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		"Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		Time for the "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor, where we vote off Don's solo music videos until we get to the last one standing!
 
 If you're new, for a basic overview of the game, see this post: Survivor Overview
 
 I'm going to list all Don’s solo music videos here. Vote for the video that you feel should be eliminated from the list. The video that gets the most votes will be taken off of the list (or, in the language of Survivor, "voted off of the island.") Each round, one more video will get axed, until there's only one left. Remember: you're voting for your LEAST favorite, not your favorite.
 
 Each round will last 48 hours after posting to give people a chance to vote who don't post every day. That means that the first round will end at 8:00 Eastern Standard Time the day after tomorrow. If you miss a round, don't think you can't play. It's all good!
 
 Since there may be discussion posts, be sure to make it clear when you are casting your vote. Votes cannot be cast after the cut off time of 8:00 on the second day, and they cannot be changed once you have voted. This holds true even if your vote is a mistake. Sorry, them's the rules!
 
 If you get confused about what round we are in, look at this post. I'll always update it to reflect the current round. Also feel free to post any questions if you don't understand what's going on.
 
 If there is a tie in any round, then ALL votes from ALL previous rounds are tallied and whichever video has the most prior votes is eliminated. That’s the way it’s done on the real show, that’s the way it’s done here. If there is a complete tie with prior votes (Murphy’s Law), then I'll have a sudden-death trivia question ready. The first person who answers it correctly gets to break the tie. The odds of that happening are slim, but you never know, and it's good to be prepared.
 
 The tie-breaker question will be asked one hour after results are in, if there is need for it. The exception is the last round. If the tie-breaker does not resolve the last round, then the tie will be allowed to stand.
 
 We also have immunity questions. We won't have immunity questions on the first or second-to-last-rounds, and of course we won't have them for the last round, lol. However, for the other rounds, we will.
 
 Here's how immunity questions work. After the end of the round, I ask a Henley-related question. The first person who answers the question correctly gets to pick a remaining video to be immune - no one can vote for it on the next round. You must include both your answer and the video you wish to be immune in your post in order for it to count. I'll allow two hours for someone to answer. If no one gets it right by then, then we continue the round as normal without any video being immune. You only get one guess per round, so be careful!
 
 So now – let’s have some fun and enjoy the game!
 
 
 
 Okay, the winner of the "Don Henley Music Videosz" Survivor Game is ...
 
 The End of the Innocence
 
 Eliminated Videos:
 Everything Is Different Now  6/25
 Johnny Can't Read  6/27
 The Heart of the Matter  6/29
 For My Wedding 7/01
 Not Enough Love In the World  7/03
 Taking You Home  7/05
 All She Wants To Do Is Dance 7/07
 The Last Worthless Evening  7/09
 The Boys of Summer  7/11
 
 The game is over.
 
 Thanks for playing everyone.
 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		No question  my first vote goes to Everything is Different Now,  That video is just plain creepy and weird and makes no sense  :eyebrow: 
 
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		I'm voting for Johnny Can't Read. 
 
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				Originally Posted by  EagleLady  
No question  my first vote goes to Everything is Different Now,  That video is just plain creepy and weird and makes no sense  :eyebrow: 
 
 
 Amen to this! It is AWFUL. I vote it off, too.
 
 
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		I'm with DonFan and EagleLady. Such a sweet, lovely song. Such a grotesque, horrible video.
 
 I cast my vote for Everything Is Different Now.
 
 
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		I vote for Everything is Different Now. 
 
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				Originally Posted by  sodascouts  
I'm with DonFan and EagleLady. Such a sweet, lovely song. Such a grotesque, horrible video.
 
 I cast my vote for Everything Is Different Now.
 
 
 
 Me too!  I vote for EIDN!
 
 
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		My vote is for Johnny Can't Read 
 
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		Why Johnny Can't Read? That one makes sense, EIDN is EEK  :fear: 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		EL, while I agree that the EIDN video is EEK, I don’t agree with you that the video makes no sense. I totally get the message the video is supposed to convey. The problem I have with it is that while attempting to depict Don’s past lifestyle with the horrible imagery and characters, they forget to show how "everything is different now". I think that the video maybe could have actually been effective if it were less grotesque and they had shown a contrast between the two lives.
 
 I do agree though that the video just doesn’t work to complement the song at all. It actually detracts from the song and it deserves to be the first to be voted off. However, since it won’t need my help, I am going to cast a strategic vote.
 
 I cast my vote for The Heart of the Matter.
 
 BTW - where are all of our Survivor game players? You have until tonight at 8:00 p.m. ET to cast your vote in this round.
 
 
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		I vote for Everything Is Different Now.
 
 I don't feel as strongly about it as many previous posters - Dreamer got it spot on, for me, I know exactly what it was trying to convey - but it's just my least favourite of the lot.
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Ive always been a dreamer  
 BTW - where are all of our Survivor game players? You have until tonight at 8:00 p.m. ET to cast your vote in this round.
 
 
 
 I'm afraid I'm not familiar with a few of these and if I have seen them, it's been EONS ago and so I don't feel it's fair for me to play. I did order my dvd this morning so with any luck I will get it very soon and can get in on the last few rounds.
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Ive always been a dreamer  
I cast my vote for The Heart of the Matter. 
 
 
 OMG!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:    :headscratch:
 :woah:
 :argue:
 :pace:
 :cuss:
 
 :laugh:
 
 As far as EIDN, I love the song, but just can't watch that video!  At first I was going to vote for Johnny, but even that video is better than this one!
 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		Brooke, remember, this is voting on the video, not the song. The Heart of the Matter is my favorite solo song of Henley's. I find it incredibly moving. However, the video is bizarre and nonsensical to the point of being immensely distracting from the power of the song. I'm gonna be voting for it once we get rid of the wretched video for Everything Is Different Now. 
 
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		Of course this is all JMHO. Perhaps I'm just not getting the message of the video for HOTM. Anyone wanna try and explain it to me? I'd especially like to know why the little girl abandoning the old guy to die in the dirt at the end is "about forgiveness."
 
 http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/hotm27.jpg
 
 Edited to add: To be fair, I did conduct my own analysis of the video for DHO, and this is what I came up with:
 Perhaps the old man represents past hurt and resentment and the child a future without such baggage.  The workers perhaps represent the human struggle, fraught with a sense of hopelessness and oppression. Henley's  old-fashioned surroundings from different time periodsmight (and I emphasize MIGHT) signify him as an observer outside of time. This is just me guessing, though. 
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  EagleLady  
Why Johnny Can't Read? That one makes sense, EIDN is EEK :fear: 
 
 
 I can certainly understand the eekiness of EIDN.
 
 HOTM is one of the multi-layered videos that I tend to like more than just the cut and dry subjects. I know it speaks of forgiveness between a man and woman relationship but for someone who isn't in a relationship it also helps to convey more than just the message of a relationship between a man and woman. Maybe the effects of the broken relationship is where the little girl comes in, I guess this because of the angry look she gives as she looks in the circus tent. The woman in the field is working to restore something and the man is so weighed down with something that he finally hits the ground. Of course I too am guessing. :)
 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		Actually I think interpreting these videos can be part of the fun of this Survivor!  Thanks for your ideas, FFL. 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		For what it's worth I agree with Soda about the HOTM video.  To me the imagery has nothing to do with the song.
 
 Regarding EIDN, I agree with Dreamer's comments about it.  He forgot to include the 'everything is different now' part.
 
 
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		Results of Round 1: Everything Is Different Now 
		The first video to be voted off the island in the "Don Henley Music Videos” Survivor is Everything Is Different Now. “Everything Is Different Now,” we hope you can smile and bow out gracefully. Please leave the island immediately. The remaining videos may return to camp.
 
 Votes
 Everything Is Different Now – 6
 Johnny Can’t Read – 3
 The Heart of the Matter – 1
 
 Vote Breakdown
 Everything Is Different Now – EagleLady
 Everything Is Different Now – DonFan
 Everything Is Different Now – sodascouts
 Everything Is Different Now – Koala
 Everything Is Different Now – Brooke
 Everything Is Different Now - troubadour
 Johnny Can’t Read – Fan For Life
 Johnny Can’t Read – Freypower
 Johnny Can’t Read – Peekaboo
 The Heart of the Matter – Ive always been a dreamer
 
 Videos eliminated:
 Everything Is Different Now
 
 Videos remaining:
 Johnny Can't Read
 The Boys of Summer
 All She Wants To Do Is Dance
 Not Enough Love In the World
 The End of the Innocence
 The Last Worthless Evening
 The Heart of the Matter
 Taking You Home
 For My Wedding
 
 
 Voting for Round 2 will begin after the following immunity question is answered:
 
 What solo Henley album(s) had the least number of music videos filmed?
 
 
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		I Can't Stand Still (there was only a video for Johnny Can't Read).
 
 I would like The Last Worthless Evening to be immune please.
 
 
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		That's correct, FP.
 
 The Last Worthless Evening is immune.
 
 Voting for Round Two begins now.
 
 
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		I'll go with For My Wedding 
 
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		Once again I cast my vote for Johnny Can't Read.  It's just awkward. 
 
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		It may be just me but I refuse to see how it's awkward 
 
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		Johnny Can't Read for me again as well. Not that I don't like the video, just not as interesting to me as any others since then. 
 
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		My vote is for Johnny Can't Read again.
 
 Although I think that Don looks adorable in it, the video is just two cheesy and corny for me. I know it was the 80's but still, too corny.
 
 
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				Originally Posted by  Freypower  
For what it's worth I agree with Soda about the HOTM video. To me the imagery has nothing to do with the song.
 
 Regarding EIDN, I agree with Dreamer's comments about it. He forgot to include the 'everything is different now' part.
 
 
 
 The imagery for me comes when a song is made into a video, also when I hear the song, but that is only me creating my own imagery. The video lets the artist create something that reflects the general population rather than just words in a song. And we the viewers are able to understand the artist as well as how it could reflect our lives. Visualization helps me to understand what is meant or could be meant by the written/sung lyrics.
 
 And since EIDN went down in flames, the "everything is different now" is not clearly present but as in personal interpretation, in the end he did turn around and leave it all behind. I think the grotesqueness comes from looking on a former life and seeing it wasn't as pretty as it was at the time.
 
 
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		Yes, that is all in the lyrics, but in this game we are specifically discussing the video. Nowhere in the video do we ever see how his life has been turned around. I take your point about the grotesque being emphasised here, but there is far too much of that angle in this video.
 
 Regarding the HOTM video, I would appreciate it if you could explain how the specific imagery in this video helps you to understand the song.
 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		In the video for EIDN, he does leave the lifestyle behind symbolically in that "Normal Don" walks away from "Frankendon." FrankenDon is still in the midst of the mutant people who represent the apparently extreme depth of Don's depravity in his "past life." Since the mutants seem to be engaged in a lot of sexualized behavior - examples include two mutants literally eating each other's tongues while making out, a headless stripper dancing on a bar, a lover's caresses that become a fisting of grotesquely unnatural gelatinus skin - it seems the focus is on sexual depravity. All I can say is YIKES.
 
 However, I do see what FFL is saying. I just wish that they had given us more than those few seconds to represent the positive change in his life.
 
 But as for this round....
 
 I cast my vote for Heart of the Matter for reasons mentioned earlier.
 
 
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		I cast my vote for Johnny Can't Read. 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		OK-disregard my previous post here---I do know these videos and have refreshed my memory of the ones I wasn't sure of.
 
 First- I have to ask tho is WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THE BLACK AND WHITE VIDEOS? :eyebrow:
 
 Second--thanks to all of you that managed to get EIDN voted off first-I truly forgot how awful and disturbing that video is.
 
 Third- Going on record here with you EL---I love Johnny Can't Read and all of the 80's cheesiness about it!
 
 Fourth-I must go on record as saying I love to see a lot of the artist in my videos. The stories are ok and all, especially if they kind of explain the song, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Again, I don't tend to analyze as much as I just like to enjoy watching a video and a performance. I know, I'm just simple. :hilarious:
 
 I had to keep reminding myself while rewatching these we are voting on the VIDEO not the song, with that being said I cast my vote for...
 
 For My Wedding --I just find it extremely boring.
 
 
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		Re: "Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game 
		I'm obviously going to have to refresh my memory on some of these, too.  So, are there links to all of these videos here?  Dreamers list doesn't have links to all of them. 
 
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		Yes, all are there except Garden of Allah which I have in such wretched quality it's not worth the bother.
 
 The ones that are not linked are the ones available on the new DVD which presents the videos in much higher quality and is therefore far preferable.
 
 
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		Well, I haven't found it yet, so go to DHO? 
 
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		Yep, Brooke, they're all there.  :-) 
 
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				Originally Posted by  TimothyBFan  
First- I have to ask tho is WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THE BLACK AND WHITE VIDEOS? :eyebrow:
 
 
 
 
 He did do a lot of these, didn't he? At the time  some artists seemed to think they were being 'profound' if the thing was shot in B&W and he had so much success with the BOS video that I guess he thought it worked. When we get to Glenn's videos, I think only three are in black & white.
 
 
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