Sales should be helped by the HotE doc. If it does really well, would that bring about a change of heart about releasing new music by the band, or would Don be more likely to continue with his solo efforts?
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Sales should be helped by the HotE doc. If it does really well, would that bring about a change of heart about releasing new music by the band, or would Don be more likely to continue with his solo efforts?
Yeah,the HoTE doc has gained the band some new fans for sure. Of course, I want Cass County to do well, especially if it's as good as we've been hearing. If Cass County is a success, in terms of sales and chart positions, I hope that it would prove to the band that most of their fans do want to have new music and not just attend concerts containing the old hits. I assume that pretty much everyone on this forum wants to have new music from the guys. I personally, will take whatever the guys will give us. (I'd love a new Eagles album or a new Glenn Frey solo album (just not something like After Hours because that's not my kind of music) ).
I would think that Don would concentrate on Cass County for the rest of the year, and that the rest of the guys would want some down time after 2 years of touring behind HoTE.
If I could write the timeline for the next few years, it would go like this:
2015- Don works on Cass County (touring/promoting). The other guys can do whatever(solo stuff or time with family)
2016- after Don wraps up Cass County, Eagles work on a new album (though not as long as LROOE)
2017- release new album, tour behind it and celebrate the 40th anniversary of Hotel California. (That way if they want to, they can retire on a high note)
2018- solo work
I know that this is probably very wishful thinking, but they say if you dream, dream big!
Another preview of Cass County with a little bit of extra info at Capitol Records last night from our favourite jukebox :grin:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...y-life-being-a
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Originally Posted by Lacken101
While I do love the "jukebox", I'm glad that Don feels this way :).
I may looking into this wrong, but it sounds like he doesn't doing a new album because technically. He's about to put out new music.
In fact it will be more like the deluxe edition of After Hours. The so-called deluxe edition of LROOE had one previously released track on it. The standard version of AH had 10 tracks; the deluxe edition 14. I would doubt the packaging would be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyGone95
This quotation:
You know, Rick Nelson put out a song called 'Garden Party' a long time ago about an experience he had at Madison Square Garden where he was trying to do some new material, and the audience started booing him because all they wanted to hear was what he had done in the past.
Perhaps if the Eagles hadn't treated LROOE the way they have done on the HOTE tour fans may have not as been as hostile to it as he implies. Is he saying the LROOE tour was a failure? I don't know.
Well, I know the review by The Washington Post for the July 2008 LROOE said that the audience sat, bored, waiting for them to get done with the new stuff because it was the hits they wanted to hear. I was there, I heard them sing along to How Long quite loudly, and some sang along to others. Most of the ones around me knew all the words to all the new songs. Anyway, the review was very nearly word-for-word of a review from a midwestern newspaper from the week before. So given that one review seemed to make the rounds around to each newspaper, they all said audiences were bored with the new stuff.
Conversely, it's possible they were. It amazes me how many Eagles fans I met at work, while shopping, at other concerts, etc, that didn't even know they'd released an album, so maybe quite a few didn't realize it until they showed up at the concert. They all knew about Farewell 1 because it was on NBC. I mean, if you hadn't heard about it, learning about it at the concert could be disconcerting and make you feel alienated.
I will timidly raise my hand that I didn't know about LROOE mainly because of health reasons & the fact that The Eagles don't use youtube to promote anything. WITW has becomes one of my favorite all time songs. I don't understand why they didn't include at least 1 song from that cd on HotE tour. They did release the cd & it was successful even if it wasn't widely praised. Granted WITH is 7+ minute song so do How Long! Off of my rant now because it is now less than a month to Atlantic City. My best friend booked our room for a girls weekend.
I noticed the picture from LA that Don used hair color again just when it looked like he was embracing his salt & pepper reality. Just like the perm in the 70's please just make it stop already! Looks like a ton of hair product was used to get the "volume" used for the photo with his guitar.
Looking forward to hopefully having Cass County in my hands very soon.
To be fair to the Eagles, there wasn't much of anything on YouTube back when they toured for LROOE! Of course, they won't use it now, nor will Don, except for official videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by jms18222
Article on press release of Don's new album.
Not sure if this has been posted, but I just saw it
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...y-life-being-a jukebox
Ok I think I see its been posted, Anyway hope u all read it
He's played guitar for don on solotoursQuote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
Va .......he's the one jahh and I ran in to when we were looking for the correct bar you hh and kay were in at the revel after dh solo show that febuary
I have my oicture with him lol
Nice dude
I have enjoyed all the articles and photos .
Very excited
As hh says .......id pay to hear him sing the phone book
I second that emotIon
While I am a die hard eagles fan.....I love the solo works as well since they get to work with such a wide Range of talent.
This can only make people grow.
Just can't wait
I'm still not sure about the impact of the History Of The Eagles documentary. I'd guess that more people own the Eagles records but perhaps more people have sat through the doc than have listened to 3 hours of Eagles music.
I hope Don doesn't judge his new tunes by the reaction they get in concert, as the Eagles seem to have done with their, number one, worldwide hit album Long Road Out Of Eden. No matter how good the new tunes are, they wont get a better cheer than when the audience hears the opening bars of The Boys Of Summer, Hotel California and Desperado
The History Of The Eagles tour kinda confirmed how insignificant their solo careers have become. It's down to Don to help redress the balance. I'm rooting for him,
Maybe the Eagles should do a short "2K Tour" consisting only of songs from this Century (ok, an encore of oldies) as an antidote to the HOTE tour. I hope the guys, both solo and as a band, amount to more than a "jukebox" of classic rock oldies.
I raised an eyebrow when I read that, Don feels he needs "to get a move on". At his current rate, when his follow up to Cass County is ready for release, if CC does indeed come out in 2015, Don will be in his eighties! Beyond that I think we're definitely talking posthumous :eyebrow:
I think that a "2k" tour would be cool. I'd love to hear several songs from LROOE, and some from their solo albums. Unfortunately, the majority of the "fans" would be upset to go to a concert and not hear the "jukebox". I wonder how many tickets they would sell if they do a tour like that and marketed it as a "2k" tour?
The old songs are still going strong, and that won't stop anytime soon. LROOE was a success (7x platinum here in the states iirc), but for some reason, a vast majority of the fans refuse to give the nee music a chance at live shows, and that really sucks.
Now, with Don solo, I'm not sure since it's been 15 years since Inside Job. Hopefully most will like to hear 5 songs from CassCounty in the set.
You're amazing AlreadyGone95!
You've responded to my post before I'd even finished typing it.
I pressed "Submit reply" accidentally, before I'd completed the last bit.
I know a few artists have done a "not the hits" tour. Kylie Minogue, surprisingly for one. They must get something out of it.
Don's Inside Job did indeed come out in 2000.
I'm really rushing to submit this AG95 :razz:
Well, when you accidentally hit the 'submit reply" button, I instantly got an email, which I then read and responded too, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Funk 50
I would think that the guys would get something out of performing the non hits. Are they doing "James Dean" on the HoTE tour? Because if not, that's a "non hit" I'd like to see they do(ok it's popular, but not HC or Lyin Eyes popular). If Don's tired of being a jukebox, he should say something to Glenn if they do tour again!
I have to say this. One of my favorite old groups from the 70s, The Osmonds put out a new studio album for the first time since actually the 80s a few years ago and a lot of us fans wanted to hear new music from them. When they finally put out their new album 3 years ago, the fans loved the album and we actually wanted to hear a lot of the new songs in their show. OF course they are more bigger in Europe than their own country they are from, so us in the US really didn't get a nice tour of that album like Europe did. They can't fill the arenas like they can in Europe. They do casinos, small theaters and of course they're in Branson a lot throughout the year, but the good thing is. They do have 3 or 4 new songs in their set now which us fans love to hear.
For them, they also said the fans didn't want to hear the new music. Which was not true. With a band who hasn't put out new music (not counting cover albums, greatest hits albums or gospel album) since the 80s, we wanted to hear new songs. Sometimes The Osmonds don't even play their hit songs in their set(well not all of them). They have Heartache Tonight also in their set(they made this song a country sing in the 80s and that's why I don't like the song), their country hits and sometimes songs from other people. And the funny thing is. Their excuse of not playing the new music or their hits is because of the audience. They say majority of the audience is older people who remembered them from the Andy Williams show, but they have to remember. The fans who are their age(their ages are 62, 60 and 52) will want to listen to hard rocking songs. I hear it every time I go to their shows in Branson every year. The people from the 60s will be long gone soon and they(who were fans during their stardom in the 70s) will be the blue haired ladies(its a joke among us Osmond fans because the buses that come from everywhere across the US is older people) they will be playing too.
I guess it just depends. To me. If you haven't put out an album for 15 or 20 years, the fans will be so happy to hear them. If Don. NO let me rephrase that. If his record company and PR do a great job promoting Cass Country and not pull a David Geffen, CC will be a great success. The record company has to be behind you 100%. Don has been screwed before(heck twice), he's probably being cautious with Capitol.
If you go into the tour or album release thinking the fans will not want to hear it, then its not going to be successful. Don will have to do the late shows, the talk shows, Today, Good Morning America, heck SNL (he did it for twice for his albums) to make this album work. Do the CMAs in November and the other awards shows(I don't know how long Don will do a tour for CC) to promote CC. The Eagles did it for How Long and Busy Being Fabulous, he can do it for CC. IMO I know it will be successful.
Yeah, the guys' track record for releasing new material since 1990 (past 25 years) is very subpar. 4 songs on HFO,1 on the best of, 2 on F1, then 13 years later after they reformed, LROOE. Maybe we'll get a new album in 2020 :lol:? Solo career-wise it's just as bad: Glenn- 2 albums (one of which he ignores and the other a covers album except for the title track), and 4 new songs on the solo collection. Don- one album, Joe- 2 albums. (I don't know about Timothy sorry). So over the past 25 years, we have a combined 6 albums and 11 singular new songs released. Not very active!
ETA: ok, make that 7 new albums, including Timothy's. (Thanks Shum)
Timothy did put out a new albumafter the guys got back together. It was called Expando(SP?) I forgot what year it came out, but it came out in the 2000s.
Shun, I do believe that you hit the nail on the head here! I truly hope that Capitol supports Don to the best of their abilities. Don said exactly what you said in the doc.Quote:
Originally Posted by shunlvswx
A few days ago, I mentioned promotion of Cass County. I wondered if Don would wait until the mothership landed at the end of July to start focusing solely on Cass County. We've already seen/read a good dozen articles about the preview of the album, so I think that Don will do some promotion. Given how many well known names are on this album, he kinda has to. Heck, some of the people on the album might give Cass County some free promotion. "Hey I sang on Don's Henley's new album. It's great. Check it out"... something like that.
I also seeing Don being nominated for a Grammy, CMA (Vocal Event of The Year) and probably other country music awards next year.
I'm convinced he'll be nominated, too. If so, I hope he performs at the awards shows like the Eagles did for the CMAs in 2007 and 2008... but perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself.
Nahh. Soda. You're not thinking too ahead.
I think he will perform at the CMAs and I definitely seeing him being nominated for the Vocal Event of The Year at the CMAs even the Grammys. With a lot of country stars on his album, he probably will be invited to perform at the CMAs. Being nominated probably won't start until next year. I think there's a certain timeline for songs to be nominated for the CMAs or any awards show.
I just look up the deadline for voting for nomination for the CMAs of each year. They have to put out a single, album etc between July 1st the year before to June 30th the following year. So he's eligible to be nominated for a CMA next year, but could still perform at this year's awards show. But than again. Some country singers will probably not be happy about that. He'll be safe for the Vocal Event of The Year.
He keeps being so vocal about how low the bar is with today's country he won't be asked to perform. I'm not saying I don't agree with him, because I definitely do, but Nashville has proven they'd rather have young money than quality.
I've got a feeling that he'll be honored with a CMA award or another award (possibly grammy?). Maybe best duet. I wonder if there's a category for "best guest performance on a song"?
If Don does perform at the CMA awards I hope it's nothing like the Eagles. I hope he's engaging and entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
I get the impression that a lot of awards shows are somewhat predictable and without even hearing it, Cass County has got, award winner, written all over it.
I wonder if the sycophants on this side of the Atlantic will have some thing to award Don this or next year. He's been around long enough.
I'm not sure how predictions of award nominations can be made before any of us have even heard this album. I mean it may win every award going but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
That's a fair point, FP. It's just that it's pretty typical for someone who's been in the business as long as Don has to at least get a nomination at these country award shows, especially if they are doing a duet with a hot young star. Bob Seger even won an award at the CMTs for his duet with Jason Aldean, and he's nowhere near Don in name recognition.
The Grammys are a tougher nut to crack. We'll see.
Always the cynic, it'd be a little scoop to have Don perform at their awards show. A nominations or two, plus a couple of guest duetist also being present at the Ceremony would pave the way for something special.
You can see the possibilities without hearing a note of Cass County. Prestige and prominence are far more important than merit.
Don might have some competition out there. James Taylor just got to number 1 on Billboard album chart. First time in a long time.
I take this to be a good sign, that people are still interested in the older artists! (Besides hard core fans). :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by ktdids
This article popped up on my news feed.
One thing I didn't like. Did I miss something and the guys broke up? Last time I checked they are still together.
http://www.countrysings.com/a-former...country-album/
So many of them do that, it's irritating.
How long does it take to use Google and find out that the Eagles are still together and are about to finish up a 2 year tour? If you're writing an article, doing 5 minutes of research would help.
This is the information age. Googling doesn't take minutes; it takes seconds. There is no excuse. Grrr!
I've seen articles that refer to him as a former Eagle, then actually mention the current tour by the Eagles, and how he's been busy with it. Maybe they don't know what the word 'former' means? :brickwall:
They did that same thing last year with Joe.
Really? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers
I can't believe that most of these people are journalists. I could do a better job than they do!
Just very excited its coming out soon
Rolling Stone pushed this out with today's date on it, but I don't know why. It doesn't say any more than the last one did.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/fe...oming-20150709