Discussion of Eagles Documentary "History of the Eagles"

[NYC Fan]

Actually, the cops tried to involve themselves with Glenn and Randy, and Don told them to stay back. Probably because he was all for the 'talk' Glenn was about to have with Randy. What was confusing about the footage was that they made it look like it was the same night as the DC concert since they didn't have concert and backstage footage of the night it actually happened.

Thanks VK and apologies to Springbo for thinking you were confused. My memory is terrible. Guess I need to go back and watch this again! It will be a chore, but I'll suffer through.

[MaryCalifornia]

OK, seems the consensus is I am being too sensitive - no surprise, I'm a Cancer. And, I don't like it if anyone even looks sideways at our sweet boy who sings it high and plays it low! I think maybe Soda is right in that Glenn was implying that Timothy's talent wasn't being maximized or appreciated in Poco - that's a more positive spin.

[VAisForEagleLovers]

Thanks VK and apologies to Springbo for thinking you were confused. My memory is terrible. Guess I need to go back and watch this again! It will be a chore, but I'll suffer through.

We all must do what we all must do! The sacrifices we make for our guys astound me. I probably ought to watch again, just in case!

[GlennLover]

Soda---

I don't know about Randy not being fond of the spotlight. I'm just going by what was stated about him being uncomfortable about hitting the high notes, especially the exceptionally high ones at the end of the song. I guess he could have been uncomfortable in the spotlight but it seems that if that were the case, why bother trying to be a performer in the first place. But then again, Jim Morrison used to sing with his back to the crowd because he didn't like the spotlight, so what do I know?

I have read that Randy didn't like the spotlight at all. I will have to do some research into where I read that though.

[Topkat]

OK, don't get mad at me, I just want to see if anyone else feels the same way...I will start by saying that I found Glenn to be very interesting and entertaining in the documentary. It didn't bother me the first few times I watched it (a couple of months ago), I thought it was funny, but in hindsight and after reading some of the posts in this thread, I am questioning why he felt the need to belittle Timothy when describing his entry into the band. He started out saying that he was the only one to replace Randy, he was a perfect fit, etc...which is gracious and complimentary and what you would expect. But he didn't leave it at that - he had to make fun of Timothy's lack of money and success with Poco. I know that it was hyperbole (we all know Tim wasn't in Poco for 11 years). But I think fans understand the relative stature of Poco compared with the Eagles at the time. What grown man publicly makes fun of how much money another man makes? What Glenn really wants the viewers to take away is that Timothy was a perfect fit for the band, but that the Eagles really did him a favor by asking him to join, because his career with Poco was no good. Maybe I'm too sensitive, but sheesh...I don't know why Glenn felt the need to put Timothy in his place. I did like the part about Irving running into him drunk in the hotel bar, I'm sure it was true

Mary, I totally agree with you on this. I noticed it the first time I watched the movie on Showtime...It bothered me so much!!! Timothy was mentioned so little in the documentary & the one thing Glenn has to say about him was just MEAN, & NASTY & some of it wasn't even true (as in him being in Poco for 11 years) I believe it was 7 years, but aside from that Poco was not such an unsuccessful band. They were much more successful than either Don's Shilo or Glenn's Pennywhistle band....The whole thing really pissed me off. Poco was an awesome band & obviously Glenn knew that or he wouldn't have invited Timothy into the Eagles with no audition, or even to play with them first....

[Topkat]

I actually took that more as a subtle criticism of Poco than of Tim.... Poco wasn't paying Tim what he deserved and in the Eagles, Tim would be treated better.

Interesting how people perceive the same sentence different ways!

I know we have Poco fans on the board.... Do any of you guys know who decided what amount Tim got paid in that band, and why he never got a raise?

First of all, I don't think Glenn had any idea of what Timothy was being paid...I don't think bands going around announcing their salaries. Who said he never got a raise? He wasn't in Poco for 11 years either, so I have no trust that what Glenn said about what Tim was making as true...To me the whole comment he made about Tim was disrespectful & just mean....

He could have said something like, We knew Tim from Poco & thought he would fit in really well with us, not the demeaning comments that he made...
As a fan of Poco & Timothy, I just couldn't even believe what I was hearing out of Glenn's mouth..
But, as usual, all the Glenn fans here don't see anything wrong with it???

[MaryCalifornia]

I have read that Randy didn't like the spotlight at all. I will have to do some research into where I read that though.

I think it might have been in the Ben Fong-Torres book where he said Randy requested that his spotlight be blue instead of white, and that he would actually walk out of the spotlight when it was on him.

[TimothyBFan]

I have read that Randy didn't like the spotlight at all. I will have to do some research into where I read that though.

No need to put yourself out. I wasn't disputing it at all. Like I said, Jim Morrison hated it too. It is funny tho that the guys set out to be performers and dislike it.

First of all, I don't think Glenn had any idea of what Timothy was being paid...I don't think bands going around announcing their salaries.

Hadn't thought of that.

[Houston Debutante]

Mary, I totally agree with you on this. I noticed it the first time I watched the movie on Showtime...It bothered me so much!!! Timothy was mentioned so little in the documentary & the one thing Glenn has to say about him was just MEAN, & NASTY & some of it wasn't even true (as in him being in Poco for 11 years) I believe it was 7 years, but aside from that Poco was not such an unsuccessful band. They were much more successful than either Don's Shilo or Glenn's Pennywhistle band....The whole thing really pissed me off. Poco was an awesome band & obviously Glenn knew that or he wouldn't have invited Timothy into the Eagles with no audition, or even to play with them first....

It never even occurred to me that anyone would get their panties in a wad over such a statement ~ Don and Glenn were poor before hitting it big and it sounded like he was defending Tim to Irving and sympathizing with Tim's situation. It's not like he called Tim a loser or something, he had just finished complimenting him. The implication was that Tim had a right to be frustrated because he deserved more. Let's put it this way: I don't know about you, but I've seen people truly be 'MEAN & NASTY' and it doesn't look like that.

[Brooke]

Well, even though I'm a rabid Glenn fan, I didn't take his comments about Tim being mean or nasty at all. I think he was just trying to tell the story of how it all came about. As someone mentioned, Glenn knew how good he was, that Poco wasn't really happening, and that Tim would be perfect for the band. He didn't even have to audition. To me, that's quite a compliment!

As far as Randy, I thought I remembered reading somewhere too that he really didn't like being in the spotlight. I also remember reading that he was missing his family, and being on the road constantly and never having time to go home could make you quite miserable. I think, maybe, the success just got to him and he couldn't take it anymore. Maybe, subconsciously, trying to get out of singing TITTL was a means to an end. Yes, they could have rewritten it in a lower key to make him more comfortable with singing it, but maybe, they didn't even think about that back in the day. And here is a band that has always been hell bent to make their songs sound as close to the original recordings as possible. This was a number one hit that the fans wanted to hear in all it's glory! We can't change it, the fans won't put up with that! I can understand the possible reasoning. And I think the only reason that Glenn does it now is that it was one of their most successful hits and he thinks the fans want to hear it now, regardless.

Lots of 'maybes' there. Just my thoughts. The thing is, we will probably really never know the truth. We can guess all we want, but what good does that do?