"Don Henley Music Videos" Survivor Game

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Originally Posted by TimothyBFan

WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THE BLACK AND WHITE VIDEOS? :eyebrow:

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I agree with FP that he got so many accolades for Boys of Summer, shot in black and white, that Henley decided to run with it. Hey, at least Last Worthless Evening was blue-tinged. ;) It was also considered more artsy and suited for a serious subject. There is also a very retro feel to The End of the Innocence which would justify black and white at least in that case.

Also, I think I've heard black and white videos are supposed to be more flattering.... hence How Long. Not sure if I see it but that's what they say.

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Originally Posted by Freypower

Yes, that is all in the lyrics, but in this game we are specifically discussing the video. Nowhere in the video do we ever see how his life has been turned around. I take your point about the grotesque being emphasised here, but there is far too much of that angle in this video.

Regarding the HOTM video, I would appreciate it if you could explain how the specific imagery in this video helps you to understand the song.

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I'll explain it the best I can in as little words as possible. Before I see most videos I've already heard the song numerous times, having already created a personal image of the songs meaning. As most of us know you can't approach Don's songs without knowing he writes lyrics that can be interpreted other ways, sorta cryptic messages, if you will.

Simply the song itself speaks of a love relationship between a man and woman long gone, and trying to get passed the guilt/hurt by forgiving and forgetting. The video reflects this which is why you see Don walking alone and sitting alone on the couch. The inclusion of the old man, lady worker, child, etc. take the song to a whole other level. So that is why I can take the imagery and relate it to the song itself. Because I think past face value. Now the imagery itself may seem odd but because I approach music on a personal level it's easy for me to take more from a video/song than what is intended by the creators of either craft.

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

Of course this is all JMHO. Perhaps I'm just not getting the message of the video for HOTM. Anyone wanna try and explain it to me? I'd especially like to know why the little girl abandoning the old guy to die in the dirt at the end is "about forgiveness."

Edited to add: To be fair, I did conduct my own analysis of the video for DHO, and this is what I came up with:Perhaps the old man represents past hurt and resentment and the child a future without such baggage. The workers perhaps represent the human struggle, fraught with a sense of hopelessness and oppression. Henley's old-fashioned surroundings from different time periods might (and I emphasize MIGHT) signify him as an observer outside of time. This is just me guessing, though.

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Soda, your analysis seems about as reasonable of anything else that I can come up with. And FFL, thanks for your explanation. However, I must admit I am still unable to take the imagery from the video and effectively relate it to the song itself. I think I get what the creators were trying to do in the video, but I don't think it works at all. The song itself is so beautiful with its straight-forward eloquence that the video does absolutely nothing that helps me appreciate or understand the song better. In fact, trying to analyze the connection is just a huge distraction for me. So for that reason ...

I cast my vote for The Heart of the Matter.

The next video to be voted off the island in the "Don Henley Music Videos” Survivor is Johnny Can’t Read. “Johnny Can’t Read,” summer is here but you have gone to seed. Please leave the island immediately. The remaining videos may return to camp.

Votes
Johnny Can’t Read – 4
For My Wedding – 2
The Heart of the Matter – 2

Vote Breakdown
Johnny Can’t Read – Freypower
Johnny Can’t Read – Fan_For_Life
Johnny Can’t Read – Peekaboo
Johnny Can’t Read – Koala
The Heart of the Matter – sodascouts
The Heart of the Matter – Ive always been a dreamer
For My Wedding – EagleLady
For My Wedding – TimothyBFan

Videos eliminated:
Everything Is Different Now
Johnny Can't Read

Videos remaining:
The Boys of Summer
All She Wants To Do Is Dance
Not Enough Love In the World
The End of the Innocence
The Last Worthless Evening
The Heart of the Matter
Taking You Home
For My Wedding


Voting for Round 3 will begin after the following immunity question is answered:

Which video in this game won an MTV Award for ‘Best Video’ of the year?

Boys of Summer.

I would like The End of the Innocence to be immune.

Gah, You beat me to it Lou :hilarious:

Yes troub, that is correct.

The End of the Innocence is immune.

Voting for Round 3 begins now.

Once Again, I vote for For My Wedding

I cast my vote for The Heart Of The Matter.

I think it's no surprise that...

I cast my vote for Heart of the Matter.

Don't be distracted by the excellence of the song, guys! The video blows!

For My Wedding

I'm surprised by the votes for "For My Wedding." I love how they show so many couples, from the young to the very old, being happy and in love. It doesn't hurt that Don looks so good in the video (see Maleah's avatar).

I've seen plenty of Wedding Videos, so it was kinda boring, IMHO.

I cast my vote for The Heart Of The Matter.

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

It doesn't hurt that Don looks so good in the video (see Maleah's avatar).

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Now Soda, I'm trying not to be distracted by the excellence of Don's looks in all the videos. :)

For My Wedding is beautiful just doesn't keep my interest to see it again and again and again as much as EIDN or THOTM.

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Originally Posted by Fan_For_Life

Now Soda, I'm trying not to be distracted by the excellence of Don's looks in all the videos. :)

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Good luck with that, FFL! :wink:

I think the For My Wedding video, obviously, has a sweet sentiment, but I can also see where it is a bit repetitious and mundane. This could be an interesting round. I'll wait until later to vote as I usually do.

I vote for The Heart Of The Matter.

As much as I hate to do this because it is my favorite Don solo song, my vote is for The Heart of the Matter. IMO, the video just completely takes away from Don's beautiful voice and those brilliant lyrics.

I have been out of town and was unable to cast my second vote, but it would have been for Johnny Can't Read, anyway!
I vote for For My Wedding this round. Lovely song, so-so video.

I didn't make it to the last round, but am not sad to see JCR go.

After watching both HOTM and FMY, I have to go with HOTM. I really don't get it. After singing and writing it so beautifully, Don really messed this one up. I'd love to see HOTM remade. But I don't think that ever happens!

and I won't be sad to see FMW go after it leaves.

Well, I guess it's no secret that I want The Heart of the Matter to be eliminated this round. And it look like it will be even without my vote. Therefore, I will cast a strategic vote in the event of a future tiebreaker ...

I cast my vote for The Last Worthless Evening.

The next video to be voted off the island in the "Don Henley Music Videos” Survivor is The Heart of the Matter. “The Heart of the Matter,” you got the call today, you knew that it would come. You must please leave the island immediately. The remaining videos may return to camp.

Votes
The Heart of the Matter – 6
For My Wedding – 3
The Last Worthless Evening – 1

Vote Breakdown
The Heart of the Matter – troubadour
The Heart of the Matter – sodascouts
The Heart of the Matter – Koala
The Heart of the Matter – Freypower
The Heart of the Matter – Peekaboo
The Heart of the Matter – Brooke
For My Wedding – EagleLady
For My Wedding – Fan_For_Life
For My Wedding – DonFan
The Last Worthless Evening – Ive always been a dreamer

Videos eliminated:
Everything Is Different Now 6/25
Johnny Can't Read 6/27
The Heart of the Matter 6/29

Videos remaining:
The Boys of Summer
All She Wants To Do Is Dance
Not Enough Love In the World
The End of the Innocence
The Last Worthless Evening
Taking You Home
For My Wedding


Voting for Round 4 will begin after the following immunity question is answered:

Which video in this game does Don’s family appear in?

Taking you Home, All She Wants to do is Dance immune

That is correct, EL.

All She Wants To Do Is Dance is immune.

Voting for Round Four begins now.

My vote continues to be for For My Wedding

I vote for Not Enough Love In The World.

For My Wedding

I vote for For My Wedding again, too.

Very sorry to see HOTM go.

I cast my vote once again for For My Wedding.

ok, now I'm ready to do this...

I cast my vote for For My Wedding.

I vote for For My Wedding!

Well - unless there is a last minute rally, it looks as if For My Wedding is doomed this round, which is fine by me. Therefore, I think I will stick with my strategy from the last round.

I cast my vote for The Last Worthless Evening.

I vote for For My Wedding, too.

Honestly, I like it. It's just probably the least exciting of the rest of them. I'll be sad to see it go though - mainly because Don looks so flippin' gorgeous!

The next video to be voted off the island in the "Don Henley Music Videos” Survivor is For My Wedding. “For My Wedding”, I hope you’ve got what it takes to make it in the world out there because you must leave the island immediately. The remaining videos may return to camp.

Votes
For My Wedding – 7
Not Enough Love In the World – 1
The Last Worthless Evening – 1

Vote Breakdown
For My Wedding – EagleLady
For My Wedding – Fan_For_Life
For My Wedding – DonFan
For My Wedding – TimothyBFan
For My Wedding – Koala
For My Wedding – sodascouts
For My Wedding – Troubadour
Not Enough Love In the World – Freypower
The Last Worthless Evening – Ive always been a dreamer

Videos eliminated:
Everything Is Different Now 6/25
Johnny Can't Read 6/27
The Heart of the Matter 6/29
For My Wedding 7/01

Videos remaining:
The Boys of Summer
All She Wants To Do Is Dance
Not Enough Love In the World
The End of the Innocence
The Last Worthless Evening
Taking You Home


Voting for Round 5 will begin after the following immunity question is answered:

Which video(s) in this game is/are partially subtitled in Spanish?

All She Wants To Do Is Dance my choice for immunity is All She Wants To Do Is Dance

FFL - That is the correct answer. However, I am really sorry but I am not going to be able to let you select a video to be immune. The rules on the first page of this thread specifically state ...

"You must include both your answer and the video you wish to be immune in your post in order for it to count."

Therefore, I will continue to accept answers for the immunity question until the 2 hour deadline is up.

But Dreamer, FFL has selected All She Wants To Do Is Dance to be immune. That is how I read it.

Okay - here is the problem. I believe FFL must have gone back and edited her post while I was typing my answer. That is technically a "no no" as well. You are not supposed to make any changes to your answers in this game. However, since the change was made immediately, I'll go ahead and accept it this time. But, remember folks, NO changes are permitted to your answers in the future.

All She Wants To Do Is Dance is immune.

Voting for Round 5 begins now.

I'll vote for Not Enough Love In The World