Discussion of Eagles Documentary "History of the Eagles"

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Originally Posted by VAisForEagleLovers

Maybe he meant Eastern timezone? Even after all these years, he's got a midwestern cadence to his speaking. All the interviews he did last year, you can tell he's from the midwest.

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Hmmmm, Glenn has a midwestern cadence? This is all funny to me, being born and raised in Missouri, the heart of the Midwest! I have never considered Michigan as being in the Midwest! Now that I think about it, I guess you would say it is, especially looking at the map. I have a couple girlfriends from childhood that were born and raised in the Battlecreek, Michigan area and I always thought they had what I called a 'northern accent', very nasal sounding. They thought I had a southern drawl. They visited their grandparents in Missouri, who lived across the road from me, every summer. They moved in their twenties. One went to South Carolina and the other to Florida. Within a year the one from SC had taken up the southern drawl and I just was floored at how different she sounded and how quickly she learned the drawl. The one from Florida didn't really sound much different. Somehow she has maintained most of her northern accent. So, Midwest Michigan........:hilarious: To me!

Yep - I would agree that Glenn still has somewhat of a midwestern accent. To me, it is particularly noticable in word that have more than two syllables such as 'tomorrow' in the way he drags them out at the end.

Brooke, I had to laugh at your post. I may have told this story before, but two of my mother's sisters who are native Virginians married and relocated when they married in their early 20's - one to a MA town not too far from Boston, and the other to Nashville. Of course, both aunts adopted the accents of their adopted hometowns. We always tease them and say that when they get together, we can't understand either one of them. But I like it though because it's the only time that the rest of us in the family sound normal. :grin:

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Originally Posted by Houston Debutante

Ugh, not very funny. How pathetic to spend three hours of your time watching something just to hate on it. This person must be really desperate for material.

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would I sit and watch a three hour documentary on a topic I hate to begin with?...I've got better things to do...

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Originally Posted by Brooke

Hmmmm, Glenn has a midwestern cadence? This is all funny to me, being born and raised in Missouri, the heart of the Midwest! I have never considered Michigan as being in the Midwest! Now that I think about it, I guess you would say it is, especially looking at the map. I have a couple girlfriends from childhood that were born and raised in the Battlecreek, Michigan area and I always thought they had what I called a 'northern accent', very nasal sounding. They thought I had a southern drawl. They visited their grandparents in Missouri, who lived across the road from me, every summer. They moved in their twenties. One went to South Carolina and the other to Florida. Within a year the one from SC had taken up the southern drawl and I just was floored at how different she sounded and how quickly she learned the drawl. The one from Florida didn't really sound much different. Somehow she has maintained most of her northern accent. So, Midwest Michigan........:hilarious: To me!

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Hee--See, I envision Missouri to be more of the Southern persuasion than Midwest! I think the accent line starts somewhere in lower Illinois and goes down--I have cousins who live in that area, and to me they have slight Southern twangs...
I think Wisconsin, Michigan (not the UP), Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota (not the "Fargo"-y, far northern counties) all have a similar cadence--words we say a certain way, clipping some off, extending others. Like I've Always Been A Dreamer says, I can hear it in longer words, and words that begin with hard consonants. You'd think it would lessen the longer he's been out of Michigan, but I can really hear it a lot in his "After Hours" interviews from last year.

From Zelabjr:

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would I sit and watch a three hour documentary on a topic I hate to begin with?...I've got better things to do...

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Actually, it's a huge trend in social media/commentary--even been given the label of "hate watching." I admit I did it to the tv-movie "Liz & Dick" (so bad it had to be watch to be believed) and to the show "The Following" on FOX--lord, would the FBI be more inept. This article from the Chicago Tribune gives a good summary (Q&A) style of what it is. And this might answer your question:

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Q: Is hate-watching really necessary? Who goes out of their way to watch what annoys them?

A: Ah, the biggest problem with hate-watching — who has the time? Hate-watching is deeply, understandably suspect. If, after working, paying bills, reading books, seeing movies, eating out, talking to people, answering email, tending to kids, cooking, cleaning, brushing teeth, planning for your future and watching TV without reservation, you still have time to watch TV that makes you mad, you are in love. You watch because you are a human being, and hate-watchable TV shows are troubled family members. An obligation is attached. Tina Fey, on the penultimate episode of “30 Rock,” captured this bind: “DVR at 98 percent. I am just never in the mood to watch ‘Treme.' OK, first things first, I'll watch a bunch of ‘Tremes.'” Similarly, it's easy to hate-watch, say, “Saturday Night Live,” when week after week flaws and aspirations go unresolved. You beat your head against that wall always.

Besides, to quote Russell Crowe in “Gladiator”: “Are you not entertained?”

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Hmm, OK, what can I say is that most of us have better things to do with our time, I hope.

BTW I finally got around to pre-ordering the documentary, just the regular version for me.

I've seen a lot of comments in this thread about how the documentary brushes off the deterioration of Glenn and Don's friendship. I thought it a suitable amount of time considering how much history there is to cover in 3 hours, but I remembered reading this article a very long time ago. I had saved it to an old computer and I was able to get it booted up, and very painfully and slowly copy the article to this computer. Using unique phrases in the article, I was able to search and find an active link for it.

A good number of you have read it before, I know, but I thought I'd reference it here for comparison purposes. It doesn't have a date, but it must be about 1982.

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~markowit.../eaglesbu.html

I have read that article before, VA and it is very interesting reading any of the old articles to me and seeing how their perspectives have changed. I just scrolled through it, and this, in particular, caught my eye as being particularly funny ...

"Henley, though thrilled with his new album, doesn't appear to want to be as active musically as Frey".

Sure didn't pan out that way, did it? In fact, quite the opposite, because it was Glenn who put his music career on the back burner for a while as he got more involved in acting.

Very interesting article. Thanks for posting! I always liked Robert Hilburn's writing and reviews.

Sounds like they were incredibly burned out by the end. I remember when that incident happened at Don's house in 1980, and being pretty disappointed in him when I read about it. I was only a teenager and of course thought he could do no wrong. Sounds like a really rough period for him.

Excellent read. Thanks for taking the time to locate it! Looks like the date on the paper is 5/23/82.

Thanks for finding that date, I'll put in the document I have saved so I know!

This is another good one, an interview with Don and Kootch. I think Troub posted it in the last six months on the board somewhere, but it's another that's interesting to read after watching the documentary. It was especially interesting to read Don's take on Glenn's leadership and the toll it took on him. It also talks a little more about the issues between he and Glenn.

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~markowit.../musician.html

This is Glenn's interview as a follow-up to the one I just posted with Don, and one of the ones I was really searching for. When I read it years and years and years ago, it was the first I realized that a lot of musicians think of bass guitars as part of the percussion and not 'guitarists'.

Anyway, this is one article I recall where Glenn was pretty vocal about the situation between he and Joe and Felder.

I had forgotten the line about Irving not clapping his hands but slapping his wallet, I almost choked on my peanuts while reading this.

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~markowit.../musician.html