All I can tell you is I checked the copy of Bernie's father's obituary and he had a Catholic burial. So, Bernie would be a Christian if you presume he was raised Catholic and never converted to a non-Christian religion.
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All I can tell you is I checked the copy of Bernie's father's obituary and he had a Catholic burial. So, Bernie would be a Christian if you presume he was raised Catholic and never converted to a non-Christian religion.
Thank you, Dreamer. It looks like the album "Ever Call Ready" consisted mainly of traditional bluegrass and gospel songs. It's not unusual for rootsy bands to have some of those songs in their repertoire, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/ever-c...y-mw0000474316
From the Book Club thread
I've found my copy of the book and this is the closest the author gets:Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
Some more extraccts:Quote:
Among his clients Geffen's closest personal relationships were with Mitchell - with whom he shared a house - and Jackson Browne, His professional match, however, would prove to be the Eagles. Like all great managers, Geffen was as creative in his own sphere as any of his artists were in theirs. The Eagles, conversely, took their business as seriously as they took their music, and they were the only clients whose greed and ambition matched his own.
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"Glenn and I were on the same team," says Henley. "It was he and I against everybody else. We felt like it was our group. Glenn and I both had pretty stong work ethics; we're both pretty anal about rehearsal. We rehearsed a lot."
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The following spring, Asylum spent $125,000 of Atlantic's money to record the groups debut album. The Eagles, at Olympic Studions in London. But Geffen faced an uphill battle with Atlantic which was not enthisiastic about the band.
"At that point, David knew very little about the record business," says Paul Ahern, Asylums first director of promotion. "However, there's one thing you can never argue about: David beat the shit out of Atlantic with the Eagles. David would come out of a meeting with all the staff and say the Eagles were going to be bigger than Crosby, Stills and Nash. He was in there fighting for them. And the Atlantic people would say to me 'What is he, kidding? The Eagles are going to be bigger than Crosby, Stills and Nash?' There was resistance, and he did go the distance."
NB: The cost of the album given above is at least ten times the figure I've seen elsewhere and seems unlikely given it was recorded in 2-3 weeks.Quote:
"It's my assumption that David Geffen called in a lot of favors in seventy-two for 'Doctor My Eyes' and 'Take It Easy,'" says Frey.
Great information - thank you for taking the time to do that, UTW. It sounds like my kinda book! I don't know why I love those nerdy "inside the music business" books. I must be a frustrated mogul.
Fascinating remark by Henley regarding his and Frey's work ethic (implying the other members were less industrious perhaps, or at least had to be led - according to DH anyway).
There's a radio interview with Bernie from 2103 (you'll find a link on one of his threads) in which he pretty much confirms that Glenn and Don lived the band 24/7 which is why they were so productive whereas he took time to go to the beach and be with friends and Randy went home to his family.
I'm a fellow nerd as I like to read the business stuff. You can't understand the decisions if you don't know the environment.
The book describes the coming and goings of Eagles managers and that is interesting reading. It seems like Frey/Henley dropped John Hartmann in it but he doesn't hold a grudge.
Since reading Felder's book, I decided to read this thread to see what books about the Eagles are good reads.(unfortunately, I'm broke until August, so I'll have to wait a few weeks to order anything) I'll probably get the "hooker" book because it's available for a few pennies on Amazon, and I'm extremely interested in the chapter about Glenn, :twisted:.
I'll probably also try to get the Forres and Vaughn books because those seem like the overall best from what I've read in this thread. Plus, I'll enjoy staring at the photos!
ETA: I'll have to come up with an explanation for the hooker to give to my mom. I can only imagine her reaction if I told her what the book is about. :lol:
Let us know what explanation you come up with for the hooker book! I haven't come up with one yet.
I recommend the Marc Eliot book if you want information but maybe the Ben Torres Fong one for pictures. Or "Flying High" if you want someone who gives Glenn his due, even if it's all from secondary sources. Maybe your library has some of the books.
Has anyone read the Eagles FAQ book? (I'm waiting for it to be cheaper)
ETA: After this, I had a look for the hooker book on amazon, and then realised, to my horror, that I was still logged in as my husband in the account that is used by people at work. Luckily, it's possible to edit the browsing history.
You're finished already? What did you think of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyGone95
I had the hooker book on cassette. I don't even remember why I bought it (this was before I became a full-blown Eagles addict). It was kinda depressing.
P.S. I got the "Mansion on the Hill" book from the library and will ferret out all the Eagles references using the index.
I wrote a small opinion about Felder's book in its thread. I didn't want to bring up anything that's already been talked about to death over the past 8 years.
I'll check out my libraries for any of the books when I return Felder's book. That way I can decide if I think that any of the books are worth the price of a decent copy on Amazon. I think that buying the hooker book is better than checking out of a library. It just feels wrong to do that, :lol:. I'm probably not going to say anything about that book to my mom unless she asks. Alot of times, she's the one gets the mail, so that's why I'll have to try to tiptoe around her. Even though I am an adult, this kind of subject is taboo here.
Oops, UTW :hilarious:. I'm glad that I'm the only one with an Amazon account in thus household!
I concur in UTW's recommendation of the Marc Eliot book. The author had Henley's cooperation for a time, if I understand correctly, and obtained some remarkably frank and personal comments.
Also, I appreciated Eliot's detailed account of Randy's pre-Eagles career as a (literally) starving musician.
I want to post something that isn't about the Eagles, although the same book has interviews with Glenn Frey and Don Henley from the late 80s. The book is "On the Record" by Joe Smith - the same Joe Smith who headed Elektra in the late-70s and sent the band a rhyming dictionary. Smith interviewed lots of people he knew in the industry and this interview with Chris Wright who managed several 70s British acts resonated.
Here is Irving Azoff from the same book.Quote:
Ten Years After, which I did deal with, was a nightmare. I had a vested interest in keeping Ten Years After together, and if it were not for my emotional commitment to Ten Years After making it, they would have broken up before they ever made it.
The things they went through, the fights, were outrageous. It was ridiculous. They did a number called "Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl," an old blues number. The keyboard payer dropped out, and the drummer dropped out completely, although he might have done just a little high-hat to keep the rhythm going. But the guitarist, Alvin Lee, and the bass player, Leo Lyons, would stand next to each other and fight, making these noises at each other in front of 20,000 people. It gets worse. They would also throw bottles at each othere. There was many a night I did not think we were going to get through the gig. The minute I stopped managing them, it was over. That quickly. I suppose deep down inside all groups are a little difficult to manage.
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The Eagles were breaking up from the day I met them. The first day I met them, in Kansas City, Missouri, we were driving to Springfield, and Bernie and I were feuding. There was talk of breakup on that tour. At the end of every tour they broke up. So there is no date as to an actual breakup. One day they just kind of drifted into a divorce. I still believe that someday they'll collaborated once again. Many other bands have come back for reunion shot after reunion shot. They take the money and run. Glenn and Don don't do that. That should tell you something about their integrity.
Wow, and he's still their "Satan"? I suppose Irv doesn't love the money....Quote:
Originally Posted by UndertheWire
Incidentally, why did Joe Smith give the band a rhyming dictionary? Was he just being droll or was it a critique of their songwriting? :)
Probably both being droll and criticising the speed of their songwriting. This was during the recording of The Long Run album.
Thanks for posting those quotes, UTW; they give us a different perspective from other stuff you may read on the internet for sure.
Well, my local library does have the Marc Elliot book, but it's checked out. I'll have a hold placed on it, so that I'll be the next person to check the book out.
I haven't had a chance to look for the other books at the library yet.
I hadn't planned on buying the Eagles FAQ book but am now enjoying the Beach Boys FAQ so much that it's got me curious about the Andrew Vaughn tome.
The "Funk #49: Guitar Talk" chapter is that, I hope, info on who plays which solos? That would be very helpful.
After the tumultuous success of Hotel California, which made everybody tonnes of money, the record company were expecting a similar injection of Eagles cash from a follow up album in 1978. When the album didn't materialise and The Long Run sessions dragged on and on, and deadlines came and went, the rhyming dictionary was Joe Smith's little token of encouragement for get the band to finish the next Eagles album and get the cash rolling in again. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
Funk #49 is a pre-Eagles, The James Gang track. I'm surprised it's featured in an Eagles book, although they have been performing it live, since Joe joined the band in the mid 70s.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
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The FAQ book covers a lot more than just the band, so it probably covers at least Joe's part in The James Gang. Nearly all the chapter titles are plays on song or album titles. For example, there's "The Player You Get: Hey Joe Walsh". There are even a couple of borrowed titles like "London Calling" and "The Long and Winding Road".Quote:
Originally Posted by Funk 50
So none of us have read the faq book yet? I can get it for less than $10 on Amazon new(including shipping), so I'll probably bite the bullet a week from Monday and buy it along with the hooker book. (I've told my mom to be prepared for packages coming in sometime around the second week of August).
I just ordered it this afternoon...just had to have it..
Last night, I read the Eagles-related bits in "The Mansion on the Hill: Dylan, Young, Geffen, Springsteen and the Head-on Collision of Rock and Commerce," by Fred Goodman. I have concerns about the author's fact-checking. He tells about the near-bust in the Bahamas airport and claims that "Paul McCartney's recent bust in Japan" for pot possession was on Azoff's mind. If so, then Azoff is a gifted psychic, as McCartney's Japan bust was in 1980. The Eagles' Caribbean adventure was in the 1970s, from the look of the footage in HOTE.
I got the Marc Eliot book checked out from the library today. I'll start reading it asap. I still haven't looked for the other books, nor bought the "hooker" book yet.
ETA: I went ahead and bought "You'll Never Make Love in this Town Again" on Amazon. There's several used copies for only 1 penny, so I couldn't resist the temptation. :hilarious:. My explanation will be plain and simple. "It's a book the contains a bit of info into the personal lives of 2 of the Eagles members, among others". That's a buy-able explanation, right?
I finished To The limit last night.I knew almost everything in the book already, but it was an enjoyable read, despite the factual errors. I'd say it's a good biography of the band, for the most part. I wished that it wasn't so Henley-centered, though. (I know why he's the main focal point).
I recently read Andrew Vaughn's The Eagles FAQ: All That's Left To Know About Rock's Superstars. I held a highlighter in one hand as I eagerly looked forward to marking each passage filled with all the interesting new things I would surely learn from an author making such a claim. I regret that I must report to you that the highlighter was never opened.
I read a lot of incidental information about the business, the era, and the
locale-too much of that, really-but nothing really new about the boys. I guess maybe I've already read too much to be very surprised by this, but it was still a little disappointing. So...Meh. (I really don't like to be so negative, so let me say that if you are a new fan, there is probably something to be gained from reading this book.)
And again, the same problem for us TBS fans-not near as much in the way of interesting info on Timothy as we always get about the rest of the line-up. (In the FAQ book, even his discography is incomplete.) :brickwall:
You're a fast reader. I thought the interviews with Henley were strangely revealing - as if someone had given him sodium pentathol, as others have remarked.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyGone95
Onto the hooker book! I can barely remember it, but I think Glenn came off quite well, considering.
When I become interested in a book, I find them hard to put down.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
Lol, I agree with that comment about the Henley interviews! Knowing Amazon, they'll make me wait 2 weeks for the book to arrive! I don't have the patience for that!
Well, the hooker book arrived today. I only read Glenn's chapter (probably the only chapter I'll read). I think that I'll be in daydream land for a little while. :twisted: :grin: ;)
This could get dangerous :) I was concerned it could be a bad influence on ya! Now you're really frey'd.
:rofl:. The more Frey'd the better. I'm not sayin' anything about the "influence". ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
Well, I will have to say that Glenn's chapter in the hooker book titled "Simply the Best" is quite apropos - definitely takes the mind to incredible places. :thumbsup:
AG, what's the name of the hooker book you're reading?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyGone95
LT - The "the hooker book" is named You'll Never Make Love in This Town.
I wholeheartedly agree, Dreamer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ive always been a dreamer
Oh no, we've corrupted LuvTim now! :) She sounds like she's gonna check it out.
We're all a bit twisted, I think. :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
I skimmed one of the Don Henley chapters of the book. No where near what Glenn's chapter, but it wasn't quite as bad as I had expected. ( I've read the very old Glenn thread called "Simply the best".)
You are so insightful...yup, I'm gonna check it out! (Thanks to you all!) :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by NightMistBlue
Thanks, Dreamer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ive always been a dreamer
OMG, this is not a book written by someone named Hooker. It's a book about real hookers! I can't even...:pimp:
I am so lame. :hilarious:
Of course, now I must have a look.
LT - Not only that, the book was actually authored by the hookers. Each chapter is one of the high-priced hookers telling about their encounters with one of their high-profile clients. I actually didn't give you the correct name of the book - the title is You'll Never Make Love In This Town Again.
Don't feel lame though - you're not the only one here that is curious about the book or, at least, the Don and Glenn chapters. :wink: :grin: