Eagles Album Survivor

[sodascouts]

Time for a new Survivor! This one is Eagles Album Survivor. If you're new, for a basic overview of the game, see this post: Survivor Overview (https://eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6551&postcount=7%20%5B/)

I'm going to list the albums of the Eagles here (except for the Greatest Hits packages). Vote for the album that you feel should be eliminated from the list. The album that gets the most votes will be taken off of the list (or, in the language of Survivor, "Voted off of the island.") Each round, one more album will get axed, until there's only one left. Remember, you're voting for the one you feel should go, not for one you want to stay.

Each round will last 48 hours after posting to give people a chance to vote who don't post every day. That means that the first round will end at 8:00 Eastern time the day after tomorrow. If you miss a round, don't think you can't play. It's all good!

Since there may be discussion posts, be sure to make it clear when you are casting your vote. Votes cannot be cast once the board clock has struck 8:00 on the second day, and they cannot be changed once you have voted.

If you get confused about what round we are in, look at this post. I'll always update it to reflect the current round. Also feel free to post any questions if you don't understand what's going on.

If there is a tiebreaker, then ALL votes from ALL previous rounds are tallied and whoever has the most prior votes is eliminated. That’s the way it’s done on the real show, that’s the way it’s done here. If there is a complete tie with prior votes (Murphy’s Law), then I'll have a sudden-death trivia question ready. The first person who answers it correctly gets to break the tie. The odds of that happening are slim, but you never know, and it's good to be prepared.

The tie-breaker question will be asked one hour after results are in, if there is need for it. The exception is the last round. If the tie-breaker does not resolve the last round, then the tie will be allowed to stand.


And the winner is....

HOTEL CALIFORNIA!

Albums Eliminated:
Eagles Live 11/19
Hell Freezes Over 11/21
The Long Run 11/23
On the Border 11/27
Eagles 11/29
One of These Nights 12/01
Desperado 12/03
Long Road Out of Eden 12/05


GAME OVER. Thanks for Playing!!!

[EagleLady]

I vote for Desperado.

[sodascouts]

My first vote is definitely going towards one of the live albums... I just haven't decided which one yet! Hell Freezes Over is such a landmark in terms of the Eagles finally getting back together and it has three new songs. They sound excellent on it. However, it's also short and rather disproportionately heavy on the Henley (no offense to Don - but it is an Eagles album, not "Don Henley and Friends"). On the other hand, Eagles Live is full of terrifically performed material but only has one new song (I don't count Joe's solo songs they threw in), and that "new" song, Seven Bridges Road, is a cover. Still, that cover is pretty fabulous!

Decisions, decisions!

[WalshFan88]

Gee, I wonder what I will vote off first?! ;) :hilarious:

I vote for Desperado.

My least favorite Eagles album by far.

[sodascouts]

Shoot, Desperado is my fave!

[Freypower]

I vote for Eagles Live.

I can't even remember when I last listened to it. I always thought the inclusion of tracks from 1976 on an album which was supposed to represent the band in 1980 was strange.

[sodascouts]

Perhaps, but since it enabled the inclusion of "Take It to the Limit," I'm glad they did it.

[Freypower]

Perhaps, but since it enabled the inclusion of "Take It to the Limit," I'm glad they did it.

I am probably the only one, but I'm afraid I don't much like the version of the song on Eagles Live (runs & hides).

[GlennLover]

I vote Hell Freezes Over. My reasons are pretty much Soda's comments from Post#3. It's the album I listen to the least (but I sure watch the video a lot).

[The Disco Strangler]

I'm gonna go with Eagles Live.

[Tori]

I'm gonna have to vote for Eagles Live.

[luvthelighthouse]

I misread this title! I thought it was the Eagles LP... not actual albums.

We'll, since I listen to it the least, I'm gonna vote for Eagle Live!

I don't know why I'm surprised at the Desperado votes already... but I am. I guess it's too mellow for many, but I really like it. Heck, I like 'em all! (Shocker, I know)

[sodascouts]

That title of the thread is confusing, but how to fix it? Darn those self-titled albums, making everything difficult! ;)

[Shadowland07]

I vote for Long Road Out of Eden. Just...it just didn't do it for me. I can listen to the other albums all the way through but not this one.

[AzEaglesFan]

This is already hard. But after looking all of them over, I going to vote for Eagles Live.

[Koala]

I cast my vote for Eagles Live

[sodascouts]

OK, I know I'm going against the grain, but I've decided....

I cast my vote for Hell Freezes Over.

[WalshFan88]

I guess I'll talk about about my feelings again on Desperado for those who didn't catch it when we did the Desperado Survivor. I will also talk about which of the two live albums is better IMO and which should be saved from immediate death.

First, Desperado. I know it may seem as a shock but this album has always been the least favorite of mine. I've never been a History guy, a Western guy, or a Country (not just the music but that environment/attitude/look/everything) guy. I don't dig stuff like that and the Wild West stuff. It obviously is a concept album but I just can't get into it. The only song on the album I can stomach is Desperado. I also kind of like Out Of Control. But Desperado IMO is the only song on the album that really is a "great Eagles song". I don't know how to say this without sounding like the Eagles can make bad albums, but it is probably the worst album the Eagles made. Now I hate saying that because there really is no bad Eagles music, but IMO it just didn't have much substance. It's not a bad album per se, but it doesn't stack up to their other work is what I mean. I would even prefer the first album to Desperado and I'm not a Country music fan. IMO On The Border is when they started to get into more my style of music and by the time "Hotel" came out is when they really entered "my" genre of music (Classic Rock). Desperado just doesn't click with me. And while I don't like LROOE that much as I don't think it stacks up to their earlier works, I like it better than Desperado. A lot of the Desperado tracks are sad too, and I don't handle depressing music well. I know that sounds crazy from a guy who loves tunes like Hotel California which is a slow mysterious and perhaps depressing tune, but Hotel California actually brings me out of depression and inspires me. Maybe that inspiration and making me feel good has to do with how it saved my life and made me do something and gave me hope.

Now, as far as "Live" vs HFO, that's no question. Live is the better choice IMO. I agree with Soda (I think it was her who said this) who said HFO had way too much Henley solo material. I agree. Most of them were downers too. Not hardly enough Eagles material. I realize the significance of the album (reunion) but if we are talking SONGS and SETLISTS, Live wins out. I absolutely love the Setlist on the Eagles Live record. And admittedly I love the Joe tunes on there as well but at least there is more Eagles tunes than solo tunes and has the biggest Eagles hits on it. I prefer the version of "Life's Been Good" on Eagles Live to the version on Joe's solo album "But Seriously Folks". That version of LBG is my fav. Having two guitars on it and dual solos with Felder in it is so nice and background vocals. Admittedly I'm surprised about all of these votes for "Live" when I would figure most would vote HFO off before it. Live is one of my favorite Eagles albums. And I just love that 70s sound and the whole thing. It also seems more energetic and kind of uplifting than HFO for sure. HFO admittedly is kind of a downer for me until the very end. I do not like the HC version on HFO at all. I want the original electric version. But that is just me. But I want to save "Eagles Live"!

Just my thoughts and opinions on my vote and also some of the other votes and the live albums.

[WalshFan88]

OK, I know I'm going against the grain, but I've decided....

I cast my vote for Hell Freezes Over.

:partytime::headbang::cheers::yay::applause:

Thanks! :D

[Glennsallnighter]

I vote Hell Freezes Over. My reasons are pretty much Soda's comments from Post#3. It's the album I listen to the least (but I sure watch the video a lot).


Yep GL, I watch HFO a lot as well. It may feature Don Henley a lot on the vocal end of things, but I take more note of that cute guitarist in the background.

[EaglesFanatic]

I vote for Eagles LP.

[TimothyBFan]

I love Eagles Live and LOVE HFO for about the reason that most of you are saying you don't, I think the Don vocals pretty much make it for me!!! His voice is just amazing and he was in top form during this one. Besides gotta love the new songs. I remember watching it and seeing Get Over It for the first time and thinking, "wow! Isn't that all the truth!!". And LWKUA!! :thud:

So my first vote goes to Desperado. It's always been my least favorite Eagles album.

[Brooke]

Wow, we're 13 or so hours in to the game and 3 pages of discussion already!

And these votes for Desperado? Nooooooooooo, I love that album! Of course I love all of them, just some more than others. My first thought was The Long Run, but I didn't know the live albums would be included.

Therefore, I cast my vote for Hell Freezes Over. It's wonderful, but as others said, a little heavy on the Henley. And I do love my Henley! And I've always played the live album quite a lot because of 7BR being on it and also Randy's gorgeous TITTL.(as Glenn comments on.)

[Windeagle]

Considering that the Eagles LP is only one of two that I didn't feel the need to replace on CD, that's the one I'll vote off first.

By the looks of it though, my beloved Eagles Live or Desperado might end up on the chopping block first. <sniff>

[Topkat]

My vote goes to DESPERADO. My least favorite Eagle album. I found this a huge let down compared to the 1st album & kind of turned me off to the Eagles for a bit.
I'm actually shocked at all the votes for HFO. LOVE that album, one of my favorites!

[BBKron]

Wow, this is not what I expected to see so far, at all.

Now, I know that not everyone here loves Desperado as much as I do, and for many here, there seems to be more of a preference for the later stuff than their earlier 'country-rock' songs, but still, for Desperado to already have a half dozen elimination votes in the very first round is just unreal.

In my opinion, Desperado is the Eagles' Masterpiece, and not only their very best album, start to finish, but one of the all-time best albums ever made, anytime, anywhere, by anyone.

But, aside from that, most of the early votes have focused on the live albums. Now, I guess I can understand that, because they generally do not have new material, and are probably not listened to as often as the others, but I still have a hard time justifying voting for them as the first to go. After all, they do contain good to great performances of many of their classic songs, and for that they are still great albums. And in particular, I could not vote for HFO here, because HFO contained 4 GREAT NEW songs, and these were the FIRST NEW EAGLES SONGS in over 14 Years! This alone certainly puts this album above some of the others.

But, I guess what is most troubling to me, is that there has not been a single vote cast yet for either of what I consider to be the two weakest Eagles albums, meaning that neither one probably have much of a chance of going down in this round. And to me, these are the only 2 albums I could ever vote for in this round, regardless of what others vote for.

So, it is with much confusion and dismay that I cast my vote for the weakest of all the Eagles albums, the one that pretty much dissappointed most Eagles fans around the world when it came out in 1979.
I vote to remove The Long Run.

Hopefully others will follow, as I just can't see how any of the other albums voted for thus far deserve to be voted off before this one.

[Wildthyme]

Well the only way for me to decide which album to vote for is to choose the one I listen to the fewest number of songs from. And while three of the songs on this album are among my favorites the rest have never done much for me and it is the one album I do not own a copy of or have any particular desire to. My vote this round goes to On the Border.

[Windeagle]

So, it is with much confusion and dismay that I cast my vote for the weakest of all the Eagles albums, the one that pretty much dissappointed most Eagles fans around the world when it came out in 1979.
I vote to remove The Long Run.

The Long Run is the other album that I have not replaced on CD and for me, it was a toss-up. TLR edged out Eagles LP by a hair.

And I'm with you on Desperado. Love, love, love that album! I wish I could find a bootleg somewhere of one of the shows where they played the album in its entirety. What a concert that would have been!

[WalshFan88]

I love the Long Run. A few of their biggest hits were on this album. Heartache Tonight, The Long Run, In The City, I Can't Tell You Why, Those Shoes, etc. There are some stinkers on here but IMO there are a LOT more stinkers on Desperado. Different strokes for different folks I guess. TLR is probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite Eagles album. I go back and forth between On The Border and The Long Run for 2nd favorite album. Depends what mood I'm in.

[Freypower]

I love The Long Run too, and to say that it 'disappointed most Eagles fans' is a huge overstatement.

I have said this before; this is just a game & everybody's preferences are valid for each person.

[Freypower]

The Long Run is the other album that I have not replaced on CD and for me, it was a toss-up. TLR edged out Eagles LP by a hair.

And I'm with you on Desperado. Love, love, love that album! I wish I could find a bootleg somewhere of one of the shows where they played the album in its entirety. What a concert that would have been!

Correct me if I am wrong but I have no knowledge of them every having played the entire Desperado album in its entirety. I think I would have read about it somewhere if they had done so.

[luvthelighthouse]

The problem w/TLR is that the bad songs are bad and the good songs are great!

I find that, to me, there are five great songs and five, that if I never heard again... I would be just fine with!

Desperado is a showcase of vocals so true and pure.

OTTN - Great Title track, however, again great songs and equally bad songs (pretty uneven)

Eagles LP, raw and fun

OTB - I always think I dislike this album, but really, I just dislike the title track!

HC - Awesome, although again... not a huge fan of the title track, BUT, it's been growing on my since we played the all star survivor.

LROOE - Made me explore the band, find out who they were and made me fall in love with them. I had no clue they were the guys that sang so many of the songs I loved!

Not a fan of many live albums ...

[whitcap]

Correct me if I am wrong but I have no knowledge of them every having played the entire Desperado album in its entirety. I think I would have read about it somewhere if they had done so.

They did it once:


June 21, 1973 Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, CA The Eagles perform the album Desperado in sequence as their set.

http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/deliverin/MEISNER/randyconcerts.htm

[Freypower]

Thanks for that, whitcap. Interesting.

[timfan]

I vote for On the Border. It is my least fav of all the Eagles albums with only one song I would call a favourite.

[EaglesKiwi]

I vote for Eagles Live.

I'm another person who just loves the whole Desperado album.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well - it's great to see so much concensus in the game ... I just KNEW everyone was going to agree about these albums. :lie: :wink: Now, before I even begin the rest of my post, I always preface my comments by saying that there is no bad Eagles album as far as I'm concerned - I love 'em all. :thumbsup:

For me, I agree with Soda's comments that the live albums should be the first to be eliminated from this game. Even though I love them both, especially Eagles Live, I would rather see the albums of original material duke it out for the order of finish in the game.

Out of the seven studio albums, my personal opinion is that the Eagles LP is the weakest overall. To me, about half of the album is relatively unspectacular. However, as others have mentioned, I think One of These Nights and The Long Run are pretty uneven as well. It's a pretty close call for me, but I guess I llike The Long Run best out of the three.

I think it is always interesting that there seems to be this natural divide in the Eagles' fan community between the band's early country rock music and the later more rockin' sound. To me, I love and appreciate all of their styles and am glad they chose the path they did. The fact that they were able to do every type of music from blue grass to hard rock, and just about everything in between, and do it all at such a high level, is partly why they are the great legendary band that they are, IMHO.

[Topkat]

When is this round over? I don't know if I have the stomach to endure this game. Seeing some of the comments on my favorite albums is getting to me!:weep:

[Windeagle]

They did it once:



http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/deliverin/MEISNER/randyconcerts.htm

Thanks, Whitcap. I knew I read that somewhere, but couldn't remember where. I didn't realize it was only one show though. Oh, to have been there...

[Windeagle]

When is this round over? I don't know if I have the stomach to endure this game. Seeing some of the comments on my favorite albums is getting to me!:weep:


Don't let it get to you, TK :). Nobody is right or wrong and everyone likes what they like. Like Dreamer said, that's why the band is so good. They've played just about every style imaginable at some point in their careers, and each style clicks with some fans and turns others off. The game's all in good fun. Don't leave! :)

[whitcap]

I vote for Long Road Out of Eden

[Ive always been a dreamer]

When is this round over? I don't know if I have the stomach to endure this game. Seeing some of the comments on my favorite albums is getting to me!:weep:

TK – Each round ends at 8:00 p.m. EST on the second day after it starts. Although, we would like for all of our members to love this game, we recognize that it’s not for everyone. The objective of the game is to generate some discussion about the songs or, in this case, albums, and to have fun. We certainly don’t wish this game to cause anyone to have ulcers. So, I hope you’ll stick around, but if you find that it’s more stressful than fun, it may be best not to participate.

Now, for my vote – As I said earlier, I am pulling for the two live albums to be eliminated first and it looks like one of them is going without my vote. Therefore, I am going to vote strategically to even things up a bit.

I cast my vote for One of These Nights.

[UK TimFan]

I know I'm going to make everyone go :jawdrop:with my vote.

I'm still not quite sure of how to work out which is my most favourite album, but based on the fact that I would skip 5 out of the 8 tracks on this one my vote this time goes to 'Hotel California'.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

The first album to be eliminated from Eagles Album Survivor is Eagles Live. “Eagle Live”, you may have a Heartache Tonight cause life wasn’t too good to you in this game. You weren’t able to take it to the limit, so it’s time for you to leave the island immediately.

Votes
Eagles Live – 7
Desperado – 4
Hell Freezes Over – 3
Eagles – 2
On the Border – 2
Long Road Out of Eden – 2
The Long Run –1
One of These Nights – 1
Hotel California – 1

Vote Breakdown
Eagles Live – Freypower
Eagles Live – The Disco Strangler
Eagles Live – Tori
Eagles Live – luvthelighthouse
Eagles Live – AzEaglesFan
Eagles Live – Koala
Eagles Live – EaglesKiwi
Desperado – TimothyBFan
Desperado – EagleLady
Desperado – WalshFan88
Desperado – Topkat
Hell Freezes Over – GlennLover
Hell Freezes Over – sodascouts
Hell Freezes Over – Brooke
Eagles – EaglesFanatic
Eagles – Windeagle
The Long Run – BBKron
On the Border – WildThyme
On the Border – timfan
Long Road Out of Eden – Shadowland07
Long Road Out of Eden – whitcap
One of These Nights – Ive always been a dreamer
Hotel California – UKTimFan

Albums eliminated:
Eagles Live 11/19

Albums remaining:
Eagles
Desperado
On the Border
One of These Nights
Hotel California
The Long Run
Hell Freezes Over
Long Road Out of Eden


Voting for Round 2 begins now.

[WalshFan88]

Desperado

[Freypower]

I vote for Hell Freezes Over. I can't vote for my least favourite studio album before a live album.

[Wildthyme]

Once again I have to vote for On the Border to be eliminated...

[EaglesKiwi]

To me, I love and appreciate all of their styles and am glad they chose the path they did. The fact that they were able to do every type of music from blue grass to hard rock, and just about everything in between, and do it all at such a high level, is partly why they are the great legendary band that they are, IMHO.
Very well put, Dreamer!!!

[Koala]

Hmmmmmmmm, I cast my vote for Hell Freezes Over

[WalshFan88]

As far as the voting Live Albums off before Studio Albums, normally I'd TOTALLY agree. But I have to say, when you have an album like Desperado, for me, I prefer listening to the live albums (especially...sniff...Eagles Live!) and prefer them in general! :( That said I think HFO and Desperado should be the next to go...

[Windeagle]

I'm sad that Eagles Live was the first to go, but the tribe has spoken. Normally, I don't engage in strategic voting, but in an attempt to save Desperado, I'll vote for Hell Freezes Over this time.

[Topkat]

Oh, no This is what I mean when I get upset over it, HFO is one of my favorite Eagles album.
This round I vote again for DESPERADO

[Victim of Love]

On the Border

[timfan]

Well this is a tough one.. the Desperado album has two of my favourite songs on it (Tequila Sunrise and Desperado) but HFO has many great songs including the amazing live versions of Tequila Sunrise and Desperado! Therefore I vote for Desperado to be the next album eliminated.

[TimothyBFan]

So, it is with much confusion and dismay that I cast my vote for the weakest of all the Eagles albums, the one that pretty much dissappointed most Eagles fans around the world when it came out in 1979.
I vote to remove The Long Run.


I believe that may be your assumption. Well this is one fan that was EXTREMELY happy when this album came out and I LOVED every freakin' song on it, including what some here have called "the stinkers"! That's right, I LOVED Disco Strangler, Freaks and Teenage Jail!!! I never skip a song on this one. And I don't mind telling anyone who doesn't already know, it will be my top pick in this game, tho I doubt it will get that far.

As for the live albums.... I'm like most here, I usually do not care for live albums by any artist but the exception is the Eagles. I guess it's another testament to the fact that they sound as good live as recorded.

I will stick with my vote for the first round and vote for Desperado.

[Shadowland07]

I vote for Long Road Out of Eden. Least favorite album, Desperado is a much stronger album.

[Tori]

I'm gonna have to go with Desperado. I love HFO too much!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Even though I enjoy listening to all Eagles albums, Hell Freezes Over is the one I listen to least. I like it a lot, but I think it lacks energy and as has already been mentioned, it is too heavy with Henley solo material to me. Not that I don't love Don's solo stuff, but this is supposed to be an Eagles album. When I compare the songs that appear on both live albums, I prefer the more energetic version on Eagles Live to HFO without exception.

And for those of us who think it's way too early for Desperado to go down, it looks like it's time to try to form a coalition to save it. If the votes continue to get split, Desperado is in real danger since it will probably only take 6 or 7 votes to eliminate an album in this game. So I urge the remaining voters to band together ...

SAVE DESPERADO!

VOTE FOR HELL FREEZES OVER!!!

[Henley Honey]

Sorry, Dreamer. My vote goes to Desperado.

HFO has always been my favorite. I'm sure their coming back as a group was a delicate and fragile operation and I'll be forever grateful they managed to put their egos and big personalities aside, and do what they do best -- make music.

For many reasons, but mainly because it contains a magnificent version of Wasted Time -- a version that IMHO is Don Henley's "masterpiece", I cast my vote to save HFO.

[EaglesFanatic]

Once again, I'll go ahead and vote for Eagles LP.

[EaglesKiwi]

I'm struggling with this one. Love all the albums, and HFO is incredibly special to me as that's where it all started - but, it was the DVD not the album that got me into the Eagles.

I actually don't listen to the HFO album very much because I play the DVD so often. As just an album - it doesn't have the same sanctity to me.

Does that make any sense at all?

Will hold off voting for right now.

[Topkat]

Please, I need to SAVE HELL FREEZES OVER The LIVE versions of these songs sound even better than the studio versions, (is that even POSSIBLE for a band???) YES, for the EAGLES IT IS!!
SAVE HFO

[luvthelighthouse]

All this discussion about HFO... I think I'm gonna put that one in the CD player right now! I was next on my hit list, but I'll give it a fair shot by listening again.

[sodascouts]

Oh my gosh! I am shocked and dismayed at this turn of events!

Desperado is a finely crafted concept album ahead of its time. It tells a story and, while you may not appreciate every single song on it, it is an artistic achievement.

There is very little artistic achievement in making a live album. You pull out the hits and play them. I loved the arrangements and it's historically significant, but to me there's no comparison.

Yes, there were four new songs, but three of them were solo project leftovers - a Frey/Tempchin tune; a Henley/Lynch tune; a Vale/Capaldi/Carrack song Felder recorded with Tim a few years earlier. Only "Get Over It" is truly fresh in that respect.

At the risk of sounding dismissive of a fine live album... and I do love HFO... that's rather lazy, wouldn't you agree?

I cast my vote for HELL FREEZES OVER and I beg others to do the same!!!!

[Topkat]

There were lots of concept albums way before Desperado. The British bands were doing them in 1969 & 70. To me this wasn't an artistic achievement. This album was a major let down for me. It was dull, & BORING. The only good songs were Deperado & Tequila Sunrise. This album has GOTTA GO!!!

DUMP DESPERADO

[Freypower]

I could not disagree more. The concept has stood the test of time because it isn't only about outlaws, it is really about a rock band but with the outlaw theme very cleverly used to convey the rock lifestyle (see in particular Certain Kind Of Fool). The music is a very subtle blend of country rock and straight out rock as well as a couple of timeless ballads. The songwriting talents of all four members are equallly strong, for perhaps the only time. I would only say that the title track has perhaps been elevated far too high in the band's canon by the band itself (that is my personal opinion only).

Just because Desperado wasn't the first concept album doesn't mean that it doesn't have any artistic merit. I don't see that at all. While it is not my favourite Eagles album I honestly don't think it deserves to be voted off this early, before an album that is remakes of old songs and a couple of new tracks with only one original.

I would urge people who have not yet voted to give this some thought and remember that we are voting for the ALBUM. You may love the HFO DVD but it is the album we are talking about. And though it was great to see the band back together sentiment shouldn't be the deciding factor here, should it?

[TimothyBFan]

I'm sorry but I do think HFO is worth saving also!! I agree that sentiment alone shouldn't be a deciding factor but I truly believe it should be a factor. There are a lot of fans that had never heard or paid attention to the Eagles prior to this album dvd release. And even to a long time fan like myself, it meant the world to me to see them back on a stage and to hear that album of it. I love every song on it rather they be new, old or "solo project leftovers". I have no problem at all with that. So what---it's the freakin' Eagles singing every last note for the first time in over a decade!! And I agree that they sound as good and sometimes better than the albums.

As for Desperado, for me it's not at all about it being a concept album--I could care less about that. To me it was just a let down after Eagles LP that had so much great stuff like PEF, TIE, CAN, WW, etc... Desperado just didn't have the punch I expect from the Eagles. I like TS and Certain Kind Of Fool but to be honest, that was about it for me. To this day, it is my least favorite album and I cannot remember the last time I've listened to it. I even skip the songs from it on any of the compilation works. Just not my cup of tea.

[EagleLady]

I'll vote for Desperado again

[Topkat]

Well, I peacefully disagree with you, Freypower on this one
HELL FREEZES OVER & I mean the ALBUM , not the DVD, stands on it's own, without the visuals. To me this is the best lineup of their musical talent. Here Joe, Tim & Don Felder are doing some songs that were done before they were in the band & to me they are BETTER versions of the older songs. The new songs sound fresh, the old songs sound REVITALIZED.

Much of DESPERADO was written by other writers, not the Eagles. JD Souther, Jackson Browne, David Blue, & Tom Nixon all have songwriting credits here, so to say this was equally strong songwriting of all 4 members is an overstatement. The artistic merit was not all theirs.
The album was also a commercial flop, never breaking the top 40. Many thought it was too country. Overall, a snooze....

SAVE HFO

[luvthelighthouse]

I vote for Hell Freezes Over.

Recycled material, too Don heavy...

At least Desperado was thought provoked and original.

[sodascouts]

True, they worked with collaborators on Desperado (as they worked with collaborators on HFO, and continue to work with collaborators to this day), but on a lot of the later albums Don and Glenn did most of the heavy lifting in terms of songwriting if you look at the numbers. By contrast, on Desperado, all four members contributed fairly equally to the songwriting even if they did so with co-writers. There is only one cover.

HFO is essentially a Greatest Hits album with some new stuff thrown in - you're basically keeping the Very Best of the Eagles over the originals. Of course you're going to like most of the songs on it! It's some of their biggest hits played live! That's why I encourage people to look beyond that.

Hey, not everyone likes Desperado. I get that. However, for those of you on the fence, I hope you do consider such things. Even if you don't like Desperado, at least it's original.

Also, what topkat said reminded me of another factor I think people should consider - the inclusion of a solo song. It has "New York Minute" on it. Do we want an album with solo material beating out an album with only Eagles material?

[Brooke]

I am also shocked about all the votes for Desperado so early in the game. I can only echo what Soda and Fp have said about it. I love nearly every song on it and love the story.

I also love HFO, their get back together album. I dearly love the dvd. But after all, it's a repeat of most songs and I rarely listen to it.

I vote for Hell Freezes Over and urge others to do the same. Save the original material for later.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I love HFO because of what it stands for. The Eagles getting back together and staying together. Just as important, Glenn and Don writing songs together again. For that, I'll always love it. I understand they were testing the waters, testing just whether or not getting back together would work. Perhaps, even, intentionally limiting how much time they spent together, just in case. However, if this had been an important LP for them, they would have worked on more original material. Instead, they focused on the tour and hence the DVD.
As I once told Soda, the guy I thought I was seeing at the time told me he had tickets, so I didn't buy any. Then he took someone else. Because of that, I still haven't seen the DVD. Between the horrid feelings surrounding the tour, the fact there's solo songs on it, and the fact that this LP has never seemed all that important to the Eagles themselves (as I see it), I VOTE FOR HFO TO BE KICKED OFF EAGLES ISLAND.

[Topkat]

Why would you say HFO is not important to the Eagles! Are you kidding me? That was their reunion after 14 years. It was VERY IMPORTANT to both them & the fans.
Just because NY Minute is on this album, is no reason to downgrade it's value!
This album brought in many NEW Eagles fans, & for that reason alone, it deserves to STAY.......

SAVE HFO

[sodascouts]

Glenn himself said that the new songs were included in order to make the reunion tour more "legitimate." That's not a secret. It's on the freaking DVD.

Here's Glenn's attitude regarding a reunion in 1992: "I felt that the most important ingredient in doing something like putting the Eagles back together for a period of time was that there be new material, so that we wouldn’t just be slapping the band back together [...] I thought if [Don and I] could get together and have it together enough to write a couple songs, get in the studio, and record them, and have everybody on the same page, it was not out of the realm of possibility that we might for one summer go out there and blitz a bunch of baseball stadiums and do it."

Thus, it's apparent that the new songs were included with the intention that they would "legitimize" a brief and highly lucrative tour, after which the Eagles would go their separate ways. Obviously, things changed, but that was the intent when it was recorded.

With Desperado, the band was taking a huge risk. For HFO, the only risk they took was whether or not they would be able to get along well enough to complete the project.

They knew they would make buckets of money with HFO. They didn't know that with Desperado - and as topkat pointed out the album originally flopped, although with time it has gained critical respect - but there's no way you can argue they were taking more of a artistic risk with HFO! I suppose they risked only making tens of millions instead of hundreds of millions.... that would have been embarrassing, eh? ;)

Again, I understand not everyone considers taking artistic risks important - my post is aimed towards those who do.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, as close as this round is, I don't have to wait to vote as I usually do. My vote isn't going to change this round no matter what. There has been some good debate going on between the merits of Hell Freezes Over and Desperado. I don't think it's any surprise that I endorse everything that has been said about Desperado. I absolutely LOVE that album. One other thing I'll add is that I know some folks say it's too country for their tastes. Now, any of you that have been around on this board for a while probably knows that I'm not a big fan of country music. To me, when I listen to the album, I just don't get a country vibe. It's definitely much more country rock to these ears. Therefore, for me, it's not even close about which album should be eliminated this round ...

I cast my vote for Hell Freezes Over.

[BBKron]

Oh my gosh! I am shocked and dismayed at this turn of events!

Desperado is a finely crafted concept album ahead of its time. It tells a story and, while you may not appreciate every single song on it, it is an artistic achievement.

You said it, Soda. This is quite discouraging. Although I can certainly understand those that love HFO and don't think it should be voted off yet, as Soda said, there really is no comparison between a live album and one of the iconic pillars of the Eagles music, Desperado. To me, it is their crowning achievement, and certainly one that will have a lasting effect in the music world far beyond what any live album could. It seems so bizarre that we are even having this conversation. Regardless of your opinion of the 'early' or 'country-rock' style of the music, there is no question that Desperado (in its entirety) is one of the cornerstones of the Eagles legend. Yes, it may not have been as successful as other albums, but that is because they stuck to their artistic vision and made a compelling concept album that didn't quite fit into the popular music of the time. It is a remarkable achievement, not only one of the best and fully realized concept albums, but one of the very best albums of any kind.

So, even if this is not your favorite musical style for the Eagles, it seems any Eagles fan should recognize the artistry and importance of this album within the context of their musical career. Certainly, Hotel California and Desperado are the 2 most iconic of all their albums, and one would hope, worthy of hanging around longer than the 2nd round of this elimination.

Thus, in order to SAVE DESPERADO, I must cast my vote to eliminate Hell Freezes Over!

[Topkat]

Who cares if the album was a RISK? What does that have to do with anything? The album (Desperado) wasn't good. They were under contract to produce an album, so that's what they did. What is the risk?? By the way Geffen dumped them after this album.

And what does this have to do with how much money they made? Of course they are going to make more on an album made 20 years later! That's to be expected. The question is; Which is the better album???? To me that's not even a contest? HFO is not just a greatest hits album, it shows that the Eagles are still a relevant band 20 plus years later, with some different band members. Even though it's a Live album, & only has a few new songs, those new songs far surpass the songs on Desperado!

Why is there so much flack on HFO??? I don't get it. This is the album I listen to the most. A strong variety of old & new songs that all sound AMAZING LIVE!!!
SAVE HFO, PLEEEEESE!!
VOTE FOR DESPERADO

[Henley Honey]

Its the versions of the songs on HFO that I love.
Listen to Wasted Time HFO vs Greatest Hits version
Listen to Tequilla Sunrise HFO vs Desperado or Very Best of version
Compare any song done on HFO vs another album. HFO outshines them. Every time. The combination of live vocals, arrangements and overall perfection of performance is what does it for me. I stand by my vote!

[Topkat]

Its the versions of the songs on HFO that I love.
Listen to Wasted Time HFO vs Greatest Hits version
Listen to Tequilla Sunrise HFO vs Desperado or Very Best of version
Compare any song done on HFO vs another album. HFO outshines them. Every time. The combination of live vocals, arrangements and overall perfection of performance is what does it for me. I stand by my vote!

Thank You HH, My feelings ExACTLY

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It goes without saying that I own everything they've ever put out, and in multiple formats. I've listened to HFO less than five times. When I have listened to it, it's the only one of theirs I've ever skipped over songs. As solo songs go, NY Minute is my least favorite of Don's and PMAIAR is not a favorite of mine, either.
I just want to state loudly and clearly that I do not dislike HFO!! I don't mean to give it 'flack'! It's just that when I run an Eagles marathon of non-best-of CDs and the CD player runs out of room, HFO is the one that stays on the shelf.

[TimothyBFan]

I rarely argue my case in these survivor games because I just vote with my heart and don't expect anyone to absolutely love the same songs, albums, etc as I do. I always read all the arguments for other's choices and have been known to be persuaded a bit. But in this game, I'm just having a really hard time understanding the arguments against HFO, and why it should be voted off any faster than the others, (Desperado in this round, it seems).

Soda, don't think I'm picking on you, your post just happens to be the last one here that makes some arguments, so I'm quoting you here.


True, they worked with collaborators on Desperado (as they worked with collaborators on HFO, and continue to work with collaborators to this day), but on a lot of the later albums Don and Glenn did most of the heavy lifting in terms of songwriting if you look at the numbers. By contrast, on Desperado, all four members contributed fairly equally to the songwriting even if they did so with co-writers. There is only one cover.

I didn't understand the argument here, so I went researching. Since the arguments this round seem to be just Desperado vs. HFO, here's the tracklist with writing credits--Italic=non-Eagle:

Desperado

Doolin'-Dalton- Frey/Souther/Henley/Browne
Twenty-One- Leadon
Out Of Control- Frey/Henley/Nixon
Tequila Sunrise-Frey/Henley
Desperado- Frey/Henley
Certain Kind Of Fool- Frey/Meisner/Henley
Doolin'-Dalton (instrumental)- Frey/Souther/Henley/Browne
Outlaw Man- Blue
Saturday Night- Frey/Henley/Meisner/Leadon
Bitter Creek-Leadon
Doolin'-Dalton/Deperado (Reprise)- Frey/Henley/Souther/Browne

Hell Freezes Over

Get Over It-Frey/Henley
Love Will Keep Us Alive- Vale/Capaldi/Carrack
Girl From Yesterday-Frey/Tempchin
Learn To Be Still- Henley/Lynch
Tequila Sunrise-Frey/Henley
Hotal California- Frey/Henley/Felder
Wasted Time-Frey/Henley
Pretty Maids All In A Row- Walsh/Vitale
I Can't Tell You Why-Frey/Schmit/Henley
New York Minute-Henley/Kortchmar/Winding
The Last Resort-Frey/Henley
Take It Easy- Frey/Browne
In The City- Walsh/DeVorzon
Life In The Fast Lane-Frey/Walsh/Henley
Desperado-Frey/Henley


When I put it out there like that, I'm seeing that for the most part, they both are about equal with non Eagle collaboration, especially if you consider that HFO has 4 more songs than Desperado. Plus, each album only has 1 song that is strictly written without any Eagles--(Outlaw Man on Desperado & LWKUA on HFO). So to me, that's a non issue when voting.


HFO is essentially a Greatest Hits album with some new stuff thrown in - you're basically keeping the Very Best of the Eagles over the originals. Of course you're going to like most of the songs on it! It's some of their biggest hits played live! That's why I encourage people to look beyond that.

I get it's basically a Greatest Hits album--one of the reasons I love it so much, BUT IT'S ALL DONE LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To me it's not the same--they are different versions from the studio albums, that makes it totally different, for me, anyways. And BONUS----it's all the songs I LOVE!!! Win/Win!!


Hey, not everyone likes Desperado. I get that. However, for those of you on the fence, I hope you do consider such things. Even if you don't like Desperado, at least it's original.

Again I get that--it's original but again, as I've said many times in the past, I could care less who wrote the song, I just want to like the finished product once it's done. Does that make sense?


Also, what topkat said reminded me of another factor I think people should consider - the inclusion of a solo song. It has "New York Minute" on it. Do we want an album with solo material beating out an album with only Eagles material?

Again, I agree to disagree. New York Minute on The End Of The Innocence album was the solo song. New York Minute on HFO is sung by the Eagles. And before you all jump on me because I've been one of those that has stated many times that when I see an Eagles concert, I want to see an Eagles concert not a Henley or Walsh solo show, I'm just trying to make a point, when it's sung on HFO it's the Eagles with Henley on lead just as Hotel California is or Learn To Be Still is, etc....

Now that I've completely picked poor Soda's post apart (I LOVE YOU SODA!) I hope I've made a bit of sense in favor of HFO or at least made it seem equal to Desperado.

[sodascouts]

Even though it's a Live album, & only has a few new songs, those new songs far surpass the songs on Desperado!

You're entitled to your opinion, but it's quite telling that they don't perform any of those songs live anymore. By contrast, "Desperado" is their closer, and you can hear the entire arena singing along. Methinks you wouldn't be hearing too many singing along if they were playing "Learn to Be Still"....


Now that I've completely picked poor Soda's post apart (I LOVE YOU SODA!) I hope I've made a bit of sense in favor of HFO or at least made it seem equal to Desperado.

Willie, I appreciate your well-informed response to my post, but the things you dismiss are important to me. I care about artistic merit and originality. As I said before, I realize not everyone values the same things in an album. I'm just hoping to get people to think about it a bit.

(Love you too :hug: )

[sodascouts]

Willie, I want to explain the argument that you didn't understand.

You're including older material when judging HFO, which is part of the problem - this album is mostly reworking the past. I understand that you don't care about that, and that is one of the fundamental differences in our opinions.

In terms of NEW material, which is where I am focusing because that is where the artistic merit lies* - Desperado is an album where all of the members contribute songwriting-wise. Even though Glenn and Don have more songwriting credits, Bernie and Randy have songwriting credits on four songs. Creatively, the then-new material of Desperado is a band effort.

On the new material of HFO, the only Eagles who contributed to the songwriting were Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Timothy B. Schmit, Don Felder and Joe Walsh added exactly zero to that number.

BTW, Desperado's "Saturday Night" is the only song in the entire Eagles catalog that contains contributions from all four Eagles. That's representative of what I'm talking about here.

*I realize skillful music arrangement is its own art, but there's no getting around the fact that the arrangements are still reworkings of the past.

[whitcap]

I vote for Hell Freezes Over.

I adore Desperado and all of the songs on it. It's one of my top two favorite Eagles albums.

HFO only contains three songs from the early days (Take it Easy, Desperado, and Tequila Sunrise), nothing from On the Border or One of These Nights, only Joe and Timothy's songs from The Long Run and 5 songs from HC which, of the albums they put out in the 70s, is the one I like the least. I like the new songs that were on HFO but I just don't listen to the album that much.

[TimothyBFan]

You're including older material when judging HFO, which is part of the problem - this album is mostly reworking the past. I understand that you don't care about that, and that is one of the fundamental differences in our opinions.

In terms of NEW material, which is where I am focusing because that is where the artistic merit lies* - Desperado is an album where all of the members contribute songwriting-wise. Even though Glenn and Don have more songwriting credits, Bernie and Randy have songwriting credits on four songs. Creatively, the then-new material of Desperado is a band effort.

On the new material of HFO, the only Eagles who contributed to the songwriting were Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Timothy B. Schmit, Don Felder and Joe Walsh added exactly zero to that number.



Ok, I got ya! I wasn't thinking just the new stuff but all of it. And I understand how that is important to you in making your choices and it isn't to me.

Like we've said, we all have our own agendas on how we eliminate the songs from these games and no one persons is more important or more correct than the next. That's why it's always so interesting to me to read all the arguments for and against the contestants.

[Henley Honey]

In terms of NEW material, which is where I am focusing because that is where the artistic merit lies* - Desperado is an album where all of the members contribute songwriting-wise. Even though Glenn and Don have more songwriting credits, Bernie and Randy have songwriting credits on four songs. Creatively, the then-new material of Desperado is a band effort.

On the new material of HFO, the only Eagles who contributed to the songwriting were Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Timothy B. Schmit, Don Felder and Joe Walsh added exactly zero to that number.

*I realize skillful music arrangement is its own art, but there's no getting around the fact that the arrangements are still reworkings of the past.

*Is totally subjective. Artistic merit lies in the ears of the beholder. We can agree to disagree. But consider the fact: Just because TBS, DF and JW "added zero to the songwriting on HFO" that does not negate the extraordinary contribution they made to the album vocally, musically and artistically as a whole. They absolutely contributed creatively to the "band effort". I think, in some ways, they contributed more than GF & DH.

[Freypower]

*Is totally subjective. Artistic merit lies in the ears of the beholder. We can agree to disagree. But consider the fact: Just because TBS, DF and JW "added zero to the songwriting on HFO" that does not negate the extraordinary contribution they made to the album vocally, musically and artistically as a whole. They absolutely contributed creatively to the "band effort". I think, in some ways, they contributed more than GF & DH.

Can you please explain to me how Tim, Joe & Felder contributed more than Don & Glenn to HFO? Felder did the Spanish rearrangement of the beginning of HC, which I love, but other than that played his normal guitar solos. Tim did a new song which is one of my least favourites and ICTYW, which is hardly groundbreaking. I do like his bass on NYM but he is playing an existing part. As for Joe, he does good versions of PMAIAR & HMTTN, but along with Felder for a lot of it he doesn't have a great deal to do (I don't want to bring the DVD into this but it becomes rather obvious there). And let's be honest, Glenn doesn't do a great deal either. Most of it is all about Don. If Don is your favourite Eagle, this album is manna from heaven, but for those of us who WERE expecting all Eagles to be reasonably prominent, it is a disappointment.

Also, in answer to Willie, not all of HFO is live. The four new songs are studio recordings.

[Topkat]

On the new material of HFO, the only Eagles who contributed to the songwriting were Don Henley and Glenn Frey. Timothy B. Schmit, Don Felder and Joe Walsh added exactly zero to that number.

Granted there isn't a lot of new material on HFO, but please give credit where due here. Tim Schmit, Don Felder & Joe Walsh have songwriting credits on other songs from the album. Their contribution is in the vocals & musicianship on the entire album.
HFO is a masterpiece of past and new material. The old songs are redone with superior quality than the originals!



You're entitled to your opinion, but it's quite telling that they don't perform any of those songs live anymore. By contrast, "Desperado" is their closer, and you can hear the entire arena singing along. Methinks you wouldn't be hearing too many singing along if they were playing "Learn to Be Still"....


Yes, but Desperado also appears on HFO, as does Tequila Sunrise, the ONLY other good song on Desperado LP. Tell me What other songs on Desperado are EVER DONE LIVE???? That would be ZERO

I'm saying, in general & overall, HFO has better material than Desperado.
And, I say it's high time they ended with a different song, getting really tired of that so predictable ending to every show!!!

[Freypower]

Who cares if the album was a RISK? What does that have to do with anything? The album (Desperado) wasn't good. They were under contract to produce an album, so that's what they did. What is the risk?? By the way Geffen dumped them after this album.

And what does this have to do with how much money they made? Of course they are going to make more on an album made 20 years later! That's to be expected. The question is; Which is the better album???? To me that's not even a contest? HFO is not just a greatest hits album, it shows that the Eagles are still a relevant band 20 plus years later, with some different band members. Even though it's a Live album, & only has a few new songs, those new songs far surpass the songs on Desperado!

Why is there so much flack on HFO??? I don't get it. This is the album I listen to the most. A strong variety of old & new songs that all sound AMAZING LIVE!!!
SAVE HFO, PLEEEEESE!!
VOTE FOR DESPERADO

Desperado wasn't good IN YOUR OPINION. Many of us beg to differ. I believe that only one of the new songs surpasses the Desperado songs, and that is Get Over It.

[Freypower]

Granted there isn't a lot of new material on HFO, but please give credit where due here. Tim Schmit, Don Felder & Joe Walsh have songwriting credits on other songs from the album. Their contribution is in the vocals & musicianship on the entire album.
HFO is a masterpiece of past and new material. The old songs are redone with superior quality than the originals!

This is purely subjective; I don't agree that the HFO versions of the songs are superior, with the possible exception of Pretty Maids All In A Row. Certainly Take It Easy isn't, for example. Neither is Life In The Fast Lane. But we could do this all day & I don't intend to do so.

[Freypower]

Yes, but Desperado also appears on HFO, as does Tequila Sunrise, the ONLY other good song on Desperado LP. Tell me What other songs on Desperado are EVER DONE LIVE???? That would be ZERO

I'm saying, in general & overall, HFO has better material than Desperado.
And, I say it's high time they ended with a different song, getting really tired of that so predictable ending to every show!!!

I agree with this; I believe Take It Easy should be the final song.

I don't know how to answer the bit about 'they don't do the other songs live'. They don't do any On The Border songs either except for one. Does that also make OTB a bad album? They can't play everything (although I think it is high time they varied the setlist).

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I don't know how to answer the bit about 'they don't do the other songs live'. They don't do any On The Border songs either except for one. Does that also make OTB a bad album? They can't play everything (although I think it is high time they varied the setlist).

According to Joe, they will be varying it for next tour and I can't wait!

[Tori]

Just gonna jump in here and say wow... there's some heated arguments going on here! It's making me kind of regret voting for Desperado, but it's not like I can change that now... It is interesting to read your opinions, though.

[The Disco Strangler]

This is getting tougher. I'll have to vote Hell Freezes Over.

[TimothyBFan]

*Is totally subjective. Artistic merit lies in the ears of the beholder. We can agree to disagree. But consider the fact: Just because TBS, DF and JW "added zero to the songwriting on HFO" that does not negate the extraordinary contribution they made to the album vocally, musically and artistically as a whole. They absolutely contributed creatively to the "band effort". I think, in some ways, they contributed more than GF & DH.

I agreed completely with you up till the last few words. I don't feel they may have created more but definitely were huge contributions!!


Also, in answer to Willie, not all of HFO is live. The four new songs are studio recordings.

I'm aware of that but people keep bringing up the fact that it's pretty much a "live" album, and that it's the same stuff we've heard before, which happens to be the stuff that is live on the album, so that is what I was focusing on.


Desperado wasn't good IN YOUR OPINION. Many of us beg to differ. I believe that only one of the new songs surpasses the Desperado songs, and that is Get Over It.


This is purely subjective; I don't agree that the HFO versions of the songs are superior, with the possible exception of Pretty Maids All In A Row. Certainly Take It Easy isn't, for example. Neither is Life In The Fast Lane. But we could do this all day & I don't intend to do so.

I don't intend to do it all day either (tho it feels as if I have already) but I don't think it "Certainly" isn't. I happen to really like that version of LITFL, but I respect the fact that you don't think it is superior.

Again, it's all subjective and we each have our opinions.

[Glennsallnighter]

I'm reading all the interesting arguments in favour and against HFO (and Desperado indeed). While I take them on board, and also the fact that Glenn :heart: features on so few tracks I have a bit of a soft spot for it based on personal experience. In October 2006 I bought a new ipod. I only had the 'Very Best Of' Cd and I put it on straight away. I was able tp download HFO from legal sounds and put that on as well. On 5th November Chris was involved in an accident where he broke his arm and I had to stay in the Hospital overnight with him while he awaited surgery the next day. I played HFO over and over again that night, and to be honest it literally helped me through the night! I think I fell asleep about 4am to TGFY!

So while its NOT my favourite I'm just a little reluctant to vote HFo off just yet.

Its a difficult survivor, because there are songs on ALL the albums that I just love. And some I could do without nestled among my favourites.

Anyway, this round I vote off 'The Long Run'

[Henley Honey]

Can you please explain to me how Tim, Joe & Felder contributed more than Don & Glenn to HFO? Felder did the Spanish rearrangement of the beginning of HC, which I love, but other than that played his normal guitar solos. Tim did a new song which is one of my least favourites and ICTYW, which is hardly groundbreaking. I do like his bass on NYM but he is playing an existing part. As for Joe, he does good versions of PMAIAR & HMTTN, but along with Felder for a lot of it he doesn't have a great deal to do (I don't want to bring the DVD into this but it becomes rather obvious there). And let's be honest, Glenn doesn't do a great deal either. Most of it is all about Don. If Don is your favourite Eagle, this album is manna from heaven, but for those of us who WERE expecting all Eagles to be reasonably prominent, it is a disappointment.

Also, in answer to Willie, not all of HFO is live. The four new songs are studio recordings.


First of all, I said that they might have contributed more. I believe that. That's JMHO. I'm talking about being the smaller part of the greater good -- the little engine - as it were. I'm not talking about who wrote what or who sang more songs or who got paid more. I don't care. That's the business side of it. And let's not forget -- at it's core -- at it's base -- The Eagles are first and foremost a business. That's an absolute. I'm talking about an extraordinary group of men who could have gone into extinction -- but chose to prevail. I'm talking about a live album that so moved me -- that still so moves me -- Its gonna take more than a few "naysayers" to shut me down. Just sayin . . . . . .

[Topkat]

I'm done fighting this out. Looks like HFO is on the way off the island. I did my best, & I won't be fighting for any other album like I did for this one, but the tribe rules, so it is what it is. :thud:

[Henley Honey]

Just gonna jump in here and say wow... there's some heated arguments going on here! It's making me kind of regret voting for Desperado, but it's not like I can change that now... It is interesting to read your opinions, though.



I'm glad that you like our opinions but be truthful -- aren't you a little scared -- I know I am and I'm alot older than you. Oh well. Hang Tough!

[Tori]

I'm glad that you like our opinions but be truthful -- aren't you a little scared -- I know I am and I'm alot older than you. Oh well. Hang Tough!

Oh, yeah, it's definitely intimidating me! If HFO ends up getting eliminated, which it probably will, I won't vote off Desperado until way later. I've done some thinking, and I would rather have voted off HFO or another album. The actual concert means more to me, not as much the album.

[Henley Honey]

I'm done fighting this out. Looks like HFO is on the way off the island. I did my best, & I won't be fighting for any other album like I did for this one, but the tribe rules, so it is what it is. :thud:


I don't know -- for sure how you spell it -- ???
Wuuusssss??? If you believe . . . . keep fighting . . . . .
Sorry if that seems harsh. Beeotch from Queens . . . just sayin . . .

[TimothyBFan]

First of all, I said that they might have contributed more. I believe that. That's JMHO. I'm talking about being the smaller part of the greater good -- the little engine - as it were. I'm not talking about who wrote what or who sang more songs or who got paid more. I don't care. That's the business side of it. And let's not forget -- at it's core -- at it's base -- The Eagles are first and foremost a business. That's an absolute. I'm talking about an extraordinary group of men who could have gone into extinction -- but chose to prevail. I'm talking about a live album that so moved me -- that still so moves me -- Its gonna take more than a few "naysayers" to shut me down. Just sayin . . . . . .

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Amen my sister!!! And I DO believe that sentiment should play a factor in the way we vote!!!! JMO!!

[Glennsallnighter]

Yeah, I love the concert too, even if it is a bit Don-heavy! Still I take Glenn:heart: doing his thing in the background, amd boy is he HOT. But obviously we don't see that on the CD. Still, I love the 14 year vacation intro, and the 'Here's where it all started'.

[Topkat]

Quote from HH:

I don't know -- for sure how you spell it -- ???
Wuuusssss??? If you believe . . . . keep fighting . . . . .
Sorry if that seems harsh. Beeotch from Queens . . . just sayin . . .

It is a bit harsh, being that I'm on your side here, but there are already 11 votes for HFO to get the boot. I gave so many arguments to help keep it in the game, but everyone just shoots them down. I hate to argue, even though I am a Beeotch from Queens!!!!!

[Henley Honey]

Quote from HH:


It is a bit harsh, being that I'm on your side here, but there are already 11 votes for HFO to get the boot. I gave so many arguments to help keep it in the game, but everyone just shoots them down. I hate to argue, even though I am a Beeotch from Queens!!!!!


Ahh, I'm sorry TK. I didn't really mean to bust your chops -- I really am on your side. Listen -- the vote is the vote. What's in your heart is in your heart. No issue. No problem.

[UK TimFan]

HFO is not top of my 'favourites' list, so I felt no need to defend it, nor will a vote for it affect the outcome of this round, so once again based on the fact that I would skip 5 out of the 8 tracks on the album my vote this time goes to 'Hotel California'.

[Freypower]

HFO is not top of my 'favourites' list, so I felt no need to defend it, nor will a vote for it affect the outcome of this round, so once again based on the fact that I would skip 5 out of the 8 tracks on the album my vote this time goes to 'Hotel California'.

Would you mind letting us know which of the tracks on HC you skip?

[sodascouts]

After an intense round with lots of spirited debate, the tribe has spoken and the second album to be eliminated from Eagles Album Survivor is Hell Freezes Over. Too bad but I'm sure HFO will get over it in time! So, HFO, it's time for you to go. Please leave the island immediately.

Votes
Hell Freezes Over – 11
Desperado - 7
On the Border – 2
Eagles - 1
Hotel California – 1
The Long Run –1
Long Road Out of Eden – 1


Vote Breakdown
Hell Freezes Over - Freypower
Hell Freezes Over - Koala
Hell Freezes Over - Windeagle
Hell Freezes Over - sodascouts
Hell Freezes Over - luvthelighthouse
Hell Freezes Over - Brooke
Hell Freezes Over - VAisForEagleLovers
Hell Freezes Over - Ive always been a dreamer
Hell Freezes Over - BBKron
Hell Freezes Over - whitcap
Hell Freezes Over - The Disco Strangler
Desperado – WalshFan88
Desperado – Topkat
Desperado - timfan
Desperado – TimothyBFan
Desperado - Tori
Desperado - HenleyHoney
Desperado – EagleLady
On the Border - Wildthyme
On the Border - Victim of Love
Eagles - EaglesFanatic
Hotel California - UKTimFan
The Long Run - Glennsallnighter
Long Road Out of Eden - Shadowland07

Albums eliminated:
Eagles Live 11/19
Hell Freezes Over 11/21

Albums remaining:
Eagles
Desperado
On the Border
One of These Nights
Hotel California
The Long Run
Long Road Out of Eden


Voting for Round 3 begins now.

[UK TimFan]

Would you mind letting us know which of the tracks on HC you skip?
Before I go any further, I fully admit that I am weird, completely out of my skull, lacking in taste, not a true Eagles fan, etc, etc. :grin:
But my dislike for songs that I know many of you love is no different to other people not liking Bitter creek or any of the other songs which I love.

New kid in town, Life in the fast lane, Pretty maids all in a row, Try and love again, The last resort.

As I don't like those songs, I also skip them on other albums/DVDs if I can.

(I haven't counted Wasted time (reprise) as a track, which is why I say 5 out of 8.)

[Freypower]

Well, I hoped someone else would cast their vote first but as I'm here, I vote for One Of These Nights, which is my least favourite Eagles album and always has been. Bring on the debate.....

[Henley Honey]

Good for you, FP --jumping right in there with a big splash. I'm gonna have to give this some thought, though. I'm a little battle weary from the last round, but will live to debate another album!!

I'm glad we can all "put it out there" with no fear of repercussions or recriminations.

[sodascouts]

Well, it's getting harder!

I cast my vote for The Long Run.

It has some really terrific material on it, but those three stinkers... I can't get over how bad they are. When stinkers make up a third of the album, it needs to go.

NOTE: I realize not everyone thinks Teenage Jail, The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, and The Disco Strangler are stinkers. This is just my opinion - but for me at least, they are not up to Eagles standards and bring the whole album down despite the fact that there is indeed high-quality material surrounding them.

[WalshFan88]

Desperado

Wow, this feels like Déjà vu! ;)

[Tori]

I'm going to have to vote for The Long Run. It's probably always been my least favorite album, so I'll have to go with it.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

OK, I'm not sure why I feel this way. There are 7 CDs still in play and if my CD player has 6 slots (ignoring that Eden is two CDs), which one doesn't go in?

Eagles LP doesn't make my cut. I love PEF and TIE. I can do without Witchy Woman and the rest just aren't strong enough to make me give up listening to the other LPs.

I vote Eagles LP.

[timfan]

I'm going back to my prior vote... I vote for On the Border to be eliminated

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well - That was a very spirited debate in that last round, but now we are down to the seven studio albums of original material. I made no secret that this is what I hoped it would come down to. As I said earlier, out of these seven albums, three of them (Eagles, One of These Nights, and The Long Run) are very good albums although I think they are pretty uneven. For me, The Long Road Out of Eden and On the Border both are excellent albums with fairly consistent high quality songs. Then, there are the remaining two, Desperado and Hotel California, which I consider to be outstanding pieces of work. So that's the way I rank the studio albums, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's the way I'll vote in the game. :wink:

Right now, I'm guessing that Desperado will be the next album to be eliminated unless we can form another coalition. I considered calling for one, but we are so all over the place in our opinions about these albums that I'm not sure another coalition would work. Already in this round, six players have voted for five different albums, so I would have no idea what album to chose to attempt to form a coalition at this point. I guess we'll just have to wait for a few more votes to see how this round plays out. :shrug:

[Koala]

I cast my vote for The Long Run.

[AzEaglesFan]

So, I got out all the Albums that were left and checked the songs on them. I made a list and checked it twice and I have to vote for On The Border this time. There were only 2 songs (no, I'm NOT telling which 2) that I really like.

[TimothyBFan]

Well, it's getting harder!

I cast my vote for The Long Run.

It has some really terrific material on it, but those three stinkers... I can't get over how bad they are. When stinkers make up a third of the album, it needs to go.

NOTE: I realize not everyone thinks Teenage Jail, The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, and The Disco Strangler are stinkers. This is just my opinion - but for me at least, they are not up to Eagles standards and bring the whole album down despite the fact that there is indeed high-quality material surrounding them.

That just hurts!! http://bestsmileys.com/crying/2.gif But I do love the way you follow up with the "note" tho!!

My vote, once again, goes to Desperado!!

[Topkat]

Well, I'm all worn out from the last round of this. I knew I was going to get emotional over HFO, but now that it's gone, & I'm still really upset over this, I guess I will "Get Over It".
I'm holding off my vote this round till later
BTW; There were 7 votes for Desperado last round, not 6

[TimothyBFan]

I'm showing only 6 votes last round for Desperado.

[sodascouts]

Whose vote do you think I missed, Topkat?

[Topkat]

Desperado – WalshFan88
Desperado – Topkat
Desperado - timfan
Desperado – TimothyBFan
Desperado - Tori
Desperado - HenleyHoney
Desperado – EagleLady

This was the list from the final countdown, but it doesn't matter anyway, Desperado is still in the game.

[TimothyBFan]

I see---she had them listed right, just typed the wrong #. Oops!! Could come into play later in the game, hoping not after this round tho. :wink: Glad you found it.

[sodascouts]

Shoot, I hate it when that happens! That's why I have to write it all out.

It could come into play later if there's a tie-breaker so I'm glad you noticed it as well, Topkat. Thanks. I'll go back and change it.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well Willie's not gonna like me for this, but I say that those of us who want to save Desperado should try to band together and vote for The Long Run. Based on the votes so far, it looks like that it possibly could be the next one going down anyway. I guess we'll soon see if the tribe thinks Desperado or The Long Run should go down next. But heck, everyone is holding back, so maybe one of the others will go instead. :headscratch:

[EaglesFanatic]

Well Willie's not gonna like me for this, but I say that those of us who want to save Desperado should try to band together and vote for The Long Run. Based on the votes so far, it looks like that it possibly could be the next one going down anyway. I guess we'll soon see if the tribe thinks Desperado or The Long Run should go down next. But heck, everyone is holding back, so maybe one of the others will go instead. :headscratch:

And that's why I'm going to vote off The Long Run. I would have voted for Eagles LP again, but I like Desperado more than I dislike Eagles LP... If that makes any sense :eyebrow: lol

Actually, Long Run used to be my favorite Eagles album, but I seem to be putting Desperado on my turntable more frequently than the others. The thing that I like most about Desperado is that you can clearly see how much of a conjoint effort it was. This album is also great in the sense that it showcases the early sound of the Eagles, the "country" sound that Bernie envisioned for the band. But at the same time, this album kind of foreshadows what the band's sound was going to become in songs like Outlaw Man and Out of Control. But of course, everyone interprets songs differently, and I know this is just my opinion.

PS: Are we not doing immunity questions?

[luvthelighthouse]

I totally forgot about immunity questions! Although, I will admit, I like this pure voting method! I still have no idea how to vote... and I keep forgetting about LROOE, but I wouldn't vote for that anyway.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

And that's why I'm going to vote off The Long Run. I would have voted for Eagles LP again, but I like Desperado more than I dislike Eagles LP... If that makes any sense :eyebrow: lol

It makes perfect sense to me, EF. That's why coalitions work in the first place. My personal preference would be to see Eagles eliminated too, but I would probably vote for any of the other albums (except Hotel California) to save Desperado at this point in the game.

And that's right - no immunity questions in this game.

[Brooke]

I'll go ahead and vote. I vote for The Long Run.

It's always been my least favorite of the studio albums. Those stinkers just seemed to loom on it and I rarely played it back in the day. Or now for that matter.

[The Disco Strangler]

This keeps getting tougher. I gotta go with On the Border.

[Windeagle]

Eagles and The Long Run are about even for me, for different reasons, so I'm not picky which one I vote for this time. If voting for TLR can help Desperado live to fight another day, then so be it.

I vote The Long Run.

[Topkat]

Well, I see the ALLIANCE theory in place here, & seems people are voting in a block, so the game is really not that much fun to me. :cry:

[Brooke]

Tk, I said at the very beginning of the game that The Long Run was my least favorite album besides the live ones. I decided that, to me, it was better with new material than redos of old material. Since the live albums are gone, it's my next choice.

[UK TimFan]

Well, I see the ALLIANCE theory in place here, & seems people are voting in a block, so the game is really not that much fun to me. :cry:

Firstly you have to remember that not everyone voting for a particular song/album is voting that way because they have joined an alliance. If they're voting with their heart (like I usually do, and like Brooke has) it can be just coincidence that they appear to have joined a coalition.
Alliances/coalitions don't always work, though I admit that it's tough when it's your favourite that's on the wrong end of a coalition vote. (Been there lots of times. :smile:)

Rightly or wrongly, people will sometimes join coalitions not because they particularly dislike your favourite but in order to save their favourite. For instance, if my absolute favourite was Hotel California it doesn't really matter what I vote for in this round, as long as HC gets through to the next round. And if to achieve this I have to join a coalition, then that's what I'll do. (See post #134, where windeagle wants Desperado to be saved so isn't bothered which one of two albums they vote for in this round.)

You do have to have a thick skin to play Survivor, and learn not to take it personally. :hug:
At the end of the day it's all about our own personal opinion and if someone doesn't share my excellence taste in music then it's their loss. :grin:

[Topkat]

You do have to have a thick skin to play Survivor, and learn not to take it personally.
At the end of the day it's all about our own personal opinion and if someone doesn't share my excellence taste in music then it's their loss.


I'm not blaming anyone in particular. Please don't think that. I'm just a little upset. That is how Survivor is played, so it's up to me to tough it out. I just don't like hearing the negative stuff on some of the albums. I'm going to hang in there! Trying to be strong!

[BBKron]

I vote to eliminate The Long Run.

As I said in the first round, to me this is their overall weakest album (not bad, just weaker than the others), and that includes the live albums. I would have preferred to have voted for Long Run last round, but felt I needed to vote off HFO in order to save Desperado. So, I'm not voting for TLR just to save Desperado in this case, as it is the album I believe should rightly go in this round.

[sodascouts]

Hey, TK, if this game is truly upsetting you and you don't find it fun, maybe you should take a break from it. I realize that not everyone is into this kind of thing; please don't feel you have to play if it's stressing you out.

[Shadowland07]

I vote for Long Road out of Eden again. I love the other albums more than this one. LROOE does have some great songs "LROOE" "WITW" "Somebody" "How Long" and "Busy Being Fabulous", but that's it for me.

[Topkat]

Soda; I think I can handle it. I just get a little emotional over some of these comments. Believe me; this should be my biggest problem!:-?

[Wildthyme]

Gotta keep voting for On the Border to be eliminated...

[Topkat]

I vote to eliminate ON THE BORDER

For those of you that haven't voted yet, I'm pushing for a BLINDSIDE here of ON THE BORDER, Come on.........Let's make this game a little interesting!!!:whip:

[TimothyBFan]

So sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://bestsmileys.com/sad/11.gif

To all of you that have voted for The Long Run.....http://bestsmileys.com/signs11/21.gif :wink:

[timfan]

lol Willie.

Looks like another interesting round!

[WalshFan88]

Wow these votes for On The Border and The Long Run are making me sad! :( I love those albums, particularly OTB although I think TLR is underrated somewhat. I don't get the Desperado love but obviously that just me and a few others and some do. That album is by far the album I couldn't care less if I ever heard it again. Sorry to be harsh but it does absolutely nothing for me positively, if anything it depressed me or bores me depending on my mood. I DID give it a listen pre-game and feel the same about it as I did when I became an Eagles fan. Other than perhaps the title track, the album is just not that great IMHO. Obviously some like it and I respect that but I don't understand it and likely never will. :D

That said, I encourage everyone to vote for Desperado and save On The Border and The Long Run both. Both are head and shoulders above Desperado musically. Mind you I prefer the Walsh/Felder years and am not a big Leadon fan but I certainly respect what he brought to the early era of the band but I still say the best thing they've ever done career wise was getting Joe Walsh and Don Felder in there. I just prefer the Hotel California and Long Run era Eagles. Walsh and Felder go together like bread and butter. I miss the chemistry in the playing of those two being together in the band. The Hotel California lineup is my favorite, with The Long Run lineup being my 2nd favorite. I really just love the classic rock sound. Banjos, mandolins, pedal steels, etc do nothing for me. Not a classic country, bluegrass, or folk fan. Just not my thing. I'm all about ROCKIN'! :D

[Topkat]

Wow these votes for On The Border and The Long Run are making me sad! I love those albums, particularly OTB although I think TLR is underrated somewhat. I don't get the Desperado love but obviously that just me and a few others and some do. That album is by far the album I couldn't care less if I ever heard it again. Sorry to be harsh but it does absolutely nothing for me positively, if anything it depressed me or bores me depending on my mood. I DID give it a listen pre-game and feel the same about it as I did when I became an Eagles fan. Other than perhaps the title track, the album is just not that great IMHO. Obviously some like it and I respect that but I don't understand it and likely never will.

WalshFan88, I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but Desperado only has 2 votes, OTB has 5 & TLR has 7 so there is little chance of getting Desperado out this round. As we found out last round, there is a lot of love here for Desperado. I tried hard to have it voted out last round with little success.

[WalshFan88]

WalshFan88, I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but Desperado only has 2 votes, OTB has 5 & TLR has 7 so there is little chance of getting Desperado out this round. As we found out last round, there is a lot of love here for Desperado. I tried hard to have it voted out last round with little success.

I know. It's shocking though. I guess that's what makes us unique but Desperado = ick for me! :hilarious:

I'd say The Long Run as an album even with some "stinkers" is far superior to Desperado, but to each his own.

[TimothyBFan]

I'd say The Long Run as an album even with some "stinkers" is far superior to Desperado, but to each his own.

Stop calling them stinker!! http://bestsmileys.com/crying/13.gif

[WalshFan88]

Stop calling them stinker!! http://bestsmileys.com/crying/13.gif

LOL! I like Greeks... But The Disco Strangler? Teenage Jail??? C'mon. That said I'd rather listen to Teenage Jail on repeat for an hour than to listen to Desperado front to back! :D

[TimothyBFan]

hat said I'd rather listen to Teenage Jail on repeat for an hour than to listen to Desperado front to back! :D

Ooooh---You are going to get into sooooo much trouble for saying that!! I'm sure someone will be taking out the Stevie smack for you for that one!!

[WalshFan88]

Ooooh---You are going to get into sooooo much trouble for saying that!! I'm sure someone will be taking out the Stevie smack for you for that one!!

I gots my flame suit on! :hilarious:

[Glennsallnighter]

Well last round I voted for TLR, and to be honest I don't really see any reason not to continue to do so. It's not that I don't like it! Far from it, and I must say I LOVE 'Heartache Tonight'. But just musically, and as an overall collection of songs I don't feel it's as 'up there' as some of their other albums.

Therefore this round I vote off 'The Long Run'

[EaglesFanatic]

LOL! I like Greeks... But The Disco Strangler? Teenage Jail??? C'mon. That said I'd rather listen to Teenage Jail on repeat for an hour than to listen to Desperado front to back! :D


Wow, you must really not like Desperado! I don't think I've ever been able to listen to Teenage Jail from start to finish... Just not my cup of tea (sorry Wille :angel:)

[Henley Honey]

I vote for: The Long Run

IMO it contains three "stinkers" but only one that I have never, EVER been able to listen to from beginning to end: Disco Strangler.

OOTN was a close second with two "stinkers", but they're songs that I can actually listen in their entirety.

[Freypower]

Willie & I must be the only people who don't think Disco Strangler is a 'stinker'. I think it's a powerful song, very different from their usual work. As for Greeks, it's fun. It is a huge departure from all the sermonising on the HC album. I don't like Teenage Jail much.

In my opinion even if you dislike those three songs, surely the other seven (or six in my case, because I don't like the title track very much) make up for them? I know Soda doesn't like King Of Hollywood much but I love it.

[Brooke]

LOL! I like Greeks... But The Disco Strangler? Teenage Jail??? C'mon. That said I'd rather listen to Teenage Jail on repeat for an hour than to listen to Desperado front to back! :D

Here ya go Austin! :steviesmack:

There! :lol:



Willie & I must be the only people who don't think Disco Strangler is a 'stinker'. I think it's a powerful song, very different from their usual work. As for Greeks, it's fun. It is a huge departure from all the sermonising on the HC album. I don't like Teenage Jail much.

In my opinion even if you dislike those three songs, surely the other seven (or six in my case, because I don't like the title track very much) make up for them? I know Soda doesn't like King Of Hollywood much but I love it.

I don't care much for DS or Greeks, but like them better than TJ. Actually, I can at least listen to them most of the time. I'm not usually one to skip a song unless for some reason it irritates me at the time. I'm one to let a whole album play. My husband tends to just play certain songs he wants to hear and rarely listens to a whole album. Drives me crazy sometimes. I tell him he's missing a lot of great music, but he does it anyway! :rolleyes:

[luvthelighthouse]

I looked at TLR, OOTN and OTB.

I counted the songs I loved on each, the ones I was indifferent to and the ones I could live without. The most evenly distributed was TLR and OOTN. Surprisingly, I found I liked a bunch from OTB.

Now, I enjoy the songs on OOTN, better than the ones I enjoy of TLR. I feel TLR, ICTYW, ITC, HT and TS are great, great songs! However, the sexiness of OOTN and the song that made me buy Their Greatest Hits, Lyin' Eyes along with Randy's TITTL are stellar songs! I'm on of the few, but I love ATTIG, which is also on this album. Something must go down and I wish I didn't have to vote for any... but I do.

With sadness, I vote for The Long Run.

Not because it's not good, it is! It's just the way I'm going today... if I had another day to go... I may have voted another way... but ah well, it is what it is...

[Topkat]

I have to say that all the voting off the newer albums is showing a lack of respect for the newer band members, Joe Walsh & Timothy B Schmit. This really HURTS as I feel they have added so much to this band....To pick on 1 or 2 songs from an album & not accounting for all the other GOOD songs on it is a mistake. Please take the entire album into consideration....I'm just sayin':steviesmack:

[The Disco Strangler]

Willie & I must be the only people who don't think Disco Strangler is a 'stinker'. I think it's a powerful song, very different from their usual work. As for Greeks, it's fun. It is a huge departure from all the sermonising on the HC album. I don't like Teenage Jail much.

In my opinion even if you dislike those three songs, surely the other seven (or six in my case, because I don't like the title track very much) make up for them? I know Soda doesn't like King Of Hollywood much but I love it.

This. :thumbsup:

[TimothyBFan]

I truly do NOT skip any of the songs on The Long Run and that is the only Eagle album I can say that about. What's wrong with me? http://bestsmileys.com/moody/6.gif It must be me because all the rest of you seem to agree!!!

:nope:Because you guys are being so mean to my beloved TLR, I'm taking my ball and going home!! http://bestsmileys.com/playing/13.gif (doesn't this smiley remind you of those old pics of Timothy juggling?) :lol:

[UK TimFan]

I truly do NOT skip any of the songs on The Long Run and that is the only Eagle album I can say that about. What's wrong with me? http://bestsmileys.com/moody/6.gif It must be me because all the rest of you seem to agree!!!

:nope:Because you guys are being so mean to my beloved TLR, I'm taking my ball and going home!! http://bestsmileys.com/playing/13.gif (doesn't this smiley remind you of those old pics of Timothy juggling?) :lol:
In my case it's nothing personal Willie, as I skip at least two songs on every Eagles album. And although I might not like the stinkers :grin: I do absolutely adore (as opposed to merely 'like') I can't tell you why, King of Hollywood, and Those shoes, so if I ever do vote for TLR it's because I need to protect a more favourite album.

(Not voting at the moment, still considering.)

[Freypower]

I truly do NOT skip any of the songs on The Long Run and that is the only Eagle album I can say that about. What's wrong with me? http://bestsmileys.com/moody/6.gif It must be me because all the rest of you seem to agree!!!

:nope:Because you guys are being so mean to my beloved TLR, I'm taking my ball and going home!! http://bestsmileys.com/playing/13.gif (doesn't this smiley remind you of those old pics of Timothy juggling?) :lol:

As I said earlier, I agree with you.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I love how I'm being told that the way I vote is "not right" when I'm the one who originated the Eagles Survivor games!

So since I conceptualized and wrote the rules, I'd like to clear some things up.

For the purposes of this and any other Survivor game played on The Border:

Voting to eliminate a song based on your own individual criteria, be it strategic or sentimental, is right.
Condemning the methods of other voters is not right.
Arguing for/against a song is right.
Making it personal is not right.



That was a note from the board administrator that was posted in the last game Survivor game that we played. Just a reminder that everyone who chooses to play this and any future games on The Border must adhere to these guidelines.


I have to say that all the voting off the newer albums is showing a lack of respect for the newer band members, Joe Walsh & Timothy B Schmit. This really HURTS as I feel they have added so much to this band....To pick on 1 or 2 songs from an album & not accounting for all the other GOOD songs on it is a mistake. Please take the entire album into consideration....I'm just sayin':steviesmack:
TK – Whether you intended it to be or not, this comment is rude and may be offensive to those who have voted for this album. Voting for The Long Run is no more insulting to Joe and Timothy than your previous votes and comments on Desperado are to Bernie and Randy.

We have asked you several times to keep your emotions in check here. This is just a GAME and if you are going to play, please temper your future comments and be respectful of everyone’s right to vote however they wish for whatever reason they wish.

[luvthelighthouse]

I have to say that all the voting off the newer albums is showing a lack of respect for the newer band members, Joe Walsh & Timothy B Schmit. This really HURTS as I feel they have added so much to this band....To pick on 1 or 2 songs from an album & not accounting for all the other GOOD songs on it is a mistake. Please take the entire album into consideration....I'm just sayin':steviesmack:

I think it's funny you posted this right after my post, where I practically said I disected each album. I think I made it clear, I took into account each song.

[Topkat]

Qutote from: Luvthelighthouse:

I think it's funny you posted this right after my post, where I practically said I disected each album. I think I made it clear, I took into account each song.

Actually I didn't see your post, I think we were writing at about the same time. I was referring to some previous posts where some were talking about a few "stinkers" :-?

[whitcap]

I vote for Long Road out of Eden

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well - my computer is moving at a snails pace so I'm keeping my comments short so I can get my vote posted. I would have voted for any album this round to save Desperado, but it wasn't necessary after all. I love all the albums, just some a bit more than others. For me personally, there isn't any Eagles song so bad that I can't listen to it. I like even the ones that I considered to be the weakest. Now, I'll vote for the future ...

I cast my vote for One of These Nights.

[UK TimFan]

With regard to an earlier post where I spoke about 'adoring' some songs as opposed to just 'liking' them, I've since wondered whether it would be fairer to take that aspect into account when comparing albums (considering that I always skip some songs on every album).
Doing it that way HC ties with another album, but as the other album has more songs that I like in general, my vote this time is again for Hotel California.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

The next album to be eliminated from Eagles Album Survivor is The Long Run. “The Long Run”, I can’t tell you why you have been booted by the tribe so soon. But now, you must put on those shoes and leave the island immediately.

Votes
The Long Run – 10
On the Border – 5
Desperado – 2
Long Road Out of Eden – 2
One of These Nights – 2
Eagles – 1
Hotel California – 1

Vote Breakdown
The Long Run – sodascouts
The Long Run – Tori
The Long Run – Koala
The Long Run – EaglesFanatic
The Long Run – Brooke
The Long Run – Windeagle
The Long Run – BBKron
The Long Run – Glennsallnighter
The Long Run – Henley Honey
The Long Run – luvthelighthouse
On the Border – timfan
On the Border – AzEaglesFan
On the Border – The Disco Strangler
On the Border – WildThyme
On the Border – Topkat
Desperado – WalshFan88
Desperado – TimothyBFan
Long Road Out of Eden – Shadowland07
Long Road Out of Eden – whitcap
One of These Nights – Freypower
One of These Nights – Ive always been a dreamer
Eagles – VAisForEagleLovers
Hotel California – UK TimFan

Songs eliminated:
Eagles Live 11/19
Hell Freezes Over 11/21
The Long Run 11/23

Songs remaining:
Eagles
Desperado
On the Border
One of These Nights
Hotel California
Long Road Out of Eden

[WalshFan88]

Desperado

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Important Note:

We are going to temporarily suspend play of our game for the Thanksgiving Holidays observed in the U.S. Please do not cast any votes during the break. Play will resume on Friday, 11/25 at 8:00 p.m. EST. We will make an announcement at that time to begin the voting for Round 4.

(Everyone feel free to continue discussion about the albums during the break if you wish. However, please do not cast your vote until the announcement that play has resumed).


HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Austin, sorry for the delay in making the announcement about the Thanksgiving break. As I said earlier, my pc is having a heartache tonight! :lol: Anyway, we can't count any votes cast during the break, but feel free to recast your vote after we make the announcement that play has resumed on Friday night.

[The Disco Strangler]

Well - my computer is moving at a snails pace so I'm keeping my comments short so I can get my vote posted. I would have voted for any album this round to save Desperado, but it wasn't necessary after all. I love all the albums, just some a bit more than others. For me personally, there isn't any Eagles song so bad that I can't listen to it. I like even the ones that I considered to be the weakest. Now, I'll vote for the future ...

I cast my vote for One of These Nights.

Wonderfully said. :smile:

[Topkat]

Are we back on this game, now that Thanksgiving is over? or are we waiting?

[Freypower]

See above. The game will resume at 8 pm Eastern time.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and welcome back to the game.

Voting for Round Four begins now.

[WalshFan88]

Desperado

[Windeagle]

I vote for Eagles this round.

[Freypower]

One Of These Nights

[sodascouts]

Not an easy choice! IMHO, the "big 3" on the Eagles Album - TIE, PEF, WW - are outstanding. I also really like MOUAS and have gained appreciation for Chug All Night after hearing it on old bootlegs. In fact, there is no song on there I absolutely hate.

However, the guys weren't as involved in the songwriting as they would become later, and many of the lyrics they did write showed that they still had a lot of growing to do (naturally).

Thus, despite my affection for many of its songs...

I cast my vote for Eagles.

[Tori]

I cast my vote for Eagles LP.

[Shadowland07]

I cast my vote for LROOE. I can listen to the others all the way through.

[EaglesKiwi]

I vote for Eagles LP

[EaglesFanatic]

Eagles LP!

[Henleyfan]

Sorry for joining the game late... My vote is the Eagles LP.

[Koala]

I cast my vote for On the Border!

[Wildthyme]

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I vote for On the Border once again this round...

[Glennsallnighter]

I too vote for On The Border this round.

[timfan]

Once again I vote for On the Border.

[Brooke]

As much as it hurts me I will have to vote for Eagles this time. It has 3 of my favorite songs of all time on it, but I guess that's the way it goes. :sad:

This is what I thought about it a while back when we discussed the albums.

Eagles. 4 wonderful songs for me on this one, Take It Easy-the anthem, Witchy Woman, Peaceful Easy Feeling, and Tryin. 4 are ok, Nightingale, Train Leaves Here This Morning, Chug All Night, and Take the Devil. I skip Most of Us Are Sad, and Earlybird. (The chirping drives me crazy!) Most favorite is Take It Easy! I just love the very first chords and it's a feel good song. Glenn's voice on PEF is soooooo sweet, too, and I fell in love with Don's voice on Witchy Woman back in the day! I thought off the top of my head this would be my favorite album, but when I actually counted the favorite songs here's where it wound up! Who knew?!

Now I'm trying to figure out where LROOE fits in. :headscratch:

[TimothyBFan]

DESPERADO----Need I say more?

[AzEaglesFan]

On The Border

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Oh wow - looks like this round is gonna be another nail-biter - this time between Eagles and On the Border! Of these two albums, IMHO, song for song, On the Border is a much more consistently strong album. As others have stated, Eagles has 4 or 5 strong songs, but much of the remainder is indicative of the young, inexperienced band that they were at the time. By the time they recorded On the Border, they were really starting to gain a lot of confidence in what they wanted to be as a band, and it showed in terms of the quality songwriting, musicianship, and those awesome vocal harmonies that they would become so well known for.

There are still quite a few votes out and several of those voters have voted for On the Border in the past. So if there are folks out there that want to save On the Border, it's a good time to band together and vote for Eagles. When I'm ready to vote, that's what I will definitely vote for if my vote will help to save On the Border.

[Topkat]

Voting for ON THE BORDER

[luvthelighthouse]

I personally LOVE Eagles LP. I am quite fond of Nightengale... really, the only song I skip is Earlybird, because of the stupid churping!

My gut said to vote for OTB, to try and save Eagles, but that has My Man, Is It True and The Best of My Love, which I really love... so I said to myslef, throw caution to the wind and go for OOTN... but that one it hard too!

Ok, guys, why do you have to have such a stellar catalog that I can't choose what to vote off next?

I think today is the day to vote... so I'm just gonna pick one...

I vote for On The Border !

For no reason other than that is what came out when I started typing! I love them all and they all hold special meaning for different reasons.

[Freypower]

What happened to all those people who wanted Desperado gone?!

I would hate to see first The Long Run, then On The Border go as these are two of my favourite albums. OTB has a couple of weak moments (they are YNCLAL & Midnight Flyer) but overall it is very strong. Also from a personal perspective this is the last album until LROOE where Glenn sang an equal amount of songs, and they are all great, even if two of them are technically duets. It shows the band starting to move away from country rock to just rock - Already Gone & Good Day In Hell - while proving they were still the masters of ballads & harmony singing - BOML, My Man, Is It True. The title track I see as unique & looks forward in a way to some of the themes on HC. I wish I could defend it better than this!

OOTN, on the other hand, has only three great songs & the rest of it is mediocre with the possible exception of Too Many Hands. I don't share the love many have for ATTIG. To use Soda's words, two of the tracks on this album are in my opinion 'stinkers' & the two worst songs the band recorded (I Wish You Peace & Visions). And yet I seem too be the only one who doesn't like this album much.

[Topkat]

Freypower: I tried very hard to get rid of Desperado 2 rounds ago & was met up with huge resistance & a lotta love for that album. Two of my favorite albums, HFO & The Long Run are Already Gone, so I'm voting with what I feel should go next, besides Desperado, because that is really my least favorite album.
This game is brutal, & like I said before I won't rally to save anything now that HFO is gone.

[Henley Honey]

On The Border

[EagleLady]

I vote for Desperado

[The Disco Strangler]

On the Border.

[TimothyBFan]

What happened to all those people who wanted Desperado gone?!

.

:bye: Still here, Julie!! I'm still trying!


Freypower: I tried very hard to get rid of Desperado 2 rounds ago & was met up with huge resistance & a lotta love for that album. Two of my favorite albums, HFO & The Long Run are Already Gone, so I'm voting with what I feel should go next, besides Desperado, because that is really my least favorite album.
This game is brutal, & like I said before I won't rally to save anything now that HFO is gone.

I don't quite understand why you are voting for what you feel should go next BESIDES Desperado? If you feel Desperado should be gone, it seems you'd want to keep voting for it till it's finally gone.

[Henleyfan]

Freypower: I tried very hard to get rid of Desperado 2 rounds ago & was met up with huge resistance & a lotta love for that album. Two of my favorite albums, HFO & The Long Run are Already Gone, so I'm voting with what I feel should go next, besides Desperado, because that is really my least favorite album.
This game is brutal, & like I said before I won't rally to save anything now that HFO is gone.

Topkat, I agree with you about HFO.... When I found this thread and saw that it was just eliminated, I about screamed. That was a great album. It contains a lot of great songs AND it was the start of the band getting back together. But as sad as it is, what is done is done..... :-(

I still believe the next album that should go is Eagles....

[Topkat]

I don't quite understand why you are voting for what you feel should go next BESIDES Desperado? If you feel Desperado should be gone, it seems you'd want to keep voting for it till it's finally gone.


That's not how I play Survivor. I am voting this round to save Eagles LP. I would rather OTB go than Eagles LP. Last round I also voted for OTB, to try to save TLR. It's all in the numbers. If only 1 or 2 people vote for Desperado, it's not going anywhere. Like I said, I tried hard to get it booted of the island in an earlier round, & got a lot of flack for it, & my favorite album got the boot! Actually, I think OTB & Desperado are about equal for me. I could get rid of either one, doesn't really matter to me.

[Maleah]

I vote for Desperado

[whitcap]

This is hard. I love both Eagles and On the Border. Since I love On the Border a little bit more I'm gonna vote for Eagles to be eliminated.

[timfan]

another EXTREMELY close round..

[BBKron]

Yes, another tough round, as they all are in this version of the game.

Ok, so it seems unavoidable that either Eagles or On The Border is going down this round. However, these are excellent albums, I love them both, and I can't really justify voting for either one, while there are still lesser albums, in my opinion, still in play. If I had to choose between them, I would probably rank OTB just ahead of Eagles, but these albums would rank as my 3rd and 4th favorite Eagles albums, right behind Desperado and Hotel California.

I heartily disagree with those that say there are only 3 or 4 good songs on the 1st album. Besides the big hits, Train Leaves Here This Morning and Nightingale are also excellent (Train being one of my very favorite Eagles songs). Chug All Night and Tryin' are great rockers (especially live). Even the much maligned Earlybird is a great song (Love Bernie's banjo) if you can get past the bird chirps (sure wish they would have left those off). Thus, I would say that 8 of the ten songs are very good. For OTB, well it is filled with great songs. There really are none that are what I would call weak.

Thus, I have to vote for what I feel is the weakest album left, which is One Of These Nights, which although has some fine songs, there also are several weak spots, including the awful over-production throughout and the disco-tinged title track (However, I think Journey of the Sorcerer is the best song on the album, highly original and imaginative). Even if it won't make any difference in this round, perhaps it will encourage others to vote for it next round, rather than whichever of Eagles or OTB remains in play.

So, I vote to eliminate One Of These Nights.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yep - I think I can go ahead and vote now since this round is so close and every vote could count. Since there has been very little discussion this round, I would love to hear from some of those who are voting for On the Border as to why they think it is weaker than some of the remaining albums. In any event, I think my vote will tie things up for the moment, but by virtue of previous votes, On the Border will be eliminated if this round ends in a tie. I'm still crossing my fingers for you On the Border because I think you are the better album, so ...

I cast my vote for Eagles!!!

[timfan]

well my reason for voting for OTB is simple... I looked at all the remaining albums and OTB had the least of the songs that I listen to and enjoy! so.. not a hard choice for me

[UK TimFan]

I vote for Hotel California.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well, we have a tie this round, but by virtue of the tiebreaker, the next album to be eliminated from Eagles Album Survivor is On the Border. “On the Border”, you didn't get the best of our love in this game. You are already gone, so go get in that Ol' 55 and please leave the island immediately.

Votes
On the Border – 9
Eagles – 9
Desperado – 4
One of These Nights – 2
Long Road Out of Eden – 1
Hotel California – 1

Previous Votes:
Eagles - 4
On the Border - 9

Vote Breakdown
On the Border – Koala
On the Border – WildThyme
On the Border– Glennsallnighter
On the Border – timfan
On the Border – AzEaglesFan
On the Border – Topkat
On the Border – luvthelighthouse
On the Border – Henley Honey
On the Border – The Disco Strangler
Eagles – Windeagle
Eagles – sodascouts
Eagles – Tori
Eagles – EaglesKiwi
Eagles – EaglesFanatic
Eagles – Henleyfan
Eagles – Brooke
Eagles – whitcap
Eagles – Ive always been a dreamer
Desperado – WalshFan88
Desperado – TimothyBFan
Desperado – EagleLady
Desperado – Maleah
One of These Nights – Freypower
One of These Nights – BBKron
Long Road Out of Eden – Shadowland07
Hotel California – UK TimFan

Albums eliminated:
Eagles Live 11/19
Hell Freezes Over 11/21
The Long Run 11/23
On the Border 11/27

Albums remaining:
Eagles
Desperado
One of These Nights
Hotel California
Long Road Out of Eden

Voting for Round Five begins now.

[UK TimFan]

Austin's late posting his vote. Voting's been declared open for seven minutes. :grin:

[WalshFan88]

I was busy doing other things. ;) :D

As always, Desperado, please disappear!

[Freypower]

Well, we've gone from very heated discussion to no discussion at all; and I am basically none the wiser about why OTB is gone. I find myself swimming against the tide of this game, but even though my vote will probably continue to be wasted, because I suspect I know what will happen this round, I once again vote for One Of These Nights.

[Tori]

Going to vote for Eagles again. Simply because I listen to more of the songs on other albums than I do this one.

[UK TimFan]

Well, we've gone from very heated discussion to no discussion at all; and I am basically none the wiser about why OTB is gone. I find myself swimming against the tide of this game, but even though my vote will probably continue to be wasted, because I suspect I know what will happen this round, I once again vote for One Of These Nights.
I suspect that OTB has gone for the simple reason that it's not in the 'top three' of most people's list of 'favourites'. Although it's an 'OK' sort of album, and I like six of the songs there's not one which I would rush to play.
(In fact, I can't think why I'm an Eagles fan because I'm sure that if I added up their songs I would find that I skip more than I play. :confused: )

[Freypower]

Well, for what it's worth, OTB is my third favourite album and is totally underrated.

[whitcap]

On the Border is my favorite album. Its okay though. The other two albums in my top three are still in play :)

[Windeagle]

I'm heartbroken to see OTB gone. My favorite Eagles era begins with Desperado and ends with Hotel California. Sure, there are some great songs on the albums before and after, but IMO (and this game is of course all about opinion - your mileage may vary), those albums represented the best of the Eagles most consistently.

Based on this, I'll repeat my last round and vote Eagles.

[Shadowland07]

Once again I vote for LROOE

[sodascouts]

For reasons previously stated,

I cast my vote for the Eagles LP.

[Maleah]

My vote goes to Desperado again. Other than the title song and Tequila Sunrise, there just aren't many songs that I listen to on that album, compared to the other remaining albums.

[luvthelighthouse]

For me, this is the easiest round so far.

I vote for One of These Nights !

There are only four songs I listen to on this album. Now, they are fantastic songs, but for an overall album... I like less than half of it.

I absolutely love Eagles. That album, while "young", is so much fun!

[EaglesKiwi]

I vote for Eagles, again. I just like the other albums more!

[TimothyBFan]

First-- Soda---LOVE, LOVE, LOVE that new banner!!!! OMG!!!!

For the love of science.... Please people, join me, won't you?... in getting rid of Desperado this round finally!!!

I vote for Desperado~

[timfan]

I'm voting for Desperado. Like Maleah the only songs I consider favs are Desperado and Tequila Sunrise.

[Brooke]

I vote for Eagles again. Same reasons as last round.

[EagleLady]

I vote for Desperado Again

[Topkat]

TimothyBFan: LOVE YOUR NEW SIGNATURE!!

[Henley Honey]

Bye Bye, Desperado.

[sodascouts]

First-- Soda---LOVE, LOVE, LOVE that new banner!!!! OMG!!!!

Thanks! Yours is getting me into the Christmas spirit nicely. ;)

But I must disagree with the Desperado vote! Here's hoping it stays another round!

[BBKron]

For the record, On The Border IS in my 'Top 3' favorites, and I agree with Freypower that it is a greatly underrated album (certainly not just an 'OK album, but a great album). The only reason I can suggest for why it was dispensed of by so many is that it doesn't have as many of the 'big hits' as other albums (only 2, Already Gone and Best of My Love), and , unfortunately, that seems to be an important criteria here. But most of the other songs are also great, such as James Dean, Good Day In Hell, My Man, etc., and all the others are very solid, with no real weak spots.

But anyway, it is now gone, and once again, Eagles and Desperado appear to be taking the most heat for this round. But, as previously detailed, Desperado remains the Eagles crowning achievement, a truly sensational album from start to finish, and Eagles is also a wonderful album, and neither yet deserve to be eliminated.

So, Once again, I hope people will now rally behind One Of These Nights, as the album most deserving of leaving this round. It is their most wildly uneven and erratic album. Sure it contains some great songs (as do all their albums), but also some of their weakest, and the entire album suffers from some egregious style and production choices (gratuitously slick and 'discofied' over-production). It is quite frankly the only Eagles album that I NEVER listen to at all (the songs I like have been extracted and are played separately). I would also say that every single song on Desperado is better than any song on OOTN (but, I guess that is just me).

Anyway, please join me as I vote to eliminate One Of These Nights.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

For the record, On The Border IS in my 'Top 3' favorites, and I agree with Freypower that it is a greatly underrated album (certainly not just an 'OK album, but a great album). The only reason I can suggest for why it was dispensed of by so many is that it doesn't have as many of the 'big hits' as other albums (only 2, Already Gone and Best of My Love), and , unfortunately, that seems to be an important criteria here. But most of the other songs are also great, such as James Dean, Good Day In Hell, My Man, etc., and all the others are very solid, with no real weak spots.

BBKron - On these points, I totally agree with you and FP. Not really sure why others don't see it that way though. It, obviously, doesn't appeal to some here like it does to us for whatever reasons. As timfan said, she just simply doesn't like it as well as some of the others. It would be really interesting to see where it would rank in a poll with a wider fanbase????

I also agree with you about Desperado except I consider Hotel California to be the band's crowning achievement.

I guess where we part ways a bit is about the Eagles and One of These Nights albums. I considered these about equal in quality - both are pretty uneven IMHO. I don't think Eagles is nearly as good as you do, nor do I think One of These Nights is nearly as bad as you do.

So, having said that, it is fairly apparent that either Desperado or Eagles will be eliminated this round, so I can't waste my vote on One of These Nights. I continue to urge others to rally around Desperado and band together to vote for the Eagles LP!!!

[Freypower]

Just my two cents - OOTN is far more uneven than Eagles, with JOTS, IWYP & Visions being the most 'uneven' to put it mildly. Eagles on the other hand is really only let down by Earlybird & Tryin' (I will be kind to Nightingale which is not a favourite of mine). As for the over-production of OOTN the same could be said about HC but with OOTN, I think that Too Many Hands, Hollywood Waltz & IWYP are somewhat over-produced, and that ATTIG is cloying (and I know how many people love that song, but I am not one of them).

[sodascouts]

Like Dreamer, I find Eagles and One of These Nights both to be uneven efforts. Overall, I enjoy both, but they both veer from the magnificent to the mundane.

Eagles has two of my favorites, Take It Easy and Peaceful Easy Feeling.
One of These Nights has my all-time favorite, Take It to the Limit.

Eagles has an underrated song that I love: Most of Us Are Sad.
One of These Nights has an underrated song that I love: Too Many Hands.

Eagles has a hit that I like, but not as much as everyone else seems to: Witchy Woman.
One of These Nights has a hit that I like, but not as much as everyone else seems to: Lyin' Eyes.

Eagles has a song that grew on me after I heard it live: Chug All Night.
One of These Nights has a song that grew on me after I heard it live: the title track.

Then, we start to diverge.

On Eagles, I find Nightingale to be rather cringe-worthy at times ("I'm hangin' on to my special friend - the apple of my eye!" Gag me!). Tryin' and Take the Devil are very forgettable; I have listened to these albums countless times, yet I still can't quite remember all their lyrics. Earlybird has a terrific banjo part and I actually think the tune is fun - but those chirps are so obnoxious! Train Leaves Here This Morning is pleasant enough, but a bit on the dull side.

On One Of These Nights, I find Visions to be very cringe-worthy most of the time ("Play on, El Chingadero!" mmmkay - plus it sounds so dated with all the falsetto stuff). I appreciate Journey of the Sorcerer's artistry, but it's jarringly out of place on the album. Hollywood Waltz, like Train Leaves Here This Morning on Eagles, is pleasant but a tad dull. However, I enjoy I Wish You Peace (although it seems I'm the only one) and After the Thrill Is Gone enough to give OOTN a bit of an edge.

So, when I view them side by side, One of These Nights wins out over Eagles. It's next on my list, though.

[Windeagle]

Wow. I must be the only one who loves OOTN. I Wish You Peace is the only song I skip, and it's conveniently at the end of the CD. I even like Visions, though I admit it's the guitar part that saves it. Lyin' Eyes bores me a little, but it's not skip-worthy. Everything else, I love.

[Freypower]

Like Dreamer, I find Eagles and One of These Nights both to be uneven efforts. Overall, I enjoy both, but they both veer from the magnificent to the mundane.

Eagles has two of my favorites, Take It Easy and Peaceful Easy Feeling.
One of These Nights has my all-time favorite, Take It to the Limit.

Eagles has an underrated song that I love: Most of Us Are Sad.
One of These Nights has an underrated song that I love: Too Many Hands.

Eagles has a hit that I like, but not as much as everyone else seems to: Witchy Woman.
One of These Nights has a hit that I like, but not as much as everyone else seems to: Lyin' Eyes.

Eagles has a song that grew on me after I heard it live: Chug All Night.
One of These Nights has a song that grew on me after I heard it live: the title track.

Then, we start to diverge.

On Eagles, I find Nightingale to be rather cringe-worthy at times ("I'm hangin' on to my special friend - the apple of my eye!" Gag me!). Tryin' and Take the Devil are very forgettable; I have listened to these albums countless times, yet I still can't quite remember all their lyrics. Earlybird has a terrific banjo part and I actually think the tune is fun - but those chirps are so obnoxious! Train Leaves Here This Morning is pleasant enough, but a bit on the dull side.

On One Of These Nights, I find Visions to be very cringe-worthy most of the time ("Play on, El Chingadero!" mmmkay - plus it sounds so dated with all the falsetto stuff). I appreciate Journey of the Sorcerer's artistry, but it's jarringly out of place on the album. Hollywood Waltz, like Train Leaves Here This Morning on Eagles, is pleasant but a tad dull. However, I enjoy I Wish You Peace (although it seems I'm the only one) and After the Thrill Is Gone enough to give OOTN a bit of an edge.

So, when I view them side by side, One of These Nights wins out over Eagles. It's next on my list, though.

Soda, you and I have disagreed about what constitutes falsetto before. Where is there any falsetto in Visions? Randy's part in 'play on El Chingadero' is just his normal high register, isn't it? The other harmony parts ('don't you ever think about the other side' 'you & me oughta be takin' a ride') aren't sung in falsetto. 'If you don't like it you can say that you tried' is sung slightly higher but it still isn't falsetto. The falsetto on this album in my opinion only occurs in the title track & perhaps at the end of TITTL but to me that is still Randy's normal register.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsetto

NB They give Elton John as an example of someone who sings falsetto. I disagree. A couple of notes in Crocodile Rock do not make him a 'falsetto singer'.

[sodascouts]

I probably am wrong about what constitutes falsetto, then, but the super-high parts do sound quite dated to these ears.

[Freypower]

It's funny, because those parts are the only parts of the song that I think work. :-o

[Windeagle]

On One Of These Nights, I find Visions to be very cringe-worthy most of the time ("Play on, El Chingadero!" mmmkay - plus it sounds so dated with all the falsetto stuff).


Really? That's what they're saying? Huh. I always heard that line as "Come on and take the devil.". Oh well. It wouldn't be the first time I found out I'd been singing the wrong words for 30 years!

[sodascouts]

I like yours better, WE!

We actually have an entire topic devoted to mis-heard lyrics: https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992

[UK TimFan]

Bye Bye, Desperado.

For clarity, can I ask if the mods are regarding this post as a vote?
The implication (to me, at least) is that it is intended as a vote, but HH hasn't actually said 'I vote'.

[The Disco Strangler]

I'm going with One of These Nights

[sodascouts]

For clarity, can I ask if the mods are regarding this post as a vote?
The implication (to me, at least) is that it is intended as a vote, but HH hasn't actually said 'I vote'.

Yes, that's a vote.

All those who love Desperado and/or One of These Nights, please vote out EAGLES LP!


SAVE DESPERADO / ONE OF THESE NIGHTS! VOTE EAGLES LP!

[Henleyfan]

I am going to repeat my vote from last round and vote for Eagles LP.

[Wildthyme]

Gotta vote for Eagles to be eliminated to keep Desperado safe for another round...

[UK TimFan]

Yes, that's a vote.


Thank you, soda, for the clarification.

[Glennsallnighter]

While some of the long lasting all time favourites are on Eagles LP, I guess it just doesn't stand up to what followed it at this stage. Although as a debut album it was excellent. One of my favourites is in danger this round so in order to save that too I will vote to eliminate

EAGLES LP