Don in the Press/Blogs/etc.

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

That's true. I can't know how he feels. I was simply speculating. That's why I said "I don't think he's ever come to terms with what happened" - the words "I don't think" were meant to indicate that it was only my opinion.

Quite understandable. However, if you read autobiographies, you will find that actually it is quite common for people to include horrible episodes from their past in them, and to share how they dealt with those traumas.

That said, I do not expect Don Henley to do so. I think - though of course I have no way of knowing - he might feel the same way you do about it.

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I understand what the words "I don't think" mean. I just wondered why you would think that, given that we know nothing about his feelings. I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to be difficult, but I (obviously) have a problem with people ascribing feelings/motivations to people we don't know personally at all. Hence, my comments on the Cindy Frey lawsuit thread. I have nothing against Cindy at all. I just have no way of knowing what her motivations are, other than wanting to believe they're coming from a good place. Anyway, that's off topic.

I agree that authors, especially celebrities, often discuss traumatic experiences from their past when writing their autobiographies. It certainly helps sell their books! Given the fact that Don's never spoken or written publicly on the matter, and also given the lyrics of Dirty Laundry, my guess is the same as yours -- that he won't address it. But who knows, maybe he'll surprise us all. Sometimes writing about an incident like that can be cathartic. (Although, he can write about it and still not have it published.)

If he doesn't write about it, though, I agree with you that, in order to make the book a success, he'd have to address other things in it that he's so far remained fairly quiet about, such as his relationship with Glenn over the years.

I guess we shall see, if it ever does come to pass!

Warning, this is a bit over the top ... pun intended.

http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/hou...memoir-6367783

:p That's about all I can say, Dawn!

Wow, Dawn!!! :woah:

LOL! I don't think that will make his autobiography either!

My goodness, he was a young single man. I am sure the author was duly compensated for her services. There was zero need to name names 40+ years later except to get press notice & sell more books.

Been awhile folks...hellos again.

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Originally Posted by jms18222

My goodness, he was a young single man. I am sure the author was duly compensated for her services. There was zero need to name names 40+ years later except to get press notice & sell more books.

Been awhile folks...hellos again.

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Well, she wouldn't be the first or the last to name names, that's for sure. As for being "duly compensated" for her services I don't know how you or anyone else for that matter could know for "sure" whether she was or wasn't. Guess we will just have to read the book.

Don mention in this article. I want to see this documentary that Niall is talking about.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyl...38409845535214

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The Eagles are his favourite band — he’s befriended Don Henley through meeting the rocker’s daughter Annabel. “I’m like the family’s adopted son,” Horan jokes.

Henley did an interview for an Apple documentary on Flicker.

“He hardly ever does interviews. For him to say yes to doing an interview for me was good enough. He could have done the worst interview of all time and I wouldn’t have given a sh--! Don agreed to do that for me.” Both men have discussed writing songs together — Horan is hoping his next visit to Henley in Texas may bear musical fruit.

“Imagine that. There would be nothing better than to be sitting in a room with my guitar in my hand with Don Henley, writing a song together. I’d probably forget how to play guitar. Just to have a jam with him would be enough, but imagine being on a song with Don Henley. That’s the dream.”

Horan says seeing Henley and his email buddy Elton John still passionate about music after decades in the game is inspiring.

“They could easily just concentrate on their own fortune and legacy, but they still have time to help younger acts,” he says. “It’s incredible. What I’ve noticed over the years, and I keep this in my head all the time, is that the bigger the star the nicer they are. From Johnny Depp to Ellen DeGeneres to the Obamas to Don Henley and Elton — they are all so lovely. It’s always the smaller people who are the biggest dickheads.”

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Thanks for sharing that, Shun. What an awesome tribute to Don!

Thanks from me too, shun. Nice!

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Originally Posted by shun

Don mention in this article. I want to see this documentary that Niall is talking about.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyl...38409845535214

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The Eagles are his favourite band — he’s befriended Don Henley through meeting the rocker’s daughter Annabel. “I’m like the family’s adopted son,” Horan jokes.

Henley did an interview for an Apple documentary on Flicker.

“He hardly ever does interviews. For him to say yes to doing an interview for me was good enough. He could have done the worst interview of all time and I wouldn’t have given a sh--! Don agreed to do that for me.” Both men have discussed writing songs together — Horan is hoping his next visit to Henley in Texas may bear musical fruit.

“Imagine that. There would be nothing better than to be sitting in a room with my guitar in my hand with Don Henley, writing a song together. I’d probably forget how to play guitar. Just to have a jam with him would be enough, but imagine being on a song with Don Henley. That’s the dream.”

Horan says seeing Henley and his email buddy Elton John still passionate about music after decades in the game is inspiring.

“They could easily just concentrate on their own fortune and legacy, but they still have time to help younger acts,” he says. “It’s incredible. What I’ve noticed over the years, and I keep this in my head all the time, is that the bigger the star the nicer they are. From Johnny Depp to Ellen DeGeneres to the Obamas to Don Henley and Elton — they are all so lovely. It’s always the smaller people who are the biggest dickheads.”

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That's great!

New house in West Hollywood:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/don-h...llywood-house/

I assume this is for a family member? Lovely house.

Beautiful house, but rather small compared to his others!

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Originally Posted by priscillaupstate

I assume this is for a family member? Lovely house.

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I had that thought too..maybe for one of his children? I know he lives in Dallas and already has a house in Malibu.

I haven't seen this posted anywhere here yet, but I apologize if I missed it.

I saw on Facebook that Don and Vince are doing a cover of the song Sacrifice for an Elton John tribute album that come out tomorrow. You can hear a short preview of it on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BDPMHFR..._yWKXAbZZ59QXX

As I don't see this elsewhere, there is an article with Don speaking to the Lexington newspaper @kentucky.com. Click on "entertainment" and scroll down to click on story. Sorry, I can't link it.

FreyFollower, I think this is what you may be referring to. It’s been updated in the last few minutes.

A new Don interview a couple of days before the Lexington concert.

He says this about Deacon, something that is important to keep in mind:

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”His first show with us was at Dodger Stadium, so that’s a pretty big leap for a young man. And he did it. He amazed all of us with his composure. But, of course, it’s still an emotional thing for him. Deacon is dealing with it, but he still has moments of emotional upheaval when he remembers his dad. But we all surround him with love and support.”

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Also, he says this:

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”We are all acutely aware of what an extraordinary run we’ve had and how this band has had almost as many lives as a cat. We’re aware of that every day and every night. That gives us an edge, energy and will to continue, because we know how unusual our career has been and we know how fortunate we are.”

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”Don Henley on the Eagles carrying on: “We wanted everybody to be all in.” by Walter Tunis, Kentucky.com, March 5, 2018

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article208003954.html#storylink=cpy

[quote=Delilah;374822]FreyFollower, I think this is what you may be referring to. It’s been updated in the last few minutes.



That's it. Thanks, Delilah! I mean well, but my lack of computer skills is ever evident!

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Originally Posted by Brooke

Beautiful house, but rather small compared to his others!

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Just saw a picture of Sophie in her "new place" in West L.A. and it looked a lot like the front room in the pictures so I wouldn't be surprised if she's living there. One way to ensure you kid lives in a decent neighborhood: buy 'em a house!

There ya go! :lol:

Don probably bought that house months ago and the news media finally picked up on it now.

A women’s advocacy group wants Don’s music removed from Spotify.

“Women’s Group Wants Steven Tyler, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Don Henley, Ted Nugent Banned From Spotify” Ultimate Classic Rock, May 15, 2018

I don't want an activist group or a corporation deciding what I can and can't listen to based on accusations or even convictions. I can make my own choice.

The stories of Don Henley and his treatment of women does influence how I listen to his music, particularly when he's chiding others for their shortcomings, but I've heard of nothing that would make me want to boycott his music.

That is ridiculous. How Don treated women has nothing to do with his music. It doesn't affect how I listen to it, nor should it be removed from Spotify or anything else for what he may have done in his personal life. If these groups don't want to listen to it, that's their choice, but like UTW said, I don't want them deciding what people can and can't listen to.

Then they'd better boycott the NBA -- there's a hotbed of mistreatment of women. Oh, and not go to any mainstream movies anymore. Among other things. These are easy targets. Makes them sound like activists to come against them, but I can think of a bunch of other artists whose work is directly, explicitly demeaning of women, and who have repeatedly been accused of abusive behavior toward women, but it would be detrimental to the group for them to go after these individuals.



But you know what? I don't listen to those artists. Like UTW, I certainly don't always approve of Don's reputation concerning women, but if I want to listen to his music, I should be able to do so. I pay for Spotify every month. I should have the right to listen to what I want on there.

I'm going to move this discussion to "Don in the Press" because it's not directly about "the incident." We can talk more about it there.

So I went and found the open letter from the women's advocacy group:

https://d2486uwqr5x79k.cloudfront.ne...ify_Letter.pdf

Take a look. They don't even give any reasons as to why Don is an "abuser" who should be banned - they just list his name with a bunch of other guys! I guess we're supposed to just take UltraViolet's word for it. Who needs evidence, eh?

I saw this article about 2 weeks ago and I read that stupid letter.

It sucks that they are including Don. He was not charged. I can understand if they found evidence, then they dropped the charges, and Don didn't go to jail and got away with it, but that's not the case. It wasn't his fault that underage girls were at the party. They are acting like they know the whole story of what happened that night and haven't really read what happened. They just want to get rid of his music.

I really want to write them a nasty letter to tell them you have no right to tell me who I should or shouldn't listen to. If I don't want to listen to a certain artist, then that's my choosing not there's. I agree. They have no right to tell us who we should or shouldn't listen to.

I agree, Soda. Who needs evidence. In their eyes, he got away with it (even though they found no evidence of him "abusing" these girls) now we're going to punish him almost 40 years later.

This mess has gotten way out of hand.

I grew up in the 60's and 70's and it seems so ridiculous for this to be happening over 40 years later. Should some of the "normal" behaviors from that period be considered acceptable? Probably not. However, just like most other generations the majority of us in the 60 and 70 age group went on to lead responsible, productive, successful lives after our teens and early 20's. In my opinion the people who wrote this letter figured if they threw in some well know and some controversial musicians from all generations that they would attract more attention. After all, even negative publicity is still publicity.

I stopped listening to Spotify for many years now. I listen to only Pandora and IHeart Radio. Now if they decided to go after Pandora and IHeart Radio(which I think I read they are going after next), I will not be a happy camper.

Luckily it looks like Spotify is ignoring them. I daresay anyone else who gets a letter will, too. This is not getting traction with other women's groups.

I also agree with the larger philosophical objection to the idea that a music distribution service should ban an artist's music because of something the artist has done. As others have said, let everyone decide for themselves if they want to listen to it.

Unfortunately, Spotify has already taken this action against two other artists, so they are obviously OK with that kind of censorship. The issue here, then, is that they refrain from taking such action against Don... and obviously, they have.

Even though this will go nowhere, I'm still disgusted with UltraViolet's irresponsible labeling of Don as an "abuser."

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Originally Posted by sodascouts

Luckily it looks like Spotify is ignoring them. I daresay anyone else who gets a letter will, too. This is not getting traction with other women's groups.

I also agree with the larger philosophical objection to the idea that a music distribution service should ban an artist's music because of something the artist has done. As others have said, let everyone decide for themselves if they want to listen to it.

Unfortunately, Spotify has already taken this action against two other artists, so they are obviously OK with that kind of censorship. The issue here, then, is that they refrain from taking such action against Don... and obviously, they have.

Even though this will go nowhere, I still disgusted with UltraViolet's irresponsible labeling of Don as an "abuser."

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I don't like the word they are using on Don either. Its like Don "abused" these girls even though their weren't any evidence that he did.

I really don't like that Don is included on a list with Chris Brown. Now he's definitely an abuser.

I am also disgusted by them labeling Don as an abuser. This is the unfortunate part of this MeToo movement, that just because of what someone may or may not have done, we are told we can't listen to their music or watch their movies (if it's an actor). It doesn't matter if they did it or not, once they're labeled as an abuser or a rapist, they're shunned by the public. It's like a witch hunt. And why just those artists? With the number of teenage groupies in the 60s and 70s, they could certainly have added to the list...the censorship is just wrong.

I'm sorry to go off on my soapbox, but this is a touchy subject for me right now. As some of you know, I'm a lawyer, and I just went through a hearing representing a college student accused of sexual assault. There is no evidence he did anything wrong and the way he was treated by the university was absolutely appalling. Again, sorry for the soapbox here, reading this about Don came right after I went through this case and I'm still upset.

Ok. I looked up the other artists and what they did since I don't know that much about their past. Ted Nugent and Steven Tyler dated a underaged girl (they knew their age and got a consent from their parents), Chris Brown physical abused, and Nelly was charged with sexual assault. Tekashi 6ix9ine has a sexual assault with a minor charge.

The crime for Don was he had underaged girls at his house and I'm still trying to figure out where's the evidence of Don "abusing" these girls. :headscratch:

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Originally Posted by groupie2686

I am also disgusted by them labeling Don as an abuser. This is the unfortunate part of this MeToo movement, that just because of what someone may or may not have done, we are told we can't listen to their music or watch their movies (if it's an actor). It doesn't matter if they did it or not, once they're labeled as an abuser or a rapist, they're shunned by the public. It's like a witch hunt. And why just those artists? With the number of teenage groupies in the 60s and 70s, they could certainly have added to the list...the censorship is just wrong.

I'm sorry to go off on my soapbox, but this is a touchy subject for me right now. As some of you know, I'm a lawyer, and I just went through a hearing representing a college student accused of sexual assault. There is no evidence he did anything wrong and the way he was treated by the university was absolutely appalling. Again, sorry for the soapbox here, reading this about Don came right after I went through this case and I'm still upset.

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That's ok, groupie. I think we all are a little mad and upset that they are labeling Don an "abuser" just because of a stupid incident that happened 38 years ago (which there's no evidence). I think this is the first group that included Don.

To me. Its different if this was a big secret that nobody knew about and a person comes out and says this 38 years. This is not the case, but I guess it doesn't matter.

Like I said. This has really gotten way out of hand.

For me, there are three issues:
1) they are demanding a ban based on allegations rather than proven guilt.
2) how much should actions in their private lives influence how how we view their art?
3) why should corporations and action groups be taking the decision on my behalf?

As Soda pointed out, the open letter doesn't give specific reasons for including anyone on the list beyond "allegations of abuse". Therefore, we don't know why Don Henley was included. It might be the 1980 incident or it could be something else.

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Originally Posted by UndertheWire

For me, there are three issues:
1) they are demanding a ban based on allegations rather than proven guilt.
2) how much should actions in their private lives influence how how we view their art?
3) why should corporations and action groups be taking the decision on my behalf?

As Soda pointed out, the open letter doesn't give specific reasons for including anyone on the list beyond "allegations of abuse". Therefore, we don't know why Don Henley was included. It might be the 1980 incident or it could be something else.

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I'm thinking it is from the 1980 incident. Majority of everybody on that list either were dating underage girls or have a sexual assault charge on them. But Don doesn't have a sexual assault charge on him and didn't date an underage girls. He's just guilty of having underage girls at the party.

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Originally Posted by shunlvswx

I'm thinking it is from the 1980 incident. Majority of everybody on that list either were dating underage girls or have a sexual assault charge on them. But Don doesn't have a sexual assault charge on him and didn't date an underage girls. He's just guilty of having underage girls at the party.

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Don dated Lorelei Shellist who was only 16 at the time. I think Don was in his late 20s. She talks about it in her book, Runway Runaway. Although to be fair, he is hardly the only famous musician dating teen girls during that time period. I have read about other stuff involving underage girls but I don’t know how much truth there is to them. At any rate, I always thought it was a bad idea for him to have such young looking female backup singers. Esp. with the glazed over expressions they seemed to have in the videos. It’s almost as if he were being defiant about his past or something. None of the other Eagles hired young ladies wearing short dresses to sing back-up. At least now they are older and don’t dress like that anymore.

Back to the call for a ban. Bad behavior has been rampant in the music business, not just by the musicians but by people behind the scenes as well. What if the producer of a famous well-loved album was revealed to be an “abuser” and who decides what an “abuser” is? It’s possible half the artists and music will be removed from Spotify or elsewhere if this call is heeded.

What the activists are saying is that having these artists on Spotify’s official playlists “glorifies” them and therefore silences victims of abuse. I hardly think the appropriate punishment for abusers is removing their music from playlists. The artist who commits a wrongdoing should face consequences but the art itself should be separate, something decided upon on an individual basis.