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Deacon chooses to chart his own course. Would love to know the whole story.
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Deacon chooses to chart his own course. Would love to know the whole story.
Aaaaaand there it is, folks. No more BS about him being sick and keeping it from the fans. No more wondering about when he's coming back. And for those who were thinking of going to a concert and buying a ticket - you now can make an informed decision and you know not to expect DF to be there if you go and if you are ok with that or not.
I would just *love* to know what exactly went on behind the scenes with Don, Deacon, and Irving at the end of Deacon's tenure with the band. It could have been an easy smooth process with no hard feelings, but that leaves me feeling doubtful after the story about Deacon being sick. Certainly makes you wonder A - how Deacon was treated and B - why he left.
Provided there was no strings attached (drama, bad treatment by Don, bad feelings etc) - I so applaud Deacon for doing this. No one wants to ride the coattails of their father (or mother) or stand in their shadows for their entire life. Deacon is still quite young. This was a formative experience for him but kudos to him for not taking it the easy way and continuing to be in that band getting paid simply because of a given caricature career and actually going out on his own, paying dues, and earning it. And making a name.
I do eagerly anticipate some type of announcement now though by Don saying the Eagles 3.0 has come to a close after their last scheduled date, because that essential Frey family blood in making 3.0 legitimate in his mind, is now no longer involved. Bahahahahaha. And after he does, I got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale real cheap! ;)
Thanks for finding this, FF!
Wow! Even People picked it up!
https://people.com/music/glenn-freys...es-the-eagles/
The Music Observer's take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZUtelY8SMY
Personally I believe that this is a "this day was going to come" thing and there was no drama, but who knows.
I never understood what Vince's purpose was; perhaps they could predict this eventuality. :headscratch: Deacon should have been singing more/all of Glenn's songs.
Someone said that on his last show, Deacon was particularly appreciative of the fans' acceptance of him, and how much he loved playing with the band...she thought maybe he already knew, and was saying goodbye.
Now, what to do? Ah....doesn't Otis graduate this year?
He has his father's blue eyes, and lighter hair.:laugh:
Seriously, I wish nothing but great things for Deacon!
I saw this happening. There's no way a young lad like Deacon would have wanted to stay joined at the hip to his fathers band, lucrative and all as it would be for him. He has to forge his own path. I think he feels he did his duty by Glenn :heart: and the band and perhaps the lockdown gave him a chance to re-evaluate his life choices and touring with the Eagles wasn't for him. I wish him luck in whatever he chooses to do. He needs to blaze his own trail now.
Otis graduated last year.
With only one remaining founding Eagle I wonder what the band will do now? That said, the shows are selling out still, the demand is there, many people love them and will be content to listen to those hits for many a year to come whatever the line-up is. Don Henley and Irving will be happy to capitalise on this as long as they can.
I’m going to make a bold prediction and say that June 26, 2022 will be the final “Eagles” concert. I think there will be solo performances after that but not a return as a group.
Well, I have to say I am not surprised. Almost five years is a long time and I would not be surprised if he simply just got tired of the constant touring. He will be 29 on the 17th of this month. He probably feels he did his duty so to speak and it simply was time to move on. However, as with everything with the Eagles, there is always so much we don't know. Wishing Deacon nothing but the best as he pursues his dreams and career.
Side Note: Otis will be 20 this year. I presume he is attending college. I know he plays piano - has anyone ever heard him sing from any videos he posted ?
it would be ideal for Henley to stop touring now that deacon is no longer with the band after these remaining dates. Perhaps a final "farewell" tour is coming as a goodbye to all the fans where the band will do stops at major cities. I think the band is finally coming to an end :cry: this is the right time to bring back bernie for a final tour (and felder which would never happen)
I wish Deacon well in his next chapter. He seems like a nice young man, and it sounds like he is feeling it’s time to move on and do his own thing. Good for him.
My cousins saw the tour recently, and they said that Don said something along the lines of “if we don’t pass this way again it’s been a hell of a ride”. That and Vince Gill doing Summer shows and talking about looking forward to getting back to his own music makes me think that within the next year they may be wrapping this up. The last ad I saw about the Las Vegas show said final HC shows of 2022, so I agree with edwardd19 that maybe they will do a final set of shows, and finally end the touring.
But who knows!
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glennsallnighter
I would hope that was it. That's technically what I've wanted Deacon to do since Classic West/East. And if Deacon comes out and says it was on good terms, awesome. But then again I don't see Deacon wanting to air out dirty laundry in public, either. I think if Deacon himself came out in the open and talked about it, it would make me feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaim
But I think with removing Glenn's picture, saying Deacon was sick (when I'm betting he wasn't, I know it was just posted to social media but someone saying he was at a golf tournament is believable IMO with what we know now of him leaving), the long drawn out process of announcing it. Something just smells funny to me. I just don't believe he was sick, and then while off decided to quit. I just think it's highly unlikely. And we know how pleasant Don can be to work with. Vince is more of a lap dog in a good way. He's there to further his resume, play the songs he's always wanted to play (his own words), and be a salaried employee in a stable gig. He's not going to stir up trouble or push back much. He knows what his role is. He enjoys being in the band and if Don wants to rule the roost with an iron fist, that's fine. He wasn't a Frey and he certainly wasn't a longstanding real member of the band on any of their successful works. Don would have it easy with Vince and Vince would have it easy with Don. Don is lucky in that regard.
If Deacon was ready to leave the band in good graces, why didn't they just put out this press release back when he was announced to be "sick"? There would have been far less speculation and concert-goers would have had the truth much sooner. Maybe Don was mad that Deacon didn't want to wait until the last scheduled tour date to quit. I'm sure there would have been some guitar rehearsals between Steuart, Joe, and Vince to pick up the Deacon slack so to speak and certainly some extra lyrics for Vince to learn.
I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyFollower
It's really hard to speculate until Deacon himself says something.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYC Fan
My view is that may be he really was sick, and realized that life on the road was not what he wanted. Even though he's young, he may be tired. Or really wants to do want to do things on his own and not constantly be compared to Glenn.
His father's life is not his life. Touring is rough lifestyle and not for everyone.
I suspect that is usually the case, more information about Deacon's departure will eventually come out. I wish him the very best in whatever he decides to do next. He certainly is talented and has plenty of options open to him.
I pray that the band will call it quits after they play the remainder of shows that are currently scheduled. But I'm not going to hold my breathe for sure since I've been saying this since the Classic East and West shows in 2017. I think if they add any more of the current Hotel California shows beyond June, then all bets are off.
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Originally Posted by Ive always been a dreamer
I noticed that the Vegas show is the last of the "Hotel California" specific shows, so none in Europe in June. Since they have hung in for this long, they could have one last blowout here.
Yes, Deacon has many options. I fear the dreaded (in my mind) hip-hop or rap, since he has friends in the community and has produced them. But Deacon sings really well, and is charming and good looking. All would be lost IMO on the sullen and angst ridden rap. There seems to be a recent surge of interest among young people in old-style rock, and I would love for him to bolster the sagging rock genre with his fresh face and talents. Unlikely, but hope springs eternal! I hope he will be happy in whatever he does. I wonder if Taylor will act, write, or teach again, assuming she left the tour as well?
You never know. Timothy has also just released a solo album...Quote:
Originally Posted by NYC Fan
I can't agree more, FF. Rap is such a toxic genre. EDM/electronic a little less so, but still. It would be a shame for Deacon to stop singing and playing guitar in exchange for computerized beats and miming bad lyrics. That said, if he does go into rap/hiphop/EDM I just hope he brings some class to it. I think the younger generation liking older rock is a bit of a nostalgia thing and a certain type of person. I'm certainly that way (although I'm not "young" young anymore, lol). But those people are the younger people finding vinyl records, and embracing a lot of old school entertainment, art, etc. It's not as prevalent as I would like but I'm just so glad there are still those under 40 who like this stuff. Because it's real music. Not robots, not trashy. People in a room making music and inspiring others and bringing the joy of music to others. You don't get that in popular music.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyFollower
It's not just sullen or angstful, that's how I'd describe the Nirvanas of the world. It's sullen, angstful, angry, and often very toxic with lyrics featuring misogyny, violence, and pretty much non-stop profanity or vulgarity. I'm no prude by any stretch and I'm certainly not a clean mouth all of the time, but when every other word you "sing" is profane, it shows a lack of intelligence and the ability to to think of something provocative in thought without resorting to the gutter all the time as your only source of inspiration.
There's a big difference between one line in your rock song saying "I'm gonna find your inner child and kick it's little @ss!" or a song with a double entendre that makes you stop and think vs a "song" with every other phrase containing expletives or outright vulgarity that leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination and provoke 0 thought or meaning.
I'm just glad Deacon is moving onward and forging his own path. I think it will serve him well and I wish him the best of luck in whatever endeavor he chooses.
Yes. I don't understand why in this era of political correctness, me-too, and anti-bullying that rap is still popular. You hear ugly talk about various racial groups, glorification of crime + gang behavior, and especially callous victimization of women. The anger and foul language feel like an assault to the ears. It's not edgy, cool, and real. IMO, it's hateful, degrading and hurtful for the most part. I'm amazed at award shows to see women cheering women presenting themselves as objects, and men calling them "HOs". :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
Rock or Country-rock, Deacon. Please.
I agree. And make no mistake, I'm for me-too and anti-bullying and some degree of political correctness if we are equating PC with not being able to spew vitriol at minority groups or be bigoted. And I think no one should be using the N word. And I can kind of understand the African-American community wanting to reclaim that word as a sign of strength and not letting it bother them anymore, but it makes it hard then to tell other people of any other race you can't use it. It shouldn't be that way but it is. So the way to get them to stop saying it or be able to go after them if they do without hypocrisy, is if everyone stops saying it. And that applies for any racial or homophobic slur. No one of any identity or race should be talking that way anymore. But it has to apply across the border (no pun intended!). You just can't have a peeing section in a public pool, LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyFollower
I love RnB music. Motown, Stax, Muscle Shoals. I love Blues music. It's not a race thing with me. I just don't like rap music or the crowd. And some forget there are rappers of all races. And there are LBGT rappers too. And female rappers, etc. I don't hate the player, I hate the game. I just don't like the genre or the behavior of most that fall into that genre. It seems like being toxic and making vile "music" is a prerequisite for that genre. And I just don't care for it. I also don't care for spoken-word music. I like singing and some melody.
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Originally Posted by WalshFan88
I'm with you on that one! I know I'm old(er) but what I like are singer songwriters and bands & singers using their own voice (NO AUTOTUNE!!!!) I'd rather see one person with their band. No pyrotechnics, no flash. Although I like the Jumbo-Tron for those of us that can only afford the cheap seats. :)
Wouldn't it be great if Deacon formed his own band and played REAL music?
Yes. That would be what I would hope for. Not sure which path he will take, but that's what I'm hoping for!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarthaJo56
The band took some new photos.
https://i.imgur.com/rvqPLbv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gdqoRqW.jpg
Don and Tim look like good ol' country boys. Very HOTE era clothing. Joe looks like a typical rockstar with his faux leather jacket.
But Vince... Jesus, what a tired, out of place looking fellow. In that second photo he looks like a funeral director or a pastor. Drop the black suit, Vince. Wear the stuff Don and Tim are wearing. Wear a shirt and jeans. Something else for the love of god. You don't do rock, so maybe not go with Joe's leather jacket, but there is a reason the Eagles got rid of the funeral suits after LROOE. Granted I won't have to see this atrocity in person as I will never see this fraudulent quartet, but have some respect for those who do. :lol:
I have to say that Don, Timothy and Joe have aged well. They look their age, but in a good way.
I would agree with that. And I think Glenn really looked quite young for his age before his passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaim
Actually I'd argue Joe looks healthier/better *now* than he did in, say, the HFO period. Some of those early HFO shows he still looked pretty rough. Not 80s rough, but still rough. He looks healthier than he did back in the 90s that's for sure.
And I think Don looks far better clean shaven vs the Colonel Sanders look.
Austin thanks for posting the pictures. I saw them this morning and it broke my heart....... I do agree that Don, Joe and Tim have aged well and Don looks so much better without the beard. And, I agree that Joe looked rough in some of those HFO photos. He has looked great for the last 20-22 years. Vince looks his age ( I think he just turned 65). And, Austin, I agree that Glenn looked young for his age until around 2014 or 2015. You could tell then he looked tired and ill. Well, they have made it perfectly clear they are the "new" Eagles.
PS - I always hated the funeral suit look. I was so happy when they ditched them.
Yep, I guess they are the Eagles now. I won't go into that, just wanted to mention their looks as individuals. 😃
Amen, NKIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Kid In Town
I personally don't think he looked ill and tired until 2015. I saw him in 2014 on the HOTE tour and he looked very young and vibrant then. I think 2015 was a different story though. But almost until the end, he always looked great for his age. I think in 2015 he definitely had hit his limit with the RA and was taking so much medication to still tour.
The funeral suits are fine I guess for the right crowd, but the Eagles are a rock and roll band. I realize they aren't Motley Crue or Def Leppard, but they aren't the Oak Ridge Boys or Tony Bennett either. I think their country tinged moments are vastly overshadowed by the harder rocking efforts of the last two 70s albums. In other words, that isn't suit-and-tie music. That's either rockstar garb like Joe is wearing here, or maybe a button down shirt and jeans. There is something stuffy about the suits, but Don used a suit in his solo tours too. I think that's way more Don's than Glenn's thing if I had to wager a bet, that's the way I would have leaned had I had a chance to ask who's idea it was.
As far as the "new" Eagles - they will never be "the Eagles" as a band to me with this lineup with Vince. They weren't with Deacon + Vince, and Deacon leaving only Vince has only made it even less legitimate as if I thought that was even possible. Don, Joe, and Timothy are "Eagles" (individually) as they were in the band in the years with Glenn. And to be fair, so are Randy, Bernie, and even Felder, despite the firing. The Beatles were the Fab Four, this lineup to me shall be called the Faux Four. Sorry, just the way I see it. You do you. :)
I don't consider them the Eagles either, but I just wanted to keep my "aged well" comment separate from that. I deliberately said Don, Timothy and Joe have aged well; not "Eagles" or "they". People already know how I feel about the "band".
Oh I know that chaim. I was referring to NKIT's comment about those guys making it perfectly clear they are the new Eagles.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaim
Well - Since my views align with the 'No Glenn, No Eagles' crowd, I won't even elaborate any further other than to say, they sure didn't waste anytime scheduling a new photoshoot did they??? However, to be fair, I guess they need to make sure ticket buyers know that they won't be seeing Deacon.
Ok, just had to make sure that my opinion hasn't changed, since I did say "I guess they are the Eaglew now". They're not for me, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
Deacon made a brief surprise appearance at the guys' show in Arnhem, Netherlands. Some had heard the rumor that he had gone to Europe to see the Rolling Stones, but they had to cancel due to Covid.
Whatever, Deacon was not angry at the band as some suggested, or he wouldn't have accepted Don's invite to guest so soon.(IMO). Someone said they showed Glenn's photo again. (It was not shown after Deacon left the group.) Oh, yeah. That guy.:eyebrow:
https://bestclassicbands.com/deacon-...yRIoCS6K-R8MB8
It's a good thing if it was an amicable split. Maybe Deacon realized he didn't want to be a caricature anymore and left with the blessing of Don. That certainly paints Don in a somewhat better light and it also means that apparently Deacon is still in Don's good graces despite leaving mid-tour.
However, it is *very* upsetting to me as a Glenn superfan that they are only apparently showing his picture whenever Deacon is onstage. Oh, Deacon's here - better show a picture of his dad (who happened to be the band's founder as he asked Don to start the band with him and not the other way around). How about show Glenn's picture regardless! Every show. As it should be. Grr. Things like this aren't good for my blood pressure.
Well, it is nice to hear Deacon made the surprise appearance with them. Good to know he is apparently in good health. IMHO Deacon made the right decision. It was time for him to strike out on his own. I can't see them touring much longer as Don, Joe & Tim are 73-74 now. And, Austin, I agree, they should be showing Glenn's picture for every show but obviously that will not happen without Deacon playing with them. Oh well, it is what it is......
I never thought they fell out, but yeah, it's hilarious that Glenn's picture comes back when Deacon joins them onstage.
Word is that Deacon showed up at the band's Liverpool show as well. A lot of complaints from fans about the audience---pretty much acting like they were at a carnival from the sound of it.:headscratch: (constantly milling about, getting more drinks, shouting lyrics, talking loudly, etc.) Don probably wished they WERE taking pictures, lol!:laugh: Unusually, they closed with Deacon on Already Gone, (after Hotel California, Rocky Mtn. Way, and Desperado.)
Well isn't that something....Quote:
Originally Posted by FreyFollower
Methinks Deacon and/or Don needs to make their mind up. I mean that's now two shows and no longer a matter of being in the same place at the same time. Maybe the audiences were waning without Deacon or maybe Don was feeling guilty or just maybe Deacon missed the attention/spotlight.
If he continues to follow them around like a lost puppy then I think something is up. I mean if you are going to be there, just sing the songs again and play and be a team player. If you are ready to move on, then by all means do so and leave the guest appearances to be a lot more sparse.
I begrudgingly watched some Already Gone footage where Deacon was "guesting" and made an observation. They really have changed up and IMHO screwed up their guitar roles! Steuart is now trying to wear all the hats. He's now playing parts in songs someone else played last month!
On one guitar you have Vince Gill doing next to nothing, another guitar Joe Walsh is barely playing rhythm and now doing no intro licks or anything, and you have Steuart Smith trying wear all of the hats. He's taken over Joe's intro lick, but that means he only plays the first half of it so he can jump back in with Don Felder's rock lick that followed up Bernie Leadon's original country lick. I personally do that at shows a lot when I'm the only one who knows any of the intro parts and so I combine them like Steuart is doing now but why the sudden change?! Is Joe having issues?
Why would he after so many years quit playing that classic country intro descending da da da lick that he's always played since Bernie left? And if Joe isn't doing it because he can't anymore, why not give it to Vince to play? I mean I think Vince Gill is a sly dog disguised as a humble guy and a lot of people fall for it but the man can play country guitar more than adequately! That would be a cake walk for him to play that intro. Throw him a bone and let him play something. And let Steuart play the rockin' Felder part like he does well. Vince isn't a rocker, but he can play Bernie expertly. It looks like now the way the Already Gone solos are handled prior to Deacon coming back as a guest was that Steuart started playing the Glenn/Deacon solo and Joe started playing Felder's solo. And with Deacon back, Deacon is playing the Glenn solo and Steuart is back to Felder solo.
I know Vince took over the TIE solo from Joe but I think that was more just giving him a role rather than out of necessity/needing to delegate it. I think Deacon leaving has really screwed up the guitar parts. :lol: When Deacon isn't there, it looks like Vince is still playing the same chords in the same spots that didn't exist on the records that he did when he was just trying to fit in with an extra guitar. For instance, no 2nd fret capo on HC like Glenn did live forever, etc. He isn't playing the parts that even Deacon did during the first part of the 3.0 era. It makes no logical sense to me! Maybe Vince doesn't want to relearn. Maybe the return of Deacon was foreshadowed and so Vince was hesitant to put the time in to learn something only to potentially have to revert back to the way he was doing things early on. This is just bizarre to me. I mean people are paying to hear these songs! What happened to the make it just like the record bit? Or the 'we loiter onstage' bit. Or not having poor Steuart play almost everything! Give some more Bernie parts to Vince and have Joe take back the AG intro lick and stuff like that. Or just quit already! Yeah, that. ;)