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That will be an interesting lawsuit if Neil feels the need to file one. If he does sue and win, that could mean that anyone could get in trouble for playing a song to a crowd/audience. While it's unlikely that if would affect a non celeb or politician, it is a slippery slope.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
I can totally understand why Neil doesn't want Rockin' In The Free World to be associated with Donald Trump's presidential campaign. I suspect that when it came to choosing the song Trump simply thought of the chorus and how great it was to be rocking in the free world, rather than the biting social criticisms in the verses which strongly opposed the policies of Bush Senior (most notably 'We got a kinder, gentler machine gun hand', which directly attacked his 'kinder, gentler nation' speech).
My sympathies in this kind of situation tend to vary depending on the artist and the song used. I can totally understand when artists who have written political songs like Neil object when someone whose views they disagree with then use their song, the same for Jackson Browne (I think he sued a Republican candidate who used one of his songs). By contrast, I thought the fuss that the British band Keane made when the UK Conservative Party used one of their songs (Everybody's Changing) in the run up to (I think) the 2010 election was over the top. Although I can understand why they didn't want to be associated with a party they did not support, the manner in which they complained about it was somewhat off putting, especially as the song's lyrics were not really political in nature and the band members went to an expensive public school.
On a lighter note, does anyone know whether Joe Walsh minded Life's Been Good been used in one of the 1980 presidential campaigns? ;)
When I first heard that Trump had used this song, my first thought was " does he even realize the meaning of the lyrics?". It's just like Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA. People hear the chorus and they believe that it's a song praising America, when it's the complete opposite!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Come Lately
He didn't use it in an ad, but what he did was much worse, in using it to announce his candidacy for President. This is a widely heard announcement, & he had no right to use it. I do think Neil will go after him for this..."Fair Use" What does that even mean??? That song was blasting in the background & it does imply that the artist is supporting this candidate, so I do think Neil can win this in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
Should be interesting.
Fair use (copied and pasted from this website:Quote:
Originally Posted by Topkat
the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
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I don't know if this kind of "fair use" argument has been used before or not. Does Trump's use of the song fall under those categories mentioned above? That's the million dollar question.
Ag95, thank you for the link. However, I think what tk was suggesting is that it is very subjective. Experts seem to think that if Neil does sue, it will go into new territory.
I figured that this would be the best place to post this (unless one of the mods wants to create another thread for it).
Donald Trump has responded to Neil Young's diss over his use of the song Rockin in the Free World:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/24/politi...ng-on-twitter/
"Trump published a series of tweets calling the artist a "total hypocrite" because according to Trump, Young visited Trump's office requesting money for an audio deal and invited Trump to his show just last week".
It clearly states that Neil Young supports Bernie Sanders as a candidate for President & "Rockin' the Free World" is a protest song against 80's Republicans.
Trump is a user & tries to get everything for free. If Young asked for money for using his song, Well I feel he has every right to be paid for it. The song was clearly used to benefit Trump & clearly implies support.
I don't give a crap if Trump shook his hand, This is all part of his pretentious act. Jackson Browne sued John McCain for using his song "Running on Empty" & they settled. Bottom line, like Jackson said in the video, "You can't just use someone's song & not pay them for it."
As far as I'm concerned, the guy is a joke. He has billions, but all his hotels file for bankruptcy. I even think he's a con artist. If he is elected President, we are in serious trouble, & I mean even more trouble than we are already in.
I agree with everything you said, Topkat, particularly the part about him being elected president :yuck:.(the thought of him sittingin the white house makes me both wanna cry and hit something )
Im :rofl: at the part where Trump said that he didn't care for the song anyway. If you don't like the song, why use it then? :eyebrow:
Trisha Yearwood is going to have an exhibit in the Country Music Hall of Fame, and in this article, she refers to Don as one of her idols.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/c...l-fame-exhibit
I met Trisha at her cookbook signing last Saturday and she was the nicest, sweetest lady. And funny! I was planning to ask her about singing with Don but never got around to it. We talked everything from hot flashes and what alleviates it, to mosquitos, Georgia’s giant gnats, to Garth’s first trip with her to Georgia and his hiking plans. After reading this article, I'm disappointed that I forgot to ask about Don. :brickwall:
Thanks for the link VA!
Cool that Trisha considers Don to be one of her idols. I can't wait to hear her singing on the album! :)
HB, Georgia's giant gnats? :lol:. I do believe that that is an understatement! I'm sure that Trisha and I could spend all day talking about them. No summer is complete without swallowing one or having one go up your nose. (Very annoying)
Don gets a tiny mention in this article about politicians using music they shouldn't be using.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ssion-20150709
There's an article I saw on facebook this morning. Don was in Massachusetts and went back on the road. Its a nice article and I like the picture.
http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...n-pond/398579/
Don is pretty adorable, isn't he? Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read.
Don't hate on me but Don is sort of sporting Donald Trump hair in that photo. Runs & hides for cover!
I agree with VA that that was an interesting read.
I also agree with jms about Don's hair :lol:, but the smile makes up for it.
I would prefer his hair gray, but it's not like Trumps!! Don's is going in the right direction and doesn't look like it might actually be a chipmunk or something. I actually think his hair looks fine, it would just be better if it matched his goatee.
What makes me think that his hair looks like Trump's is that sort of hump to it. The color's different than I've seen (it looks almost reddish).
It's the color, almost reddish blonde which we clearly know he was neither red or blonde & then the white beard. He looked amazing with the salt & pepper coloring but...sigh, I wish someone would just tell him to put down the Just For Men box in the trash.
Trust me come Friday night he could come out in a long blonde wig & Speedo and it would be fine by me.
Well, that did conjure up quite the image in my head!Quote:
Originally Posted by jms18222
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Originally Posted by jms18222
:rofl: :rofl:. What a mental picture that is! I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying!
This popped up in a Google alert. I've never heard of the Metallica song going up against BOS(and I consider myself a Metallica fan). BOS is currently in the lead.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/metal...t-summer-song/
Oh my, I can't wait to see how Witchy Woman votes on this!
Well I voted for "The Boys of Summer" of course. As of now, Don is crushing Metallica.
Whoa !! :nope:, can't do it !!Quote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
Roger Waters is releasing a remastered version of his 1992 album Amused To Death. Don is a guest vocalist on It's a Miracle.
http://www.guitarworld.com/jeff-beck...-1-video/25069
Came across this while surfing this morning...
http://www.whio.com/s/entertainment/music/the-eagles/
Scroll down to the bottom of the main article and open the video clip for Best Singing Drummers...I think it's the third or fourth one.
I really don't like the goatee on Don & seems Tim has also been sporting this look with the white beard. It's summer guys, take a shave! They both look so much better without them...but still love them no matter what.
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Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
Amused To Death is a great Roger Waters album. Hernley's unmistakeable harmonies are on Watching TV.
To quote the Wikipedia "The song "Watching TV" (a duet with Don Henley) explores the influence of mass media on the Chinese protests for democracy in Tiananmen Square."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LlnHPsnV4
The YouTube video contains some uncomfortable, maybe even disturbing viewing.
A article about the historic hotels of Colorado, and Don gets a mention for the Brown Palace in Denver.
http://www.9news.com/story/news/trav...tels/30722105/
Well now he's up against the Beatles and Here Comes The Sun in the UCR Greatest Summer Song Battle. This will be tough one for him, but you can all guess which one I'm voting for!
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-b...r-song-battle/
I like Here Comes the Sun, but I love BOS, and BOS is currently in the lead!Quote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
Now BOS is up against Bryan Adams' Summer of '69. I love both songs, but BOS is the better one still. Right now, Summer of '69 is in the lead.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/bryan...r-song-battle/
Apparently Don gets a mention in a book that's out.
http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/books...s/201508030132
Here's an article on Don's hometown. Don is mention in the article.
They are talking about tearing down the water tower or presevre it. Don is stepping in to fund the study.
http://www.ktbs.com/story/29803951/w...r-should-it-go
Good for Don!
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Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
WOW!!! I thought the mattress story came from the vivid imagination of Don Felder. I'm sorry but I can't even imagine having to cart a bed across the world & back!:hilarious::hilarious:
How generous of Don to step up and fund the Water Tower study for Linden.
And as far as Don's traveling hotel bed, I guess it was worth it if it helped his bad back. Lucky for his back that he wasn't the one that had to put it up and tear it down night after night! :thumbsup:
Felder can't be held responsible for everything, jms, 'though I know he is creative in more fields than music! He seems to have a vivid imagination. :hilarious:Quote:
Originally Posted by jms18222
....as for the bed, speaking as someone who has chronic neck problems, I have to take my own pillows with me whenever I go. Granted, they're easier to manage than a WHOLE bed, but I do understand where Don's coming from. You'd try anything to ease the pain and if there are people there to carry the bed for you, well why not if it helps you sleep???