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    Well, I borrowed 50 Shades of Grey from a friend to see what all the fuss was about.

    At first, I thought it was OK. I could kind of relate to Anastasia. I didn't like all the needless vulgarity, but I had been warned about that and tried not to let it distract me.

    Then, I got to the part where he sends her the contract. Genital clamps?? Nipple clamps?? What could possibly be "hot" about hurting someone like that? I can kind of see how bondage could be hot if it was done so that it didn't hurt and both people were into it, but actual pain... that's another matter. In fact, it seems like a man who gets off on abusing the most sensitive parts of women during sex is pretty sick, as is a woman who gets off on being physically tortured by a man (sorry to all any "dom" or "sub" I'm offending). I got repulsed and had to put the book down.

    Besides, I don't need to read it to know what's coming up. Let me guess. Initially resistant, Ana gives in because she loves him and of course he would never TRULY hurt her! Then she discovers she LIKES being "punished" and begs him for more, so it's all good! It will be "sweet torture" right?

    I just can't stand to read a woman telling a man how much she loves it when he hurts her. "Please, Master! Torture me some more! It feels so good! And even if I tell you to stop, just keep going anyway, 'cause I'm sure eventually I'll be loving it!"



    And what kind of example does this set for young girls who are reading it and thinking how hot it would be to let a man hurt them? Guess what girls, the men who are into those kind of things are NOT romantic heroes and when they beat you, it doesn't "feel so good." It's appalling to contemplate how many young girls will accept this treatment when a new boyfriend suggests it thinking they'll eventually like it because Ana did and that the guy is just "misunderstood", and then wind up brutally victimized by a sicko.

    I'm sorry. I know many of you guys like it. It's just... not my thing.

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    oK,

    Did you finish the book?
    Thats not what happens and I gotta tell you that so far I liked the second book much better. I will start the thrid one as soon as I finish reading To the limit for the second time.

    I think It is what is called "a beach read"
    If I wanted to read somehting tht was correct or good literature, I would have c hosen a classic .
    My main reason for reading it was that it was a banned book and I have a problem with that concept. I like to make my own choices and If bought it to read it (which I did) and I didnt like itI didnt have to finish it and trust me I have wasted money on much more than a book.LOL

    That was my reason for reading it.
    I found when I got to the end of the first book I needed to start the second one right away cause it took off where the first left off with their relationship...not months later or years.
    I really liked the second one better and enjoyed the story of them and finding out what made him the way he was, which is what ANa did...she dug deeper to the true person the Chrisitin is.
    'Again...for me it goes to the banned book thing. I never forgot being told when I went to the library to borrow a book and I was told it was banned ..well that really bothered me. I dont need someone else telling me what I can and cant read (the libriarian)

    try the second book Soda....might answer some of those questions you posted.

    tt

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    No, I haven't finished it. I find it offensive as a woman.

    That's not what happens? All I had to do was thumb a few pages later to read this:

    Quote Originally Posted by 50 Shades of Grey
    "No," I protest, trying to kick him off.

    He stops.

    "If you struggle, I'll tie your feet, too. If you make a noise, Anastasia, I will gag you. Keep quiet."
    But, of course, after he has had his way with her.... which includes "punishing" her for disobeying him (she moved during sex after he ordered her to keep still) by refusing to "allow" her to orgasm until she begs for it... which, of course, she does...

    Quote Originally Posted by 50 Shades of Grey
    "That was really nice," I whisper, smiling coyly.


    And I don't care why Christian Grey gets off on hurting women. It's not cool for men to derive sexual pleasure from abusing women, no matter what they've been through. JMHO.

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    No I agree with your opinion but I did finish hte book cause she turned out to be a strong woman who put him in his place.

    JMO I think it is cool when a book...any book gets people talking cause that means they are reading which is something that too few people do today since we all spend so much time on a computer.

    I never go anywhere without my book or nook .

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    I think it is hard to take little snippets from this book and judge...after reading all three...I liked that this broken man (obviously)...was made whole again by the love and strength of this woman...she redeemed him from what was a sick life...that part was beautiful and I think you have to look at all the books as a whole to see the message...JMHO...but everyone sees things differently I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeldabjr View Post
    I think it is hard to take little snippets from this book and judge...after reading all three...I liked that this broken man (obviously)...was made whole again by the love and strength of this woman...she redeemed him from what was a sick life...that part was beautiful and I think you have to look at all the books as a whole to see the message...JMHO...but everyone sees things differently I guess
    zelda..i agree.....snippets of anything isnt a great idea. HAVING NOT READ NUMBER THREE YET (SOON) i AGREE CAUSE i THINK ITS WHERE IT IS GOING.
    JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffanny Twisted View Post
    zelda..i agree.....snippets of anything isnt a great idea. HAVING NOT READ NUMBER THREE YET (SOON) i AGREE CAUSE i THINK ITS WHERE IT IS GOING.
    JMHO
    oops...me and my big mouth...hope I didn't ruin anything for you!

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    Have to put my 2 cents in on this one!!! First, I think I should say, I understand why this series might not be for everyone. If you're squeamish about kinky sex then you will want to step away from it. But the story is so much more than that. And like Zelda & TT say, the 2nd and 3rd books go much more into the whys and has a lot of twist and turns that you really cannot see coming at all just by thumbing through the books. Their relationship is based on love and learning to trust and is a very healthy relationship, in my opinion. And I loved the ending but wished it had gone on and on.

    I absolutely love EVERYTHING about this book, including the kinky sex. Nothing the matter with that! Even learned a few things I didn't know before. As they say, Love Hurts sometimes.
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    Zelda...
    No worries you didnt ruin anything for me. I should have started number three right away but after having seen the boys in Ac I really wanted to reread "to the Limit"

    JAhh read the first one after some hot babe at the shore saw the book on the chair at the pool and told him to read it for "all the woman in his life"
    So...he read number one and then he wanted to read number two and I was in the middle of it and he was driving me nuts with "are you done yet".lol

    TBF--thanks for your two cense. I too have been enjoying Ana and Christian.
    Everytime he talks I hear the voice of a certain actor and I cnat get it out of my head.LOL
    The sex doenst bother me...somethings arent always for everyone...I go deeper and see the story of a broken man who doesnt think he has worth till he mets ANa. With everybook you read you have to take what you want from it and if something bother s you leave the rest.

    I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla and have all different shades of every color of the rainbow...so we have choice.

    I do hate when people take things out of context not just in books..even speaches by politicians...but dotn get me started there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodascouts View Post
    Well, I borrowed 50 Shades of Grey from a friend to see what all the fuss was about.

    At first, I thought it was OK. I could kind of relate to Anastasia. I didn't like all the needless vulgarity, but I had been warned about that and tried not to let it distract me.

    Then, I got to the part where he sends her the contract. Genital clamps?? Nipple clamps?? What could possibly be "hot" about hurting someone like that? I can kind of see how bondage could be hot if it was done so that it didn't hurt and both people were into it, but actual pain... that's another matter. In fact, it seems like a man who gets off on abusing the most sensitive parts of women during sex is pretty sick, as is a woman who gets off on being physically tortured by a man (sorry to all any "dom" or "sub" I'm offending). I got repulsed and had to put the book down.

    Besides, I don't need to read it to know what's coming up. Let me guess. Initially resistant, Ana gives in because she loves him and of course he would never TRULY hurt her! Then she discovers she LIKES being "punished" and begs him for more, so it's all good! It will be "sweet torture" right?

    I just can't stand to read a woman telling a man how much she loves it when he hurts her. "Please, Master! Torture me some more! It feels so good! And even if I tell you to stop, just keep going anyway, 'cause I'm sure eventually I'll be loving it!"



    And what kind of example does this set for young girls who are reading it and thinking how hot it would be to let a man hurt them? Guess what girls, the men who are into those kind of things are NOT romantic heroes and when they beat you, it doesn't "feel so good." It's appalling to contemplate how many young girls will accept this treatment when a new boyfriend suggests it thinking they'll eventually like it because Ana did and that the guy is just "misunderstood", and then wind up brutally victimized by a sicko.

    I'm sorry. I know many of you guys like it. It's just... not my thing.
    Soda, I am totally with you on this one. I read Book1, but I won't be reading the rest of the series. I don't give a crap that Christian has "Issues" & gets off on hurting women during sex....I was turned off by the whole concept.

    And YES, this is a really poor example to set for young woman, who may think it's OK for a guy to smack you around & hurt you....Real life is NOT gonna end like this story does....Woman are abused every single day, & that is NOT OK...

    Most women won't end up like Ana; they will end up black & blue, in the hospital or DEAD.....Sorry. Abuse is just wrong. I'm sure that EVERY ABUSER has "ISSUES" that come from childhood trauma or "Whatever excuse they have?" They all have some excuse... They need therapy & or jail time. Just because Christian is young, rich & handsome....he get's away with it...Would Ana be lovin' this so much if he was a poor, dirtbag? I think not.

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