Concert Disc in 'History' set doesn't sound right

[OutlawManNJ]

OK, I had mentioned this before and it seems like nobody noticed it except me. So I figured maybe its the crappy sound/speakers from my Vizio TV. So I hooked up my Blu Ray player to 2 big Floor speakers and a Sub Woofer via a SONY Receiver to see if I got the same results. And yep same thing. So it's not my speakers for sure, neither the TV nor the set I tried on later. Could it be just my DVD? I doubt it.

The music sounds good, but its the vocals especially when load or all of them singing, sounds wrong. Theres a chance most people wouldn't notice but I'm very particular about Audio and there is definately something poor about the audio track on the disc. As I said its especially with the vocals. Its like the levels were off and recored to high created this rattly, "hissy" TIN-ny, sound it the loud parts.

Has anyone else picked up on this? Right on the first track Hotel California it's noticible.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I also am very particular about how the music sounds. That being said, my Blu-ray player is only connected to one TV that has no stereo system with it, and I can't connect it to the other one (it's not HD). It takes three people to move the stereo cabinet in order to move the stereo to this TV! So, I can only listen to it through the TV and I don't hear what you are talking about. I do recall thinking that HC didn't sound as good as the other songs.

It was recorded in 1977 with significantly older technology, and I'm assuming it was all analog. Digital technology at that time was expensive and seemed to be limited to NASA and DoD type projects. There's only but so much that can be done to bring it to current standards, and I imagine the better the speakers the more obvious it is.

Does it sound like that during the movie? I know it would be hard to tell since it's in bits and pieces, but if you can't pick it out there, perhaps it is the DVD itself.

[OutlawManNJ]

I dont think it has to do with when it was filmed, in 77 technology was already well up there for sound....I have The Doors 1968 live at the Hollywood Bowl and it sounds perfect like if it was recorded today...so by 77 many live performances were captured perfectly.

Maybe this is why it was never released before...someone screwed up in the recording of the vocals...the levels are off. I bought a copy for my SIL so when I go there I am gonna check her disc...I doubt its just my disc.

[sodascouts]

I don't notice this on my Blu Ray version.

[OutlawManNJ]

Now I know Im not crazy. Someone posted on Amazon:

5.0 out of 5 stars Eagles Live Bonus DVD, May 13, 2013
By
Larry Osterhoudt "Cyclone Racer" (Downey, CA) - See all my reviews


This review is from: History of the Eagles [3DVD] (DVD)
The content of all 3 DVDs are very interesting to say the least. However the audio content on the bonus DVD of the live 1977 Hotel California tour was recorded too hot when it was transferred to DVD. Meaning some TVs, like my 42" Plasma Panasonic Viera set, could not handle it. The audio came out very distorted at any volume level. It was unlistenable. I had to play the DVD through my audio system, bypassing the TV, for it to be listenable. Someone recorded the audio level too high (too hot) on the DVD (a real audio genius) so some TVs may not be able to handle it without putting some kind of audio attenuator between the DVD player and the TV set. The other two DVDs, History of Part 1 and 2, are fine as far as the audio is concerned. If you are a Eagles fan this live concert material from the past is just priceless. This is 5 star stuff!

[VAisForEagleLovers]

I guess I'm lucky enough to have one of the TV's that can handle it. I listened to it again after the hockey game and it sounds great on my TV.

[sodascouts]

It's also possible it's a "batch" problem where a batch of the discs have the defect but not all. If that's the case, OMNJ, maybe you should exchange yours for another one.

[OutlawManNJ]

I guess I'm lucky enough to have one of the TV's that can handle it. I listened to it again after the hockey game and it sounds great on my TV.

I dont think its a "TV" issue. The issue happens if I play the audio through my TV or if I play it through high quality speakers. It's either a Batch Disc issue or a widespread disc issue that only a few notice. It's definately not a TV issue since Ive played it through both a TV and Stereo Speakers.

[Houston Debutante]

Mine is fine but it's not Blue Ray, it's the regular DVD version. Maybe that makes a difference.

[Outlawman13]

Mine is the blu-ray version and it sounds perfect. The sound isn't off of mine. I think you just got a defect like Nancy said.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

It's also possible it's a "batch" problem where a batch of the discs have the defect but not all. If that's the case, OMNJ, maybe you should exchange yours for another one.

Even if it isn't a one disc or batch defect but a real problem for some, it doesn't hurt anything to try and exchange it. I'd go for it!

[OutlawManNJ]

Returned disc, got new one, same problem. Im thinking most people dont notice but its there. Im gonna check the concert footage on the actual dcumentary to see if it sounds better than disc 3. The TV version I dont recall noticing this flaw.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Returned disc, got new one, same problem. Im thinking most people dont notice but its there. Im gonna check the concert footage on the actual dcumentary to see if it sounds better than disc 3. The TV version I dont recall noticing this flaw.

I thought the Amazon review you posted said the problem didn't exist during the movie? I thought I read that somewhere. Maybe there's an advantage to having crappy speakers, everything sounds crappy and you don't notice these things... :( I assume you played around with the audio settings on the DVD, did it sound better or worse or the same between Stereo and 5.1? You don't have the same problem with Farewell, right (same people mixed it)?

[Glennhoney]

I have listened again and again to the concert, and my discs are fine...

[Glennhoney]

..but they're not blue ray though..

[OutlawManNJ]

..but they're not blue ray though..

Yeah maybe its a Blu-Ray thing...or a Blu-Ray + PS3 combo... but I dunno. Strange.

I checked the movie itself and the concert footage at least from what Ive looked at seems fine. Its the Concert disc thats a problem. There is at least 1 other person on amazon with the same issue.

There is definately a problem that I have never encountered on any other Music Disc.

[sodascouts]

I'm thinking you might be onto something with your combo theory, since it happened with the replacement as well and happened to more than just you, but isn't happening to everyone.

[Victim of Love]

Mine sounds just fine...I play it thru my Insignia 42" flat screen and get really great sound.

[OutlawManNJ]

Mine sounds just fine...I play it thru my Insignia 42" flat screen and get really great sound.

Again, to clarify, the MUSIC sounds great...but the vocals sound "hissy", or at peak levels making it "dirty" especially in louder moments. It may not be obvious to some but I noticed it right away and so did my wife when she walked in the room.

The TV is not the issue as I have played the sound through 2 devices with same results: 1- TV Speakers and 2- Floor Speakers via a reciever.

The only variable I havent changed is the PS3, since its the only Blu Ray player I have. Is anyone else playing it off the PS3?

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Much to my nephews' dismay, I do not own a PS3! I have a Sony TV and a Sony Blu-ray, and believe me, if there were hissy vocals, I'd notice. As I said before, I have a sensitive ear when it comes to such things. The DVD player I have in the other room cleans up audio before putting it out. Supposedly. I do know that in the movie Hunt For Red October, when they are evacuating the submarine, there is background ocean noise and the men shout over it. The DVD player thinks it's distortion and tries to fix it, and the result is that I can't hear anything in that scene on that TV or anything connected to it. It's a Denon player and what I wanted for Blu-ray, but that was completely unaffordable at the time.