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If you listen to this interview with Mark Hudson http://www.idigbig.com/pages/markhudson.html at about the 7 minute point Tim talks about ICTYW and how he "came to Don and Glenn with this piece of music and it was all set"Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
It's quite disappointing that Don makes such comments about his bandmates: I keep thinking Tim and Joe did a great job on this album and contributed to the "eagles sound".
What does Joe do on this album apart from sing lead on his two token songs? I assume he plays the solo on the title track. What else does he do? He does not appear to sing any backing vocals.
I don't subscribe to the 'blame Glenn Frey' theory. I believe it was a courageous decision to go with a double album. Perhaps he realised that if it were only mainly Henley songs with a couple of his, his songs would get drowned out. Perhaps if he had made more of an effort to match Henley lyrically, write something more substantial, there would not have been this stuff about 'superfluous' songs.
The sad thing is that both YANA and IYWN are probably very meaningful songs to Glenn, even if they are not deeply serious rants about politics. I initially thought that Don believed IYWN was one of the 'important' songs. If he still does, he isn't saying so.
Tim's vocal definitely are contributing to the Eagles sound. Joe's songs do as well but otherwise... for some reason, he seems to not be utilized to his fullest potential, to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire
He may not even play lead on the title track. Apparently Smith has taken over as lead guitarist for the Eagles on Don's songs, at least, such as Frail Grasp. Don't ask me why. I saw Joe play with the James Gang and he can still rock. Personally, I think it's wrong to shove him aside for Smith - even live at the CMAs!!! What were they thinking? Joe could have handled the solo for How Long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
More of an effort? I think Glenn is doing what he wants to do, not doing what requires the least effort! And I don't believe his songs are "superfluous." That's Henley's opinion. I think his censure also applies to some of Tim and Joe's material - at least that is implied here.Quote:
I don't subscribe to the 'blame Glenn Frey' theory. I believe it was a courageous decision to go with a double album. Perhaps he realised that if it were only mainly Henley songs with a couple of his, his songs would get drowned out. Perhaps if he had made more of an effort to match Henley lyrically, write something more substantial, there would not have been this stuff about 'superfluous' songs.
Well, Don HAS said the he feels the lyrics "Be a part of something good; leave something good behind" are the most important lyrics of the album.Quote:
The sad thing is that both YANA and IYWN are probably very meaningful songs to Glenn, even if they are not deeply serious rants about politics. I initially thought that Don believed IYWN was one of the 'important' songs. If he still does, he isn't saying so.
You answered your own question about why Steuart played the How Long solo at the CMA Awards. He plays it on the record. The video is a repeat of Felder miming the ICTYW solo. I'm baffled by why Steuart has suddenly been elevated to lead guitarist and why Glenn apparently complied with this.
When I said 'make more effort' I meant from Henley's perspective in terms of writing 'substantial' songs. But a couple of Glenn's songs are very short, and they appear to have been swamped.
I wonder if Glenn foresaw that when he allowed Don to record on his own that Don would only promote Don's half of the album.
Dang, I hadn't thought of it that way... ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
Yeah - as much as I love Don - I do wish that he would refrain from making these types of comments in public. It really does make him appear petty and difficult, and certainly must not serve to improve relations with his band members. Seems to me like he's insinuating - hey, if the album is a flop, it's not my fault.
Lots of good questions and speculations here and I'd like to add my 2 cents.
I love the album. Really, I couldn't be much more happy with it. Of course, I don't love every song. But that's a given.
I'm very disappointed that Don seems to have abandoned the drums. He is the Eagles drummer and he should play them more often than not. I wonder if he plans to play them on any of the new songs at all? He never mentions his "bad back" in any of the interviews, although, I don't think any of the interviewers have asked him about it. I understand that he might want to do something a little different once in a while, but still.
I'm also disappointed that Joe has been sidelined and Stuart has taken over as lead guitarist. Maybe Joe just can't cut it anymore as far as writing and performing new songs. Maybe the old ones are all he can handle these days. They are so ingrained in the memory that they are second nature to him. Yes, I know he put on wonderful shows with the James Gang last year, but did he do anything new? I hope it's not the case, but why else? I also wonder why Glenn doesn't do more leads. Are they just going to let Steuart take over, even though he's not an Eagle? He's fantastic, but are they just being lazy?
It really irritates me that Don thinks it's fine to make such nasty comments about some of the songs. How hurtful to his bandmates. As far as him thinking his songs are so much more important, that's not what I look for in a song. The overall melody and voices are what interest me most. It can be a political rant or sappy love song, or wild, funny song from Don, Glenn, Tim or Joe, or anyone.
I guess if Glenn, who's supposed to be in charge, doesn't care about all this stuff, who am I? He seems to have given Don the go ahead to promote as he sees fit! :?
I've already stated elsewhere that I'm a bit miffed as to way that Don has already commented on this album. On the Nicky Horne interview, Glenn is so upbeat and complimentary about Don and the others, I feel Don could lay his misgivings aside and be a bit more upbeat. This is an album to be proud of, and will be listened to in 20, 30, 40 years time, which is more than can be said for much of the stuff churned out today.