I'm with you. A release date would be great (and not too far in the future would be even better. :laugh: )
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I'm with you. A release date would be great (and not too far in the future would be even better. :laugh: )
Agreed. Really Don, can't you think of something else besides Eagles songs? :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glennhoney
I hope someone reads this thread and tells Don.
http://ashleymannonmusicrow.blogspot...-with-don.html
Don's recording with Dolly according to Ashley's site. Plus a bit more info on the album contents.
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Ronnie Dunn told me that he recorded "Seven Bridges Road" with Don and Alison Krauss…LIVE and acapella. Ronnie also told me that Don has recorded some Country Covers, as well as some Eagles’ tunes…PLUS there will be some BRAND NEW songs on the album, too.
Well, I guess that settles it then. Unless, of course, Ronnie is confused (but why would he be?), or the final track listing hasn't been decided yet.Quote:
Ronnie Dunn told me that he recorded "Seven Bridges Road" with Don and Alison Krauss…LIVE and acapella. Ronnie also told me that Don has recorded some Country Covers, as well as some Eagles’ tunes…PLUS there will be some BRAND NEW songs on the album, too.
Well, I think this is being done to attract people who might not otherwise buy the CD. Even if Don gets told that the hardcores are unhappy, the hardcores do not make up the vast majority of the buying public. Indeed, most hardcores will buy anything Don puts out anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooke
On the other hand, the inclusion of Eagles songs might attract the casual buyer. Look how well Common Thread sold (admittedly, that was almost 20 years ago). I think this is a business decision, plain and simple - especially since Ronnie Dunn was specifically told to mimic the Eagles arrangement exactly. That suggests to me that Don isn't re-recording these out of burning desire to give Eagles songs a new artistic reinterpretation. JMHO.
Look on the bright side. At least we're getting a few new songs. Some folks, like Rod Stewart and his five American Songbook compilations, don't even give their fans that.
Plus, it's cool to hear that icons like Dolly Stewart will be appearing. How about "Islands in the Stream"? ;) Speaking of IITS, I imagine Kenny Rogers will be appearing as well, since he discovered Don. At least, I hope he will. I think he's great.
Well - I'm not sure what to expect with this. My gut reaction was and still remains that I would be disappointed with an album that primarily consists of covers of country and Eagles songs. I'd just much rather have new material from a songwriter as incredible as Don. However, I guess at this point, all we can do is speculate until we get more info.
Dolly Stewart? :hilarious:Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
:laugh: I read that post without noticing the slip. Wonder if Dolly's related to Rod Parton. ;) :laugh:
I'd bet they are! :grin:
I'll admit that I wasn't expecting Don to re-record Eagles songs for his country album, but I'm not disheartened - I'm just excited that we'll be getting some new solo stuff from the man! I'm more than prepared to enjoy the anticipation and hold my opinions until I hear the tracks. It sounds like an exciting project.
When I first read the interview with Ronnie Dunn it was April 1st & I really thought that it was an April Fool's joke. I had to check on the date that it was posted (March 31) before I thought that there was any merit to it. I agree. I think Don could come up with songs other than Eagles' songs. It doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not looking forward to SBR bing redone, even though I like the artists that are singing it. :confused:
What, you mean you guys haven't heard that Dolly Parton ran off with Rod Stewart to Las Vegas for a quickie wedding after some hasty divorcing? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by whitcap
"Have I told you, Dolly, that I love you... have I told you there's no one else above you... fill my heart with gladness... take away all my sadness... show some cleavage, that's what you do."
LOL!!
A FEW. The objection here is to the apparent decision to re-record Eagles songs.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
And of course the elephant in the room is... most of the Eagles' 'country sounding' songs were sung by Glenn. I know Don has sung Tequila Sunrise, Already Gone & Lyin' Eyes live. What if he records those and then decides perhaps he should sing them live with the Eagles?
I don't think that is very likely but I see precisely no reason to rework his old songs. No reason at all.
Well, there could be more than one objection, ya know! ;) At any rate, like I said, I was trying to look on the bright side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
It's beyond unlikely. This scenario is absolutely preposterous.Quote:
I know Don has sung Tequila Sunrise, Already Gone & Lyin' Eyes live. What if he records those and then decides perhaps he should sing them live with the Eagles?
I don't think that is very likely
No artistic reason, perhaps, but it might get him some more green.Quote:
but I see precisely no reason to rework his old songs. No reason at all.
Maybe Ronnie thought it would be funny to get everyone to freak out. LOL Seriously though, I'm just excited for a new album regardless of what songs are on it. Maybe I'll complain once I see an official album list but until I'll be excited. :D
I'm with you there. A new CD of Don to :yay: :smitten: over. :fainted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maleah
TOTALLY AGREE....WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?????????????:headscratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by ive always been a dreamer
No, Don's not alone by any means. I mentioned earlier the success of Rod Stewart's cover albums, and that has not gone unnoticed. This is a trend that has been growing for years, especially as classic rock artists continue to tour successfully and find themselves with a fanbase that laps up their older material but perhaps is not as keen on listening to new material that they don't recognize.
I can see how an album consisting mostly of covers and re-releases would be very appealing. Quick, easy, profitable...
1) You don't have to take the time to write a lot of new songs that may or may not go over well; no stressful agonizing over every lyric and note; no sweating over whether your new songs live up to the old material.
2) People who may not buy an album of all-original material will be more likely to pick up an album with a lot of old favorites, getting you more money and also getting any new songs you include some additional listeners.
3) You can record them much more quickly, especially if you make minimal changes in arrangements. You already know what they're going to sound like. There's a reason why Don Henley, famous for his painstaking perfectionism, nonchalantly breezes through recording Ronnie Dunn's part on SBR in a couple hours. Just tell him to sing it like the Eagles do... what could be easier?
4) For those with contractual obligations to fulfill, these types of albums are a great way to take care of business with the record company. You want three more albums? Here's a greatest hits and a couple albums of covers. Ouila!
5) Including re-recordings of your old stuff mixed in with covers of other artists not only appeals to fans who like your older music, but also gives you a bigger profit margin as you have fewer royalties to pay.
While this type of album is not what I had hoped, I do understand the decision, and I still maintain that a few new songs is better than no new songs. Ideally, he'd do like Tim and Joe and put out all new material, but you can't always have the ideal. If it's this or nothing, I'll take this.
Think of it this way. At Pebble Beach in 2008, Glenn said he might do an album of big band covers. He also said he didn't think he'd ever release an album of entirely original material again. Now it looks like Glenn won't even do the album of covers. At least Don is giving fans something new to enjoy. When I view it in that light, I say, "I'll take what I can get."
I just hope the amount of "de-Eagled" versions of Eagles songs is minimal...
Soda, I understand all of the arguments and logic for doing this, but I still don't like it. The difference for me is that if Don was putting out an album of all new songs, I would be one of the first in line to buy it just because it is Don. However, I don't know if I'll buy this album or not. I'll just have to wait and see what's on it. But this fan may not be spending my money to hear Don remake a bunch of old songs. So for me, if it's this or nothing, I'll just have to wait and see. :unimpressed:Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
This, unfortunately, appears to be correct. I could write a very long diatribe on what I think of this situation; the 'I'll take what I can get' approach is not ideal but it is apparently more than Glenn will ever offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
But I'm afraid that I am with Dreamer on this. At the moment I can't even see myself buying a hard copy of the CD. I would buy the tracks on iTunes which are not remakes of Eagles songs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ive always been a dreamer
Also if he were to do an entire album of covers I wouldn't have a problem with that. It is the remakes of Eagles songs that bothers me.
Kate Bush is also releasing an album of re-recordings of songs from The Red Shoes & This Woman's Work. I find this entire trend bizarre & to put it as mildly as possible, sad.
..my thoughts exactly...and one of the reasons that the EAGLES are SO special, is that they put out a double CD of NEW material...when everybody else is busy rearranging and re- recording their old stuff ..my husband and I were discussing who we'd like to go see in concert this year, and he was saying that as far as "older" groups are concerned, only the EAGLES are worth the price of the their tickets..there's a lot of truth in that..
I agree, GH. I admire the Eagles greatly for putting out a new album when so many would have been content to rest on their laurels.
I can see this. A well-done cover, like Don's magnificent "Come Rain or Come Shine," can be a real gem. I look forward to hearing more covers of that caliber on his country and R&B albums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
But the re-recording of Eagles songs... I have to admit I'm not looking forward to that. Perhaps it will only be a couple, though, and a very small part of the album.
I with you two on this. And I don't want to hear remakes of Eagles songs at all. I have the country remakes album of Eagles songs in my collection and have never listened to it. It came with several others is the only reason I have it. I've heard some of them on the radio and they are ok, but I avoid them if possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
..we used to play CDs at work before we got Sirius Radio and one of those CDs was "Common Thread" which I absolutely hated..but anyway, one of my coworkers (who's totally into country music), would always say she preferred the "country" versions than the Eagles....I nearly choked her a few times...:censored:..lol...SSOoooo glad we don't have to listen to it anymore..
I bought Common Threads because I loved all the artists on the CD. Travis Tritt came out with Take It Easy and Clint Black came out with Desperado. It was only after listening to this CD that I got interested in the Eagles again. I had forgotten that they were still around,since I only listened to Country Music and they did not play Eagles Music. Of course it changed in the fact that after this CD I did rediscover the Eagles, which is what lead me to the Border. I still only listen to Country Music except when I go in and listen to Eagles Radio.
I'll second that one, AZ. When Common Thread came out, it was real popular here in Music City for obvious reasons. Had been in the country magazines and interviews on local tv for months and when the Eagles came in town to provide the backup harmony for Tritt, that was the icing on the cake.
So I personally have no problems with Henley doing Eagles songs in his albums. He's an Eagle, they all have covered the songs in their solo albums with varying degrees of success, I'm anxious to hear it. And it will be done well since he's a perfectionist.
Merely MY opinion.......
I like Common Thread well enough (although I don't prefer any of the cover versions to the originals). I especially like Travis Tritt's "Take It Easy" and I'll always value the fact that it precipitated Hell Freezes Over and the reunion of the band. I also enjoy country music, so I have no issues there.
However, if Henley chooses to tread that ground again by "countrifying" Eagles songs - an idea which has already been executed on the Common Thread CD - the results could very possibly have a "been there, done that" feel unless he chooses different songs to re-record.
While all of the Eagles quite naturally perform Eagles songs in their solo sets and that is reflected in their live album releases, as far as I know only Randy has officially recorded a solo version of an Eagles song/songs on a studio album. (If I'm forgetting something please feel free to remind me!)
And despite my own lack of excitement about Henley's re-recording of Eagles songs, I think many will share Pueblo's opinion and that's definitely a good thing if you look at it from Henley's perspective! lol
As I said earlier, I'll be buying the album regardless.
I'm sure that I will be right there to buy it too. I have the solo CDs that Don and Timothy have released lately. Since the last Don CD was a greatest hits one, (I hope I have that right), I really wanted new material. A CD of country covers would be OK. I would love to know what songs he is going to do.
It may be done well but he will be singing Eagles songs without the presence of the other Eagles; I just can't get my head around why he thinks this is necessary when there are so many other songs. It would be better him to redo his SOLO songs. Not his Eagles songs. Or Eagles songs sung by other Eagles.Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblo47
Without being disagreeable to anyone in here, guess what I'm trying to understand is why all the controversy? No one has even heard anything from the album yet, just what has been printed. And it's not like it hasn't been done before by the other guys. The more I read about it, the more I want to hear it before making any comments pro or con.
And for the ones who say they don't like country music, what are the Eagles but country rock, despite them trying to shed that reputation? They started out that way and even though the rock has changed the sound somewhat over the years, it hasn't changed their reputation for easy listening, ballad-like songs that tell stories or make statements.
Again this is MY opinion and I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone in here. Just saying what I personally think.
Yeah RIGHT!!! :hilarious: No, seriously, I totally agree with you!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblo47
Have you noticed how quiet I've been in this thread? :hilarious:Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblo47
Me too! :hilarious:
Just because I like the Eagles I don't necessarily like all of the solo stuff anyway. Never say never, but I doubt if I'll be buying this album.
I guess my previous posts on this topic weren't as clear as I would have hoped! I must be losing my touch. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblo47
I'll try to break it down more.
1) Eagles songs are best done by the Eagles, IMHO. Re-recording them as solo material with different people singing harmonies instead of your bandmates seems to me creatively stale and even lazy.
2) When I hear about a new Don album coming out, I get excited thinking we're going to get material we haven't heard before - not the same material that we've already heard the Eagles do.
3) Other artists may re-record their old stuff, too, but that does not matter to me. I don't judge whether or not I agree with something based on how many other people do it. I would criticize any of my favorites who did this, because those are the artists I care about.
All of this is only MY personal opinion, of course.
However, it's not like he's doing a whole album of Eagles covers. Maybe he's only doing one or two. I don't want to get fixated on this element and thus ruin the joy of a new album coming out. I do think it's fair to discuss it, though.
I totally agree with this also!! (See how agreeable I am today!:hilarious:) If I buy a Henley solo album, or Frey or Schmit, or Walsh, I want SOLO stuff not redone Eagles stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
PM-- I have to agree, I probably will not be buying this cd. Now the one we've heard possibly coming out of Soul (or did I dream that?) I will definitely buy. But I guess I should know better than to say never.
No I haven't:hilarious:Quote:
Originally Posted by TimothyBFan
PM - I'll buy it and then talk about it and make you run out and get it too:hilarious:
Soda - I understood you. Just adding my opinion to the thread. :angel:
You probably will!Quote:
Originally Posted by pueblo47
But I don't know, reading posts on this board has never influenced me to do anything before. :lie:
I see re-recording Eagles' songs as Don "resting on his laurels". I agree though, that doing the album this way is an easier or quicker way of fulfiling his contractual obligations as he has to record another album to complete this obligation.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
I enjoy Common Thread but I certainly don't prefer any of the songs to the originals. It was a tribute to the Eagles. To me re-recording Eagles' songs is, to paraphrase Glenn, "just doing a tribute to himself". JMHO
I most likely will buy the CD.
I love a lot of country music and I love nearly every Eagles song that ever came out. Country influenced or rock.
I don't mind if country artists do Eagles songs. But I don't love an Eagle re-recording Eagles songs with country artists. It's never gonna be as good as the original. There's too much history and the legacy there. And what is the point? I agree with Soda that it's a cop out and lazy. Surely he can come up with other songs to record. Why would we want to hear that? Now, I love Don and I know he can sing the phone book and make it sound good. He has said before that they get tired of singing the same old songs so why when he has a chance to do something different doesn't he do something different?
This is just my opinion. Everyone has one. It's ok to disagree as long as no blood is spilled. :lol:
And unless there is new material on it, I probably won't buy it either. I might download just the new songs. :shrug:
Well, I'd not have a problem if they changed it up a mite. Look what the Eagles did with "Hotel California". Made it acoustic!
And I know Walsh has recorded versions of several songs in the past. Hmmm, some of them were somewhat the "same" but I think what I'm thinking about is a "Studio" version versus a "Live" version.
But then, I doubt that I'd buy a Henley solo album anyway. With the exception of Walsh, I doubt that I'd buy any solo works of other Eagles. I think of them as a "group" and as a "group" I accept them. But Walsh is the only individual among them who I'd support with a purchase. I would do that primarly becasue I grew up with him in James Gang an Solo before I was ever a big Eagles fan.
But I don't see anything wrong with coming out with remakes of good material. Hopefully, if Don does do this, he will do something different enough to make the song(s) unique to his solo release.
But how "different" can you make something like "Desperado" or "Last Resort"?
That's a CHALLENGE DON. Show me how stupid I am!