. It's like I love cream of mushroom soup, I love ice cream, and I love sour cream, but I wouldn't love them all at the same time.

[Prettymaid]

I've never thought about it before, but Don and Sting have similar 'raspy' singing voices that would probably compliment each other nicely.

[sodascouts]

Does anybody else remember back in the 90s when Sting, Rod Stewart, and Bryan Adams all got together to sing "All for Love" for the Three Musketeers soundtrack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofA3URC1wyk

I think that's pretty much the kind of thing we would've gotten with a Don/Sting/Billy Joel supergroup.

[shunlvswx]

I remember that video. I loved that song.

[Brooke]

Good comparison, Soda. I loved that movie, but didn't remember the song. Great song!

[UndertheWire]

Sting and Don Henley did a benefit for the Walden Woods project in 1991, so maybe the idea came up then. I can't see any mention in the review of them singing together, though.

[shunlvswx]

There's a picture online somewhere where Don shared a stage with Sting, Elton John, Tony Bennett, James Taylor and another guy I can't remember his name. Sting had a benefit show. It was cute picture. I need to find it.

[Witchy Woman]

There's a picture online somewhere where Don shared a stage with Sting, Elton John, Tony Bennett, James Taylor and another guy I can't remember his name. Sting had a benefit show. It was cute picture. I need to find it.

The pic was actually on the page we share admin duties on. Lol.

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/Jack_Bauer24/10247270_839818259366310_5693000749848552467_n.jpg

[Brooke]

Too funny! I can pick out Elton and Tony, but the others are iffy.

[DivineDon]

Too funny! I can pick out Elton and Tony, but the others are iffy.

Don's in the middle, Sting to his right, our left. Don't know the guy on the end (our left). Is James Taylor beside Tony Bennett?

[ktdids]

Wow, cool picture! It looks like mystery guy, Sting, Don , Elton, Tony and then James? Don's holding his mike with the pinky underneath it, which I've seen him do before, so I'm sure that's him in that chorus line!

[MaryCalifornia]

I wonder if that's a woman on the end? So much smaller, and that is not a group of tall guys!

[shunlvswx]

From what I remembered. I forgot the guys name. He's either French or German. Sting, Don, Elton, Tony and that is James Taylor

[tequila girl]

From what I remembered. I forgot the guys name. He's either French or German. Sting, Don, Elton, Tony and that is James Taylor
It's Charles Aznavour (sp?) I too thought it might be a woman until you mentioned French or German then I remembered!
eta. I think I've narrowed it down to '10th Rainforest Foundation Benefit Concert 1999' but can't find any clips so far.....

[shunlvswx]

I thought it was a woman too. I thought it might had been Sheryl Crow.

[sodascouts]

That picture is freaking adorable! I've never seen it before - thanks!

[shunlvswx]

I did also saw a picture on Yahoo of Don and Sting on the stage singing. I will find it in just a minute.

[tequila girl]

That picture is freaking adorable! I've never seen it before - thanks!
I'm sure it was posted somewhere on here a while back Soda - they were doing a tribute to Frank Sinatra and the few pieces i've managed to find about it say Don was "very stiff & not suited to the role"!

[sodascouts]

Oh! Man, my wretched memory causes me to embarrass myself yet again! :blush:

[tequila girl]

:hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:

[Houston Debutante]

The pic was actually on the page we share admin duties on. Lol.

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/Jack_Bauer24/10247270_839818259366310_5693000749848552467_n.jpg

Don is so cute, just wish you could see his face better, or even better wish I had been there to see him myself.

[sodascouts]

Don grants a couple new interviews...

The Eagles to Tour Australia, but Fans Have to Stay in Their Seats and Put Away Their Phones (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-fans-have-to-stay-in-their-seats-and-put-away-their-phones/story-e6frfn29-1226926087860) - Don once again chastising wayward fans :( but says nice things about Bernie :)

Don Henley on the Eagles' Return to New Zealand (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11259648) - this one is much more interesting and pleasant! Don talks about the documentary and snarks a bit on Robert Plant. ;) He's also still saying the solo album is coming out in the fall...

[UndertheWire]

I've been listening to GnR's former manager describe how he renegotiated their contract with Geffen records in 1991. They were only about half-way through their current contract but he thought he could get a better deal. One tactic was to start planning a tour which would delay completion of the next album (sound familiar?) and that got him the meeting with Geffen where Geffen asked what he wanted in the contract.

"I want the best contract you've ever given to an artist."
"You can't have it. You will never have it."
"Why not?"
"Because Henley already has it and will always have it. He has a favored nation clause."

Some of the rest is interesting for the portrait it paints of a fractured band and the issues with managing them. It's a bit slow, though. Youtube Link

[Brooke]

Don grants a couple new interviews...

The Eagles to Tour Australia, but Fans Have to Stay in Their Seats and Put Away Their Phones (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-fans-have-to-stay-in-their-seats-and-put-away-their-phones/story-e6frfn29-1226926087860) - Don once again chastising wayward fans :( but says nice things about Bernie :)


I guess I can understand a little better now why he wants people to sit. At least he knows they want to stand during the rockers! :lol:

[Brooke]

Don grants a couple new interviews...

Don Henley on the Eagles' Return to New Zealand (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11259648) - this one is much more interesting and pleasant! Don talks about the documentary and snarks a bit on Robert Plant. ;) He's also still saying the solo album is coming out in the fall...

This sounds really interesting!

------------------------------------------------------------------
" I've got a solo album coming out in the fall. It's kind of a Nashville thing. Back to my country roots. It's not this modern country stuff. It's more traditional country. I am referring to it as an album for grown-ups.

You have Alison Krauss involved in it.

She's involved and Miranda Lambert and Vince Gill and Brad Paisley and Merle Haggard. A lot of incredible guest stars. I think it's a really good record."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
These people are incredible! And at least he's still talking about it! It may come out after all! And I just might have to buy it! :thumbsup:

[Freypower]

This is in Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/okkervil-river-responds-to-don-henley-copyright-laws-kill-art-20140604

I am with Don here. Sorry, but if you cover a song & don't get permission to do so, you have violated their copyright, and all the blathering about making it 'new' doesn't change a thing.

[Brooke]

Yup, I'm with Don too.

[tequila girl]

....and me! :thumbsup:

[eaglesfan12]

Somethng dont seem right seeing stadium of 60.000 sitting.
I sat at hampden on the pitch and once people behind me stood up i did to.
That way knew ok. They to be fair stood most concert as wasnt very warm lol.
Had 2 gloomy idiots infront us from germany who sat whole time didnt move.
They would of been better bk at home in germany

u do have to respect others around u.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

We've discussed the copyright thing before, and I think everyone knows I agree with Don on that.

This guy isn't much of a songwriter if he doesn't see the insult in someone taking a person's song and saying, "I like it but let me change this last verse, make it less cheesy." To a guy like Don who is a true songwriter, and takes it seriously, having the audacity to change the song AFTER stealing would be a real slap in the face. Well, OK, not really that. Don is a giant among songwriters, and this guy is little more than an annoying fly buzzing around in comparison.

[sodascouts]

Just listened to the Okkervil River version of "The End of the Innocence" and oh my gosh, it sucks HARD. Poor Don. Leaving his critique at "I wasn't impressed" was actually kind of him.

In addition to sucking, it has some disturbing lyric changes:

"We're beating plowshares into swords but too cowardly to kill our kings" (!!!)

"Lawyers clean up all details since Daddy had to die"

I can understand why Don wouldn't want his name associated with that kind of sentiment...

I won't bother to type out the two craptastic last verses he made up entirely. LAMENESS.

I kind of wish Don hadn't given this guy publicity - perhaps it would have been best to let the song remain buried in obscurity, as this whole thing has actually gotten this guy into Rolling Stone - but I sure as heck don't blame Don for being pissed off.

[EaglesKiwi]

It is horrible to think that somebody might think Don wrote those lyrics. It's a bit more obvious with the new verses, but changing half of a line is disturbing.

[zeldabjr]

I'm sitting here tonight watching the news...and the sports comes on...and the guy starts out by saying..."I don't think this is what Don Henley had in mind when he wrote The Boys of Summer"...and goes on to do a story about our hockey team playing a scrimmage tonight...I thought this was so cool!!! not every night I hear Don's or any of the guy's names on the news!!

[Houston Baby]

I'm sitting here tonight watching the news...and the sports comes on...and the guy starts out by saying..."I don't think this is what Don Henley had in mind when he wrote The Boys of Summer"...and goes on to do a story about our hockey team playing a scrimmage tonight...I thought this was so cool!!! not every night I hear Don's or any of the guy's names on the news!!

:thumbsup:

[shunlvswx]

Ultimate Classic Rock facebook page share this on Don. Guess the artist in this yearbook photo.

(http://ultimateclassicrock.com/can-you-guess-the-artist-in-this-yearbook-photo-164/)
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/can-you-guess-the-artist-in-this-yearbook-photo-164/

[Houston Baby]

Since it was Don's birthday yesterday, Houston's Classic Rock radio station was playing little snippets of interviews with him. A couple that I heard were....

"I was kind of a silent partner on the 1st Eagles album. I didn't have much to do with it but somewhere between the 1st and 2nd albums, Glenn & I became a songwriting team."

"Life was much simpler back then. We would get up & didn't think about much except songwriting and, Don laughs, girls." I love his laugh!! :hilarious:

[shunlvswx]

I saw this link on Facebook and KEarth did a little article on Don on his birthday. They also included Don's Top 5 Solo Hits.

http://kearth101.cbslocal.com/2014/07/22/don-henleys-top-five-solo-hits/

[sodascouts]

Very complimentary - nice article!

[shunlvswx]

Somebody was sharing a picture on facebook of Don in one of his flannel plaid shirt. Someone said he gets his shirts from this place called Rockmount Ranch Wear. So I went to their facebook page and sho nuff he does. They even wished Don a happy birthday and had pictures of Don wearing their shirts.

I don't know how to share Don's part, but scroll down to July 22nd. A nice little article on Don.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rockmount-Ranch-Wear/195374881178

[Houston Debutante]

Thanks for posting all of these shun, I've been looking around Facebook lately myself, some of the Eagles groups are cool, some have too much trash-talking for me. I want to hear about Don, not how much you hate other Facebook groups, other sites, and other fans who you think have done you wrong. Glad we don't have any of that around here.

[sodascouts]

Thanks, but let's keep it that way by not trash talking about those FB groups here either (no offense HD).

[L101]

Apologies if this has been posted before but I only came across it today while doing a Google search on Don - procrastination is a great thing :D

At home with Don Henley (http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/18/garden/at-home-with-don-henley-in-his-mulholland-drive-wilderness.html?src=pm&pagewanted=2) The lucky interviewer gets to meet with Don in his home in Mulholland drive in 1992!!

Its great to see Don so relaxed and I love the sound of his home, it sounds so unrock star like, even down to the books and papers all over the place and who knew he loved Gophers :D
My favorite line from the interview: "The overall effect is cozy and welcoming, not unlike Mr. Henley himself" :cool:

Is this the house that was destroyed in the 1994 earthquake ? Its such a shame if it was....

[sodascouts]

I'm not sure, but I love that article!

[DivineDon]

Oh, thanks Lacken, that article was great! Loved the line '...he was smart, funny and intense..' hmmmm This echoes the blurb at the back of Marc Elliott's To the limit when he refers to the '...cerebral, smoldering Don Henley....':heart::heart::heart:

Definitely my kind of man :)

On another note, I got some recommendations from Amazon (because I'm such a good customer lol) and one was Don Henley, Taking you Home, a CD from 2000. Have any of you got it? I formed the impression that it was a kind of greatest hits CD but maybe I'm wrong. Would appreciate any info on it :thumbsup:

[sodascouts]

Could you link to it? It might be a cd single or a bootleg. I've never heard of it.

[DivineDon]

Hi Soda, here's the link.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Taking-You-Home-Don-Henley/dp/B00004TT9N/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408614710&sr=8-2&keywords=don+henley+taking+you+home

Looked inside as they suggested and could only see three songs! :-?

Taking you home; Dirty Laundry and Miss Ghost but there must be more as it's quite expensive. :shrug:

I'd be interested in what you think.

[sodascouts]

Looks like a CD "single." Record companies experimented with those for a while before abandoning them. I have a few "maxi" singles as they were called. Some had like 6 versions of the same song, some had a few different songs. Looks like this is one of the latter, which means it does indeed have only three songs. It's expensive because it's rare, not because of content. Collectors are weird that way. ;)

[DivineDon]

Thanks, Soda, you're very knowledgeable. Very interesting :thumbsup:

[Houston Baby]

As UTW mentioned on the "Eagles Mentioned in the Press - Retro Edition" thread, Rolling Stone is paying tribute to Charles M Young who passed on August 18th. In this week's edition there is a quote at the end of the tribute....

' "Chuck was a complicated man," says Don Henley, who stayed in touch with him until the end of his life. "He was by turns jovial, arch, enthusiastic and demon-haunted, dark. His work mattered. I hope he knew that." '

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yeah I read where Charles Young passed away. I meant to post it on the board, but I forgot to do it. Anyway, interesting that Don stayed in touch with him.

R.I.P. Mr. Young

[sodascouts]

As UTW mentioned on the "Eagles Mentioned in the Press - Retro Edition" thread, Rolling Stone is paying tribute to Charles M Young who passed on August 18th. In this week's edition there is a quote at the end of the tribute....

' "Chuck was a complicated man," says Don Henley, who stayed in touch with him until the end of his life. "He was by turns jovial, arch, enthusiastic and demon-haunted, dark. His work mattered. I hope he knew that." '

Very interesting that Don stayed in touch with him, especially since they seemed to have somewhat of an adversarial relationship in the seventies. Thanks for posting that. RIP Chuck Young.

[sodascouts]

Found this recent interview while going through old Google alerts:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2014/09/06/eagles-get-back-garden-and-woods/ZXInFGx5ltGMQwyZ3cHCGJ/story.html

Also, I found this piece of "Boys of Summer" interesting:
http://cosmicamericanblog.blogspot.com/2014/08/yeah-well-i-just-saw-don-henley-sticker.html

[Houston Debutante]

Interesting, thanks soda.

[Thirsty&Hot]

Stevie Nicks admits past pregnancy with Don Henley and more about her wild past (http://m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/101437?facebook_20140926)

[Freypower]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-sues-maker-of-henley-t-shirt-over-pun-20141010

They pride themselves on the fact that they have never allowed their names, likenesses or music – individually or as a group – to be used to sell products.


Not counting that Pepsi ad, or that Jack Lalanne fitness ad, huh? (Those featured Glenn, not Don). Those were done during the 'vacation' era but they were product endorsements.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Think I might be with Don on this one. Plus, the Eagles can't support this clothing company because then they'd need to wear their shirts. That can't happen because they make shirts longer so they stay tucked in, and the last thing Glenn needs is longer shirts!

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-duluth-trading-lawsuit/

[sodascouts]

I cringe every time I read about Don initiating yet another lawsuit, and I think the lawyer is grossly overstating the case when he says that "large numbers of consumers [....] will unquestionably believe that Mr. Henley is associated with and/or has endorsed the company and its products" (see complaint here (https://www.scribd.com/doc/242427486/Don-Henley-v-Duluth-Holdings-Don-a-Henley-t-shirts-pdf)). Only the stupid would believe that the Eagles endorse the shirt thanks to the cheesy slogan. He can reasonably assert that SOME will, but large numbers? He has no figures or statistics to back that up, which means it is indeed quite "questionable" a claim, regardless of the lawyer's choice of adverb. This is something I tell my students never to do in argument papers - claim something is "unquestionable" without proof - so I notice this type of thing, lol.

That said, the clothing company is indeed using Henley and the Eagles to sell their product without his consent. They are hoping to profit from his name, and while perhaps they meant no harm, I can see why Don objects in principle. He'll win this case; he's established his own precedent when he sued Dillard's for a similar infraction and won (see info on that here (http://thediscography.org/discoDbDetail.php?req=362)).

However, someone needs to tell Henley's spokesperson that the statement he/she gave to the Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-docket-don-henley-sues-739836) claiming that the Eagles "pride themselves on the fact that they have never allowed their names, likenesses or music – individually or as a group – to be used to sell products" is inaccurate. They can make that claim for Henley, but not for all of the Eagles "individually."

[WalshFan88]

You can't tell me these Marketing guru's didn't know how sensitive Don can be about these things and how lawyer-happy he can be. IMO they had it coming, even though I believe 50+ percent of people wouldn't catch the Eagles reference. So I do believe it is exaggerated, but I find it hard to believe they didn't know how he reacts to these kinds of things. They either didn't care, or didn't know to do their research on him. :hilarious:

[Topkat]

I cringe every time I read about Don initiating yet another lawsuit, and I think the lawyer is grossly overstating the case when he says that "large numbers of consumers [....] will unquestionably believe that Mr. Henley is associated with and/or has endorsed the company and its products" (see complaint here (https://www.scribd.com/doc/242427486/Don-Henley-v-Duluth-Holdings-Don-a-Henley-t-shirts-pdf)). Only the stupid would believe that the Eagles endorse the shirt thanks to the cheesy slogan. He can reasonably assert that SOME will, but large numbers? He has no figures or statistics to back that up, which means it is indeed quite "questionable" a claim, regardless of the lawyer's choice of adverb. This is something I tell my students never to do in argument papers - claim something is "unquestionable" without proof - so I notice this type of thing, lol.

That said, the clothing company is indeed using Henley and the Eagles to sell their product without his consent. They are hoping to profit from his name, and while perhaps they meant no harm, I can see why Don objects in principle. He'll win this case; he's established his own precedent when he sued Dillard's for a similar infraction and won (see info on that here (http://thediscography.org/discoDbDetail.php?req=362)).

However, someone needs to tell Henley's spokesperson that the statement he/she gave to the Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-docket-don-henley-sues-739836) claiming that the Eagles "pride themselves on the fact that they have never allowed their names, likenesses or music – individually or as a group – to be used to sell products" is inaccurate. They can make that claim for Henley, but not for all of the Eagles "individually."

I actually think the word play is rather cleaver, but I also think over 50% of the people wouldn't even get it....Henley can sue whoever he wants, but it's unlikely the company made much money off his name here. Henley is a type of shirt that has been around for ages. If I were him, I would be like, "who cares", but this is Don we're talking about. He will spend as much on the lawsuit as he will make on it, making it not even worth it, but just to prove his point, he will pursue it. He brings even more attention to the company by doing this too.

[DJ]

I cringe every time I read about Don initiating yet another lawsuit, and I think the lawyer is grossly overstating the case when he says that "large numbers of consumers [....] will unquestionably believe that Mr. Henley is associated with and/or has endorsed the company and its products" (see complaint here (https://www.scribd.com/doc/242427486/Don-Henley-v-Duluth-Holdings-Don-a-Henley-t-shirts-pdf)). Only the stupid would believe that the Eagles endorse the shirt thanks to the cheesy slogan. He can reasonably assert that SOME will, but large numbers? He has no figures or statistics to back that up, which means it is indeed quite "questionable" a claim, regardless of the lawyer's choice of adverb. This is something I tell my students never to do in argument papers - claim something is "unquestionable" without proof - so I notice this type of thing, lol.

That said, the clothing company is indeed using Henley and the Eagles to sell their product without his consent. They are hoping to profit from his name, and while perhaps they meant no harm, I can see why Don objects in principle. He'll win this case; he's established his own precedent when he sued Dillard's for a similar infraction and won (see info on that here (http://thediscography.org/discoDbDetail.php?req=362)).

However, someone needs to tell Henley's spokesperson that the statement he/she gave to the Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-docket-don-henley-sues-739836) claiming that the Eagles "pride themselves on the fact that they have never allowed their names, likenesses or music – individually or as a group – to be used to sell products" is inaccurate. They can make that claim for Henley, but not for all of the Eagles "individually."

I agree Soda, The lawyer or whomever cannot speak for all Eagles.

[Houston Debutante]

I actually think the word play is rather cleaver, but I also think over 50% of the people wouldn't even get it....Henley can sue whoever he wants, but it's unlikely the company made much money off his name here. Henley is a type of shirt that has been around for ages. If I were him, I would be like, "who cares", but this is Don we're talking about. He will spend as much on the lawsuit as he will make on it, making it not even worth it, but just to prove his point, he will pursue it. He brings even more attention to the company by doing this too.

It's about principles with Don, he doesn't care about the money, he wants them to learn not to do this kind of thing and also maybe make others see they shouldn't do it either. At least that's what it seems like to me.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

If it was about the money, they'd allow people to use their name. I agree it's about the principle. The money aspect is like time-out to a child or jail as an adult...it's to deter people from doing it in the first place. People can say it's not up to Don to try and instill values in others, but he probably figures someone has to do it. I guess it's the internet age, people figure that anything out there is theirs to use if they so desire, and it's just not the case.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I have to agree that this is about principle, not money. I would expect that any money that may be gained from this would be donated to Don's charities. I can't recall the details, but I seem to remember another incident where Don donated the money he was awarded.

As far as the lawyers overstating and exaggerating facts, unfortunately, that seems to be the status quo in the legal profession. It's pretty sad given that our justice system is supposedly based on a search for the truth.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Recently released blurb, and if you click the Uncle Joe Benson link, you get the audio from SoundCloud. It was recently posted, not certain it's a recent interview.

http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/11/03/don-henley-john-lennon/

ETA: It is a new clip from Joe Benson, aired on Sunday.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Thanks for that link, VA. Don does a beautiful version of Yes It Is. I always loved the song, and he definitely does it justice! :applause:

[Houston Debutante]

Does anyone know where I can hear the Joe Benson interview?

[shunlvswx]

Here you go, HD.

Just scroll down.

https://soundcloud.com/uncle-joe-benson

[shunlvswx]

Ultimate Classic Rock website did a little article on the 30th Anniversary of Building the Perfect Beast.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-building-the-perfect-beast/

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I really like the album BTPB, I listen to it a lot. I like EOTI better merely because HOTM is on it, but BTPB is right up there. He says in the old interview that he stretched further with this one, took more chances. I need to think about this, because my opinion of Henley's solo career has always been that he didn't take any chances. I've always felt he stuck with a tried and true formula and didn't move from it. Not that his songs all sound the same, because part of the formula is avoiding that, but it would be really interesting to someday hear what he felt were the chances he took with this album. I'd like to hear his perspective, as I'm sure it comes down to the difference between someone who's a genius at songwriting compared to me, who hasn't a clue.

[Freypower]

In my view the chances he took were in departing so radically from the muscial genre people associated him with & drowning the album in synthesizers so it would sound '80s'. This is the reason why it's my least favourite of his albums. It doesn't seem to bother other people the way it bothers me.

It could be argued that some of the lyrics like the title track & the (in my view) extremely pretentious Driving With Your Eyes Closed were lyrically more left field than anything he had written before.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don makes the 'rumored' list for a new release for 2015. Ahem.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2015-new-music-releases/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276

[sodascouts]

Dare we hope?

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I know - it would definitely be great to hear an official release date announced :pray: :pray:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

An update to the Duluth Trading Co. suit that Don started. The judge has refused to dismiss the case. I believe this happened in January, but I don't see the update here. This gives a good explanation of the legal positions, so I thought I'd put it here.

http://www.freeadvice.com/news/Intellectual+Property/judge-rejects-joke-defense-in-don-henley-trademark-case.htm

[WalshFan88]

Who knew that Don sang backup on Aerosmith's "Amazing"? You learn something new every day! I love Aerosmith and was reading about their Get A Grip album which contained this tune.

I love how he helps out these harder rockin' bands, kind of like when he played drums for Guns N' Roses on Patience at one of the award shows.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don gets a small mention in this article about Taylor Swift and her propensity to trademark everything.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesscollen/2015/02/09/taylor-swift-trademark-primer-dozens-of-trademarks-belong-with-me/

[Funk 50]

I can't remember the last time a current aspiring musician name-checked Don.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/98443/brandon-flowers-new-album-desired-effect---he-wants-to-be-on-radio

Don they're talking about you. Release your album now!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Another example of how the music our guys have done means so much to people.

https://themadisonproject.wordpress.com/tag/don-henley/

[Topkat]

Wonder when Don will release that long awaited album?
It's got to be after this tour is over. I can't see it happening before that.
I actually almost forgot about it! It's been soooo long

[Funk 50]

I check this site at the beginning of every month.

http://www.directcurrentmusic.com/upcoming-releases/

Don's been T.B.A. since August 2013. The six months that preceded that, Cass County was listed as an August 2013 release.

I see Mumford & Sons have made a new album during Don's T.B.A. time.. Like the Eagles in the 70s, I expect they'll be going less folk, more rock to fill those big venues they'll be wanting to play during their next tour.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

An update to the Duluth Trading Co. suit that Don started. The judge has refused to dismiss the case. I believe this happened in January, but I don't see the update here. This gives a good explanation of the legal positions, so I thought I'd put it here.

http://www.freeadvice.com/news/Intellectual+Property/judge-rejects-joke-defense-in-don-henley-trademark-case.htm

An article that shows that Don and the Eagles are not the only ones who don't allow puns of their names to be used. Hall & Oates are suing someone for using "Haulin' Oats".

http://pagesix.com/2015/03/04/hall-oates-sue-brooklyn-company-over-hipster-haulin-oats-granola/

The article doesn't mention Don and his current lawsuit against Duluth Trading Company, but I thought I'd post it anyway.

ETA: This one does reference Don's lawsuit (and Beyonce's), and discusses the pride the Eagles have in not endorsing products.

http://www.ibtimes.com/hall-oates-sues-haulin-oats-granola-joins-don-henley-beyonce-enforcing-name-trademark-1837370

[Topkat]

I love how it says "rumored" release.
We have been waiting like 2 years already for Don's album.

[Funk 50]

I've always been impressed with the quality of everything that Henley's been involved with since launching the Eagles.

I'm not sure what his pre-Eagles stuff is like though. I don't know if he wrote or sung any songs with Shiloh but I can't imagine there being a better writer or singer within it's ranks.

http://exystence.net/blog/2015/03/07/shiloh-shiloh-1969-remastered-2014/#more-29379

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I've heard the Shiloh album, but it's been quite a while so it's hard to remember most of the songs. That tells me that they are not that memorable. The only one I can sing in my head is Simple Little Down Home Rock and Roll Love Song for Rosie and I might be remembering that because they played it in the HOTE docs and it is a catchy little tune. IIRC, Don wrote and sang 3 or 4 songs on the album. As with most young artist, I think he definitely grew as a song writer as he matured. :thumbsup:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

... As with most young artist, I think he definitely grew as a song writer as he matured. :thumbsup:

Definitely. Listening to Dirty Laundry at the moment. Talk about a song that people can relate to through the ages.... It's like all the cable news networks listened to the song and said, "Oh, yeah, we can do that." But I digress.

[UndertheWire]

Soda has a scan of the cover (http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/shilohback.jpg) and it gives Don (sole) writing credit for three songs. At that time, imo, there was at least one better singer in the band (eg whoever sings "...Love Song for Rosie"). There are short bits of two other Shiloh songs in the doc.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Hmm....someone else using one of Don's songs to promote their agenda. It sounds like an agenda he might agree with, but I bet he still won't be happy...

http://chipgelser.tumblr.com/post/93855414918/end-stigma-now-is-against-the-corruption-of

[DivineDon]

This is lovely...Don comes across so sweet :angel: LOVE HIM!!!

http://prairietableministries.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/dinner-with-don-henley.html

[Brooke]

Love that, DD! Thanks for sharing!

Can you imagine having Don's own tomato soup? :cool:

[Houston Baby]

Yes, thank you so much for sharing DD! What a lovely sincere posting by Mr. Frederickson.

" tomato bisque made from tomatoes from his own garden and a grilled cheese sandwich with roasted garlic bread and gruyere cheese." This sounds DELICIOUS!!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Very nice!!

[L101]

Thanks for posting that DD!!

Don's own homemade tomato soup and grilled cheese - nice to see he loves simple food even if it is a posher version :grin:

I wonder what Don's take on a crisp(chip) sandwich would be ??

[Brooke]

I wonder if he uses Velveeta for the sandwiches? :hilarious:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Not exactly sure what this is, but it has a nice picture of Don...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2015/03/13/392571768/drum-fill-friday-for-march-13?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=storiesfromnpr

[VAisForEagleLovers]

UCR just tweeted this, but I can't tell if it's a repeat from before, so I'm posting it anyway.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-10-don-henley-songs/

[DivineDon]

Not exactly sure what this is, but it has a nice picture of Don...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2015/03/13/392571768/drum-fill-friday-for-march-13?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=storiesfromnpr


http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/03/12/pn013113-5d0a4d1a3846e75520c13cf6a05483bf855826a2-s800-c85.jpg

A VERY VERY nice photo of Don, VA...thanks :thumbsup:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Yes, the Kid is adorable and talented, but I'm posting this here because I like that Don is listed as one of the greats. He's usually vastly underrated for his talent.

http://scottwykoff.wbal.com/2015/03/to-beat-of-different-drum.html

[DivineDon]

You're right, VA, gorgeous AND talented....:)

I saw this posted on Facebook with reference to Don and that letter to the chambermaid :hilarious: - wasn't sure where to post it though so here it is anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/toilet-paper-actually-goes-over_n_6887724.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

[VAisForEagleLovers]

This guy tweeted that Don did an interview. He actually tweeted it over the weekend, then again today. He didn't say when the interview was, but it was implied, of course, that it was recently. I asked him where it could be found and this was his reply. Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/vernakrose/don/overdrive%20tweet2_zps6wkgfiug.jpg

ETA: He added this and I still have no idea what he's talking about:

must purchase app for JOX OVERDRIVE and go into XM find CHIEFRUNNINGBEAR that's what I am told

[cynd1231]

I saw a post on someone's FB page this morning with a picture of Don & some guy, caption read "Don Henley spotted in Nashville earlier this week" but I haven't been able to confirm it's recent. Anybody heard anything? Could this possibly mean Cass County is finally going to be released?

[Brooke]

See this post, Cynd! Scroll for pic.

https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=298329#post298329

We don't know what he's doing, but we're hoping!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

A mention of Don and Heart of the Matter in a very different and interesting blog.

http://rockandrolldevotional.blogspot.com/2015/04/forgiveness.html?spref=tw

[DivineDon]

Wow VA!! Thanks for that - really interesting :thumbsup:

[Brooke]

VA, I enjoyed that too! Thanks!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

This is rather bizarre, a spoken poem about Don for no apparent reason.

http://www.clickhole.com/video/spoken-word-poem-amazing-even-if-it-appears-be-mai-2269?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

[Brooke]

You are right, bizarre!

[L101]

Maybe its her way of saying "hurry up with Cass County!!" :grin:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don's suit against the Duluth Trading Co. appears to have been settled out of court for an unknown amount, and the company has issued an apology, and made a contribution to Walden Woods.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/299745591.html

The apology:
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/dtc-shared/about-duluth-trading-company/apology/todonhenley.aspx

It's possible that the settlement was only the apology and contribution, plus maybe his lawyers' fees, but who knows? That's purely speculation on my part...

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I swear I didn't write this one! I have thought the same thoughts frequently since Don filed the suit. I'm glad someone else has considered the fact that Duluth Trading Co. isn't the innocent party here, and in more ways than one. I guess Don didn't feel they did it on purpose.

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/vernakrose/don/duluth%20opinion_zpsrnupshen.jpg

[ktdids]

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/vernakrose/don/duluth%20opinion_zpsrnupshen.jpg[/QUOTE]

What are the chances that somewhere out there in law school land, there's some professor teaching contract law
and using Don, Glenn, Irving and the Eagles as examples?!

[Funk 50]

I wish Don would release his Cass County album so I can once again read about Henley, the musician rather than Henley, the litigator. :-(

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Not sure about contract law, but definitely copyright law!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I swear I didn't write this one! I have thought the same thoughts frequently since Don filed the suit. I'm glad someone else has considered the fact that Duluth Trading Co. isn't the innocent party here, and in more ways than one. I guess Don didn't feel they did it on purpose.

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/vernakrose/don/duluth%20opinion_zpsrnupshen.jpg

ITA! I admire Don for standing up for his rights and for also making sure any settlements awarded are donated. To me, that make a strong statement that he is seeking justice rather than financial gain.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Doesn't mention Don, but it's on his Facebook page and website this morning. I have to say, having to give your $700 cellphone to someone you don't know is not something I would ever do. There's a LOT of people that won't read this article, or hear about this in advance. If you take public transportation, there is no going out and putting it in your car. Parents would never give up the only method a babysitter has of reaching them in an emergency. While I totally agree with no video during concerts, and am willing to respect an artist's wish to have no photographs taken, I'm pretty certain that if asked to hand my phone over to someone, I'd turn and walk away. Which totally sucks because the artist gets the money from my seat regardless. I've been in very secure facilities before, surrounded by people with very high DoD clearances, and having to hand over my phone to them is not an easy decision. No way would I do it otherwise. Not even for Don, although being such a fan, I would see a posting like this before the show. Casual fans would not. And if a parent did hand over a phone and there was an emergency they missed? :shrug:

By having this posted on his official sites, he's either saying "hey there's artists more stringent than me" or he's considering doing this, IMO.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/mumford-and-sons-ban-cell-
phones/

ETA: His words on his Facebook page:
Bravo to Mumford & Sons for taking a stand on cell phone use at their pre-album-release performance. The madness, the rudeness, the thoughtlessness must stop. Constantly looking at the world through a viewfinder is not seeing. Listening to live music while recording on a “smartphone” (or texting every 5 seconds) is not hearing. Experiencing life second-hand is not living. Be here now.

I believe this is his first personal message on his FB page and use of social media. Says a lot about what he's thinking.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Another blog about forgiveness that talks about The Heart of the Matter.

http://www.dailycommercial.com/columnists/article_1f737db6-123a-5154-8f27-f3dc4a2fca10.html

[thelastresort]

By having this posted on his official sites, he's either saying "hey there's artists more stringent than me" or he's considering doing this, IMO.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/mumford-and-sons-ban-cell-
phones/

ETA: His words on his Facebook page:

I believe this is his first personal message on his FB page and use of social media. Says a lot about what he's thinking.

I saw this just now on my feed, I've liked Mr. Henley's page for years and this is the first thing I've ever seen from it, aside from sharing Eagles links. It's interesting to read from the comments how many agree, and even those who don't are quite nice about it (the worst thing I think someone's called him is a socialist or something, I don't think he even is!). I do wonder if it was Don himself who purposefully typed that, or one of his assistants or advisors. I get the impression he has a strong dislike of social media so he must really mean it. I do of course agree with him, it made the two gigs I saw over here much more special and atmospheric for not having the entire ground floor lit up bright white...

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I can definitely agree with his stance. As a related item, since it has to do with his comment that being on a phone is not living... It seems a new trend is for brides and grooms to ask guests to take pictures with their phones, even during the ceremony, to cut down on the cost of a photographer. A friend of mine on Facebook thought this was a great idea. I asked why she'd want to view the marriage ceremony of her niece through a phone, and why she'd want to block the view of the people behind her.

You know, if people want to live through their phone, that's their prerogative. When it crosses the line of interfering with someone else's enjoyment of something, or using it to infringe on copyrighted material, that's another thing altogether. Like cigarette smoking, you want to destroy your body, do it, just keep your smoke far away from me.

[Funk 50]

I think, if it's possible, the band should put on two shows at each venue. One, no tech show at reduced prices. Instant ejection for any visible tech.

Second show, vastly inflated prices but the audience would be allowed to use all the tech they want.

In fact, the band could cut out the middle man and save a lot of fuss by, rather than performing the show personally, they could just run a film of the first concert on the screens at the second concert. Result. Everyone is happy :partytime:.

[shunlvswx]

I didn't see this on here, but their was a letter from Don about Walden Woods Project turning 25 today on their facebook page. Happy 25th Birthday, Walden Woods!!

A nice picture of Don too.

https://www.facebook.com/TheWaldenWoodsProject/photos/a.10150124477017722.296542.62149392721/10153337086287722/?type=1&theater

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Thanks, Shun! I saw a link to it earlier, and then couldn't find it to go back to it and grab it. I started to go out to the website and I remember bringing up the browser and then forgetting why! It's been one of those days.

This is something to really celebrate, IMO. I'm so glad Don did this and continues to put time, money, and attention on it.

[shunlvswx]

You're welcome, VA.

I was watching some clips on Walden Woods on Facebook today. I think those clips are my first seeing Don being so passionate about Walden Woods. I could read all the articles Don has been interviews for, but seeing with your eyes is powerful.

I'm glad he won that battle 20 something years and continue to do so 25 years later.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

UCR's take on what Don had to say about Mumford & Sons

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-cellphone-ban/

[L101]

Don's really doing the rounds on his cell phone ban - its on Ultimate Classic Rock today :grin:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-cellphone-ban/

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don's really doing the rounds on his cell phone ban - its on Ultimate Classic Rock today :grin:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-henley-cellphone-ban/

Yes, it's what I posted just above this :wink: Of course, once UCR gets it, then everyone picks up on it. It's all over the place now! Some of the comments have been interesting to read.

[L101]

Yes, it's what I posted just above this :wink: Of course, once UCR gets it, then everyone picks up on it. It's all over the place now! Some of the comments have been interesting to read.

Sorry about that , I checked before I posted but your comment hadn't shown up on my page :doh: I was using my phone, ironically enough, to post it and it didn't update, so I can kinda see Don's point about technology there :grin:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Sorry about that , I checked before I posted but your comment hadn't shown up on my page :doh: I was using my phone, ironically enough, to post it and it didn't update, so I can kinda see Don's point about technology there :grin:

I know! Using my phone at work is nearly impossible as the signal is so poor.

I am very addicted to technology, but I don't need to use my phone, tablets, or computer constantly. I just like knowing they're there if I need them. Oh, and technology keeps me employed!

[sodascouts]

Mumford and Sons were requiring a crowd of 1700 to check their phones.

The Eagles play for 17,000.

Even if Don wanted to do this for Eagles shows, it would be a logistical nightmare. Forget checking them; there wouldn't be a place they could all be stored, not to mention the lines before and after the show! The venue would have to remain open far longer - what will the unions say about the extra hours required? More pay? Alternatively, sending thousands of people back to their cars would mean that, besides nursing feelings of anger and resentment, you'd have many concert goers noisily coming in late - more even than do so now. Even if the word gets out, you still have 17,000 people being searched individually for phones... You thought it took a long time when they just made women open their purses!

Maybe Don hopes to enforce it at a solo tour where he plays for smaller audiences, but for the Eagles... It's simply unworkable on a practical level, regardless of your thoughts on it in principle.

The Eagles already ban the usage of phones; I'm afraid Don will have to be content with that, although it is annoying to have the security pouncing on people all night. Having them dive across me to threaten an offending phone user does take me out of the moment a bit.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Very true, Soda! Although some venues are getting more and more security conscious. In Raleigh, there were conveyor belts like in airports and overhead scanners. All metal had to go in little bins on the belt, and if you still set off the scanner, you got wanded. Made me wonder what kind of crowds normally frequented the place.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yeah - I gotta say, Don is really stretching here and I so hope he doesn't seriously think it would be a good idea to totally ban cell phones at Eagles concerts. I am one that has been relatively supportive of the band's no standing and no cell phone policies once they got their act together and quit sending mixed messages. My only complaints have been the couple of incidences when I witnessed over-zealous security guards become more of a distraction than the cell phones themselves or when they made folks turn off cell phones a full hour prior to the start of the show. However, as Soda said, a complete ban would be a logistical nightmare - not to mention a REALLY bad PR move, IMO.

In theory, I agree with Don's statement. I embrace what he is saying. At the Boston show last fall, the girl next to me stayed glued to her phone during the entire show. I found it to be very annoying and rude. I was very tempted to say something to her, but, in the end it was really none of my business. If that's the way she wants to experience the show, whatever. :shrug: I just think of the many of millions of folks that would have died to have her seat and really enjoy the show.

[Funk 50]

I think a technology ban is worth persevering with. If enough acts start to enforce it, it will become socially unacceptable, especially if the band, after a polite but firm warning, leave the stage until transgressors have been dealt with.

All this personal tech stuff is still pretty new. Currently, paying top dollar for iffy seats in huge arenas, audience members "bloated with entitlement", feel they've paid for the privilege of using their tech during concerts.

I hope, people will eventually get the message that sometimes it's appropriate to switch it off and put it away, even if it's likely you'll get away with acting in such a selfish and ignorant manner.

[EagleLady]

I think a technology ban is worth persevering with. If enough acts start to enforce it, it will become socially unacceptable, especially if the band, after a polite but firm warning, leave the stage until transgressors have been dealt with.

All this personal tech stuff is still pretty new. Currently, paying top dollar for iffy seats in huge arenas, audience members "bloated with entitlement", feel they've paid for the privilege of using their tech during concerts.

I hope, people will eventually get the message that sometimes it's appropriate to switch it off and put it away, even if it's likely you'll get away with acting in such a selfish and ignorant manner.

Having your Cell Phone out wanting to take pictures of your experience at a concert isn't Selfish or Ignorant, Its wanting to keep memories of your night.

[jms18222]

Hello!!! New poster here!

Just got my tickets for the Atlantic City show...yea! I noticed on the ticket that it states no cameras or video. Does this include your cell phone too?

I read where Munford & Sons banned cell phones which Henley supported.

[Freypower]

Having your Cell Phone out wanting to take pictures of your experience at a concert isn't Selfish or Ignorant, Its wanting to keep memories of your night.

I tend to agree because I went to four shows where I could have taken some incredible photos, especially on the last night, and I wasn't allowed to do so. It left a bad taste in my mouth. It also left the entire audience feeling that they had been subjected to a lecture (not by the band themselves, but the effect was the same). I understand all the arguments against this but I don't want to film them, only take photos. I don't know what's wrong with that, especially as the only official photos are of the first handful of songs.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Hello!!! New poster here!

Just got my tickets for the Atlantic City show...yea! I noticed on the ticket that it states no cameras or video. Does this include your cell phone too?

I read where Munford & Sons banned cell phones which Henley supported.

The Eagles do not ban cell phones in the building, but security will leap all over you if you take it out of your pocket or purse during the concert (I'm not joking). No use of it is allowed at all unless you want to go to the concourse.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I tend to agree because I went to four shows where I could have taken some incredible photos, especially on the last night, and I wasn't allowed to do so. It left a bad taste in my mouth. It also left the entire audience feeling that they had been subjected to a lecture (not by the band themselves, but the effect was the same). I understand all the arguments against this but I don't want to film them, only take photos. I don't know what's wrong with that, especially as the only official photos are of the first handful of songs.

What's wrong with it is that most people cannot be trusted to not video with it. Having it out and up means security needs to make a subjective call. Also, it is extremely selfish and rude if it interferes with another person's concert experience. As I said in the Seger thread, the show I saw in January, I was in row 8. Most would consider that a good seat. I missed quite a bit of seeing him because the people in front of me held their phones over their heads. They had to, since the six rows in front of them were doing the same thing. It was frustrating, I drove for 16 hours to see other people's cell phones for nearly a third of the concert.

ETA: Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a few pictures from each show I attend, but people have pretty much proven they can't help being selfish and rude for an entire concert.

[Freypower]

I understand all of that.

Perhaps if the Eagles ever released photos of themselves, or ever released a new DVD/Blu Ray, the problem wouldn't be so pervasive. They could embrace new technology themselves, like their so called website.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

The reason I came here was to say that Don had the 25-year Walden Woods message put on his Facebook page. This is two non-Eagles related messages in a week and I wonder what alien has taken over his body? I love it, of course, and am hoping he's just warming us up for other big announcements. Like an album release and a tour...

Here's a link to his Facebook page for those who may not have 'liked' it yet.

https://www.facebook.com/donhenley?fref=nf

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Another article, here Don is only mentioned. The article is about the right of publicity.

http://www.blogher.com/what-robin-williams-and-albert-einstein-tell-us-about-right-publicity?from=pop

[Funk 50]

Having your Cell Phone out wanting to take pictures of your experience at a concert isn't Selfish or Ignorant, Its wanting to keep memories of your night.

You're right EagleLady, wanting to take pictures isn't selfish or ignorant, doing it is.

[EagleLady]

You're right EagleLady, wanting to take pictures isn't selfish or ignorant, doing it is.

Doing it isn't. If you want memories of your concert experience, why is that Selfish or Ignorant to you? Its not hurting anyone to use your phone to take pics.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Doing it isn't. If you want memories of your concert experience, why is that Selfish or Ignorant to you? Its not hurting anyone to use your phone to take pics.

It is when you hold it up to get a clear view and it blocks the view of the person behind you. It would be fine if it happened once for only a moment or two, but these days, people hold them up for half the concert or more.

[EagleLady]

It is when you hold it up to get a clear view and it blocks the view of the person behind you. It would be fine if it happened once for only a moment or two, but these days, people hold them up for half the concert or more.

I Understand that but they shouldn't take away me Wanting to get memories from the Concert Experience.

[Funk 50]

The Eagles go to great lengths to inform the audience of how they would like them to behave. Remaining seated and keeping your phones out of view. It's a general courtesy to the band and fellow audience members to heed their requests.

Memories are in your head. If you want tangible mementos like selfies, sound bites, clips and photos, you're going to annoy the band and all the unselfish people around you who choose, not to ignore the band's requests.

The concert experience is about being in the moment not chronicling it. That's what I think anyway.

The "I'm not a bad person" defense doesn't wash.

[Topkat]

I'm going to stick in my 2 cents here, but the bands request on how to "behave" is just too much. When you pay the high prices for their tickets, then you should be able to enjoy the concert as you please,. This is why I hardly ever get floor seats, I'm 5'2' & when people stand up, I can't see, even if I get up also. For me the best seats are off to the side in the lower level, best I can get.
I have been in the front row. and in like 8th row. Unfortunately from the 8th row I could not see, so the $900. I spent on tix for 2 seats were not so great. That's a shame, but...
This is a concert, not Sunday school, & you can't control everyone's behavior. That's just reality.
I never bother to film because I know that whatever the "rules" are, there will be stuff up on "Youtube" anyway.

[Freypower]

I'm going to stick in my 2 cents here, but the bands request on how to "behave" is just too much. When you pay the high prices for their tickets, then you should be able to enjoy the concert as you please,. This is why I hardly ever get floor seats, I'm 5'2' & when people stand up, I can't see, even if I get up also. For me the best seats are off to the side in the lower level, best I can get.
I have been in the front row. and in like 8th row. Unfortunately from the 8th row I could not see, so the $900. I spent on tix for 2 seats were not so great. That's a shame, but...
This is a concert, not Sunday school, & you can't control everyone's behavior. That's just reality.
I never bother to film because I know that whatever the "rules" are, there will be stuff up on "Youtube" anyway.

It doesn't even get to YouTube any more.

I take exception with the words 'selfish' and especially 'ígnorant' as I am neither. I did what the band wanted in March. What did it prove? They get to tell entire arenas how to behave. That doesn't mean I have to like it. I do NOT hold my phone up for the entire show. Why should I be discriminated against because others do?

In 2010 their attitude was totally different. Why have they changed? I don't know. Could they be more proactive rather than come across as so heavy heanded? Yes, they could. The longer they go without updating their website or releasing new DVDs the more the fans will feel deprived.

[EagleLady]

The Eagles go to great lengths to inform the audience of how they would like them to behave. Remaining seated and keeping your phones out of view. It's a general courtesy to the band and fellow audience members to heed their requests.

Memories are in your head. If you want tangible mementos like selfies, sound bites, clips and photos, you're going to annoy the band and all the unselfish people around you who choose, not to ignore the band's requests.

The concert experience is about being in the moment not chronicling it. That's what I think anyway.

The "I'm not a bad person" defense doesn't wash.

Yes it does, If I want to take pictures of my Concert Experience, I should be allowed to do so.

[Topkat]

It doesn't even get to YouTube any more.

I take exception with the words 'selfish' and especially 'ígnorant' as I am neither. I did what the band wanted in March. What did it prove? They get to tell entire arenas how to behave. That doesn't mean I have to like it. I do NOT hold my phone up for the entire show. Why should I be discriminated against because others do?

In 2010 their attitude was totally different. Why have they changed? I don't know. Could they be more proactive rather than come across as so heavy heanded? Yes, they could. The longer they go without updating their website or releasing new DVDs the more the fans will feel deprived.

I agree FP, but last years NY shows were up on YouTube. From the upper levels people videoed & with a zoom lens, it was pretty good . I guess they get taken down, but they do come up right after the show. Also the security is pretty lax upstairs. I like to take a few pictures also, but the camera police are out in full force down in the front. It's also a shame that they don't release more pictures & video on their own website.

I also have an issue with being called "selfish" & especially "ignorant" !!!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Cellphones and small cameras have much better capabilities now than they did in 2010, I would think that's the main factor. Plus, more people have them and use them, and as I've said before, for people near the front, the band has the best view of the people bobbing and weaving to see around a cellphone or camera stuck in their line of sight. I don't think it matters if you don't do it for an entire concert, and whether the magic number of what's acceptable is one or 40, the person whose view is being blocked probably has a different number in mind.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

From the personal collection of Carrie Fisher...

http://www.debbiereynoldsstudiostore.com/products/a-26-tan-plush-bunny-from-the-personal-collection-of-carrie-fisher

[sodascouts]

How precious! Why in the world would she want to sell that??

[DivineDon]

Oh, my God! Why would she sell that? Surely the daughter would want to keep it anyway? I don't think Don would be too impressed :eyebrow:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

This short little article isn't about Don, nor does it mention him, but it is about drummers in general. Apparently, drummers are typically smarter than the average bears!

http://3tags.org/article/new-study-claims-that-drummers-are-more-intelligent-than-everyone

[DivineDon]

This short little article isn't about Don, nor does it mention him, but it is about drummers in general. Apparently, drummers are typically smarter than the average bears!

http://3tags.org/article/new-study-claims-that-drummers-are-more-intelligent-than-everyone


Why am I not surprised? Don is most definitely a 'smarty pants' :thumbsup:

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well - that settles it!

I guess I'm gonna have to take up drumming so I can have an intellectual discussion with Don. :thumbsup:

[jms18222]

Are you guys saying that a petite gal like me isn't going to see anything with ground floor seating? Dang!! I may have spent a ton of $$ to see people's heads..oh well!!

First time I say these guys was in 1977 in Philadelphia. I sat on my then boyfriend's shoulders the entire concert. Memorable night.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It depends what row you're in! Fortunately, besides the 'no pictures' rules, they have a 'no standing' rule for the slower songs. Since people won't be standing in front of you until about Heartache Tonight, you should be able to see part of it.

[Topkat]

It depends what row you're in! Fortunately, besides the 'no pictures' rules, they have a 'no standing' rule for the slower songs. Since people won't be standing in front of you until about Heartache Tonight, you should be able to see part of it.

True for the early part of the show people stayed seated, but there are always some that will get up. They don't announce "okay you can get up now" The security people don't tell u to sit down, they are only after the cameras. I had a hard time seeing a lot of the show from 8th row, even on the aisle, which is usually better view. Next show I got side seats & saw a whole lot better!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

They were told to sit down at concerts I was at, and threatened with eviction!

[Houston Baby]

I remember at the Orlando concert, Don actually sang the line "you can get up now" during "LITFL". :partytime:

[jms18222]

We are sitting in the 19th row.

To be honest I really don't care about taking pictures or videos. Sure it would be a nice memory to have, I spent too much money to waste it watching it through a camera lense. I guess if all else fails I will just have to stand on my seat!

I am just looking forward to a girl's weekend of sun, surf, shopping, a bit of gambling & an Eagles concert. The fact that we can go to Margritaville for a few post concert refreshments makes it all the better.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

jms - I'm very short too so sometimes I struggle to see as well. Although it is much better now that most of the time folks are sitting for of the show. As VA said, around about Heartache Tonight is when just about everyone will be standing for good so you may struggle to get a good view then. Just a little hint, if you can make your way to the end of the center aisle, sometimes security will allow folks to stand there near the end of the show as long as you aren't in anyone's way and the entire aisle isn't being blocked. Good luck and hope you have a blast!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Five best songs with 'Summer' in the title, you know Don's going to be in this one! The good news is that he's #1 of the five...

http://m.axs.com/5-best-songs-with-summer-in-the-title-53601

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Don posted on Facebook yesterday (or more likely, had someone else do it, but the message was his).


My old friend, J. D. Souther, has just released a new album entitled “Tenderness.” Produced by the estimable Larry Klein, it’s a beautiful piece of work — great songs and sensual arrangements. Check it out: jdsouther.net

Very interesting that he's begun to use social media, and what he's used it for. So far it's been things very near and dear to him, like backing up Mumford and Sons' refusal to allow cellphones and for Walden Woods, and now to promote JD's album.

[shunlvswx]

Has Hell Froze Over again? Even thought somebody is probably posting his post, but I agree. Seeing Don post on facebook(or his people) lately, its been interesting that he's slowly starting to like social media. He probably still hates it, but he's taking baby steps.

I didn't see that post yesterday. I need to check it out.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I missed it, too. I found it on Twitter this morning where someone linked to it. It didn't hit my NewsFeed, nor did the 'share' by the Eagles. I seldom get Felder's posts in my NewsFeed, either. There are times Facebook seriously annoys me. When I 'like' a page, it's because I want to see what they post. Heck, I don't even get my own posts on the EOC page in my NewsFeed!

[DivineDon]

Don or 'his people' could be building up to promoting his own album through social media...we live in hope :thumbsup:

[shunlvswx]

VA. I have to set it to notification after I like the page because if I don't do that, I will never know when a new post is posted. Their are certain pages have it setup to when a page post a new post. I don't know how I miss that one since I do have it set where if Don's facebook page has a post, I get a notification. That was probably around a time that I'm not looking at facebook(even though I have it up, I don't always read anything new).

[shunlvswx]

OK. I went to check Don's page. I didn't have it setup to get a notification. That explains why I didn't see his post yesterday. I guess I didn't have it on get notification because until lately his page wasn't always updated and it was always about tour dates. I changed it now.

I do have it set for DonF's and Joe's pages since they update their facebook page a lot. I just didn't for Don's page.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

VA. I have to set it to notification after I like the page because if I don't do that, I will never know when a new post is posted. Their are certain pages have it setup to when a page post a new post. I don't know how I miss that one since I do have it set where if Don's facebook page has a post, I get a notification. That was probably around a time that I'm not looking at facebook(even though I have it up, I don't always read anything new).

I didn't think about that, Shun. I usually turn off all notifications like that so that my phone isn't constantly beeping at me, especially at work. I do have EOC set up to give me notifications, of course, and the two things I pushed out this morning still aren't in my NewsFeed.

A friend said that if you don't 'like' or comment on items from pages, they stop getting put into your NewsFeed. While I have noticed that, I 'like' or comment on all Eagles-related pages. For the one Don and the Eagles pushed out for JD, maybe it didn't hit my NewsFeed because I got the original one from JD?

Complaining about Facebook could be a whole other thread! However, I'm really glad it gives the guys another method to reach their fans. I agree, DD, that hopefully it's a lead-up. Glenn didn't do that, his Facebook page was created the day the announcement was made, which was too late to do what it's intended to do.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Uh-Oh! Look what I found... I feel another lawsuit coming on. I saw a tweet yesterday where someone copied the lawsuit from Duluth Trading Company, and today this ad was in a Google Alert.

http://milled.com/flint-and-tinder/MmTVDANGoLx2f4J1

[sodascouts]

It depends on whether the side comment "What happens if Don Henley gets hot" is a part of the ad or a commentary upon the ad. Don would have a much more difficult time if it's just one-time commentary rather than a part of the ad (which is how it appears to be on the page). That may not stop his lawyer from sending a C&D, though.

On a related note, word is out in academia about Don's litigious... careful guardianship of his artistic rights, shall we say. Recently, an academic journal my friend edits told an author that she needed to get legal permission if she used a line from "Hotel California" in her article analyzing rhetoric (she wanted to say that we writers are "prisoners of our own [rhetorical] device"). Permission was duly obtained!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It's an odd situation, it was an email, and I found it on an email search engine. I wasn't even aware that there was such a thing. A C&D would mean they would not send any more such emails or use it in other advertising, but there's no way they can undo it now.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Concertbank is predicting Don to be the next big thing in music. They got his age wrong, and they are saying this tour wraps up in Los Angeles on July 29. Maybe the Eagles are doing a private show? Or maybe they got it wrong like they did his age?

ETA: 7/29 is the date of the show in Bossier City, so I guess the author got LA (Louisiana) confused with Los Angeles.

http://knoe.membercenter.worldnow.com/story/29162452/concertbank-predicts-don-henley-could-be-the-next-big-thing-in-the-music-industry-again

[jms18222]

By the time Cass County gets released I'm going to be 68 & I am a longggg way from that!!!!

[sodascouts]

I have no doubt Don's going to do well, but the phrase "next big thing" makes it sound like he's something new. This guy isn't the next big thing, he's the "already big thing"!

[L101]

Not sure if this was posted before but its nice to read again...
This just shows that boys will always be boys - can just picture Don driving this around his ranch :grin:

Super Furry Animals: “Don Henley has our tank!” (http://www.qthemusic.com/10210/super-furry-animals-don-henley-has-our-tank-q348-preview/)

Makes me wonder how big his ranch is though ????

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I have no doubt Don's going to do well, but the phrase "next big thing" makes it sound like he's something new. This guy isn't the next big thing, he's the "already big thing"!

A tweet I saw said "the next big thing...again"!

[AlreadyGone95]

Not sure if this was posted before but its nice to read again...
This just shows that boys will always be boys - can just picture Don driving this around his ranch :grin:

Super Furry Animals: “Don Henley has our tank!” (http://www.qthemusic.com/10210/super-furry-animals-don-henley-has-our-tank-q348-preview/)

Makes me wonder how big his ranch is though ????

I would love to see that! That tank is huge!

[AlreadyGone95]

I have no doubt Don's going to do well, but the phrase "next big thing" makes it sound like he's something new. This guy isn't the next big thing, he's the "already big thing"!

Reminds me of a few months ago when Kayne West fans thought that he was going to make Paul McCartney a star by doing a song with him!
Seriously, if your band (that you helped create) is playing sold out concerts to fans all over the world and you have people highly anticipating the announcement of a release date for your next solo album, how can you not be a "big thing"?
:eyebrow:

[sodascouts]

Not sure if this was posted before but its nice to read again...
This just shows that boys will always be boys - can just picture Don driving this around his ranch :grin:

Super Furry Animals: “Don Henley has our tank!” (http://www.qthemusic.com/10210/super-furry-animals-don-henley-has-our-tank-q348-preview/)

Makes me wonder how big his ranch is though ????


LOL! Surely they're just kidding? I can't visualize Don riding a tank around in his backyard for kicks, although I guess you never know!

[L101]

LOL! Surely they're just kidding? I can't visualize Don riding a tank around in his backyard for kicks, although I guess you never know!

I thought it was a bit odd as well but there are a few different links out there about it - apparently Don has 5 or 6 tanks on his ranch! ! Don't know if it's true or not but its :hilarious:

[Brooke]

Too funny! Somehow, I just can't see that thing in Don's yard! :hilarious:

[AlreadyGone95]

LOL! Surely they're just kidding? I can't visualize Don riding a tank around in his backyard for kicks, although I guess you never know!

I can easily picture this. Since he has a tractor, I'm sure he'd love a tank. You know how guys like their big toys. :hilarious:

[jms18222]

Tanks...too funny!! Wait isn't he part of the anti gun/war machine brigade?

[VAisForEagleLovers]

There's actually 'regular' mentions of Don in the press out there. I have no idea who this guy is, but he has taste...

http://muvimotv.com/entertainment/find-out-who-wants-to-work-with-don-henley-2

[VAisForEagleLovers]

In light of Don releasing another album soon, UCR gives us their take on Don's top 10 songs.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-10-don-henley-songs/

I think I more or less agree with these songs, but definitely not the order. For me, Heart of the Matter is #1. I feel it's not only one of the best songs Don has ever written, but one of the best songs ever written by anyone. I guess because it nailed an experience I was going through at the time, more or less. Like Hole In the World did for the events of 9/11, this song put what I was feeling into words and music, and helped me with getting some closure.

[Freypower]

Nothing from Inside Job except for Taking You Home which I dislike. So my second favourite of his songs, Damn It, Rose is absent, as is what I think is his masterpiece, A Month Of Sundays. I know DIR isn't for everyone. I can't remember if I ever put together a Top 10 or not. The list focuses far too much on hits as opposed to quality.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, to be fair most all of these type lists do focus on the hits because in there is something to be said for commercial success and public opinion. I agree with VA - even though some of my personal favorites are absent, I think the songs that they chose are spot on. I would have included the same ones because these songs are all very high quality AND they have the added bonus of being commercially successful. Also, like VA, I do disagree with the order that they placed them in. Here's my personal ranking:

1. The Boys of Summer
2. The End of the Innocence
3. Dirty Laundry
4. The Heart of the Matter
5. All She Wants to Do is Dance
6. The Last Worthless Evening
7. Taking You Home
8. New York Minute
9. Sunset Grill
10. Not Enough Love in the World

[Freypower]

I found a list of 15 tracks in an old 'make your own compilation CD' thread. If I were to make a top 10 I guess it would be like this:

A Month Of Sundays
Damn It, Rose
Love Rules
The End Of The Innocence
Talking To The Moon
The Last Worthless Evening
Dirty Laundry
The Boys Of Summer
Goodbye To A River
Lilah

[AlreadyGone95]

I don't know if I should comment or not because I haven't had a chance to listen to Inside Job yet. (I will soon), but of his other albums, my top 10:

1. Dirty Laundry
2. Boys of Summer
3. New York Minute
4. The End of the Innocence
5. All She Wants to Do is Dance
6. Johnny can't Read (as a product of today's public schools in the states I love this song)
7. Heart of the Matter
8. I Will Not Go Quietly
9. Sunset Grill
10. Lilah

Building the Perfect Beast might replace Lilah.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

In a copyright tussle between Neil Young and Donald Trump, you know our guy Don has to be mentioned...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/dont-bet-neil-young-beating-803166

Another one:
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2015/06/three-of-the-most-commonly-misunderstood-music-copyright-laws.html

[VAisForEagleLovers]

An article about Don that is a repeat. Still a good read. I like it when the word 'legend' is used in reference to our guys.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-don-henley/

[sodascouts]

In a copyright tussle between Neil Young and Donald Trump, you know our guy Don has to be mentioned...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/dont-bet-neil-young-beating-803166

Another one:
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2015/06/three-of-the-most-commonly-misunderstood-music-copyright-laws.html

I love reading about all these legal nuances. It's always interesting to see what sticks and what doesn't.

[Topkat]

I don't see how politicians have the balls to use a song without permission. I read the article & I do think that people would assume the song is an endorsement of the candidate...And I can clearly see that Neil Young would NOT support Trump in any way... I DO think he will sue & WIN.

However, Trumps announcement to run is a stand up comics dream come true, LOL Let the fun begin!

I SAY GO NEIL :thumbsup: Don't let this jerk use you for his own gain!!

[AlreadyGone95]

Did Trump really think that he could use Rockin in the Free World, and not piss off Neil Young? :hilarious:

It's Neil's song, and he should have the right to not let people use it for their own agenda,as should any artist. I agree with Topkat, that if an artist lets a political candidate use one of their songs, then in a way, that shows a sign of endorsement.

As for Trump running, ain't the political clown car already full? This will be the first presidential election that I can vote in, and it's going to be a nail biter.

[sodascouts]

The problem is that if Trump only uses songs by musicians who support his candidacy, he'd be hard pressed to find any! Maybe he should use old songs by performers who have died. They're the only ones who wouldn't complain.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Trump is rather arrogant, and if he gave it a thought, he'd have figured he could do anything he want. In the odd case where a mere artist would disagree with him, well, in his world, those with the most money win.

[AlreadyGone95]

The problem is that if Trump only uses songs by musicians who support his candidacy, he'd be hard pressed to find any! Maybe he should use old songs by performers who have died. They're the only ones who wouldn't complain.

:rofl: :rofl:

Good point, Soda. I still can't believe that he's serious about running!

His arrogance and "holier than thou" attitude is part of why I could never vote for him. I don't want a person who sticks their nose up at us regular folks to be in the white house!

[Topkat]

Trump is rather arrogant, and if he gave it a thought, he'd have figured he could do anything he want. In the odd case where a mere artist would disagree with him, well, in his world, those with the most money win.

Rather arrogant is putting it mildly. Yes, he thinks he can do whatever he wants, but I do not think Neil Young is the type to let him get away with this. I think he's like Henley in this type of thing, & wouldn't care how much it costs him, he will sue Trump & let the world know what an idiot he is.
He just thinks he can buy his way into the White House. He's just making a fool of himself. :hilarious:
Can't wait to see Neil take action here.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Rather arrogant is putting it mildly. Yes, he thinks he can do whatever he wants, but I do not think Neil Young is the type to let him get away with this. I think he's like Henley in this type of thing, & wouldn't care how much it costs him, he will sue Trump & let the world know what an idiot he is.
He just thinks he can buy his way into the White House. He's just making a fool of himself. :hilarious:
Can't wait to see Neil take action here.

Since he didn't use it in an ad, only as background music so to speak, it's unclear if Neil will win if he sues. More than a few lawyers have said falls under the heading of fair use. It will be interesting.

[AlreadyGone95]

Since he didn't use it in an ad, only as background music so to speak, it's unclear if Neil will win if he sues. More than a few lawyers have said falls under the heading of fair use. It will be interesting.

That will be an interesting lawsuit if Neil feels the need to file one. If he does sue and win, that could mean that anyone could get in trouble for playing a song to a crowd/audience. While it's unlikely that if would affect a non celeb or politician, it is a slippery slope.

[Jonny Come Lately]

I can totally understand why Neil doesn't want Rockin' In The Free World to be associated with Donald Trump's presidential campaign. I suspect that when it came to choosing the song Trump simply thought of the chorus and how great it was to be rocking in the free world, rather than the biting social criticisms in the verses which strongly opposed the policies of Bush Senior (most notably 'We got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand', which directly attacked his 'kinder, gentler nation' speech).

My sympathies in this kind of situation tend to vary depending on the artist and the song used. I can totally understand when artists who have written political songs like Neil object when someone whose views they disagree with then use their song, the same for Jackson Browne (I think he sued a Republican candidate who used one of his songs). By contrast, I thought the fuss that the British band Keane made when the UK Conservative Party used one of their songs (Everybody's Changing) in the run up to (I think) the 2010 election was over the top. Although I can understand why they didn't want to be associated with a party they did not support, the manner in which they complained about it was somewhat off putting, especially as the song's lyrics were not really political in nature and the band members went to an expensive public school.

On a lighter note, does anyone know whether Joe Walsh minded Life's Been Good been used in one of the 1980 presidential campaigns? ;)

[AlreadyGone95]

I can totally understand why Neil doesn't want Rockin' In The Free World to be associated with Donald Trump's presidential campaign. I suspect that when it came to choosing the song Trump simply thought of the chorus and how great it was to be rocking in the free world, rather than the biting social criticisms in the verses which strongly opposed the policies of Bush Senior (most notably 'We got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand', which directly attacked his 'kinder, gentler nation' speech).

When I first heard that Trump had used this song, my first thought was " does he even realize the meaning of the lyrics?". It's just like Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA. People hear the chorus and they believe that it's a song praising America, when it's the complete opposite!

[Topkat]

Since he didn't use it in an ad, only as background music so to speak, it's unclear if Neil will win if he sues. More than a few lawyers have said falls under the heading of fair use. It will be interesting.

He didn't use it in an ad, but what he did was much worse, in using it to announce his candidacy for President. This is a widely heard announcement, & he had no right to use it. I do think Neil will go after him for this..."Fair Use" What does that even mean??? That song was blasting in the background & it does imply that the artist is supporting this candidate, so I do think Neil can win this in court.
Should be interesting.

[AlreadyGone95]

He didn't use it in an ad, but what he did was much worse, in using it to announce his candidacy for President. This is a widely heard announcement, & he had no right to use it. I do think Neil will go after him for this..."Fair Use" What does that even mean??? That song was blasting in the background & it does imply that the artist is supporting this candidate, so I do think Neil can win this in court.
Should be interesting.

Fair use (copied and pasted from this (http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html) website:
the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

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I don't know if this kind of "fair use" argument has been used before or not. Does Trump's use of the song fall under those categories mentioned above? That's the million dollar question.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Ag95, thank you for the link. However, I think what tk was suggesting is that it is very subjective. Experts seem to think that if Neil does sue, it will go into new territory.

[AlreadyGone95]

I figured that this would be the best place to post this (unless one of the mods wants to create another thread for it).

Donald Trump has responded to Neil Young's diss over his use of the song Rockin in the Free World:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/24/politics/trump-responds-to-neil-young-on-twitter/

"Trump published a series of tweets calling the artist a "total hypocrite" because according to Trump, Young visited Trump's office requesting money for an audio deal and invited Trump to his show just last week".

[Topkat]

It clearly states that Neil Young supports Bernie Sanders as a candidate for President & "Rockin' the Free World" is a protest song against 80's Republicans.

Trump is a user & tries to get everything for free. If Young asked for money for using his song, Well I feel he has every right to be paid for it. The song was clearly used to benefit Trump & clearly implies support.
I don't give a crap if Trump shook his hand, This is all part of his pretentious act. Jackson Browne sued John McCain for using his song "Running on Empty" & they settled. Bottom line, like Jackson said in the video, "You can't just use someone's song & not pay them for it."

As far as I'm concerned, the guy is a joke. He has billions, but all his hotels file for bankruptcy. I even think he's a con artist. If he is elected President, we are in serious trouble, & I mean even more trouble than we are already in.

[AlreadyGone95]

I agree with everything you said, Topkat, particularly the part about him being elected president :yuck:.(the thought of him sittingin the white house makes me both wanna cry and hit something )

Im :rofl: at the part where Trump said that he didn't care for the song anyway. If you don't like the song, why use it then? :eyebrow:

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Trisha Yearwood is going to have an exhibit in the Country Music Hall of Fame, and in this article, she refers to Don as one of her idols.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6613293/trisha-yearwood-country-music-hall-fame-exhibit