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YoungEaglesFan
08-28-2017, 12:16 AM
Hey guys I'm new to here but I'm a extremely dedicated fan who just saw them at the classic east. One thing I've wondered as listened to seven Bridges Road broken down on YouTube (which is so cool to listen to) is that the first part of the break down is felder and Glenn singing their parts. In the intro there are times when Glenn doesn't sing and you then hear Henley singing. Nothing strange as Glenn I guess doesn't sing that part BUT when they play Henley's solo part it sounds different than the one that is heard in Glenn and felders part. In henleys solo part he sings higher and towards the end he almost goes falsetto. In the beginning he sings "as you go" going down in pitch, but in his solo part he sings it as the same pitch but higher. Am I just hearing stuff or are there two Henley parts at the same time in SBR? You can find the breakdown on YouTube here:https://youtu.be/v4lwJw6g2gM any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Delilah
08-28-2017, 10:17 PM
Hi YoungEaglesFan, welcome to the board. No you're not just hearing stuff. I can hear it too. There was a lot of studio enhancement done to this "Live" album. When the band was working on the overdubs, things had gone south in the band and I don't think Henley and Frey were even speaking together much less working together. Maybe Glenn had enough and stopped cooperating so Henley filled in for him on those parts that needed a little work. The more likely scenario, though, is that Henley was used to augment those parts b/c of his impeccable vocals. Whatever the case, I do hear two Henley parts.

New Kid In Town
08-29-2017, 07:56 AM
UEF - At the time the Eagles album was recorded, Glenn had already left the band. Glenn was recording in LA and the rest of the guys were in Miami. There was no communication between Glenn and the other guys. Bill S. had his assistant engineer with Glenn in LA while he(Bill S.) was in Miami and it was him who communicated with everyone from what I have read. Bill S. even joked about the album being completed via Federal Express. At that point Glenn had checked out and probably did not care what anyone did.

BTW - Welcome !

NightMistBlue
08-29-2017, 10:40 AM
What a cool idea for a video. Predictably, I wish they'd used the "classic" version with Randy 'n Bernie or at least the '77 version.

BillBailey1976
08-29-2017, 02:57 PM
I think those isolated vocals videos are pretty neat.
There was one floating around on Youtube a few years back where they'd isolated Glenn's vocals on TIE, on the HFO video. It was very cool.

There's a Meatloaf video where he's at the sound board with the masters to 2 out of 3 ain't bad..and he's playing different parts like that.

Interestingly, Meatloaf says on that song, they were going for an Eagles sound, because the Eagles were real popular then.
He plays the harmony part, and says, that sounds like something the Eagles would sing doesn't it.

BillBailey1976
08-29-2017, 03:00 PM
Another really cool thing in that video was hearing how deep Felder sings.
He's almost singing the bass part, like you'd see in traditional 4 part southern gospel harmony.

Joe sounded really bad in that. I know in harmony, everyone's voice is blended, and it's not meant to be "deconstructed", but that song makes me wonder if Joe's microphone is generally lower in harmonies, because his part was nearly unlistenable.

BillBailey1976
08-29-2017, 03:09 PM
What a cool idea for a video. Predictably, I wish they'd used the "classic" version with Randy 'n Bernie or at least the '77 version.

I would have liked to have seen them do an actual "Live" album from the Hotel California era, with Randy singing.

I never figured out why they did a "Live" album, and picked and chose songs from years apart.

I'd rather them have done all songs from the Long Run tour than to do like they did. Especially when there's talking in it, where Glenn is talking about a "new" song that is on Hotel California that's either just came out, or getting ready to come out....and on the same album you have "The Long Run"

Delilah
08-29-2017, 04:28 PM
I would have liked to have seen them do an actual "Live" album from the Hotel California era, with Randy singing.

I never figured out why they did a "Live" album, and picked and chose songs from years apart.

I'd rather them have done all songs from the Long Run tour than to do like they did. Especially when there's talking in it, where Glenn is talking about a "new" song that is on Hotel California that's either just came out, or getting ready to come out....and on the same album you have "The Long Run"

I was so excited to read what Don said in the Runaway Tour Q&A about releasing a special edition of Hotel California. It's supposed to include live tracks from the HC tour. Maybe one of them, hopefully, will be SBR.

(NMB, I don't know if SBR was ever performed when Bernie was there; I bet that would sound awesome).

I can understand the Live album including TITTL from 1976, since the song was dropped from the Long Run Tour. I don't think they could have omitted TITTL entirely given what a show-stopper it was then. I'm not sure about the others though (NKIT, Desperado, WT). Maybe it was decided the best performances were from the '76 concert. :shrug:There was a string section used in Desperado and WT which I don't think was used in the '80 concert.

I don't know how these things were decided, but if the record company wanted to release a single to desperately promote the last Eagles' output, then it makes sense that the Long Run version of SBR was used. There was still probably hope that the Eagles would stay together and the single needed to reflect the most current line-up at the time.

Funk 50
08-29-2017, 05:05 PM
The Eagles understandably wanted to include Randy's Take it To The Limit on their 1980's live album.

Live albums were different beasts in the analog age. 1980 even predates VHS video.

After attending a great Genesis show in 1983, I remember buying the official concert video and being quite disappointed that part of the show had been cut to make way for some boring documentary footage. The official explanation was that the general belief in the industry was that a video of an entire 2 hour rock concert could not hold the interest of the purchaser!

I reckon part of the reason Joe got the job in the Eagles is his understanding of harmonics. He actually talks about vocal harmonies in one of his guitar tutorials. Explaining the importance of the parts that are inaudible.

I'm not surprised that Henley added some vocal overdubs to Seven Bridges Road apparently he's the Eagle that keeps working for better results after all the others are done.

Despite it not being on an Eagles studio album, Seven Bridges Road has become an Eagles standard. Henley and Felder have also included it in solo set lists and Walsh opened with it when he did a tour with supergroup, The Best in the 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_(band)

Delilah
08-30-2017, 12:34 PM
Despite it not being on an Eagles studio album, Seven Bridges Road has become an Eagles standard. Henley and Felder have also included it in solo set lists and Walsh opened with it when he did a tour with supergroup, The Best in the 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_(band)

The link isn't working. :shrug:

New Kid In Town
08-30-2017, 01:19 PM
The link did not work for me either. I heard the TIE video and thought it was pretty cool too. When listening to SBR, I was shocked to hear how deep Felder's voice is. I have been looking at you tube videos (sorry Don ) and noticed that a lot of times Don Felder did not even sing backing vocals. Also noticed the same about Joe to a lesser extent. It would just be Glenn, Don, Randy and Tim.
However, I love SBR, it is one of my favorite Eagles songs. I think it is a classic example of what was so special about them.

BillBailey1976
08-30-2017, 02:31 PM
Since there was obviously album quality recordings done from as early as 76, it makes you wonder how many times the Eagles had planned/attempted/contemplated a live album through the years, but for whatever reason abandoned it?

scottside
08-30-2017, 05:20 PM
Since there was obviously album quality recordings done from as early as 76, it makes you wonder how many times the Eagles had planned/attempted/contemplated a live album through the years, but for whatever reason abandoned it?

It would seem that way, but I guess they waited until they needed to get "product" out. Or at the very least, the record label (Asylum) did. I recall them being offered millions of dollars for one or two new songs to add to the package when it was finally being produced. And Glenn absolutely refused.

Funk 50
08-31-2017, 05:02 AM
Sorry about the link guys. I can't get it to work either :shrug:.

The Best isn't the best band name when you want to google some info. I had to put the names of individual band members in the search engine.

Here's a link to audio of the entire show but there is a fair bit of video too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CPzaw34fyY

This is a superstar lineup of the band known as "The Best". Shot at the Yokohama Arena in 1990 and broadcast on Japanese Satellite, this is an awesome show of approximately 90 minutes featuring some of the greatest tunes of each respective artist as chosen by the other performers as their favorites.

00:00 Seven Bridges Road / Life In the Fast Lane 13:05
07:29 My Wife 6:26
12:15 Bodhisattva 4:23
18:41 Fanfare For the Common Man 9:28
28:09 Rikki Don't Lose My Number 4:45
32:08 Simon drum solo 5:07
37:41 Rocky Mountain Way 3:53
45:54 Too Late the Hero 8:12
53:57 America / Look At Us Now 7:29
1:07:02 Boris the Spider 5:38
1:11:26 Reelin' In the Years 4:39
1:16:33 Takin' It To the Streets 8:02

John Entwistle - bass
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter - guitar
Joe Walsh - guitar
Keith Emerson - keys
Simon Phillips - drums

Rick Livingstone - vocals
Hamish Richardson - backing vocals
Angus Richardson - backing vocals
Fergus Richardson - backing vocals

New Kid In Town
08-31-2017, 08:53 AM
If I remember right, Asylum wanted the live album because they were very big at the time and the record company knew the band would not be going much longer. Also, the Eagles were contractually obligated to give Asylum one more album. They were offered two mil. for two new song to include on the album and Glenn (and I think Don H.) refused. Glenn had already checked out and I think he did not care what they did.

Delilah
08-31-2017, 12:43 PM
Since there was obviously album quality recordings done from as early as 76, it makes you wonder how many times the Eagles had planned/attempted/contemplated a live album through the years, but for whatever reason abandoned it?

The notion that there possibly could be recordings of other shows is tantalizing. And what happened to the rest of the concert from 1976? I can't help but wonder if someone is sitting on a goldmine (and who cares if some songs didn't get the overdub treatment).


Sorry about the link guys. I can't get it to work either :shrug:.

The Best isn't the best band name when you want to google some info. I had to put the names of individual band members in the search engine.

Here's a link to audio of the entire show but there is a fair bit of video too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CPzaw34fyY


Thank you for that, Funk 50. I watched a couple of video clips from that concert a while back and took some screenshots of Joe. He wasn't in the best shape I'm sad to say. Yet he still managed to tear it up.

I didn't know they performed SBR. I thought I heard Joe at times but I could be wrong.