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Someday, somewhere, some poster who doesn't like Henley or the Eagles will come up with something more original than Denis Leary's line (which I find funny, I admit, but it has been overused) or The Dude's fictional line if they think Henley/Eagles are wrong on some issue. I am not holding my breath. Article good, comments mostly pathetic.
I have only 2 words to say..... NARROW MINDEDNESS!!!
Seriously! I thought the same thing. How long ago did Leary say that? Early nineties, right? And The Big Lebowski came out in the late nineties. That's over a decade ago, folks, and in Leary's case nigh on 20 years. Get some new lines, people. If you're going to be insulting you can at least be clever about it... but perhaps that's too much to ask from people who instead of addressing Don's opinions on an intellectual level, prefer to attack him personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
We have addressed this before but the band recorded How Long only because Soda put the old version on YouTube and Glenn's kids watched it. I suppose if Don was against recording it for this reason he kept quiet.
That's something that's always mystified me about Don's hard-line attitude towards YouTube.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
Glenn was very open about getting the idea to record "How Long" from his kids/wife watching the 1973 video of them performing it in Holland on YouTube (which, as FP points out, I uploaded - both on YouTube and on GFO). That song was subsequently released as the lead single off of Long Road Out of Eden and demonstrably generated revenue for them, not to mention the song won a freaking Grammy.... yet Don chooses to ignore this fact when castigating YouTube.
Obviously, he has problems with YouTube on a theoretical level in spite of how it has benefited him on a practical level. If he wants to concentrate on the theoretical, he has every right to do so, but I think in the interest of fairness Don should at least acknowledge that benefit when discussing YouTube.
Just trying to get caught up on this thread and I have to admit that I never thought of this but it is a very valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
On the heels of our discussion, here is a funny blog detailing a history of Henley or Eagles song spoofs:
http://flavorwire.com/110605/the-hil...ence-a-history
Note the "Avocado" reference! Great minds think alike.
BTW I had no idea William Hung had covered Hotel California... SO BAD.
I didn't know that either until I read it somewhere else recently. That is one cover I am NOT going to search for. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
I'm sorry Weird Al! I didn't know you had thought of Avocado first! :fear:
I'm sure yours is better, PM. Hopefully Weird Al will never try to sue you. ;)
Aww thanks Soda - I think!
Judge for yourself (it's part of a medley so it's very brief):
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseN-YJxbtY[/ame]
For those unfamiliar with it, check out PM's:
https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/...cado#post77917
ETA: Just went back and re-read that parody thread. Oh my gosh, it was hilarious!
That was great, PM! You've got Weird Al all beat to heck. LOL!
Yeah, that thread was a lot of fun.
Don gets a mention as a financial supporter of Senate incumbent Harry Reid to the tune of $2400:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...-on-star-power
Don Henley Airs Conservative Views on Copyright Law
Henley blames 'online retailers' for 'bullying' recording industry
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/194542
Nothing new there huh? Poor Don, fighting a losing battle.
The suggestion to remove copyright law enforcement from under the purview of the Library of Congress to the Dept. of Commerce aspect is new. I hadn't heard that before. I guess he feels the DoC would be more aggressive and come down harder, but the issue he complains about - The DMCA's "Safe Harbor" legal protection of sites like YouTube - would not be affected by such a move. The courts have ruled on that. (See Viacom vs. YouTube decision. Of couse, Viacom is appealing.)
He also for the first time admits the futility of constantly policing the sites and recognizes the ill-will it generates among the fan community:
So he knows this, but apparently he still feels it is worth his while to persist in the removals. I don't get that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley in Rolling Stone
At any rate, I'm not sure why Rolling Stone seems so astonished by his viewpoint. Where have they been?
I think the key is the word 'conservative'. They expect someone who is known for his 'liberal' views to be less 'rigid' on issues such as this. They don't spend much time following this sort of case because it would mean less time for them to salivate over the every move of certain other artists I will not name.
Some responses to Don's statements. They make interesting reading.
"Don Henley Still Really Confused" - TechDirt.com
"Don Henley: 'Eliminate or Drastically Reduce Safe Harbor Provision'" - ZeroPaid.com
"Trade Groups: Policing Our General Copyrights Is Just Too Hard" - Ars Technica
"Don Henley: 'Copyright Office Clearly Has Not Been a Strong Enough Advocate for Copyright Holders'" - Clancco
Here's an exclusive interview with Don from Diablo (San Fransisco East Bay Magazine) about a solo concert on September 20th! at Wente Vineyards. Sounds like a great opportunity to see Don close up and personal *G*
Awesome Exclusive Interview with Don Henley of the Eagles
Cool! Some comments about the interview:
- How old is this reporter to entitle his story "Awesome Exclusive Interview with Don Henley"?
- People talking on cell phones during concerts - especially when doing so loud enough for the artist to hear - need to have their butts kicked. The texting, while rude, at least isn't disruptive to others. I remember at the Chicago show seeing the person next to me checking their e-mail via iPhone in the middle of the concert and I'm thinking "Seriously???" But it's become an addiction. They don't even understand it's rude anymore, I think. I told my class the other day, "Put away your cell phones while I'm teaching. I don't want them to be out anywhere you can see them, because I know you'll be glancing at them, your fingers itching to touch them, desperate longing on your face, and I want to help you resist the temptation to sneak a peek." I got some laughs as I continued in a melodramatic voice, "I know how you love your dear cell phone, how you clutch it to your chest and say 'Cell phone, I need you! I adore you! You are everything to me!' - but you and the love of your life will have to be separated for the next 50 minutes."
- "What is the most satisfying thing about the ongoing success of the band, and being able to perform 'Already Gone' to stadium crowds after all these years?" Don was polite not to reply "We don't." But his abrupt answer shows his annoyance, I think. Still, they play an excerpt from that song on their ad for the tour...
The interview picks up after that, though.
I'm with Don that "Waiting in the Weeds" is extremely underrated. What a masterpiece.
I didn't know that - cool. Like the author, I like to find out little things like who these guys hang with and consider good friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley in Diablo
Oooh! This is promising! Don Henley goes hard-core country. He's letting the Texan go wild (although I think the only time he is "quasi-redneck" is when he lies out too long by his mansion's swimming pool). I bet it will be great. On a side note, I have read interviews where Glenn said he planned to do this back in 1994 (hence the country-flavored "Girl from Yesterday" on HFO), but that never materialized. Don has a better track record of actually following through with such things, though, much as I admire Glenn. I haven't forgotten about Glenn's stated intention to make an album of big band covers, but since that was several years ago now, I think I should. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
And check out the story Don tells about a US spy plane crew in a prison camp, amongst other stories. Fascinating. He must be so proud.
I read that interview earlier too. Loved the stores about HC! How amazing that must feel! I laughed at Don's response about the greatest achievement being the ongoing success of the band because it was short and to the point, and obviously a little on the annoyed side. lol
I find it interesting that it seems Don is more comfortable doing e-mail interviews, while the rest of the guys do phone interviews. I guess he appreciates the fact that e-mail interviews give him more time to think and craft his responses to perfection. ;)
I 100% agree! Even during phone interviews or face to face interviews, it seems like Don often pauses to give thought to what he's going to say. I can only imagine that he likes the extra time he gets with the email versions. lol
When I first started reading this, I was afraid he was going to say that the detainees were tortured by having to listen to Hotel California over and over. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
Good interview.
Finally got time to read that interview. Loved it!
So, has WITW been released as a single? How can he expect it to become 'rated' if it's not released? The average music listener won't ever hear it. It's my very favorite on the LROOE cds.
Loved the stories about HC, too! :cool:
http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta...ey-651970.html
Q&A: Don Henley of the Eagles
Looks like we guessed right there!Quote:
Originally Posted by AccessAtlanta
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
Especially if a speech means we'll have a shorter encore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
It's true we're all allies, but his reason for "pump-up" sure is negative. I always thought it was to build solidarity and a feeling of brotherhood - no matter what happens, we're in it together. And didn't they used to do something like this by singing "Seven Bridges Road" back in the day? Did he view performing back then as trying to crush an opponent? Not the audience, necessarily, but perhaps personal demons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
Or I might be making too much out of that statement!
This is so cool. It reminds me of Lindsey Buckingham putting out two albums in as many years - one acoustic and one electric. Just record the songs at one time and put them on the album that fits 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
Ooh, work the local angle. Smooth, Don, smooth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Henley
And then, he goes on to diss Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Nothing new there.
As for Twitter, here's what I get when I do a search for "Don Henley":
http://twitter.com/search/users?q=do...ind_on_twitter
But in all seriousness, I can relate to the fraud aspect at least. Some of you may remember this:
https://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/...ead.php?t=1666
http://www.austin360.com/music/acl-f...es-952763.html
ACL Fest 2010 preview: The Eagles
It's a Don Henley interview
"You could say that those songs have memorable melodies, married to decent lyrics."
Excessive modesty, party of one...
http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20...-few-questions
Don Henley of the Eagles answers a few questions
Henley shares views on legacy, music industry
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive..._industry.aspx
Well, that was a very interesting read. I particularly liked the optimism displayed in the last question :thumbsup: ...
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JM: In an interview with CNN, you said that your latest album will probably be the last for The Eagles. After so many years, how does a band come to a decision like this, or know when it's time to stop?
DH: Well, that statement was just my personal opinion. The band, as a unit, hasn’t come to any such decision.
In any case, I think we’ll know, intuitively, when it’s time to stop. But it would be foolish to hang it up, now, when we’re still filling arenas and stadiums all over the world.
We’re enjoying the fruits of our labor.
Of course the part Dreamer quoted caught my eye too, but Mr. Henley made me stop and think with this.
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I’d hate to be starting out in these times, in this throw-away culture. So many things, now, are ephemeral, disposable. Nothing seems to be made to last and I think that’s because we’ve lost our attentiveness, our discernment, both as creators and consumers.
We don’t demand quality, so we don’t get it. There is still some good music being made, but a lot of what’s out there, now — to borrow a phrase from “Hamlet” — is just “... sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
But, everything runs in cycles and, sooner or later, we’ll come to the end of this one.
One of Don's better interviews; very well-written. You can tell he took some time with it. He makes good sense and I can understand where's he coming from better with this article than some of his others. He makes a lot of good points.
I agree that all things go in cycles, and in the digital era, those cycles become shorter and shorter. Look at MySpace - it used to be ubiquitous, but now it's fading. For good or for ill, nothing lasts forever.... and that includes corporations.
I found his comments about the money being in touring now to be food for thought. If it's true that the music industry is going back to being live-based, it would ironically be a throwback to pre-acetate days when being a musician meant being able to sing for your supper on a regular basis. Music was still a business - instruments have been made and sold for thousands of years; you can find them in ancient Egypt. People were paid to sing and play. They might not have become billionaires, but they were able to make a living doing what they loved. The profession of the musician has been around long before the evolution of the record company and will continue even if that corporate entity collapses.
Then, people could not hide their inadequacies through studio tricks. Perhaps it is time for a return to that paradigm. In such a paradigm, the attitude would become "They sounded great live; let's buy their stuff" rather than the record-label paradigm, which is the opposite. Their attitude: "You need us to get your name out there; that's the only way people will buy your album. Then, if they like it, they'll go see you live and buy more."
Don is right that in such a system - the system in which he and the Eagles thrived - the record labels are necessary. In the live-based scenario, perhaps they will not be, especially as the power of the internet continues to grow. What Don sees as a "myth" now might become quite possible before long.
After all, Mozart didn't need a record company to have a "lifetime career of scale."
Industries change. I bet the carriage-making industry was hit hard when everybody started using those darn cars.... cycles indeed.
And I bet that in 50 years, Google will also be a thing looked back upon with nostalgia and missed by those who benefited from that "sovereign nation."
In the end, though, it's all about the music. It's wrong to illegally download songs and I condemn that, but such behavior won't destroy music. Nothing can do that.
Oh dear, oh dear. I am sorry Don, but the words 'sound and fury signifying nothing ' are from Macbeth, not Hamlet. They are from the greatest soliloquy of all time which begins 'tomorrow & tomorrow & tomorrow/creeps in this petty pace from day to day'.
The relevant part is:
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing
I can understand why he might confuse it with Hamlet, however.
Please excuse me getting on my Shakespearean high horse. His comments were very interesting.
Yeah, he messed up on attribution, but at least the quote itself was used effectively within the context of what Don was saying. I always respect the incorporation of Shakespeare! Besides, he gave some props to his college profs, so I refrained from drawing attention to his slip-up. ;)
By the way, something just occurred to me... I wonder if the wording of the line from Waiting in the Weeds - "while peacocks prance and strut upon the stage" - is inspired by Macbeth's bitterly despairing soliloquy?
Don Henley on the Eagles: 'It Would Be Foolish to Hang It Up Now'
http://www.670kboi.com/rssItem.asp?f...temid=29591188
Right you are Don, right you are!!! :thumbsup: