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Didn't I read somewhere that Don's wife Sharon got very jealous over the fact that he sends Stevie roses on her birthday every year? Since Sharon obviously has a problem with Don's closeness to Stevie, maybe that is why Stevie never talks in interviews about the intensity or passion during her time with Don--out of respect for Don & Sharon's marriage.Quote:
Originally Posted by SodaScouts
I read that too, in the National Enquirer (I just looked at it while waiting in line in the supermarket, honest!) That publication isn't known for its 100% dedication to accuracy, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by DonFan
I can see that. She used to talk all the time about Lindsey Buckingham as her "great love" but now that he is married with children, all of the sudden he's just a "musical soulmate." Maybe she does try to respect the wife's feelings. Of course Joe is/was married too...Quote:
Since Sharon obviously has a problem with Don's closeness to Stevie, maybe that is why Stevie never talks in interviews about the intensity or passion during her time with Don--out of respect for Don & Sharon's marriage.
yeah...that's what I was THINKING and had trouble, apparently, actually saying :lol: I would think that would be something that would bother a lot of guys.......if someone they were with at one time was also with their friend and/or bandmate....and then the friend/bandmate was the one she recalled as her one true love.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFan
Here's a funny bit. Another site picked up on Stevie's interview, declaring it to be a dramatic reveal of a secret affair. Yeah, it was so secret she's discussed it on national television before (VH1's Storytellers 1998 ) and in multiple interviews. Gotta love this kind of piggy-back journalism, where they've done no research themselves and wind up printing mistakes as facts.
Stevie Nick's Secret Eagles Romance
That's quite funny really, Soda. You have already posted quotes by Stevie about Joe earlier in this thread, so it's no great secret to people who know where to look.
It's interesting to read Stevie's summary of her relationship with Lindsey - more about the music. I think I agree with you that perhaps she is sensitive to both Lindsey and Don, and their subsequent marriages, and for sure she felt that Joe was now in a happy relationship (which sadly may now be in doubt). She comes across as a very sweet and sensitive person.
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Originally Posted by JoeFan
Just my opinion, JF, but I think the most memorable lover and the great love of one's life don't have to be the same person.
I just wanted to confirm that I first saw Joe with the Party Boys on December 7 1984, and with the Creatures From America in 1986 (I don't have the exact date at the moment - I can find out later) so it does appear that what Stevie says about 1986 is correct. I think it was towards the end of the year, round about November.
My post wasn't even about that, you entirely missed the point, I was trying to explain why Henley wouldn't enjoy coming after Joe to Stevie Nicks, not argue that greatest lovers are also always loves of a lifetime. I don't even believe that. In fact as far as I can see, I never said that, guess you feel I implied it, well I didn't mean to. I'm not some daft tart who can't distinguish between a good shag and meaningful love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Little Sister
LOL, JF! Thanks for setting me straight.
I'm glad I could clarify my meaning for you.
Stevie Nicks was quite a babe back then. If I was Joe I would have been showing her "great love" every day, haha.
If they had a child together, that would be one weird, cool and beautifal kid!She always looked good to me, and Joe is a lucky dude!
You might enjoy this, Kyle! (Done by a bored Stevie fan)
What a kid of theirs might grow up to look like:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...2/morph014.jpg
That's a mite disturbing actually.
http://www.wowowow.com/entertainment...oks-now-254692 I hope this works, I want to get Stevie's new DVD. I heard her talk about no cell phone, etc on a show not to long ago
I was at the taping of that DVD in Chicago. You must get it! Thanks for posting that article. Love this part:
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When asked about her online life, she skips barely a beat: "I don’t have a computer or a cell phone. I am old-school all the way. I am school of rock."
"In 1983 when I was going out with the love of my life, Joe Walsh (legendary rock god of James Gang and Eagles fame), he had built a room in a loft filled with pianos." According to Nicks, the first time she heard a tune she had just picked out on an electronic keyboard instantly played back by Walsh with full orchestration, she realized, "Everyone, even the violinists had been replaced."
Later that year, Walsh told Nicks he couldn’t be with her on her favorite holiday, Halloween, because he had to work on his computer.
"That means I have also been replaced. If computers are going to replace me in a man’s life and replace those violinists …"
That was the end of Nicks’s relationship with computers.
Great article - amazing story!
Stevie mentions her relationship with Joe again in an upcoming issue of People magazine. It expands more on a problem with Joe's she mentioned in the past:
Nothing more important?? Wow! She hasn't put it that way before!Quote:
Former rock couple STEVIE NICKS and JOE WALSH were so hooked on drugs during their romance, they feared they'd die if they didn't split.
The Fleetwood MAC singer dated Eagles star Walsh during the 1980s and describes him as "the great, great love of my life".
But they both began taking cocaine in vast quantities and Nicks blames the drug for ruining their relationship.
She tells People magazine, "There was nothing more important than Joe Walsh - not my music, not my songs, not anything.
"We had to break up or we thought we'd die. It took me years to get over it. It's very sad but at least we survived."
I have great respect for Stevie, Nancy. But I have to keep reminding myself that she does have a tendency to use strong adjectives in describing emotions. I've no doubt she felt that way about Joe...Joe has made similarly complimentary remarks about Stevie (maybe "complimentary" is too weak a term). But, Stevie has felt strongly about at least two others that I'm aware of, namely Lindsey Buckingham and Don Henley. I do not think the remarks coming from Stevie are contradictory.
It is the strongest of terms of endearment that I've heard her referring to Joe with though and that's a fact!
I just saw that on my google alert. Here's the link, some good pictures of Stevie..
STEVIE NICKS - NICKS' 'DEADLY' ROMANCE WITH WALSH ~ Contactmusic.com
As far as "Most important" you know Stevie has a way of embellishing reality for dramatic effect, but she has said on more then on occasion he was the great love in her life.
What I find interesting here is
1. They're both clean and drug free now, if they were such great loves, why didnt they rediscover each other?
2. If the drugs are what split them apart and now they are both drug free but not "together" was it the drugs that made them a "couple"? so to speak. Im sure you can infer my meaning here.
3. Do we know who Stevie is involved with currently?
Well, I agree with you guys that Stevie tends to go for the dramatic descriptions and might overstate a bit. She has indeed said that both Joe Walsh and Lindsey Buckingham were her "Greatest loves" so yeah, she's not always consistent in that regard. Still, it's a great compliment to Joe!
I don't think anyone but Joe and Stevie can answer your questions, ticky. Just speculating - maybe the intensity of the relationship made it harder to reconnect later, ironically. I'm sure it's hard to open oneself up to that kind of heartbreak again. Also, Joe has been in serious relationships for the vast majority of the time that he's been sober. He was "taken."
I think it's safe to say Stevie would deny #2, though - that their relationship was based solely on drug-fueled passion. She has always called the relationship one of people who were attracted to each other because they understood each other; in fact, she claimed she was the ONLY one who truly "got" Joe.
Honestly, I kind of get the feeling Joe wasn't as into Stevie as she was into him. Certainly he doesn't talk about her with that kind of passion. Indeed, while lately he has said complimentary things, in the early 90s he openly mocked her and even called her a "road f--k" on Howard Stern. :( Of course, maybe that was the alcohol talking, and his almost compulsive desire to get a laugh, no matter what, like we recently saw with his comment about Leadon. I reiterate that in recent years, he has spoken of her kindly and even said that The Confessor would not have gotten made without her support.
The last name that has been publicly associated romantically with Stevie was Rupert Hine... and that 20 years ago. She says she is single now as "no man can handle my lifestyle." Of course, in a recent interview, she said it was never really over with Lindsey until 1998 when he had his first kid with his now-wife (they were not married at the time). Makes you go "hmmmm...."
The story is all over the newswires and I didn't see that particular link with photos ticky. Thanks!
I also wanted to add - and this is completely my own speculation as a Stevie fan who has followed her interviews closely - that Stevie saw herself as Joe's "savior" who could "make him better" as she likes to say. By styling herself as the only one who understood him and saw the "real" Joe, the pain behind the laughs, she also puts herself in the position of the only one who can truly love "the real Joe."
As a result, I can see why she would characterize the situation as one where she would give up everything for him - to help him out, to save him from himself - especially if she had told herself she was the only one who could get through to him. Psychologically, a lot of women are drawn to guys they want to "fix." It makes them feel special to think that they can save a guy when no one else can; it makes them feel needed and important. It also puts the woman in a position of power in a way that a strong lady like Stevie would find appealing, but that may have made Joe uncomfortable. While they were both so hardcore into drugs, though, there was no way she could save anybody. She was kidding herself, but to this day, I'm not sure she really recognizes that.
And I think, at the time, Joe didn't really want Stevie to "save" him, and that's really why he left her in such an ignominious and careless fashion. "When you walk out that door, you cease to exist," he told her, getting a big laugh from the buddies he was hanging out with.... but ending it with her forever.
They don't call it "dope" for nothing do they!
Wow, that's harsh!! What a shame. Is there an article somewhere that claims this is really how it happened? Would love to read more about them back then. I know we've rehashed this a couple of times but I find myself intrigued every time this subject comes forward again.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
Well, Joe's never confirmed it, but here's what Stevie said (C&Ped from another post):
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BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991
"What happened at the end was I was getting ready to cut two songs with Waddy Wachtel producing and we only had two nights to rehearse and Joe had been off in New Zealand or something and he came down about one or two in the morning or something and he was real good friends with everyone in my band. That would have been fine any other night but I was really angry with what Joe had done because he completely screwed up that session. He just had everyone dying laughing because he just tells a hundred jokes and everyone was just rolling in the floor laughing and I was going “this is not fair” because he is not being sensitive at all to this whole situation and “you know I would give up anything for you, even my dammed career for you if he was serious enough."
I had a limousine and I asked Joe if he wanted to take me home or me to come home with him and he said, “Well, I didn’t tell you this but I’m leaving for Australia like tonight and I have to pack, so I’m just going to get a ride home with Waddy.”
And I said “Ok” and started walking towards the door, and I turned around and said, “Joe I don’t like where this relationship is going 'cause it’s not going anywhere and I don’t want to do it anymore.” And I started walking towards the door and he said, “Well, you know, if you walk out the door, you basically cease to exist.” And I just didn't stop walking."
At that time Joe said he was "living the rock and roll lifestyle" and I imagine the careless attitude was partly fueled by the drugs and partly due to the fact I doubt he truly was as committed to her as she claims was to him. It wasn't till the death of his close friend, John Belushi, that he recognized the fact he HAD a problem (according to the Howard Stern interview in '05). I think he's pretty sorry and regrets a lot of that aloofness and cruelty now looking back on it based on a lot of his reactions to mentions of his past indiscretions. I think it's really embarrassing to him and a lot of the kindness and grace he shows to his fans and public now is an attempt to redeem himself, that and just the fact that he is such a nice guy and truly loves and appreciates his fans.
As far as that part of his life pertains to Stevie and their past relationship, I have no idea not being party to that part of his or her life *G* But Im sure he tried to make amends.
Love this stuff!! What a soap opera!!
Another question, I don't know if maybe it has already been answered somewhere before. She is still on very good terms with Don and her and Lindsey, even tho they have their moments, seem to be good together and able to work together. Have her and Joe ever made amends? Do they ever see each other or are they friends again? And I kinda wonder why, if he was the love of her life, after his divorces, she didn't try to reconnect with him, or maybe she did and it just didn't work because the relationship was so toxic because of the drugs and alcohol?
As far as I know they remain friends, in fact Joe even said so in the Mark Lane interview. That's when he said she was a "good witch, laugh laugh.."
Joe and Stevie seem to be on friendly terms, but it's true that she isn't as close to him as she is to Don and Lindsey.
Of course, her relationship with Lindsey to this day is tempestuous, but they work together and so naturally would be closer.
Don and Stevie, on the other hand, may not see each other as much but often call each other and try hard to keep in touch. When she speaks of her relationship with Don, it's in the present tense. "He's one of my best friends, and he's there for me." When she speaks of her relationship with Joe, it's in the past.
I don't know why reconnection didn't seem to take place on the level it has with Don. I guess only Stevie and Joe know the answer to that! I would speculate there's a level of awkwardness with Joe that isn't there with Don, considering the way it ended.
Look what a friend of mine just posted on Facebook! What a coincidence! This is especially cool because photos of Joe with Stevie are very rare. I only know of one other.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../JoeStevie.jpg
Soda the picture you posted is the one in the current People Mag. I had never seen it before
Its in the current People? Is there an article that goes with it?
Not really an article just a couple of pages of pictures with comments. It is this weeks issue, the guy from the Craig's list is on the cover
Reviving this old thread because I just found out a new tidbit!
As some of you know, Dave Stewart (formerly of the Eurythmics) produced Stevie's new album and co-wrote some songs with her. Well, he told a story to Howard Stern that I didn't know!
Turns out the song he co-wrote with Tom Petty, "Don't Come Around Here No More," was inspired by Stevie!
Now, here's the story:
Stevie and Joe were in the midst of a fight and had temporarily broken up. The Eurythmics happened to be playing in town that night and Stevie invited Dave to a party, where they had a one-night stand. The next morning, apparently regretting her actions, she shut him down when he talked about getting together again and said "Don't come around here no more." She then got back with Joe. lol
There's an alternate version of the story where she said those words to Joe when Joe came looking for her and she was with Dave... not sure which is true, but it's interesting nonetheless!
Yup, interesting! I bet Joe and Dave both tell the story and it was the other one that got told "don't come around here no more"! :lol:
Interesting! :hilarious:
Another one for Stevie. :shock: :hilarious:
Yeah really!!! How can she work with all of these guys and it not seem weird? That's showbiz I guess!
I've sometimes wondered if she ever comes up in conversation between Joe and Don.
I would guess that it has....maybe not though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts