The Forum, 22nd September 1976

[cosec3791]

To any mods, sorry if this seems to be in the wrong category.

When I first became a fan of the Eagles, I heard some songs of Eagles Live, and then 40th Anniversary. Amazing songs from The Forum. And just like Capital Center, I thought this was it. Nothing more would be released by stingy Henley and Azoff. But I was wrong. And glad that I was wrong.

Because I found the full concert of this, courtesy of a great friend of mine. This is from the last of the 3 nights at the Forum they did. I bet most of you thought that this was not even there. But it is, and I hope, sincerely you would all see this and enjoy and gush over it, just like I did. Great setlist with some new songs (at the time) from Hotel California, as well as concert staples and Joe Walsh stuff. Randy fans will LOVE TITTL. It is a beautiful, raw soulful rendition. But alas, Midnight Flyer was cut due to overwhelming audience noise. Funk #49 is not complete as well as Witchy Woman. But otherwise, amazing setlist and good quality audio. From this night, New Kid in Town was put in Eagles Live. Carol is also there!

Here is the link. Enjoy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLtvc1tB8HY

[Delilah]

Thanks for the link, cosec. I listened to about 1/2 so far. Is this an audience recording? It seems that way from some of the dialogue overheard throughout. I wish I could understand what Glenn is saying during his banter. He ad libs something towards the end of Lyin Eyes too (“can’t lose faith/face”?).

I’m disappointed that once again, Outlaw Man does not adequately highlight the bass solo. In this case, the bass is mixed too low and it’s hard to hear.

It’s cool to hear the explosion of applause for the “older” hits from OOTN. Apparently NKIT and Wasted Time are the same versions as in the Live album.

I agree that TITTL is awesome! I’m surprised it wasn’t used for Live and it sounds different from the version on the 40th Anniversary album. I love Glenn’s comment at the end: “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. For anyone interested, it starts at 36:15.

More thoughts on the rest later.

[cosec3791]

Thanks for the link, cosec. I listened to about 1/2 so far. Is this an audience recording? It seems that way from some of the dialogue overheard throughout. I wish I could understand what Glenn is saying during his banter. He ad libs something towards the end of Lyin Eyes too (“can’t lose faith/face”?).

I’m disappointed that once again, Outlaw Man does not adequately highlight the bass solo. In this case, the bass is mixed too low and it’s hard to hear.

It’s cool to hear the explosion of applause for the “older” hits from OOTN. Apparently NKIT and Wasted Time are the same versions as in the Live album.

I agree that TITTL is awesome! I’m surprised it wasn’t used for Live and it sounds different from the version on the 40th Anniversary album. I love Glenn’s comment at the end: “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. For anyone interested, it starts at 36:15.

More thoughts on the rest later.


Wow! Thanks for the reply! I honestly gave up on expecting replies for this post! Really appreciate it. Now I will address your points:

1)It is obviously an audience recording. The only soundboard without a pro shot vid available is 1980 The Forum.

2)Yeah, it is hard to hear any in between talks, music is good enough to me though. Lyin' Eyes was a wash for me though. I liked the Long Run versions the most.

3)Hate to break this to you, there is no Randy bass solo anymore. It's like as if they relegated Randy's place in this song to just "normal" bass. Felder and Frey are now the main focuses. They stopped Randy's solo since Walsh came in and changed the arrangement.

4)Yeah they are in Eagles Live. Fact: Hotel California from this night is featured in the Hotel California 40th Anniversary Edition live tracks. They also overdubbed Joe Walsh's solo. He stuffs it up in his part, if you haven't heard already.

5)No offence, but Randy's notes are better from the night of 20th Sept. (the Eagles Live one) than this. I may be wrong, but I feel this was the night which they took for the Hotel California 40th Anniversary live tracks.

Hope you share this with more people. Desperado is cut out to prevent copyrights (screw Henley and Azoff) but, amazing version.

Speaking of more stuff, my friends (they own the channel) might just get video of 1994 Giants Stadium as well as 1980 Santa Monica. If they get 1980 esp, I might have a slight heartattack!

Cheers

[Delilah]

Wow! Thanks for the reply! I honestly gave up on expecting replies for this post! Really appreciate it. Now I will address your points:

1)It is obviously an audience recording. The only soundboard without a pro shot vid available is 1980 The Forum.

2)Yeah, it is hard to hear any in between talks, music is good enough to me though. Lyin' Eyes was a wash for me though. I liked the Long Run versions the most.

3)Hate to break this to you, there is no Randy bass solo anymore. It's like as if they relegated Randy's place in this song to just "normal" bass. Felder and Frey are now the main focuses. They stopped Randy's solo since Walsh came in and changed the arrangement.

4)Yeah they are in Eagles Live. Fact: Hotel California from this night is featured in the Hotel California 40th Anniversary Edition live tracks. They also overdubbed Joe Walsh's solo. He stuffs it up in his part, if you haven't heard already.

5)No offence, but Randy's notes are better from the night of 20th Sept. (the Eagles Live one) than this. I may be wrong, but I feel this was the night which they took for the Hotel California 40th Anniversary live tracks.

Hope you share this with more people. Desperado is cut out to prevent copyrights (screw Henley and Azoff) but, amazing version.

Speaking of more stuff, my friends (they own the channel) might just get video of 1994 Giants Stadium as well as 1980 Santa Monica. If they get 1980 esp, I might have a slight heartattack!

Cheers

You’re welcome.

3) AFAIK, Randy still had a bass solo as of 1976 although it changed from the studio version and earlier live renditions.

5) whether it is “better” or not is a matter of opinion. As much as I love TITTL from Live, I’m well aware of all the studio overdubbing on that album and that includes Randy’s (although I don’t know exactly which parts he overdubbed). I only heard the bootleg version once so it could well be the same as the one on the 40th Anniversary, although I thought there were subtle differences not just in the high notes but other parts. I could be wrong, of course.

I think the 1994 Giants concert is the one where they look pissed off. The 1980 Santa Monica concert would be cool.

BTW, perhaps the thread title should be October not September?

[WalshFan88]

Thanks!

[cosec3791]

You’re welcome.

3) AFAIK, Randy still had a bass solo as of 1976 although it changed from the studio version and earlier live renditions.

5) whether it is “better” or not is a matter of opinion. As much as I love TITTL from Live, I’m well aware of all the studio overdubbing on that album and that includes Randy’s (although I don’t know exactly which parts he overdubbed). I only heard the bootleg version once so it could well be the same as the one on the 40th Anniversary, although I thought there were subtle differences not just in the high notes but other parts. I could be wrong, of course.

I think the 1994 Giants concert is the one where they look pissed off. The 1980 Santa Monica concert would be cool.

BTW, perhaps the thread title should be October not September?

Thanks for replying again. Can you please give me a good live version of Outlaw Man where Randy's bass solo was there? I'd love to hear it. But I really cannot hear in the OOTN tour performances.

And about TITTL, I understand. But I am slightly doubtful about overdubs. I mean, Randy was not in the band by the time. I am not sure about Randy coming back. But they are infamous for overdubs either way.

Idk about Giants Stadium where they are pissed off. Where did you hear that from? And it looks like most probably we are getting Giants Stadium and others. Doubting Santa Monica.

And finally, it should be October. How to change the title now?

[cosec3791]

Thanks!

You're welcome! How is it in your opinion? Any songs of note to you?

[YoungEaglesFan]

Thanks for the link, cosec. I listened to about 1/2 so far. Is this an audience recording? It seems that way from some of the dialogue overheard throughout. I wish I could understand what Glenn is saying during his banter. He ad libs something towards the end of Lyin Eyes too (“can’t lose faith/face”?).

I’m disappointed that once again, Outlaw Man does not adequately highlight the bass solo. In this case, the bass is mixed too low and it’s hard to hear.

It’s cool to hear the explosion of applause for the “older” hits from OOTN. Apparently NKIT and Wasted Time are the same versions as in the Live album.

I agree that TITTL is awesome! I’m surprised it wasn’t used for Live and it sounds different from the version on the 40th Anniversary album. I love Glenn’s comment at the end: “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. For anyone interested, it starts at 36:15.

More thoughts on the rest later.

I was listening to the Long Run live and after it Glenn says “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. I assume they must have gotten that comment from the TITTL live and edited it in. Why not just put it on the take it to the limit live? I love that comment too

[Freypower]

I was listening to the Long Run live and after it Glenn says “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. I assume they must have gotten that comment from the TITTL live and edited it in. Why not just put it on the take it to the limit live? I love that comment too


If I may say so, that makes that album even more of a fraud if they couldn't even be bothered matching the post song comment with the correct song or even year. That has been bafflling me for decades. I didn't think the performance of The Long Run (a song I dislike) was so great as to elicit that comment.

[sodascouts]

If I may say so, that makes that album even more of a fraud if they couldn't even be bothered matching the post song comment with the correct song or even year. That has been bafflling me for decades. I didn't think the performance of The Long Run (a song I dislike) was so great as to elicit that comment.

I have to agree - moving his compliment of Randy's vocal and applying it to another vocal entirely is really lame and makes the whole thing seem pretty phony. At least the music is good.

[YoungEaglesFan]

If I may say so, that makes that album even more of a fraud if they couldn't even be bothered matching the post song comment with the correct song or even year. That has been bafflling me for decades. I didn't think the performance of The Long Run (a song I dislike) was so great as to elicit that comment.

I too was surprised by that comment. Don’t get me wrong I LOVE that version of the song, more so due to the music especially the sax solo. But don’s vocal is good but nothing extradionary.

[Freypower]

I too was surprised by that comment. Don’t get me wrong I LOVE that version of the song, more so due to the music especially the sax solo. But don’s vocal is good but nothing extradionary.

Well yes, but that's the point. The comment wasn't made about that song in the first place. :roll:

[cosec3791]

Well yes, but that's the point. The comment wasn't made about that song in the first place. :roll:

Idk, I feel it is kinda cheap that they even did that. Also how is 76 The Forum?

[Delilah]

Thanks for replying again. Can you please give me a good live version of Outlaw Man where Randy's bass solo was there? I'd love to hear it. But I really cannot hear in the OOTN tour performances.


Well that was my point. There isn’t one that I know of. The most decent version would be ‘76 Seattle, I guess.



And about TITTL, I understand. But I am slightly doubtful about overdubs. I mean, Randy was not in the band by the time. I am not sure about Randy coming back. But they are infamous for overdubs either way.


The overdubs are pretty well documented. Randy himself has said he was asked to go back into the studio to do them, even though he had already quit the band. He probably still had some contractual obligations.




Idk about Giants Stadium where they are pissed off. Where did you hear that from?

And finally, it should be October. How to change the title now?

I didn’t just hear it, I watched it. The video footage shows up now and then on YT. I seem to recall whichever concert it was took place before they took a break due to Glenn’s health issues. So I assumed part of it was due to him not feeling well.

IDK about changing the title.

[NightMistBlue]

"The overdubs are pretty well documented. Randy himself has said he was asked to go back into the studio to do them, even though he had already quit the band."

Does anyone here know, or can guesstimate, when those overdubs may have taken place?

Some have speculated that Glenn 'n Don H's participation on Randy's solo album (released October 1980) was indication of some kind of quid pro quo for Randy cooperating with the Eagles Live album released in November 1980.

[Delilah]

I was listening to the Long Run live and after it Glenn says “we get to hear him sing that every night, we love it”. I assume they must have gotten that comment from the TITTL live and edited it in. Why not just put it on the take it to the limit live? I love that comment too

Wow, it had been awhile since I’d heard the Long Run from Live. That whole little dialogue that follows about saying hi to Vince Malamud (?) and J.D. Souther and the next song being NKIT is exactly what follows the bootleg version of TITTL, after the “we get to hear him...” comment.

[peneumbra]

Did Eagles ever play Staples Center? I don't remember them there, but I could've been out of town, or out of the country, or confined to a mental institution somewhere…

By the way, The Forum was a great place to see a hockey game, but a terrible place to listen to a concert - echo city. Staples, by contrast, is pretty decent.8)

[Freypower]

Did Eagles ever play Staples Center? I don't remember them there, but I could've been out of town, or out of the country, or confined to a mental institution somewhere…

By the way, The Forum was a great place to see a hockey game, but a terrible place to listen to a concert - echo city. Staples, by contrast, is pretty decent.8)

I am sure they played the Staples Centre on more recent tours.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Yep - the Eagles played the Staples Center several times, most notably, their Millennium concert.

And, I know the Forum was known to have a lousy sound system, but several of us Borderers went to the first couple of opening shows the Eagles did after it was renovated, and the sound was awesome. So, now, it is considered to be one of the best arenas for a concert.